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  1. Anonymous 05/18/13(Sat)17:09 No.9131049
  2. Replies: >>9131076 >>9131126 >>9131146 >>9131148 >>9131164
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  4. Okay let me try and summarize what we have so far.
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  6. Yui gets shot, she survives because of her SUPER CARBON WATCH but decides to fake her death (so she can investigate who tried to kill her in secret?)
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  8. Yuuya is told she is dead and this is kind of a bummer to him, but he decides to honor her memory by using his test pilot expertise to make the Shiranui the MOST POWERFUL MECHA EVER. (because they jobbed to the Terminator which was inferior to the Berkut? And if they can't make something better than that the Japan will make a deal with the Russia... what deal exactly? To be a Russian vassal instead of American vassal? To accept Sufoni and Mikoyan Gurevich assistance in building robots?)
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  10. Around this time he spends more time with Cryska. (Do they develop a proper relationship here or are they just working up towards it?) And Cryska's esper power inexplicably weakens? (Why?)
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  12. Yui comes back after a while. (at which point? How long is she off-screen for? How much of timeskips are there?) But Yuuya is like "oh you're alive? that's cool I guess" and gives more thought to how he's going to make THE MOST POWERFUL SHIRANUI EVER that can fight berkuts and raptors.
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  14. Around this time is when Yui has a talk with Heinemann about his history with her father and Yuuya's mom, and this is where Heinemann brings up the fact that they're half-siblings? (Why didn't he bring it up before, because nobody asked?) Is this the right point in time where it occurs?
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  16. Anyyway when Yuuya presents his plan for the POWERFUL SHIRANUI Heinemann says "Ha ha we can do better than you by using this ten year old American design that is not my intellectual property but I designed it" and whips out a stealthy Shiranui Widow design, Shiranui Second Phase 3 that they weren't originally going to build where the Americans could see them from across the base but they REALLY need to fight those Russkies. is that right?
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  23. OP 05/18/13(Sat)17:16 No.9131076
  24. Replies: >>9131135 >>9132084
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  29. The watch is a special thing made only for the people who designed the type 74 longsword.
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  31. >deal with russia
  32. To use Russian TSFs instead of American ones (Shiranui Second included, XFJ will be scrapped).
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  34. >Do they develop a proper relationship here or are they just working up towards it?
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  36. What do you mean by "proper relationship"?
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  38. >power inexplicably weakens? (Why?)
  39. Never really said.
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  41. >Yui comes back after a while. (at which point? How long is she off-screen for
  42. IIRC about 20 days.
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  44. DIA guy says it was the Russians who shot her and that they agreed to unmark her as a target for assassination with the competition between the Shiranui and Belkut (because they were sure that they'd win anyway to them this was basically "Japan will use Russian TSFs from now on")
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  46. >(Why didn't he bring it up before, because nobody asked?)
  47. >Is this the right point in time where it occurs?
  48. Never said, yes.
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  50. >Shiranui Second Phase 3 ... is that right?
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  52. Yes.
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  54. Also when the national security people question him his excuse is that it just LOOKS like a Black Widow but isn't and you're stupid faggots for assuming that they're the same thing just because they look similar, it doesn't have active stealth or the refueling system.
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  56. It actually has the active stealth and refueling system.
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  62. Anonymous 05/18/13(Sat)17:25 No.9131126
  63. Replies: >>9131146 >>9131148 >>9131151 >>9131220 >>9131542
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  66. And then after they build it obviously people notice, and the Central Intelligence Agency doesn't take kindly to Heinemann handing state secrets to the Japanese, and chuck the entire XFJ team in gaol pending investigation for espionage, while Cryska gets so weak at esping that the the Russians decide to just kill her off (because she's a waste of space?) And Yuuya is let out of the lockup allegedly because he's loyal American F-22 test pilot and is cleared for that info anyway or something? (this is obviously a cover by the DIA people later, right)
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  68. But Yuuya gets wind of it from Inia, plus the Defense Intelligence Agency (because Central Intelligence wasn't enough) come to him and say "We let you out because we want you to do something for us", he will take the Shiranui Second Phase Three, break into the Soviet base and kidnap the Scarlet Twins and facilitate their defection to Freedomland, in exchange they can get the XFJ people out of incarceration and Yuuya can come home to Eagletopia and get his shiny promotion. But if he is compromised by Russians or by UN the DIA will say "what are you on about" and leave him to the wolves. This was done so they could get their hands on some espers but also because the Infinites need a diversion so they can do super sekrit stuff (what exactly?)
