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  1. BestMte: The Lyncher is a third-party role whose win condition is to get a specific person (the Lynchee) lynched. You have to lynch Prec (reply)
  2. Pigjr1: Nah Big Pauly would basically be a vigilante
  3. Pigjr1: Eating one person each night
  4. To BestMte: That's going to be quite hard, Satan
  5. To BestMte: I'm so lucky
  6. BestMte: This game is Nightless
  7. Pigjr1: Zilch so unfair =/
  8. BestMte: There is no Jester
  9. BestMte: Day 1 can start
  10. aturtledoesbite: huzzah
  11. Indy111: All righty
  12. Pigjr1: So
  13. Precarious: Okay, before we begin, who is playing?
  14. Pigjr1: Any idea why Nightless?
  15. BestMte: sorry I forgot
  16. BestMte: Confirm
  17. Indy111: So what might nightless entail?
  18. Pigjr1: Confirm
  19. Precarious: Do we know anything besides nightless and jesterless?
  20. Indy111: Confirm O-o
  21. Precarious: confirm
  22. aturtledoesbite: hello i am a confirm
  23. Precarious: nightless means no nightkills, obviously
  24. Indy111: Well duh
  25. Precarious: oh, one other question Best--is this game "bastard" in any way?
  26. BestMte: obv no
  27. To BestMte: Lyncher isn't Bastard?
  28. To BestMte: Gotta love Satan
  29. BestMte: lol (reply)
  30. Indy111: We're missing a confirm :3
  31. SilentSand: confirm
  32. Indy111: okay
  33. BestMte: I know but Silent is active doing something else
  34. Indy111: oh anyways
  35. Precarious: Okay, player list?
  36. aturtledoesbite: Silent is secret host pet.
  37. Pigjr1: Pig, Prec, Indy, Turtle, ?
  38. Indy111: Sand
  39. BestMte: Indy, Pig, Prec, Sand, Turtle
  40. Precarious: Just the five of us?
  41. Indy111: So then...
  42. Indy111: 5 players but a closed set up, I don't want to assume anything in set up
  43. Precarious: Let's begin by getting what info we can
  44. Indy111: there are also no reveals which...uh
  45. Precarious: Best: hammers? Plurality? No lynch? Tiebreaks?
  46. aturtledoesbite: I'd say it's likely 4-1. Possibly 3-1-1, but that's not really all that likely, I'd say.
  47. BLOODYRAIN10001: Back. Just checked out the home the Mayans built for me- It got swag.
  48. BestMte: No Hammers, No Lynch is not possible considdering Nightless
  49. BestMte: Tiebreakers will go randomly
  50. Indy111: Hm
  51. Indy111: So Silent, how do you explain your inactivity?
  52. Pigjr1: The fact that it's nightless entails that any power roles with night actions probably wpn
  53. BestMte: x:55
  54. Pigjr1: won't be included
  55. SilentSand: I can't think of anything to say.
  56. SilentSand: No reason to discuss x-x-x format
  57. Pigjr1: If there are any power roles
  58. Precarious: With roles limited by nightlessness, is there any reason NOT to mass claim right now?
  59. SilentSand: Due to the likeliness of oddity.
  60. Indy111: I'm thinking that too, Prec.
  61. Indy111: But once we go there there is no going back
  62. Precarious: Roleclaiming would theoretically expose at least some oddities, while giving us a platform to work from
  63. Precarious: No one can be nightkilled for claiming
  64. Precarious: Without it, we have a typical d1 of chat lynch, which tend to be all but random
  65. SilentSand: They might be DKed.
  66. Precarious: okay, that's reasonable
  67. Indy111: But do you think DK's are private or announced?
  68. SilentSand: No idea.
  69. SilentSand: I'm used to announced, but
  70. Precarious: Best, can you answer that?
  71. SilentSand: Private is possible.
  72. BestMte: Daykills exist and are private
  73. Indy111: oh snap
  74. Indy111: so confirmed DK's
  75. Pigjr1: Oh shnap
  76. SilentSand: Well, that makes it more tricky to claim.
  77. Precarious: That actually provides me meaningful information
  78. aturtledoesbite: ...Yikes. Claiming is probably a bad idea, I'd think.
