Duck of Wessex Strikes Again, Part 2

King Manus Dei of Hyperion - Today at 7:57 AM
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Knighting you was on the books and was supposed to happen any day at that time.
But after the gathering degenerated into a big denouncement, with many participating not even knowing what was going to happen, the moment for awards had kind of passed.
I received a lot of private messages saying, "we thought Lewis was going to be knighted and that's why we were there. We had no idea they were going to say that stuff about Azzerhoden and we want you to know we don't agree."
NeoMetric - Today at 7:59 AM
Regardless that's all past. A huge resentment other people had and projected it onto me was that my knighting was long over due, my work credit given to azz with kaylem going "Happened to me before it's nothing new. Welcome to how I feel"
Ah, thats another thing Azz liked to do to me
was constantly remind me im only an esquire and that im not really constable but acting constable
King Manus Dei of Hyperion - Today at 8:00 AM
Ah - and that's what I mean about the emotionality re: Kaylem.
But anyway, I never really knew the extent of the dynamic between you and Azzerhoden.  I am sorry for that.
NeoMetric - Today at 8:00 AM
And then azz would go "well if I gave an order i'd happen" to counter my statements to my garrison. Then the final nail in the coffin was approve a seperate force who wanted to PVP but didnt like me and didnt want to join the garrison, permission to form their own military unit
I left shortly after that and they became apart of the garrison
King Manus Dei of Hyperion - Today at 8:01 AM
Oh, that could have stood to be clarified. That was just Sir Kentalis going with his own clan which technically was at that time only sheltering in Wessex.
NeoMetric - Today at 8:01 AM
No that was after that
Because they all applied on the forums and I didn't accept them because I wanted to test their mettle and train them
King Manus Dei of Hyperion - Today at 8:02 AM
But that is who went and did the PVPing.
Right, they didn't want to wait. It wasn't that they didn't like you.
NeoMetric - Today at 8:02 AM
Kentalis didn't, it was his group Green w.e and the other guy (like 4 total) and I asked who gave them permission to go?
No one did, they lost horribly and lost equipment etc. Asked to be regeared
King Manus Dei of Hyperion - Today at 8:02 AM
Ah, okay, not Kentalis in person but his guys.
NeoMetric - Today at 8:02 AM
Then complained they werent accepted into the garrison yet
But wanted to PVP, i told them they didn't earn it yet to practice with me more and then they did their own thing
IT was after kentalis was already in wessex itself
King Manus Dei of Hyperion - Today at 8:03 AM
Well, they didn't ask to be regeared - they were allowed to go only on the stipulation that they risk their own equipment.
NeoMetric - Today at 8:04 AM
I remember this vividly because it was a direct work around to me and grim came to me freaking out
and thats how i found out
Grim was the guy incharge of all the garrison stuff
Quartermaster
King Manus Dei of Hyperion - Today at 8:04 AM
It really wasn't a workaround to you, or Grim.
Just that I couldn't very well tell these guys who were technically in another clan that they could not go fight our enemies - any more than I could tell Hospitallers not to fight.
And when it was made clear that the garrison had specific rules, and since they'd applied to the garrison, it would invalidate their "separate guild" status,
they withdrew their apps.
Some things weren't personal - just a matter of impatience with your work schedule to be able to meet and verify them.
I would say that Grim and others were way too quick to jump to conclusions and be triggered.
NeoMetric - Today at 8:06 AM
So far thats what I can agree with you on
They let things get hyped up in private comms and left in a whirlwind of emotion
Which I never wanted to happen
King Manus Dei of Hyperion - Today at 8:07 AM
No doubt!
NeoMetric - Today at 8:09 AM
Well to sum all of this up, i'll have to get the guys together with you and talk all this out. What I can say is if your goal is to make amends and not prove a point they wont care to see
Humble is the way to go
If this somehow does work where you restore your image in their eyes i'd only come back as my own thing
Regardless of numbers etc
King Manus Dei of Hyperion - Today at 8:11 AM
Your own entity? You mean Ironmoor?