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  70. Yuuya gets Cryska but there are some problems getting Inia because Sandek drives the Su-37 and kicks his ass. But Yuuya kicks his ass back or something? And Sandek says "well have fun with Cryska's last few days of life because she didn't get her immersion tank treatments". Russians chase them, then Argos chases them, then Argos fights the Russians that chased them (is this all still on base or are they camping in the woods or something?), but they fight a crazy killer Inia in a berkut with an esper pod. But they switch on the Prafka and the esper in the pod becomes Cryska with her memories, who stops Inia. They extract Inia and Cryska kill the pod esper with an apology..
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  78. OP 05/18/13(Sat)17:33 No.9131151
  79. Replies: >>9131220 >>9131574
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  81. >>9131126
  82. >the Russians decide to just kill her off
  83. They want to see how long she can survive without her meds and what happens precisely.
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  85. >And Yuuya is let out of the lockup allegedly because he's loyal American F-22 test pilot and is cleared for that info anyway or something? (this is obviously a cover by the DIA people later, right)
  86. The brigadier general who was a friend of his grandfather's pulls some strings, but the DIA MIGHT have been involved.
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  88. > But if he is compromised by Russians or by UN the DIA will say "what are you on about" and leave him to the wolves.
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  90. They didn't say that, they just told him to avoid combat as much as possible.
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  92. >This was done so they could get their hands on some espers
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  94. Assumed. What he's told is that they want to turn Yuuya into a hero who rescued these poor girls from the evil communists who were experimenting on human beings.
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  96. > because the Infinites need a diversion so they can do super sekrit stuff (what exactly?)
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  98. No. The Infinities' secret mission for the CIA was blowing up a Soviet G bomb research facility, but that was during the terrorist attack.
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  100. >Yuuya gets Cryska but there are some problems getting Inia because Sandek drives the Su-37 and kicks his ass.
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  102. No, Yuuya defeats Sandark, but that's the problem, now that he's actually fought the Soviets they have to really chase him (originally they'd just sort of half-assedly chase him for being a deserter)
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  104. >is this all still on base or are they camping in the woods or something?)
  105. Alaska
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  107. >But they switch on the Prafka
  108. No, Kriska just removes the psychic limiter and calls out to Inia. Prafka system isn't something they can just switch on at will, it's built into the machine.
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  110. >and the esper in the pod becomes Cryska with her memories,
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  112. She has some of her memories and feelings but doesn't "become" her
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  119. Anonymous 05/18/13(Sat)17:47 No.9131220
  120. Replies: >>9131255 >>9131293
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  125. Thanks for clearing those up.
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  128. And then Yui shows up to have a sword duel with Yuuya as the snow falls around them, she's using the other Shiranui Second Phase 3 because her Takemikaduti is still broke from the terrorist attack. They decided to sword on sword instead of gun on sword stealthing all the way because samurai or something? They fight each other to a standstill and Yui lets Yuuya go while talking about this is how the men of the Takamura family are like, huh, making his choice to be with the woman he loves. Be happy, Cryska.
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  130. Then Cryska dies in Yuuya's arms of newtype cancer a few days later telling Yuuya. Elements involved are
  131. -her love for him could just be because of Inia's influence
  132. -because Inia is a psycho who thinks Yuuya's shitty childhood is a real turn-on
  133. -but Yuuya says that doesn't matter what matters is she loves him, he loves her too
  134. -she tells Inia her will or something?