  79. Precarious: Because it disproves my working theory
  80. Indy111: Simply put, I'm in a box.
  81. Indy111: This is going to be tough.
  82. SilentSand: A box?
  83. Pigjr1: A Candy Box 2
  84. Indy111: An expression
  85. BestMte: if no lynch I'll extend by 5 mins
  86. Pigjr1: An Electric Box 2
  87. Precarious: I'm going to claim, as I think it's in MY best interest
  88. Pigjr1: brb getting my tes
  89. Pigjr1: tea
  90. Indy111: I'm feeling pretty French to be honest lol
  91. Precarious: I'm a survivor
  92. SilentSand: Ok so
  93. Indy111: you're role claiming as a third party? O_o
  94. Precarious: eys
  95. Precarious: *yes
  96. Indy111: hm
  97. Pigjr1: k back
  98. Indy111: survivor just needs to live, right?
  99. Precarious: I wouldn't have if there weren't private daykills
  100. SilentSand: Are there other survivors or third parties?
  101. Precarious: I had also theorized that everyone was a survivor, but that wouldn't fit with DKs existing
  102. SilentSand: Does anybody else wish to claim?
  103. Indy111: debating
  104. Precarious: It's a lot less safe now that we know there are DKs
  105. aturtledoesbite: Hmm...I think I'll believe Prec's claim. Closed setup implies third-party roles could exist, so I can see Best putting it in.
  106. To BestMte: I'm quite tempted to out, Satan
  107. Precarious: Best didn't equivocate, he said there were, and that they are privately sent
  108. BestMte: to out what? (reply)
  109. To BestMte: That I'm a Lyncher
  110. BestMte: your choice, closed setup is hard to tell what to do. I know the roles and I don't know what I would do either LOL (reply)
  111. SilentSand: Hey Prec
  112. Precarious: ?
  113. SilentSand: How would you feel about a 2-2-1 setting?
  114. SilentSand: 2 town, 2 neutral, 1 maf
  115. SilentSand: Do you feel that could be balanced?
  116. RaceBandit: might be a thing
  117. Precarious: That is an interesting idea
  118. Pigjr1: [Race talk in brackets]
  119. aturtledoesbite: Sand, are you suggesting that this game is that?
  120. RaceBandit: [oh right.]
  121. Indy111: Is there a reason you think that, SS?
  122. Indy111: (Other than assumption)
  123. SilentSand: I have survivor as well.
  124. Pigjr1: dat
  125. Indy111: Wha
  126. SilentSand: My current thought
  127. SilentSand: *s
  128. SilentSand: There are other nonclaimed survivors.
  129. Precarious: I originally suspected we could all be survivors, but if that was the case
  130. SilentSand: Prec is a liar who wanted to bait me.
  131. Indy111: wait...I have a theory
  132. Precarious: dks shouldn't exist
  133. BestMte: there are at least three town players
  134. Indy111: O_o
  135. SilentSand: wat
  136. Indy111: 5 of us playing, right?
  137. aturtledoesbite: ...Wow, that's helpful.
  138. Indy111: well then...
  139. Indy111: SS or Prec is scum is what we can assume, right?
  140. SilentSand: If that's a good assumption.
  141. SilentSand: I want you three to roleclaim.
  142. SilentSand: If it's not, don't.
  143. aturtledoesbite: Yeah. There basically has to be a mafia somewhere, or else the game would be over already.
  144. Indy111: I didn't get anything cool, I am a VT.
  145. aturtledoesbite: Same, Indy. Vanilla here.
  146. SilentSand: Okay, I was orginally VT.
  147. Indy111: well then, pig?
  148. SilentSand: Best switched me.
  149. aturtledoesbite: *Vanilla town, because someone's going to try to say "vanilla mafia?"
  150. BestMte: still here? (reply)
  151. Pigjr1: I am a third party
  152. BestMte: kk (reply)
  153. Pigjr1: Survivor
  154. Precarious: Three third parties?
  155. BestMte: LOL (reply)
  156. Indy111: SS that is so elaborate I am amazed
  157. Indy111: was this before the game, SS?
  158. SilentSand: It was before the day started.
  159. aturtledoesbite: Okay, guys. I'm going to point up to where Best said that there are at least three town.
  160. Precarious: One thing is clear: we know someone is lying
  161. To BestMte: Well, I'm not EXACTLY lying
  162. Indy111: wait what
  163. To BestMte: Just leaving out important info
  164. Precarious: As far as I can tell, we've had three survivor claims, and two VT claims
  165. aturtledoesbite: So one, maybe two of you guys are lying.