NeoMetric - Today at 8:11 AM
Correct, I stand true with what I said. I took me about 6 days of mulling it over to actually shed my Wessex identity after spending years representing it (Sometimes and mostly alone in my endeavours)
Once i shed my wessex identity the only one i'll go by from here on out is my own
King Manus Dei of Hyperion - Today at 8:12 AM
Well, there are 24 counties to occupy in CoE, and Ironmoor has plenty of right to be one, if that interests you.
NeoMetric - Today at 8:12 AM
My current offer on the table is to be a Baron with the FEudal Union on CoE
King Manus Dei of Hyperion - Today at 8:12 AM
What server?
NeoMetric - Today at 8:13 AM
But there's something they're doing in the background i don't particularly like
And i don't know what server
So far im pretty uneducated about CoE
King Manus Dei of Hyperion - Today at 8:13 AM
If I am duke, I can easily help you get cassus belli to challenge the NPC count of whatever county your barony is in so that you can become a count.
NeoMetric - Today at 8:15 AM
The issue is Hyperion has a morale issue with a lot of members not looking to stay
FU on CoE has its current player base in LiF MMO
PLus others
Im not writing Hyperion off for CoE however it'd be against my best interest to decide so soon with the current facts
King Manus Dei of Hyperion - Today at 8:16 AM
Can you give me a little more clue about that and how I can address it?
NeoMetric - Today at 8:16 AM
Again it has to do with the image Hyperion currently has
True or not losing is your image
King Manus Dei of Hyperion - Today at 8:16 AM
What's the image?
NeoMetric - Today at 8:16 AM
Losing, join hyperion to lose
But
I feel like the true facts of this low moral
morale*
King Manus Dei of Hyperion - Today at 8:17 AM
That's ironic considering we just had half of Arkhaya join us.
NeoMetric - Today at 8:17 AM
COmes from comms and inter-guild relations
Yea thats why i dont buy into what i see propaganda wise
I buy into what I hear directly from hyperion people
Soi what i was saying is what I feel are the true facts of the low morale or buy ins for CoE etc
Are the comms for combat and inter-guild relations
In Wessex i'd hold drill and do those formations ontop of provide insight to furthering people. There was no stagnation
King Manus Dei of Hyperion - Today at 8:18 AM
That interclan rapport in Hyperion is low?
NeoMetric - Today at 8:18 AM
yes, this is me just trying to read in from what little bit i was given (mostly people just casually saying they dont want to stay)
I can't go too deeply obviously as im an outside looking in
King Manus Dei of Hyperion - Today at 8:19 AM
How highly ranked of people said this?
NeoMetric - Today at 8:20 AM
I wont give the highest, but there are a couple gentry. Again its not my intention to sel people out. And quite a few people (My old contacts etc) still view me as keeping their best interests at heart
and I do
There's a reason I never joined the war between FU and Hyperion
If I truly didnt care you'd have seen me on the battlefield already
Probably for worse
King Manus Dei of Hyperion - Today at 8:21 AM
What do you recommend I do to assuage such people and possibly retain them?
NeoMetric - Today at 8:21 AM
I've been saying it repeatedly
King Manus Dei of Hyperion - Today at 8:21 AM
"Just be more transparent" is hard to wrap my head around.
NeoMetric - Today at 8:21 AM
Don't do sidechats make yourself visible and keep your plans transparent
King Manus Dei of Hyperion - Today at 8:21 AM
And make combat comms better.
NeoMetric - Today at 8:22 AM
Let people know how you feel, what you think
Dont just do that announcement
You're the common denominator for all the shires
Do what I was trying to do
and be that person directly linking groups, i did it for military and was working my way towards a unified military
King Manus Dei of Hyperion - Today at 8:22 AM
Yes, you're right. I understand about that. I haven't had the time.
I am the common denominator and am pretty much the sole mascot for "Hyperion spirit".
NeoMetric - Today at 8:23 AM
Now, spin that and work with it
You have kentalis working your angles but if you can't back it up casually
Then the lack of effort is apparant
And that can magnify issues (As we discussed) that'll blow up randomly
King Manus Dei of Hyperion - Today at 8:24 AM
I see what you're getting at now, and you're absolutely right.
Issues are magnified when people don't have that security or that familiarity.
NeoMetric - Today at 8:24 AM
Yes, and thats the dreaded mob mentality
King Manus Dei of Hyperion - Today at 8:25 AM
Exactly, exactly.