  135. -does not regret loving Yuuya
  136. -she wants the three of them to be able to live normally together in the next life
  137. in some order
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  139. About this time Yuuya decides not to take Inia and hand her to the DIA like the deal was because she'd be experimented on (like that wasn't an obvious probable outcome before) and hightails it to Kamchatka where with Inia he buries Cryska and marks her grave with a rock, meeting up with Latrova who survived along with half of Zhar after they were killed by a pod esper or something that wasn't the Scarlet Twins. She's currently underground in the care of some bald russian officer dude, he joins them because now the Russians, Americans and Japanese are all after him because he fucked them all over.
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  146. OP 05/18/13(Sat)17:54 No.9131255
  147. Replies: >>9131293 >>9131431
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  150. > They decided to sword on sword instead of gun on sword stealthing all the way
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  152. No stealth (plus unit 2 doesn't have stealth anyway).
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  154. The fight is basically they charge at each other and fade to black and the fight is over with Yuuya flying away and Yui just standing there. There's a sword in the ground and Yui's Shiranui still has both swords so presumably she knocked his sword away.
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  156. >About this time Yuuya decides not to take Inia and
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  158. His motive is pretty much 100% he wants to bury Kriska in her homeland.
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  160. >meeting up with Latrova who survived along with half of Zhar after they were killed by a pod esper or something that wasn't the Scarlet Twins
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  162. Never specified but I assumed that most of Zhar survived. Yuuya assumes that it was Martika who attacked them.
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  165. With ghosts.
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  167. That being said when the MP Idals were out of control they were just flying around above it and it was lasering and tentacling them non stop but couldn't hit them at all.
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  174. Anonymous 05/18/13(Sat)18:04 No.9131293
  175. Replies: >>9131303 >>9131304 >>9131338 >>9131399 >>9132492
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  178. Okay, thanks. So what those evil intelligence agencies might do to Inia has nothing to do with it, just bury Cryska in the motherland. Did Cryska say she wanted to be buried in her home soil? Was the idea that the Americans might like to dissect her corpse considered?
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  181. Then we get a timeskip to Operation Ouka. I suppose Yuuya was just counting trees or something during this time. How many months is that?
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  183. Yuuya and Latrova with Bald Dude and Zhar were supposed to be heading to Japan for reasons unknown but just for the hell of it Yuuya and Latrova (did Zhar come?) decided to link up with the Soviet force in charge of the diversionary attack on Evensk Hive, the Shiranui Sangata (?) is repaired with Berkut parts and is now a two-seater with Inia.
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  185. The squadron of esper pod-controlled Berkuts led by a two-seater with a dude and a pod goes out of control because of Inia being around while the prafka is on, the dude gets chucked to the BETA to get eaten (because espers hate the world?) and just sorta chill around the battlefield not getting hit because prafka is Zero System. (Did they actually do any fighting before they lose control? How does that go?)
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  187. And then a nine laser fort BETA appears that doesn't give a shit about friendly fire and starts vaporizing everything, requiring a bunch of S-11 sacrifices and orbit divers before the Russians can get anywhere near it, which is jamming communications so they can't tell UN high command about the slight snafu and which apparently can overload G-bomb Rutherford fields with pure firepower causing the bombs to go off prematurely (how do they know that? did they try it? do they have an expert in Moorcock-Lechte theory on hand?)
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  193. OP 05/18/13(Sat)18:13 No.9131338
  194. Replies: >>9131399
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  197. >Did Cryska say
  198. No but she talks about how much she liked that place to Yuuya
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  200. >Was the idea that
  201. No
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  203. >Yuuya and Latrova with Bald Dude and Zhar
  204. Bald guy is the base commander so he's not with them.
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  206. > Shiranui Sangata (?) i
  207. It's still the Shiranui Second (Ni-gata), Phase 3.
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  209. >is repaired with Berkut parts
  210. What the fuck no
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  212. >and is now a two-seater
  213. Was always a two-seater (they loaded measuring instruments or whatever on the second seat when testing)
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  215. >Did they actually do any fighting before they lose control? How does that go?