  166. Indy111: but why would someone lie and say survivor if they're town?
  167. SilentSand: I think best has me included in that town list.
  168. Precarious: I didn't see the three town thing, but that contradicts it
  169. Indy111: Best?
  170. DragonArcherZ: (mafia or not?)
  171. Precarious: Moreover, neither Survivor nor VT is a killing role
  172. Indy111: (Yes)
  173. Pigjr1: (Yes, Mafia)
  174. Precarious: Best made it clear that kills exist
  175. DragonArcherZ: (Someone PM me details)
  176. Pigjr1: Maybe someone is lying to hide their cover
  177. SilentSand: I don't think best made it too clear.
  178. Indy111: SS thinks Best is saying 3 town because SS was originally until it started
  179. Pigjr1: But I don't know why they would want to do that
  180. Indy111: Best, to ask again, it is 3 town or do you take that back?
  181. Indy111: This is crazy
  182. BestMte: I confirm what I said
  183. Indy111: okay
  184. DragonArcherZ: (GL; also sorry about the leave before, my stomach had a weird temporary ache or whatever so I took a brief respite)
  185. Precarious: Let's just reiterate, we have 3 Survivor and two VT claims correct?
  186. Indy111: so then
  187. Indy111: Yes
  188. Pigjr1: Yup
  189. Pigjr1: And Best claims 3 town
  190. aturtledoesbite: That's accurate, Prec.
  191. Precarious: In that case, my vote is for sale. I am willing to work with either side here.
  192. Indy111: okay okay
  193. Indy111: h
  194. Indy111: hm
  195. Indy111: What if
  196. Precarious: And if not for the possibility that VTs are lying, I'd just offer to help the mafia now
  197. Indy111: there is no scum but instead a SK
  198. Precarious: This is how I see it
  199. Pigjr1: SK?
  200. Indy111: serial killer
  201. Pigjr1: That would basically be survivor
  202. Pigjr1: Because nightless
  203. Indy111: yes
  204. Indy111: but someone is saying survivor but is really SK
  205. Precarious: hold on a second, I want to check my role pm for something
  206. Indy111: (I'm saying they have a day kill)
  207. SilentSand: Well, I'm still confused as to how the 3 town thing has played out.
  208. aturtledoesbite: But an SK existing would keep the game playing without a mafia.
  209. DragonArcherZ: (Who's the host?)
  210. Indy111: hm...
  211. Pigjr1: Satan is
  212. aturtledoesbite: Best is the host.
  213. Indy111: Quite peculiar
  214. Indy111: damn
  215. aturtledoesbite: Who are our survivor claims, again?
  216. Indy111: I am really trying to read into this
  217. Pigjr1: =/ is there a deadline?
  218. SilentSand: Prec, me pig
  219. Indy111: Prec first, then SS, then Pig
  220. Indy111: the order is important
  221. Indy111: I feel like someone else claiming survivor after prec would mean they actually are (not pigs, but SS's)
  222. Pigjr1: Oh wait probs not
  223. Pigjr1: Because nightless
  224. Indy111: prec and pig I'm not sure about...
  225. SilentSand: Best claiming 3 town roles means two different liars.
  226. aturtledoesbite: I think I'd believe Prec's claim over any of the others.
  227. Pigjr1: I'd believe pigs claim the most
  228. Precarious: okay, situation just became more complicated. Best informed me that survivor and SK have essentially incompatible win conditions
  229. Indy111: damn
  230. Indy111: oh, Prec?
  231. Indy111: Was this start of game?
  232. Pigjr1: Best basically confirmed existence of SK?
  233. Precarious: maybe
  234. Precarious: I asked him if, IF there was a serial killer, we'd both win if only we were left
  235. Indy111: hm
  236. BestMte: No serial killers exist
  237. Precarious: he said that SK's objective is to be alone, without confirming SK existence
  238. Indy111: lol
  239. Precarious: wait, you're saying that explicitly
  240. Precarious: ?
  241. Pigjr1: lol
  242. Indy111: Maybe Best is playing with our heads?
  243. Pigjr1: Maybe
  244. Precarious: Hold on, this is important.
  245. Pigjr1: This is Satan we're dealing with
  246. aturtledoesbite: Best does seem oddly helpful for a host...