NeoMetric - Today at 8:25 AM
Having a middle management person deal with issues is like giving advil to someone with a migrane. It'll lessen the pain but if all you do is take advil eventually that wont work
You're the recognized sole head of Hyperion, the person above their respective guild leaders
King Manus Dei of Hyperion - Today at 8:26 AM
Oh, no doubt about that. The middle management is just not supposed to make things worse.
NeoMetric - Today at 8:26 AM
Well in vanzans defense he did try to die it down but then the convo's he was having with youwas starting to offend him in turn
Then I'd come home from work to shitstorms of messages and was just trying to dilute it while trying not to get offended myself
And we went to our immediate first responder which was kaylem
who said go to az
azz ignored/played alot of it off
then we went to you, who was not filed in at all
and that magnified it
"how could he not know when azz said he'd take it up to manus? How can manus not know whats going on with his own guild?"
etc etc
King Manus Dei of Hyperion - Today at 8:28 AM
Yes, it seemed by the time it got to me it was just irrational stuff that I couldn't really do anything about. "Azz bad, Altus bad, Kentalis bad."
NeoMetric - Today at 8:28 AM
Kentalis was only a trigger
because he was knighted before me
King Manus Dei of Hyperion - Today at 8:28 AM
I tried to appoint Sir Kaylem, but to my disappointment he refused the position so as not to betray Azz.
NeoMetric - Today at 8:28 AM
literally what people were upset about
"If they wont knight Lewis but will knight a random who promised fake numbers, whats the point?"
was a quote from a few of the people that left
King Manus Dei of Hyperion - Today at 8:29 AM
Right. But he wasn't knighted, only recognized as "already a knight" as was always traditional with subclans. I needed someone who would have told those upset that.
And I am aware that that is exactly what they were complaining about, but they didn't know the history or the context.
NeoMetric - Today at 8:30 AM
My rebuttle to that was I feel like I was the only wessex member of them all. I did feel it as a slight though because to get a new knight, already recognized or not, still stings to someone whose been waiting for almost a year
And that reminded me of a quote you said
"You need to have people who follow you" something along those lines which also triggered people because ironically (you didnt know at the time) how long i was leading and recruiting for wessex directly
King Manus Dei of Hyperion - Today at 8:31 AM
I need to have people who follow me, I said?
NeoMetric - Today at 8:32 AM
When it was argued that Kentalis brought in fake numbers but yousaid you saw them, but others didnt. And then you said "In order to come in as a shire or be recognized as a knight you need to have people who follow you"
Something along those lines
And people immediately interpreted it as thats a reason why I havnet been knighted yet
It was a huge can of worms in the background
King Manus Dei of Hyperion - Today at 8:33 AM
Specifically you need to have numbers.
NeoMetric - Today at 8:33 AM
Yea and i brought like 15 people from LiF:YO to the MMO in wessex's name and thats what got people muttering and upset in the background
King Manus Dei of Hyperion - Today at 8:34 AM
Your knighthood was to happen any day at that time.
It kept getting put off because of the constant upheaval.
NeoMetric - Today at 8:34 AM
Im not arguing that right, im mentioning what can go on in the background
and how things can get magnified
this is all tying together with the current issues happening with Hyperion
King Manus Dei of Hyperion - Today at 8:34 AM
I didn't want your knighthood to look like appeasement . I wanted it to stand on its own as a deserved merit.
NeoMetric - Today at 8:34 AM
Using facts of the past to better relate to the now
King Manus Dei of Hyperion - Today at 8:35 AM
Yeah, one can see the grapevine of people overreacting and dramatizing.
And since I couldn't talk to everyone at once, I kept thinking, "why isn't Vanzan disarming this stuff instead of fomenting it?"
And it's partially because he agreed, he told me. But that seemed to me to be putting himself solely in their perspective, which is a necessary trait, and not in the position of a bridge between the two.
At any rate, I won't press that point should I have the chance to speak with any one of them ever again.
NeoMetric - Today at 8:39 AM
Well in the best interest of trying to make amends, you'll probably get a lot of quoting and petty remarks etc, humble and interest in moving forward might put a good dent in the image they currently have of you