MH moves house

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[14:18:32] <alpateam> sadly i still haven't reached stills FP....
[14:18:46] <zzzi> hotgun
[14:18:50] <zzzi> hi and hola
[14:19:03] <zzzi> can we readd adopt ?
[14:19:33] <Hotgun> is he active again?
[14:19:38] <Hotgun> I don't want a ghost here.
[14:19:41] <Friese> hi Hotgun
[14:20:48] <zzzi> well i may not be willingful to grab ops for totally not helpful players
[14:21:04] <zzzi> void/darkomen/...
[14:21:14] <zzzi> like i did for months
[14:21:40] <Hotgun> Not sure how that factors in with having a non active player in the alliance.
[14:22:32] <zzzi> having not helpful players ? it surely means a lot for those grabbing big part of rewards this alliance has amassed in last 6-7 months
[14:22:53] <zzzi> as anyone being in this chat has had many chance to notice
[14:22:57] <zzzi> chences
[14:23:03] <zzzi> chances..
[14:23:07] <Hotgun> Goats not in the game
[14:23:11] <Hotgun> why is he a subject?
[14:23:23] <zzzi> cos alliance efficiency is the subject+
[14:23:31] <zzzi> and lot of players want him back
[14:23:40] <zzzi> that is another subject
[14:23:53] <Hotgun> He's Not playing the game.
[14:24:11] <zzzi> this alliance is just you or the other 39 players
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[14:24:16] <zzzi> just to know
[14:24:21] <the5thrider> hi zzzi
[14:24:23] <the5thrider> welcome back!
[14:24:24] <Hotgun> Diversifying alliances is a welcomed.
[14:24:25] <zzzi> hi 5th
[14:24:36] <zzzi> answer my question please
[14:24:45] <zzzi> cos i was here when this thing was made
[14:24:51] <zzzi> and i remember what was said
[14:24:52] <the5thrider> ?
[14:25:22] <Hotgun> Lotta of things have changed, pretty simply put.
[14:25:32] <zzzi> one sided only
[14:25:33] <Arudna> And lotta things NEED to change.
[14:25:52] <the5thrider> <-- "answer my question please"  asking me?
[14:25:58] <zzzi> no 5th
[14:26:06] <Hotgun> Arudna, you are welcomed to leave. I've had enough people let me know about your whining.
[14:26:20] <Hotgun> I honestly am past giving a fuck when it comes to babysitting
[14:26:36] <Hotgun> It's my Bday, it's 7am, Far from the time to bring up petty shit to me
[14:26:40] <Arudna> Pardon me, but there's only 1 person I know that ever had an issue with me, and we resolved that.
[14:26:57] <Arudna> And I was not trying to insult anyone
[14:27:03] <the5thrider> whoa it seems I stepped into... something
[14:27:07] <the5thrider> backing away....
[14:27:11] <Arudna> Just saying, lot may have changed, but we need more changes to move forward
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[14:27:23] <Aramoro> Someone summoned me ?
[14:27:25] <zzzi> well hotgun the fact is you've never time to consider any of us
[14:27:30] <Hotgun> The passive chipshots won't fly.
[14:27:34] <zzzi> (happy birthday)
[14:28:05] <Hotgun> Never time to consider?
[14:28:11] <zzzi> yes
[14:28:55] <zzzi> anyway the reply you gave is really nice ("Diversifying alliances is a welcomed.")
[14:29:08] <Hotgun> Right
[14:29:12] <Hotgun> we talked about this before
[14:29:14] <zzzi> that more or less is a yes to my question
[14:29:46] <zzzi> meaning this alliance in your opinion is just you
[14:29:55] <Aramoro> Did not see this answer....
[14:30:39] <Hotgun> Everyone comes and goes, I pose questions and ask "thoughts" on stuff I post. You know this.
[14:30:44] <Aramoro> ha before I arrived, ok
[14:30:55] <Hotgun> I'm not here to make friends, just keeping the machine rolling. No one is safe from that
[14:31:08] <Aramoro> No one but you HG
[14:31:08] <Hotgun> Stay active/stay in, is how it goes here. and Always has.
[14:31:20] <Hotgun> ya think?