  247. SilentSand: I'm still questioning that announcement of 3 town roles.
  248. BestMte: and guys we're way over deadline but this is really interesting so I'll give you all the time that you want
  249. SilentSand: lol
  250. Precarious: Well, first, are you going to confirm the three town thing and the no serial killer thing?
  251. BestMte: Yes, I'm confirming it!
  252. Pigjr1: inb4 secret bastard mafia
  253. SilentSand: Alright so.
  254. SilentSand: My current theory.
  255. SilentSand: Prec is town.
  256. Precarious: okay, in that case, I have a proposal for Sand and Pig
  257. Precarious: one of you is mafia
  258. SilentSand: Prec claimed survivor to bait me.
  259. Precarious: the issue is what the other is
  260. Pigjr1: I am 101% sure I am not mafia.
  261. Pigjr1: I swear in the name of bacon.
  262. SilentSand: Are you sticking to town claim, prec?
  263. SilentSand: er
  264. SilentSand: survivor
  265. Precarious: I never claimed town
  266. Precarious: I'm a survivor
  267. Precarious: Now, this is probably going to make Indy and turtle mad, but hey
  268. aturtledoesbite: ?
  269. Indy111: inb4
  270. Pigjr1: ?
  271. Precarious: If one of you is survivor and one is mafia, we should kill the town together. That way, mafia isn't going to dk us, and the three of us can win
  272. Indy111: Oh snap
  273. SilentSand: Isn't SK incompatible?
  274. Indy111: No SK
  275. Pigjr1: There is no SK
  276. Indy111: BUT!
  277. Precarious: We were told there is no SK
  278. SilentSand: oh
  279. Indy111: You've forced my hand Prec
  280. Indy111: I'm not VT
  281. Indy111: (I know, another twist)
  282. Pigjr1: You're really an Indie?
  283. Indy111: I was given the role of "Unlyncher"
  284. Indy111: or something like that
  285. SilentSand: You're indiana jones?
  286. Indy111: I confirmed with best this is third party
  287. Pigjr1: wuts an unlyncher
  288. Precarious: Okay, what is Unlyncher? Cancels a lynch, I guess?
  289. Indy111: no
  290. BestMte: There is no unlyncher role
  291. Pigjr1: lol
  292. Precarious: wtf
  293. aturtledoesbite: ...what
  294. Indy111: well then...
  295. Pigjr1: dat bestmte doe
  296. SilentSand: why would you tell us
  297. Indy111: lol
  298. Indy111: Oh well
  299. Indy111: then...
  300. DragonArcherZ: (Aww yeah clan stream twitch.tv/wyzdm)
  301. aturtledoesbite: So...Indy?
  302. Indy111: as for my second card
  303. SilentSand: So, prec
  304. Indy111: I'm actually a survivor
  305. aturtledoesbite: That's a pretty big point against you.
  306. Pigjr1: epic plot twist
  307. SilentSand: Do you find indy or turtle more likely to be doctor?
  308. Indy111: I just was going to make up something so I wasn't going to get lynched
  309. Precarious: Basically, my implicit offer still stands. I'm willing to vote with anyone, so long as it is to my best interest