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  217. On their first run (before the fort laser shows up) they pretty much wiped out all the laser-classes on the battlefield on their own without taking a hit, and retreat to resupply.
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  219. The fort laser shows up and they're sent out again, prafka is jacked to maximum and this time the Shiranui is on the battlefield.
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  221. >orbit divers
  222. Showed up before the fort laser.
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  224. >(how do they know that? did they try it? do they have an expert in Moorcock-Lechte theory on hand?
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  226. Bunch of guys on a ship talking about shit as usual, one says that maybe a G bomb might work on it, the other guy says no way it'd work because that.
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  229. The storm cloud caused by its ridiculously powerful laser (which also creates vacuums) jams communications but for some reason they can receive, just not send.
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  231. From what it does someone speculates that it might be reading their communications or something.
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  236. Anonymous 05/18/13(Sat)18:24 No.9131399
  237. Replies: >>9131407 >>9131444 >>9131472
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  239. >>9131338
  240. >The storm cloud caused by its ridiculously powerful laser (which also creates vacuums)
  241. why doesn't the whole atmosphere in the area just burn up at this point
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  244. Bunch of Russians blow themselves up with S-11s to clear the way to the Laser Fort, some Zhar kids attack it and get vaporized. Latrova decides she has to S-11 the Laser Fort, telling Yuuya that he was like her son or something (that Yuuya is like a son to her or that he resembles the son that she lost?)
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  246. But before she can hit the selfdestruct (why doesn't she pull out the bomb and toss it? why doesn't ANYONE pull out the warhead and toss it when they're not in a "I'm being eaten I have no way out but this bomb" situation but rather a "We need a really big bomb to blow a hole there" situation) Cryska's ghost appears because of the prafka, Inia, her memories and the esper clone pods doing some SCIENCE stuff to cause Zeta Gundam.
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  248. She sings snow maiden to everyone and everyone hears it so Yuuya's not going crazy like kamille and seeing dead people. (Yui hears it, does Argos and Infinites and Baofeng all those people do they hear it?) The clone Berkuts all turn blue flames and become Funnels for the Shiranui Second, Sandek who's chilling on his boat with the other espers sees it and is all YEAH HE WAS THE BEST CATALYST AFTER ALL with his smug look.
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  250. We have a brief montage of all the rest of the cast with their own countries in their own favorite TSFs fighting across the world, the Laser Fort starts trying to snipe at A-01, Yuuya and Inia in Shiranui with Berkuts charge it as it does so.
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  252. The end.
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  254. Epilogue - 2002 - hundreds of thousands of people died but we won so there. Thank you for the money we really needed that.
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  262. OP 05/18/13(Sat)18:31 No.9131444
  263. Replies: >>9131453 >>9131458 >>9131463 >>9131485 >>9131496
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  266. She calls him "son from a foreign land".
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  268. Note that the stuff about her son is completely gone aside from bits where she just sort of references it when talking about children taken from their parents (the Kyoto bit and Kriska and Inia's past are limited to just short flashbacks of pictures and short lines too).
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  270. >But before she can hit the selfdestruct
  271. Yuuya starts yelling about how he wants to protect everything and shit (this is where they cut to everyone around the world fighting, while he yells) and then the singing starts and the ghost appears.
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  273. Latrowa and Natasha and Inia are clearly seeing the blue flame (they stare at it, their faces lit up), Sandark sees the whole thing from far away (ring of light makes it look like a total eclipse GET IT GET ITTTTT) and Yui seems to hear the song (it's just a "!?" when the song starts).
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  275. Inia says Kriska is with them (he's not HEARING things, and the blue flames are the prafka, but the ghost itself miiiiiiight be him seeing things) and they charge the fort laser.
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