[14:31:26] <Hotgun> That's why I started this
[14:31:31] <Aramoro> Well regarding the power you have --> yes
[14:31:35] <the5thrider> is this regarding goat?
[14:31:36] <Hotgun> without z, without goat.
[14:31:45] <Arudna> it is
[14:31:53] <zzzi> really as told i was here
[14:32:05] <Aramoro> So if I follow your "lead" (pardon the pun) YOU made it all, right ?
[14:32:05] <zzzi> and when you started it was a "we" not an "I"
[14:32:19] <Hotgun> after the merger, that created all sorts of butthurt shit
[14:32:55] <the5thrider> is goat back? I thought we were just waiting for him to come back to give him his spot back?
[14:33:01] <Hotgun> No he isn't
[14:33:08] <Aramoro> He will this week end probably 5th
[14:33:08] <Hotgun> this is all for a fucking ghost spot.
[14:33:23] <Hotgun> Probably....then Probably could get in on the 5th
[14:33:33] <Hotgun> No clue how you all create so much shit out of NOTHING
[14:33:44] <Aramoro> ...
[14:33:56] <Hotgun> Anyways, I'll paint it black and white. If you don't like being in my alliance, leave.
[14:34:07] <Aramoro> Well... you may have noticed HG, that I did not sign the paper
[14:34:16] <Aramoro> You know why ?
[14:34:19] <Hotgun> Not the goal I had setup when logging on, but I am far from ready to deal with kiddos.
[14:34:24] <Arudna> Ara the paper was not introduced yet
[14:34:25] <Arudna> lol
[14:34:26] <Aramoro> because i KNEW you'd answer this, told them...
[14:34:31] <alpateam> xD
[14:34:36] <Aramoro> well, now it is useless anyway Arudna
[14:34:43] <Aramoro> I was right
[14:34:47] <Aramoro> and this answer proves so
[14:35:04] <Aramoro> (not that I'm happy of it, far from it)
[14:35:04] <Arudna> You guys are ALL missing the point.
[14:36:24] <Arudna> The point is communication. Adopt is just a side affect of that issue.
[14:36:39] <Hotgun> How long you been around again?
[14:36:42] <Hotgun> 11months?
[14:36:44] <Hotgun> No?
[14:36:46] <Hotgun> Ok then.
[14:37:03] <Hotgun> It ebbs and flows, shit comes and goes.
[14:37:05] <Hotgun> just like people
[14:37:16] <jersey> that was kinda poetic
[14:37:26] <jersey> and Happy Bday hot
[14:37:31] <Hotgun> depends on the month, on how many new recruits we have to bring up, feed and wipe their ass.
[14:37:40] <Hotgun> ty, big plans :)
[14:37:51] <jersey> cool
[14:37:51] <Hotgun> So this is all getting more and more comical as the time passes
[14:38:16] <the5thrider> well to be fair, if adopt did nto get someone to cover his account, he wasn't going to get op rewards anyway and the "kicking while on vacation" policy has been in effect for some time. While I may or may not agree on the policy, it has been in effect for others... goat was just the biggest guy that it has affected
[14:38:21] <Hotgun> First off....the people that weren't here before alliances were made...Have no fucking idea how much of a dick I am.
[14:38:43] <Friese> i am paying attention
[14:38:44] <Hotgun> ADOPT ASKED ME ABOUT LEAVING ANYWAYS, he finished his CS.
[14:38:54] <Hotgun> wanted to sell his spots
[14:39:05] <Hotgun> schems*
[14:39:39] <Hotgun> I've kept it cool for a while, just to let this machine keep rolling. But if people want to whine and cry, I can welcome you to a harsh world of zero-fucks-given.
[14:40:10] <Hotgun> I'm not setting out to be the worlds best leader...ffs we are the top clan in a struggling game.
[14:42:07] <the5thrider> Regardless, we are the top clan... by a long shot. We should not be tearing ourselves apart. This would be a bad thing and I think we can all agree on that
[14:42:27] <the5thrider> we have gotten a lot of good things out of being the top and we should not lose sight of that
[14:42:32] <Hotgun> We've talked about that, and chopping it up could benefit the server.
[14:43:01] <the5thrider> new players would benefit the server. Chopping it up wouldn't change that
[14:43:12] <Hotgun> new players aren't coming.