  310. Pigjr1: so turtle is the only VT?
  311. SilentSand: Indy
  312. SilentSand: If that's true
  313. Pigjr1: unless turtle is willing to claim otherwise...
  314. Indy111: yes?
  315. SilentSand: Why would you not claim that first?
  316. Indy111: I imagined VT would help me live better
  317. SilentSand: If you did, kill turtle, done.
  318. SilentSand: No no
  319. SilentSand: Before the unlyncher.
  320. SilentSand: Even after claiming VT, unlyncher is a strange claim.
  321. BestMte: Turtle has been silenced
  322. Precarious: what
  323. SilentSand: Working theory, you are a desperate town.
  324. Pigjr1: Am I high?
  325. Indy111: I'm confused though, I'm survivor that means three of you (two of the claims) have to have been town
  326. Pigjr1: I must've breathed in some toxic chemicals
  327. Indy111: It is SS
  328. Indy111: I'm a desperate survivor
  329. Indy111: Basically
  330. Indy111: I just don't want to die.
  331. SilentSand: Yeah, uh
  332. Indy111: Best ruined my plan...*cough* but
  333. Indy111: It is what it is
  334. SilentSand: Current idea is to lynch turtle, kill you.
  335. Indy111: lol
  336. Precarious: ^
  337. Pigjr1: lol
  338. BestMte: There are no survivors
  339. Pigjr1: lolwut
  340. Indy111: uhhh
  341. SilentSand: Wait wut
  342. Indy111: okay then
  343. Indy111: So this makes more sense
  344. Precarious: okay, that basically wipes out everything Best has said
  345. Indy111: Everyone (except turtle maybe) is lying
  346. Precarious: that puts the SK theory back on the table
  347. Pigjr1: Maybe Satan is the liar
  348. Indy111: but he said no SK
  349. BestMte: Satan is not in the game
  350. Precarious: yeah but he lied about no survivors
  351. Indy111: no SK no survivor and 3 town?
  352. Precarious: My claim does not change
  353. Indy111: hm...
  354. Pigjr1: My claim stays stiff
  355. SilentSand: Neither does mine.
  356. Indy111: Okay
  357. BestMte: I don't like to be the host and be the player, just to make it clear Pig
  358. SilentSand: Current idea is to lynch turtle, kill indy.
  359. Indy111: [Vote: turtle]
  360. Indy111: meh
  361. Indy111: This game is crazy over the place, my silver tongue won't get me out of this one.
  362. BestMte: deadline to xx:20 won't be extended
  363. Pigjr1: silver tongue?
  364. Indy111: I think everyone is survivor except one scum, personally.
  365. Precarious: wrong
  366. Pigjr1: that must be tough during airport security
  367. BestMte: if there is no vote, I'll RNG
  368. Indy111: How come, Prec?
  369. BestMte: atm turtle is getting lynched
  370. Precarious: because survivor condition is explicitly a win with only mafia remaining
  371. Precarious: which means you're not a survivor
  372. Precarious: liar
  373. Indy111: yes but best has been saying interesting stuff
  374. Indy111: Perhaps an SK then
  375. Precarious: that was in the PM, not what he said publicly
  376. Precarious: SK is possible, I'll grant you that
  377. Indy111: hm...
  378. Indy111: I think it is all survivor but one mafia still
  379. Precarious: but you didn't know about mafia, because that's what you said
  380. Precarious: your survivor claim is bogus
  381. Indy111: You can win by lynching, which, because of nightless, I think I can believe.
  382. BestMte: 7 minutes to go, turtle is slowly falling
  383. Indy111: Well, let's just vote and see how things go, Prec
  384. Precarious: basically, turtle is virtually certain to be town
  385. Pigjr1: This is crazy
  386. Indy111: [unvote: turtle]
  387. BestMte: so here is my number
  388. SilentSand: I'll say turtle is def town too.
  389. Precarious: Indy is almost certainly not a survivor. That means he is either town, mafia, or other 3p (such as SK)
  390. Indy111: Best, just to make things clear, hammer is not available but you can self vote, right?
  391. Precarious: SK is more of a risk to both mafia and survivors than town, so I think we should lynch Indy before turtle
  392. BestMte: can't
  393. Indy111: I can't say I disagree with that logic, Prec
  394. Precarious: can't what?
  395. BestMte: can't selfvote
  396. Pigjr1: can't self vote
  397. Indy111: oh
  398. Indy111: okay
  399. Precarious: [vote Indy111]
  400. Indy111: :3
  401. BestMte: 1 vote Indy, 5 minutes to go
  402. Pigjr1: if everything best says is a lie
  403. Pigjr1: maybe this is bastard
  404. Pigjr1: or perhaps there is a jester
  405. SilentSand: Right now, I'm gonna let Prec be the only voter.
  406. Precarious: maybe it is, but we have to trust our own role pms at least
  407. Pigjr1: argh this is so confusing
  408. Indy111: Oh, I definitely think this is a bastard, pig :3
  409. Indy111: just vote and get it over with
  410. BLOODYRAIN10001: [but we have to trust our own role pms at least: Suuuuurreeeee.]
  411. BestMte: 4 minutes Indy is going down
  412. Pigjr1: inb4 role pms are a lie
  413. BestMte: (you missed such a great game Bloody)
  414. Precarious: you're not the host Bloody. If Best lied in role pms, I may not be playing games he hosts again
  415. Precarious: That is the most basic assumption to mafia, even in bastard
  416. Indy111: SS, pig
  417. BestMte: (I would never lie PMs roles)
  418. BLOODYRAIN10001: [Well there are secret parts to roles commonly.]
  419. SilentSand: Admittedly not dethy.
  420. Indy111: turtle prob can't vote because of silence
  421. Indy111: but if you vote now it will end
  422. Indy111: to make sure
  423. BLOODYRAIN10001: [Such as sanity, secret modifiers, quite common in bastard. Bya]
  424. Precarious: yes, but that's understood--as modifiers. There's a difference between a naive cop and not being told what you are, period'
