1. Echofriendly - Today at 7:53 PM
2. what kind of answer do you want craig
3. i dont get it i guess
4. IAMCRAIG - Today at 7:54 PM
5. A clear one, not "he got out of hand" or tusen latching onto the one time months ago when he hadnto be kitty jailed for talkimg about a certain politician needing to be put to death
6. Echofriendly - Today at 7:55 PM
7. he would do something get modded for it
8. we would discuss what was inappropriate about it in modchat
9. he would find out
10. then IMMEDIATELY do the same thing
11. just to push buttons
12. and then say something like "i see."
13. literally just two word bullshit
14. IAMCRAIG - Today at 7:56 PM
15. Yeah dude, Im not seeing this at all im his behaviour
16. Echofriendly - Today at 7:56 PM
17. the reason I personally didnt ban him
18. is because it was making me irl upset
19. and i told the mod team i wasnt going to mod him
20. if they were just going to let him do bullshit
21. and spam garbage links
22. IAMCRAIG - Today at 7:56 PM
23. Either way, you have not clearly stated the reason.
24. Echofriendly - Today at 7:56 PM
25. especially if they were going to tell other people not to do it
26. just cuz they are afraid of hurting tolly and GRs feelings or w/;e
27. thats garbage
28. IAMCRAIG - Today at 7:57 PM
29. Garbage links?
30. Echofriendly - Today at 7:57 PM
31. people know how to behave themselves or they dont
32. tumblr links with no preview and no context
33. over and over
34. IAMCRAIG - Today at 7:57 PM
35. Sorry but that sounds awfully subjective
36. Echofriendly - Today at 7:57 PM
37. what do you mean
38. IAMCRAIG - Today at 7:57 PM
39. Eh
40. Echofriendly - Today at 7:57 PM
41. if someone tells you to post links somewhere else
42. IAMCRAIG - Today at 7:57 PM
43. Ive seen the previews?
44. Echofriendly - Today at 7:57 PM
45. why wouldnt you do that
46. ?
47.
48.
49.
50.
51. IAMCRAIG - Today at 7:57 PM
52. So maybe its your end
53. Echofriendly - Today at 7:57 PM
54. give me a reason
55. and ill stop
56. craig
57. if i told you to post something somewhere else
58. why
59. wouldnt you
60. can you even answer that?
61. nobody else purposely goes out of their way to cause problems
62. IAMCRAIG - Today at 7:58 PM
63. Im sorry but he hasnt posted tumblr links without previews =/
64. Ive seen the shit he posts
65. Echofriendly - Today at 7:59 PM
66. lol
67. IAMCRAIG - Today at 7:59 PM
68. Fuck, im a loser thats at his pc for nearly 24 hours a day
69. Echofriendly - Today at 7:59 PM
70. Craig.
71. you are wrong
72. if someone tells you to stop doing something
73. and you refuse to stop
74. what should happen
75. ?
76. Echofriendly - Today at 8:00 PM
77. and if youre purposefully doing shit to piss people off
78. what should happen?
79. am i too believe tollys good friend craig that hes not doing it on purpose
80. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:01 PM
81. Echo, stop.
82. Echofriendly - Today at 8:01 PM
83. okay so what are you going to do now craig?
84. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:03 PM
85. Not continuing this conversation with you.
86. Echofriendly - Today at 8:03 PM
87. good idea.
88.
89. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:09 PM
90. Thats a preview you damn fool
91. Echofriendly - Today at 8:09 PM
92. are you serious
93. craig
94. are you fucking with me
95. what is it a preview of bro
96. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:09 PM
97. Christ, how are you even a mod?
98. Echofriendly - Today at 8:09 PM
99. what hte fuck is that
100. craig i cant believe i ever defended someone so hardheaded.
101. what happened.
102. like literally fucking begged for you
103. this is like the worst shit coming from you.
104. you arent going to come into general chat being toxic like that again. if you dont like ben just leave dude
105. and if you dont like ben its not like you have to interact with him at all
106. theres tons of channels
107. i dont get it
108. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:13 PM
109. I dont like how he has banned people that get on his nerves or one of his friends
110. Or inner circle as it seems to be becoming
111. Echofriendly - Today at 8:13 PM
112. craig you arent banned
113. explain that.
114. even now
115. and you constantly say mean shit to ben
116. even when he isnt going mod hands
117. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:13 PM
118. Thats what confuses the shit out of me
119. Echofriendly - Today at 8:13 PM
120. explain it craig
121. its cuz youre fucking WRONG
122. CRAIG
123. YOURE FUCKING WRONG
124. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:14 PM
125. Lol
126. No, it prob is a few factors
127. Echofriendly - Today at 8:14 PM
128. okay shoot
129. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:14 PM
130. Either that or hes a hypocrite
131. Echofriendly - Today at 8:14 PM
132. how do you figure
133. please unfurl your fucking analysis.
134. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:14 PM
135. Since ive done worse than tolly ever has
136. Echofriendly - Today at 8:14 PM
137. no
138. you havent craig
139. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:15 PM
140. Pfft
141. Echofriendly - Today at 8:15 PM
142. okay, how often do you discuss mod chat with PK?
143. how often?
144. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:16 PM
145. Eh?
146. Echofriendly - Today at 8:16 PM
147. exactly
148. you dont have any idea.
149. your friend tolly is not telling you everything it seems like.
150. anyway enjoy that shit
151. sounds like a great friendship
152. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:16 PM
153. Its more that question came out of left field
154. Echofriendly - Today at 8:17 PM
155. if you were aware of his doings
156. you wouldnt think itw as out of left field
157. but you obviously arent
158. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:17 PM
159. Then enlighten me.
160. Echofriendly - Today at 8:17 PM
161. pk discussed modchat with thetm
162. GR and tolly
163. they immediately started doing the exact thing we were discussing moderation for
164. before we did ANYTHING
165. and then making snide remarks about it
166. when we tried to discuss it
167. you can literally search tollys name
168. we didnt delete his messages
169. its in main chat
170. please
171. go look
172. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:18 PM
173. And that was? Posting tumblr links 'without previews'
174. Echofriendly - Today at 8:18 PM
175. no
176. that was just one thing
177. he was told hey post that in x channel
178. thanks
179. no big deal
180. he kept doing it
181. ONE (1) post got deleted
182. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:19 PM
183. Post what and where?
184. Echofriendly - Today at 8:19 PM
185. and he goes "oh i see"
186. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:19 PM
187. Zero context being given
188. Echofriendly - Today at 8:19 PM
189. the context is when asked to do something he gets upset and defensive
190. and the fact that modchat is leaked to him
191. why even bother with that crap?
192. when people post music shit in the gen chat we tell them to move
193. and they dont say shit about it
194. why is this any different?
195. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:20 PM
196. Uhh, that happens all the time echo
197. In every non music channel
198. Echofriendly - Today at 8:21 PM
199. any kind of moderation gets pushback
200. dont post depressing shit itt
201. "wow mods are nazis"
202. if youre having a bad time thats one thing
203. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:21 PM
204. Now are you going to actually tell me what he did specifically or are you going to keep alluding to it?
205. Echofriendly - Today at 8:22 PM
206. what do you mean
207. dates or? i dont get it
208. do you know tolly?
209. i feel like you dont know him
210. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:23 PM
211. You keep saying he posted things he wasnt supposed to in x channel
212. Echofriendly - Today at 8:23 PM
213. no
214. he posted things
215. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:23 PM
216. But you have not stated what they were
217. Echofriendly - Today at 8:23 PM
218. he got told to post them elsewhere
219. and then he didnt
220. spamming tumblr links
221. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:24 PM
222. Unless it's something offensive then thats out of your hands dude
223. Echofriendly - Today at 8:24 PM
224. i dont want to go back and find some specific depressing shit
225. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:24 PM
226. We all post garbage in random channels
227. Echofriendly - Today at 8:24 PM
228. okay
229. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:24 PM
230. And ben continues @ing everyone for?
231. Echofriendly - Today at 8:24 PM
232. let me do a search on you real quick craig
233. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:25 PM
234. Im pretty sure I've posted a link to my nes robinhood ost to general multiple times
235. Or things vaguely related to the channel
236.
237. Echofriendly - Today at 8:25 PM
238. scrolling back i cant find anything
239. youre going to have to show me
240. cuz i think you always post in the right place
241. and the last 10 pages of your chat show that
242. its almost like you follow posting guidelines to make the place enjoyable for everyone
243. and not just yourself
244. hmmm
245. weird.
246. if i wanna know what craigs darkest dungeon dudes are up to i can go to general gaming
247. cuz otherwise i'll never see it in the general scroll through
248. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:27 PM
249. You prob have missed me shouting about stuff I did in a game in general
250. Echofriendly - Today at 8:27 PM
251. thats fine
252. but if i told you to stop spamming your DD pics in general
253. would you keep doing it or?
254. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:27 PM
255. If it helps, ive been preoccupied and not posting as often for the last couple of months
256. Lets see
257. Depends on the context
258. Echofriendly - Today at 8:28 PM
259. wow
260. craig.
261. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:28 PM
262. Am I doing one after the other?
263. Echofriendly - Today at 8:28 PM
264. wow
265. are oyu seriously pretending right now
266. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:28 PM
267. Or is there hours or more between them?
268. Echofriendly - Today at 8:28 PM
269. drop that shit
270. answer hte question
271. im not listening to you play dumb
272. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:28 PM
273. Hoo boy echo
274. Echofriendly - Today at 8:29 PM
275. okay now i recognize this banter.
276. you get my point.
277. okay thanks craig
278. glad you see my point of view.
279. have a nice night.
280. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:29 PM
281. Eh?
282. It feels like you do not understand a single thing I say
283. Echofriendly - Today at 8:30 PM
284. craig
285. read my question again
286. please
287. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:30 PM
288. Or maybe youre being willfully ignorant
289. And I asked context
290. Echofriendly - Today at 8:30 PM
291. what does spam mean
292. you know what it  means craig
293. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:30 PM
294. Am I spamming them or am I posting them every few hours or more?
295. Echofriendly - Today at 8:30 PM
296. youre fucking with me now because you know the answer
297. if you keep doing it. then you  are wrong.
298. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:31 PM
299. Former I'd stop but that isn't what tolly did
300. Echofriendly - Today at 8:31 PM
301. agree or disagree?
302. if you keep doing something after asked nicely to stop
303. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:31 PM
304. The latter I would tell you to go to hell
305. Echofriendly - Today at 8:31 PM
306. are you being cool or not?
307. tolly was spamming
308. one after hteo ther
309. like multiple links on one page
310. you can literally scroll back
311. and look at it
312. but you REFUSE TO
313. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:32 PM
314. Yeah that does not sound like him at all
315. Echofriendly - Today at 8:32 PM
316. GO LOOK
317. i am done
318. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:32 PM
319. And ive seen enough of general to know
320. Echofriendly - Today at 8:32 PM
321. DONE CRAIG
322. and leave ben alone
323. he didnt do anything
324. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:32 PM
325. Nope
326. Echofriendly - Today at 8:33 PM
327. nothing to you
328. nothing to tolly.
329. its unfair.
330. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:33 PM
331. Whom owns the discord?
332. Echofriendly - Today at 8:33 PM
333. craig listen.
334. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:33 PM
335. Who assigned moderators?
336. Echofriendly - Today at 8:33 PM
337. either tolly is not here. or i am not here.
338. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:33 PM
339. Who had the final say on the rules?
340. Echofriendly - Today at 8:34 PM
341. craig listen. either tolly is gone or i am.
342. tolly didnt spend hours fucking arguing to keep jon do
343. or to not ban craig
344. thats why im a mod
345. because i dont let people go
346. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:34 PM
347. And that tells me so much more than what youve been vaguely talking about echo
348. Echofriendly - Today at 8:34 PM
349. i dont like to see people banned
350. and i refused to ban tolly
351. because he was sassing me and that would be unfair.
352. you cant get all up in your feelings and make shit decisions.
353. thats why tusen had to unban tolly.
354. you cant just do shit like that.
355. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:36 PM
356. Unban?
357. Echofriendly - Today at 8:36 PM
358. yea the first time he was banned for being a shitter
359. like a week ago
360. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:36 PM
361. Seriously echo, this is what I mean by not everything being explained
362. Echofriendly - Today at 8:36 PM
363. how are you unaware of this
364. hes like your best friend or w/e right
365. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:36 PM
366. Not that specifically
367. Echofriendly - Today at 8:37 PM
368. then stop coming all up in peoples shit with half hte facts
369. ask tolly
370. why he was banned the first time
371. ask him
372. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:37 PM
373. Good lord, you start to actually talk about what happened then you backpedal
374. Echofriendly - Today at 8:37 PM
375. i wasnt there when he was banned the first time.
376. so you need to ask tolly
377. your self
378. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:38 PM
379. He doesn't know
380. Echofriendly - Today at 8:38 PM
381. wow surprise.
382. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:38 PM
383. He still doesnt know why for sure
384. Echofriendly - Today at 8:38 PM
385. let me look at hte ban list real quick
386. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:38 PM
387. The most is that he spoke to you guys about the shitty atmosphere lately
388. Which I agreed with
389. Echofriendly - Today at 8:38 PM
390. he didnt speak to me
391. ive been busy for weeks trying to get my shit together.
392. but when i finally started chatting again
393. its this shit
394. how lame is that.
395.
396. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:39 PM
397. Also it isnt just tolly that im going to bat for, seeing ahb jump ship also tells me shit has gone bad somewhere(edited)
398. Like real fucking bad.
399. Echofriendly - Today at 8:40 PM
400. thats vague
401. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:41 PM
402. Ahb wouldnt say much other than things becoming lame, especially with the mods.
403. Echofriendly - Today at 8:41 PM
404. i am totally listening craig.
405. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:41 PM
406. And lord knows I tried to get him to open up more
407. Echofriendly - Today at 8:41 PM
408. well let me tell you a secret
409. i told tusen and ben to fire all the mods
410. including me
411. and that i didnt want to be a part of the too many cooks problem occuring
412. because mixed messages are being sent
413. and its not good
414. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:42 PM
415. Youre telling me.
416. Echofriendly - Today at 8:42 PM
417. no craig
418. i am telling you
419. and you're still acting like i enjoy this shit
420. like i want to get frustrated at some dude on the internet being a shitter?
421. really?
422. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:43 PM
423. Well youre still here, and ive been in my fair share of internet shitshows via chat
424. Echofriendly - Today at 8:43 PM
425. i quit
426. craig
427. and i left the server
428. but like 10 people asked me to come back
429. and i dont want cinn to get sadder
430. does tolly talk about the depressed people on srsoc?
431. its basically the entire crew
432. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:44 PM
433. Oh lord, I had to block cinn for the reason you have for tolly being banned
434. Echofriendly - Today at 8:44 PM
435. posting links?
436. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:45 PM
437. Being annoying as hell
438. Echofriendly - Today at 8:45 PM
439. no
440. thats not why tolly was banned
441. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:45 PM
442. Heh
443. Echofriendly - Today at 8:45 PM
444. he would say something snide or some shit and then i would mention it in modchat like "is this guy always a dick"
445. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:45 PM
446. You know, ive had about 4 different people messaging me about this
447. Echofriendly - Today at 8:45 PM
448. and then GR and tolly would immediately focus on that shit
449. like they heard me say it
450. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:46 PM
451. Every single one has had a different reason
452. Echofriendly - Today at 8:46 PM
453. and
454. did anyone
455. say
456. he was annoying
457. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:46 PM
458. So thats why im skeptical about all of this
459. Echofriendly - Today at 8:46 PM
460. craig
461. did anyone say he was annoying
462. you dont have to say who
463. thats a breach of trust
464. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:47 PM
465. Look at it from my point of view for a second
466. Echofriendly - Today at 8:47 PM
467. so no
468. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:47 PM
469. I have 4 people saying something different and contradictory things
470. Echofriendly - Today at 8:47 PM
471. eh
472. im glad those people care enough about you
473. to want you to stay and not be mad
474. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:48 PM
475. None of them with much of anything solid enough to back them up either
476. Echofriendly - Today at 8:48 PM
477. craig why are they trying to make you stay
478. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:48 PM
479. So what could it be, I wonder out loud
480. Echofriendly - Today at 8:48 PM
481. ?
482. they could just let you believe whatever you wanted
483. and be cool
484. i am also curious
485. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:49 PM
486. Considering how vocal I am you know that couldnt happen
487. Echofriendly - Today at 8:49 PM
488. what do you mean?
489. what couldnt happen?
490. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:50 PM
491. If someone is being vocal about something admin did in general, you cant exactly let that go on, can you?
492. Echofriendly - Today at 8:50 PM
493. i think its cuz its not chill
494. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:50 PM
495. Jesus christ echo
496. Echofriendly - Today at 8:50 PM
497. ?
498. what
499. why cant we just love eachother and not be all fucking dick heads about it
500. its kind of annoying that people cant take moderation with any fucking stride
501. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:51 PM
502. Because you wronged someone unjustly
503. Echofriendly - Today at 8:51 PM
504. and nobody has ANY PERSONAL Accountability
505. no
506. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:51 PM
507. And the way things have been handled are leading to a decline
508. Echofriendly - Today at 8:51 PM
509. chill general
510. got modded
511. dude i could give a fuck
512. i just want people to not be mad
513. but if someone is actively being a dick on purpose
514. its not chill
515. we both know that
516. and tolly sure as shit isnt going to go "yea craig i played them liek a fiddle come play games with me im not a shithead"
517. so
518. gg
519. what fucks tolly up craig
520. and this is why he cant win
521. we didnt
522. delete his chat logs
523. its all there for you to scroll back and read.
524. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:53 PM
525. Do they not get deleted when someone leaves a server?
526. Echofriendly - Today at 8:53 PM
527. we stopped
528. cuz people are fucking nuts
529. and take meds
530. IAMCRAIG - Today at 8:53 PM
531. Ive had that happen with my own
532. Echofriendly - Today at 8:53 PM
533. and people who do that are sometimes also weirdly clever
534. we have totally had some people pull some fucked up shit
535. and then be like "nah i didnt say that"
536. but like obvs they did
537. everyone fucking saw it
538. but we cant post a SS cuz its delted oh well
539. well his shit aint