[14:43:23] <Hotgun> They don't advertise, they put out half ready shit
[14:43:26] <the5thrider> nothing we do will make new players come or, conversely, not come.
[14:43:34] <Hotgun> you've been here long enough to see how this all plays out
[14:44:23] <Hotgun> bet there are plenty of thoughts people have, I welcome action. It's been stale for a while.
[14:44:26] <the5thrider> I mean the solution to all this seems obvious... when goat comes back, add him back in.
[14:44:42] <Hotgun> Right
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[14:44:48] <the5thrider> everyone trades a few purples and we move on
[14:44:51] <Hotgun> But until then, we should bitch and moan about it....
[14:44:57] <the5thrider> hit a few ops, do a few rifts
[14:44:58] <Hotgun> no wait...thats for the women.
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[14:45:16] <Aramoro> sexism won't help...
[14:45:34] <Hotgun> they just moan better.
[14:45:46] <Aramoro> ...
[14:46:57] <Aramoro> The point is not only Goat... But I'm sure it's pointless talking about it anyway... I say let everybody think peacefully about what he wants to do / say. Sound reasonable to me
[14:47:04] <Aramoro> sounds*
[14:47:44] <Aramoro> But what i heard from you HG, if I'm not mistaken is --> I decide , scram if you all don't like it. Can you confirm please ?
[14:48:20] <the5thrider> so what is your suggested solution? I have not heard it
[14:48:32] <Hotgun> I make the final decision, if that is what you are asking. If you want to bitch about it, go to my complaint department.
[14:48:36] <Aramoro> evrybody heard my solution for days 5th
[14:48:42] <the5thrider> I think everyone has basically the same solution -- when goat reappears, we readd him
[14:48:59] <Aramoro> not talking about goat, but thanks for your kind answer HG
[14:49:03] <Hotgun> I don't just charge out and start booting motherfuckers, I have a system in place...and has been since the second week of alliances.
[14:49:04] <the5thrider> I must have missed it, but I play at different times
[14:49:38] <Aramoro> No worries 5th
[14:49:41] <Hotgun> same here
[14:49:48] <Hotgun> how much of the alliance did you reach with it?
[14:50:00] <Aramoro> bah, as I said HG, you don't seem very interested in exchanging views
[14:50:04] <Hotgun> Post in discussion and keep it bumped?
[14:50:08] <Aramoro> Which is your absolute right
[14:51:08] <Friese> The Shifters would be TS not MH
[14:51:10] <Friese> i am confused
[14:51:15] <Aramoro> And didn't know it was your B day, otherwise wouldn't have charged today
[14:51:23] <Hotgun> Confusing times
[14:51:32] <Friese> maybe i didnt have my ass wiped yet ^^
[14:51:34] <Hotgun> it's just a day, no better time than now.
[14:51:37] <Aramoro> héhéhé
[14:51:44] <the5thrider> sorry guys I have to go to work. I will try to jump back into the convo later tonight
[14:51:50] <Aramoro> Want me to wipe it freeze ? hhaha
[14:51:53] <Friese> later 5th
[14:51:54] <the5thrider> happy birthday
[14:51:55] <Aramoro> later 6th rider
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[14:53:03] <Aramoro> Well summon me in kong chat if there is a need / guild talk that requires my peonic presence . Later guys
[14:54:08] <potatopeppie> oh
[14:54:09] <potatopeppie> stuff
[14:54:16] <potatopeppie> Hotgun
[14:54:20] <Friese> wb potatopeppie
[14:54:28] <Hotgun> yes pep
[14:54:34] <Hotgun> unload with haste please
[14:54:53] <potatopeppie> ok
[14:55:26] <potatopeppie> would like to ask you if in the future, when it comes to kicking people or bringing new folk in, we'd have a small vote (only 5 people needed) to agree
[14:55:58] <Hotgun> tried that, and well past it. As far as kicking, it's simple 3 days and you are on the block. Everyone knows this.
[14:56:15] <Hotgun> goat got 9 days, plenty enough.
[14:56:17] <potatopeppie> yes but
[14:56:24] <potatopeppie> can we try this again?