  425. BestMte: ì
  426. SilentSand: Fair enough.
  427. BestMte: ^
  428. BestMte: I agree with Prec, everyone has to know his goal and role
  429. Indy111: 3 minutes
  430. Precarious: I'm trying to figure out why I'm the only person voting
  431. SilentSand: So pig.
  432. BestMte: 2 minutes
  433. Pigjr1: What?
  434. SilentSand: You sticking to survivor claim?
  435. Pigjr1: Yep
  436. Indy111: Well, it'd follow up with what you thought, Prec
  437. Indy111: It could be I'm scum
  438. SilentSand: If you are, claim.
  439. BestMte: we have a problem
  440. Indy111: I'm not scum
  441. Indy111: I am survivor
  442. BestMte: turtle disappeared
  443. Precarious: If there are two survivors, we constitute a majority vote with anyone else
  444. Pigjr1: dat
  445. SilentSand: modkill turtle
  446. Pigjr1: the turtle has left the building
  447. BestMte: extending 3 minutes
  448. Pigjr1: get DAZ or BLOOD or someone to replace
  449. BestMte: to find a replacement
  450. Indy111: modkilling turtle would end the game :3
  451. Pigjr1: why?
  452. Pigjr1: oh rite
  453. Indy111: Why do you think? Just what I'm getting from what best said.
  454. BestMte: Bloody join?
  455. Precarious: I know at least one of Sand and Pig is lying (unless this is a 5 survivor game)
  456. Precarious: but I don't care, so long as neither of you is a serial killer
  457. Pigjr1: I am not a serial killer
  458. Indy111: 1 minute left
  459. SilentSand: I'm of the belief that it is 4 survivor.
  460. SilentSand: One serial.
  461. Precarious: that's reasonable
  462. Indy111: may as well vote me in case scum bandwagons on someone else
  463. Pigjr1: Votecount?
  464. Indy111: day ends :D
  465. Precarious: then both Indy and turtle lied initially
  466. Indy111: err wait no
  467. BestMte: Indy 1, it ends in 3. I extended it because of turtle
  468. Indy111: extension
  469. Pigjr1: inb4 indie jester
  470. Pigjr1: indy*
  471. SilentSand: wait
  472. Indy111: lol no
  473. SilentSand: wasn't the first thing said
  474. SilentSand: no jesters
  475. Pigjr1: You seem quite happy to be lynched
  476. Indy111: Best said no jesters
  477. Precarious: IF that is the real set-up, we obviously follow the original plan and lynch the two of them
  478. Pigjr1: Best keeps lying
  479. Indy111: I'm not happy to be lynched, I'm just saying
  480. SilentSand: Best is a scheming liar.
  481. Pigjr1: Never trust the Satan
  482. Indy111: Besides, jester wouldn't act happy about being lynched (if it was a good one)
  483. SilentSand: Funny fact, best lies are what threw indy under the bus.
  484. BestMte: Guys, when you'll see the setup, you'll be happy with the game and not angry with the host
  485. Precarious: honestly, when his unlyncher claim collapsed, that did not help his credibility
  486. Indy111: yeah
  487. Pigjr1: what the heck is an unlyncher anyway
  488. Indy111: unlyncher wants someone to not be lynched
  489. BestMte: 1 minute
  490. Indy111: they win so long as that player is not lynched
  491. Precarious: okay, let me try one thing before the day ends
  492. SilentSand: another ****ing dk
  493. Indy111: a DK?
  494. Precarious: we're all survivors, I claim a group win for everyone
  495. BestMte: if you unvote, turtle will be modkilled
  496. SilentSand: if it is i swear to god
  497. SilentSand: don't unvote
  498. Indy111: wait yeah
  499. Indy111: we can't all be survivors
  500. BestMte: day is over
  501. BestMte: Indy is dead
  502. Indy111: Hehe
  503. BestMte: Role will be disclosed later. Game goes on.
  504. Pigjr1: Day 2?