[14:56:30] <potatopeppie> just in discussion board
[14:57:10] <potatopeppie> "hi, id like to hire/kick x, who agrees?"
[14:57:40] <Hotgun> Doubtful, not a fan of tryin that again.
[14:57:52] <potatopeppie> ..please?
[14:57:52] <Hotgun> Seems we may be dropping a large chunk of the roster anyways.
[14:58:09] <Hotgun> So, whoever splits, can build however they want.
[14:58:30] <potatopeppie> for the past week or so
[14:58:35] <Hotgun> Just the feeling I am getting from this, and like I said. Diversifying alliances could definitely be good.
[14:58:36] <potatopeppie> ive been asking others
[14:59:04] <potatopeppie> http://pastebin.com/TjUCfjk7
[14:59:15] <potatopeppie> ^everyone seems in favour
[14:59:42] <Hotgun> haha
[14:59:51] <Hotgun> ^quote that response after reading that.
[14:59:57] <potatopeppie> ..why?
[15:00:05] <Aramoro> you arrive after the fight pep, kinda
[15:00:10] <potatopeppie> its just a small thing you can do to keep the peace, HG
[15:00:16] <Hotgun> omg ffs
[15:00:25] <Hotgun> PEP IM NOT HERE TO PLACE PEACEKEEPER FOR FFS
[15:00:27] <Hotgun> YOu know better
[15:00:50] <Aramoro> afk, doorbell
[15:00:57] <zzzi> it's me ara
[15:01:01] <zzzi> no need to go to open
[15:01:12] <zzzi> will leave stuff in front of the door
[15:01:18] <Aramoro> back
[15:01:20] <potatopeppie> look man, everyone i asked this agreed
[15:01:30] <potatopeppie> the rest were hard to reach
[15:01:34] <alpateam> .order
[15:01:41] <potatopeppie> if all MH members want something
[15:01:47] <Hotgun> Like the "everyone' agreed on a name change that I didn't give a flying fuck about.
[15:01:48] <potatopeppie> why would you bar it?
[15:01:52] <zzzi> alpa fleets ?
[15:01:53] <alpateam> .order new E27 carb dm 1923 tit 2899 sel [1h10m]
[15:01:55] <potatopeppie> yes, well, that worked out right?
[15:01:56] <alpateam> ye
[15:02:02] <Hotgun> Check it right now.
[15:02:05] <zzzi> attack E please
[15:02:07] <Hotgun> You will see where I am headed.
[15:02:20] <alpateam> .order new E28 390 dm 1244 sel [56m40s]
[15:02:21] <potatopeppie> where are you headed?
[15:02:23] <alpateam> 27?
[15:02:38] <alpateam> .order 4 del
[15:02:52] <Aramoro> just look alliance roster pep
[15:03:06] <potatopeppie> what about it
[15:03:15] <Aramoro> the name
[15:03:19] <potatopeppie> i know
[15:03:22] <Aramoro> ha ok
[15:03:24] <potatopeppie> its irrelevant
[15:03:30] <alpateam> .order new E26 om 1075 AP [1h15m]
[15:03:43] <potatopeppie> HG
[15:03:48] <potatopeppie> you go enjoy your birthday
[15:03:53] <potatopeppie> we talk about this tomorrow?
[15:04:09] <alpateam> .order 2 del
[15:04:14] <Hotgun> Tomorrow, I half expect to see 12 people in the alliance when I get on.
[15:04:28] <potatopeppie> we dont have to do scorched earth
[15:04:35] <Aramoro> .calc 5.51 *2
[15:04:36] <Toiletron> Aramoro; 5.51 *2 = 11.02
[15:04:38] <Hotgun> No, just spread it out.
[15:04:39] <Aramoro> 9 fleets home
[15:04:43] <potatopeppie> i suggest tomorrow so everyone has time to calm the fuck down
[15:05:04] <Friese> i am calm
[15:05:13] <zzzi> E28 (totally calm)
[15:05:18] <Friese> ready
[15:05:21] <zzzi> who has fleets for e28 ?
[15:05:23] <Aramoro> E28 , approach it calmly
[15:05:23] <zzzi> go friese
[15:05:26] <Aramoro> I do
[15:05:27] <zzzi> go aramoro
[15:05:31] <Aramoro> 11.02 million
[15:06:01] <Aramoro> done, though not 11 million because of cap
[15:07:15] <Friese> didnt mean to interrupt
[15:07:23] <jersey> .order
[15:07:34] <zzzi> jersey
[15:07:37] <zzzi> L with Ap
[15:07:38] <zzzi> please
[15:07:44] <jersey> yessir
[15:08:03] <jersey> done
[15:08:32] <zzzi> thanks a lot
[15:08:40] <jersey> my pleasure
[15:08:45] <Aramoro> Don't thank me, I'm just myself
[15:08:52] <Aramoro> (touching my tits now)
[15:08:56] <Aramoro> y u m m y
[15:10:51] <Hotgun> So, no other comments?  kids all calm yet?
[15:11:08] <Hotgun> Just making sure I got it all in.
[15:11:14] <zzzi> kids ?
[15:11:19] <Friese> there's really not much to comment about
[15:11:21] <zzzi> i'm close to be able to be your father
[15:11:42] <Aramoro> héhéhé
[15:11:49] <Hotgun> you're near 60z?
[15:12:12] <Aramoro> Hg, why being so rough ?
[15:12:19] <zzzi> 40ish only
[15:12:30] <Aramoro> 40ish ++ yeah ^^
[15:12:31] <Friese> i dont like the condescending tone, but since this has all the classic elements of a dictatorship i'm scared to speak up
[15:12:33] <zzzi> but you've no idea of how many things you can do at 12
[15:12:38] <Friese> after all i'm just a pleb ^^
[15:12:38] <Hotgun> I have had people linking me others comments for a while
[15:12:53] <Aramoro> Bah, we know you have your Kapos
[15:12:57] <Hotgun> No one will pipe up when im around, unless it is super passive, with a tail between their legs
[15:13:57] <Aramoro> We try to "pipe up" when you're around man
[15:14:10] <Arudna> As Friese said, we are newbies. We can't just throw ourselves around yet. Still getting used to the rankings here.
[15:14:13] <Aramoro> But it's quite hard to have a talk with you
[15:14:26] <Hotgun> No it isn't, you just say what you gotta say.
[15:14:29] <Friese> wasnt all that serious arudna
[15:14:42] <Aramoro> That's what Freeze saud with sarcasm
[15:14:43] <Arudna> But I do feel the point of an alliance isn't exactly working out with the current system
[15:14:47] <Hotgun> Drop the sugar coating pussy foot agenda, and spit shit out. either it gets chatted about or shot down.
[15:14:50] <potatopeppie> might i suggest that we table this discussion til tomorrow?
[15:15:00] <Hotgun> Arudna, you've been here how long?
[15:15:00] <Aramoro> See your last sentence HG
[15:15:11] <Aramoro> read it later when you'll be calmer
[15:15:17] <Aramoro> you'll see all the anger t holds
[15:15:27] <Hotgun> Holy shit....No, it is a system.
[15:15:27] <Aramoro> just an advice
[15:15:32] <Hotgun> Not anger, grasp this.
[15:15:41] <Aramoro> oh well
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[15:16:12] <Hotgun> I get angered when I am telling 15 laborers what to do, and they are stand around with thumbs up their asses.
[15:16:21] <Aramoro> ...
[15:16:34] <potatopeppie> ara
[15:16:35] <potatopeppie> HG
[15:16:37] <Hotgun> This is comical at best, because out of all the new "ideas+strats" that have came and gone. theres about 8 of us still here
[15:16:38] <Aramoro> pep
[15:16:39] <Hotgun> pep
[15:16:40] <Hotgun> Stop
[15:16:41] <potatopeppie> can we selfdestruct MH tomorrow
[15:16:51] <Aramoro> why tomorrow ?
[15:16:54] <Hotgun> No clue why you try to play peacekeeper now
[15:16:54] <Aramoro> better day?
[15:17:01] <Hotgun> yOu like to rile shit up when I aint here
[15:17:02] <Aramoro> yeah me neither to be honest
[15:17:10] <Hotgun> or drop ideas towards other denoting me
[15:17:12] <Aramoro> Let's let it out
[15:17:21] <Hotgun> Been like that since the get go, I take it for what it is.