  505. SilentSand: Indy jester
  506. BestMte: 4 players. One disconnected.
  507. SilentSand: calling this shit.
  508. BestMte: Day 2
  509. SilentSand: [vote: turtle]
  510. Pigjr1: I already called it
  511. SilentSand: The plan goes on.
  512. Precarious: [vote turtle]
  513. Pigjr1: [Vote: Turtle]
  514. BestMte: do you want me to end the day now?
  515. Pigjr1: Sure
  516. Precarious: ^
  517. SilentSand: Sure
  518. BestMte: it's a pity turtle left anyway
  519. BestMte: let me check if it's over or not
  520. SilentSand: lol
  521. Precarious: lol
  522. Pigjr1: lol
  523. BestMte: Day 3 can start
  524. BestMte: 3 left
  525. Pigjr1: Huh
  526. DragonArcherZ: what's happening?
  527. SilentSand: uh ok
  528. Precarious: the game isn't over?
  529. Indy111: (:P)
  530. Pigjr1: One of us must be lying
  531. SilentSand: or
  532. Precarious: obviously, but that was always the case
  533. SilentSand: 5p survivor was true.
  534. Precarious: the thing is, whoever is lying apparently isn't mafia
  535. BestMte: I wanted a replacement for turtle
  536. BestMte: but you know the roles, you can't join Da>
  537. SilentSand: Possible that the last two members are the living ones.
  538. Precarious: what do you mean?
  539. Pigjr1: Hm?
  540. SilentSand: Well, I got "survive" as my win.
  541. SilentSand: Not just "survive with maf"
  542. SilentSand: Just "survive"
  543. SilentSand: Last 2 would be surviving, yes?
  544. Precarious: my win condition was to survive with either town or mafia
  545. BestMte: If there are only survivors, survivors win
  546. Pigjr1: I also have to survive to win.
  547. SilentSand: Best
  548. BestMte: not lying this time
  549. SilentSand: Oh ok.
  550. Precarious: that means one of us isn't telling the truth
  551. SilentSand: Prec
  552. SilentSand: You changed what you said
  553. Precarious: ?
  554. SilentSand: You said specifically mafia only earlier.
  555. Precarious: no, I didn't
  556. Pigjr1: I think you did
  557. Pigjr1: Lemme go check
  558. Precarious: go back up and find what I said, I'll wait
  559. SilentSand: because survivor condition is explicitly a win with only mafia remaining
  560. SilentSand: Your words.
  561. Precarious: that's out of context
  562. Precarious: It was in the context of the serial killer discussion
  563. Precarious: I could win with an anti-town alignment that was mafia, but not with serial killer.
  564. Precarious: Give me a second, I'm going to go find that whole section
  565. SilentSand: Yes, and you were saying that pig wasn't survivor, because he didn't know if there was scum or not.
  566. Precarious: Best, can we quote from our role pms
  567. Precarious: also, that was to indy iirc
  568. BestMte: I would prefer not
  569. Pigjr1: Precarious: because survivor condition is explicitly a win with only mafia remainingPrecarious: which means you're not a survivor
  570. Precarious: ah, okay
  571. Precarious: I was speaking to Indy
  572. Precarious: he showed he wasn't a survivor because he didn't know about mafia
  573. SilentSand: Pig, does your pm say anything about town or maifa?
  574. SilentSand: *mafia
  575. Precarious: Okay, I'll paraphrase my role pm, and it should align with one of yours, how's that?
  576. Pigjr1: No, Sand
  577. SilentSand: Prec, what if it aligns with both of ours?
  578. SilentSand: Because we're both survivors, and you're not?
  579. SilentSand: How do you expect us to respond if that was the case?
  580. Precarious: I was told that survivor is a sole player, who wins when any other alignment achieves their win condition