[15:17:21] <Aramoro> now that we crossed a line, no need walking backward
[15:17:32] <potatopeppie> so that HG has 1) more time and 2) has some time to quietly consider the proposal to let the player kicking/joining process have some checks and balances
[15:17:33] <Aramoro> Better face the fact
[15:17:36] <Hotgun> There are no lines.
[15:17:59] <Aramoro> Well, I'll be back tomorrow then, with the same feeling the opinions will be the same
[15:18:12] <Hotgun> without question.
[15:18:19] <Aramoro> I'm sure :)
[15:19:50] <Friese> so apparently it does matter how long someone's been here when it comes to have a say at all (shutting down arudna two times now), but it doesnt matter, when it comes to activity
[15:20:03] <Friese> activity however does not matter the slightest when it comes to decision making
[15:20:08] <Friese> this is all pretty interesting
[15:20:27] <Hotgun> without activity, they wouldn't be here.
[15:20:47] <Hotgun> Each person tends to surge in playtime when joining, then give it 2 months...it will scale back down.
[15:21:24] <Friese> true, just saying the "system" is really hard to understand
[15:21:27] <Hotgun> the ss i have of arudna talking about the problems of MH hasn't earned her any favors.
[15:21:53] <Hotgun> Specifically calling me out, goes only a hanful of ways.
[15:21:55] <Aramoro> HG ? If I follow you well, any player being more active than you is safe and deserves respect, right ?
[15:22:13] <potatopeppie> (so we're not tabling this?)
[15:22:17] <Hotgun> Far from it ara
[15:22:26] <Hotgun> I've never been the most active, from day 1.
[15:22:36] <Aramoro> SO I did not understand your last sentence
[15:22:43] <Aramoro> Porbably because I'm not a native
[15:23:08] <Hotgun> You know I had to vouch you in here?
[15:23:10] <Aramoro> Anyway, just trying to "understand" the system
[15:23:15] <Hotgun> Just to shed light on something else
[15:23:25] <Aramoro> "vouch" ?
[15:23:30] <Hotgun> Due to the way you talked in regular chat
[15:23:34] <Hotgun> before joining
[15:23:48] <Hotgun> People were super worried about having you here
[15:23:58] <Hotgun> I went over them, and pulled you in.
[15:24:07] <Hotgun> So, there's a splash of system for you.
[15:24:20] <Aramoro> Didn't know this, thanks for the "pass"
[15:24:24] <Aramoro> but still, HG
[15:24:38] <Aramoro> No need to be "harsh" on people
[15:24:51] <Hotgun> I don't sugarcoat anything man.
[15:24:52] <Aramoro> There is no way we can do things without all teeth out ?
[15:24:54] <Hotgun> Not worth it
[15:25:01] <Aramoro> Not syaing sugarcoating dammit
[15:25:07] <Aramoro> there is a middle way
[15:25:21] <Aramoro> I'm not wiping my ass with gold, but i still wipe it dam,
[15:25:29] <Hotgun> I speak loud when I want to be heard, anyone can shield their ears.
[15:26:02] <Aramoro> Man, for real... what does it gives you?
[15:26:08] <Hotgun> We've tried this a lot of ways over the past few months, and this will be another one.
[15:26:24] <Aramoro> I'm the frank type, but I understand people's sensibilities
[15:27:12] <Aramoro> Want me to be honest ? I hate when you do the rockman like this, and we're not exactly friends... but still why going to extremes ?
[15:27:25] <Hotgun> extremes?
[15:27:27] <Aramoro> Is this a matter of being the boss ?
[15:27:30] <Hotgun> have you seen me clear the roster?
[15:27:42] <Aramoro> not what I'm saying
[15:27:54] <Aramoro> What I say is your words are pretty harsh
[15:27:58] <Hotgun> I've had this same conversation many times, no patience for it.
[15:28:04] <Aramoro> Oh well, ok then
[15:28:12] <Aramoro> I can say I tryied
[15:28:15] <Hotgun> They are words, they aren't harsh. A kick to the face is harsh.