  581. SilentSand: I have no mentions of alignment in mine.
  582. Pigjr1: Me neither
  583. SilentSand: Well
  584. Pigjr1: Other than that I'm third party
  585. SilentSand: Pig could easily be lying just too appease me.
  586. Precarious: the word was faction, whatever
  587. Precarious: I was trying to paraphrase
  588. Pigjr1: I'm not lying at all
  589. SilentSand: Pig, please paraphrase yours.
  590. Indy111: (Mettttta)
  591. Precarious: and for that matter, paraphrase yours, Sand
  592. Pigjr1: I am third party and I have to survive to the end.
  593. SilentSand: I've done so a few times
  594. SilentSand: I just have to survive.
  595. Precarious: One of you is being dangerously reticent
  596. Pigjr1: Reticent?
  597. Precarious: Mine had a lot more detail than just, "survive"
  598. BestMte: guys guys... No talking about Pms plsplsplsplspls
  599. SilentSand: Alright, sure.
  600. Pigjr1: Fine, Satan
  601. BestMte: not the way this goes, I might have send different Pms or god knows what
  602. SilentSand: Alright.
  603. SilentSand: If that is true, simply different pms
  604. BestMte: 6 minutes to go
  605. Precarious: Okay, if Best needs to send different pms, that suggests that there are redundant roles
  606. Precarious: Two of us probably are survivors
  607. BestMte: I said I MIGHT!
  608. BestMte: I don't even remember
  609. Indy111: (lol)
  610. Pigjr1: lol
  611. SilentSand: I find Pig's late claim and constant attempts to appease us strange.
  612. BestMte: don't make me direct you the wrong way
  613. SilentSand: Pig has yet to attack
  614. Pigjr1: Hm?
  615. SilentSand: While clearly, I'm over aggressive.
  616. Pigjr1: I'm not really much of an attacker.
  617. Indy111: (brb)
  618. SilentSand: Prec is simply making sense of how different our strategies are.
  619. BestMte: brb need to give a ban
  620. Precarious: Basically, one of you is probably a serial killer.
  621. SilentSand: Or not.
  622. Precarious: And based on an assumption, [vote Pig]
  623. SilentSand: There haven't been any kills.
  624. Precarious: That's precisely why I'm voting Pig
  625. Pigjr1: wut prec
  626. Precarious: Of the three of us, only he wouldn't have appreciated the significance of that
  627. Pigjr1: OMGUS [Vote: Prec]
  628. BestMte: One vote each 3 minutes to go
  629. BestMte: Silent your call now
  630. Precarious: If I was a serial killer, and there were day kills, one of you would already be dead
  631. SilentSand: Ugh.
  632. SilentSand: It's been my call too many times at 3 people left.
  633. Pigjr1: I am not a serial killer either
  634. BestMte: I'm pretty sure that at least one will win in the end
  635. Precarious: Pretty sure?
  636. BestMte: lol jk
  637. BestMte: sure
  638. Precarious: wtf did you do?
  639. BestMte: I made a setup with an assured winner no worries
  640. SilentSand: [Vote: Pig]
  641. Pigjr1: Hm?
  642. BestMte: 2 minutes
  643. SilentSand: No end yet.
  644. BestMte: thinking again or over?
  645. Pigjr1: Why are you voting me?
  646. SilentSand: Prec's first claim still makes me believe him.
  647. SilentSand: It was either to bait other survivors,
  648. Precarious: you came late, although I'm not sure what's going on now
  649. SilentSand: Or just a roleclaim.
  650. Precarious: because after that discussion, an sk with a kill would have acted
  651. Precarious: yet no one is dead
  652. BestMte: 1 minute
  653. Pigjr1: An SK with a kill probably would have won by the time this day started
  654. BestMte: Pig is dying
  655. SilentSand: Or SK only act when with the last member.
  656. SilentSand: In which case Prec is the SK.
  657. DragonArcherZ: (What's going on?)
  658. SilentSand: Which is my MAIN concern.
  659. DragonArcherZ: (How many games have gone?)
  660. BestMte: You should have roleclaimed at this point Pig, Silent might have helped you
  661. BestMte: anyway it's over
  662. DragonArcherZ: (Sorry I've been busy watching this stream)
  663. DragonArcherZ: Okay
  664. DragonArcherZ: Was that the only mafia gone?
  665. Pigjr1: Yup
  666. BestMte: Prec and Silent, the two survivors win
  667. Precarious: ha!
  668. Pigjr1: I was the lyncher
  669. Pigjr1: I had to lynch Prec
  670. Precarious: Good work Sand :)
  671. BestMte: The Lyncher Pig failed
  672. SilentSand: lol
  673. Indy111: (Back) (This is the second one since you came back)
  674. SilentSand: Would I have won either way?
  675. BestMte: The Mime Indy failed
  676. BestMte: Yes Silent
  677. Pigjr1: Mime?
  678. BestMte: He had to kill all the ones in his party
  679. Pigjr1: Silencer?
  680. BestMte: everyone in this one
  681. Indy111: I had to kill everyone to win :3
  682. BestMte: there was no silencer
  683. Pigjr1: Why was turtle silenced?
  684. Indy111: So Best, care to explain to us turtle's role as reporter? :3
  685. BestMte: Turtle was a reporter
  686. Pigjr1: Hm?
  687. BestMte: he had to kill the power roles (Indy and Pig)
  688. BestMte: and could talk for me in public
  689. BestMte: that's why all that interfering
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