[15:28:32] <Aramoro> Dunno, I'm  zero violence
[15:28:44] <Aramoro> well zero.one
[15:28:48] <Aramoro> anyway ^^
[15:28:56] <jersey> omg  you should try violence at least once,   what a rush
[15:29:01] <jersey> lol
[15:29:02] <Hotgun> hhaha
[15:29:15] <Hotgun> just don't break your hands
[15:29:19] <Hotgun> that shit is terrible.
[15:29:24] <Hotgun> Heads are real hard.
[15:29:28] <Aramoro> If you knew my sports carrier...
[15:29:36] <Aramoro> anyway, not the subject
[15:29:44] <jersey> boxer's fracture once...drunk fight
[15:29:51] <jersey> that shit hurts
[15:30:03] <Aramoro> Proud not to have ever hit the first
[15:30:13] <Hotgun> my right pinky has had the bfracture about 4 times, permanently relocated, and raised :(
[15:30:19] <Hotgun> makes putting on gloves a chore.
[15:30:21] <jersey> ouch
[15:30:38] <jersey> never hit first either ara,  just make a point of hitting last
[15:30:47] <Aramoro> Well, if you gentlemen don't mind, I'm gonna drop a big turd (peacefully ofc)
[15:30:59] <jersey> mmk   enjoy  lol
[15:31:03] <Aramoro> That's such an american way of saying things jersey ^^
[15:31:12] <jersey> American?
[15:31:13] <Hotgun> If it's to the point of talking shit, I get ready to swing. I'm over the shoving matches, that shit doesn't fly around here :P
[15:31:20] <jersey> what does that have to do with it?
[15:31:31] <Aramoro> the "I hit the last dude, yeah" stuff
[15:31:44] <Aramoro> Feels like all Bruce Willis and others of the kind movies ^^
[15:31:46] <jersey> not American at all,  just me
[15:31:47] <Hotgun> ww2 ref?
[15:31:47] <Hotgun> lol
[15:31:53] <Aramoro> as well...
[15:31:55] <Hotgun> too soon?
[15:32:03] <Aramoro> not going into politics now
[15:32:10] <Aramoro> going to poop
[15:32:12] <Aramoro> later
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[16:12:41] <Nekromos> and what paper was that you meantiont in your post hotgun?
[16:13:45] <Hotgun> one that pep was having people sign, trying to get some different method on booting/recruiting
[16:14:20] <Hotgun> Too much new blood on it, for me to respect it tbh. I'll be here after many of people come and go, already has been the case.
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[16:16:01] <potatopeppie> HG, the entire top FP was on that
[16:16:12] <potatopeppie> with the exception of void, since i kept missing him
[16:16:28] <Hotgun> They are still new blood.
[16:16:32] <Hotgun> FP is fucking cheap atm
[16:16:47] <potatopeppie> ... that just doesnt logically follow
[16:16:59] <Hotgun> just because they have it, doesn't mean they level up positions.
[16:17:07] <potatopeppie> the people that arent on it are people i couldnt reach
[16:17:10] <potatopeppie> not people that disagreed
[16:17:18] <potatopeppie> everyone i asked this agreed, except aramoro
[16:17:29] <Hotgun> It doesn't matter.
[16:17:34] <Hotgun> That is the only point.
[16:17:43] <Nekromos> hmm
[16:18:05] <Hotgun> And I didn't boot arudna like that thing even said. I said I didn't know what was going on with those spot....fuck it I'm over chatting about this
[16:18:26] <Hotgun> I have no reason to appease anyone with pointless conversation.
[16:18:57] <potatopeppie> im also not interested in pointless convo, just wanted to correct your misconception
[16:19:13] <Hotgun> What misconception was made?
[16:19:31] <potatopeppie> [16:14:24] <Hotgun> Too much new blood on it, for me to respect it tbh.
[16:19:59] <Hotgun> 4 people on there who I would even partially listen to about the alliance
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[16:20:07] <potatopeppie> the old blood wouldve agreed if i couldve reached them
[16:20:13] <Hotgun> so yeah, lotta new blood that doesn't have any reason to weigh in on shit
[16:20:47] <potatopeppie> HG, the thing is, even if it had 39 names, you wouldnt have considered it
[16:20:51] <Hotgun> They can all agree the sky is yellow, it won't matter.
[16:20:54] <Hotgun> No shit.
[16:21:08] <Hotgun> I've stated this, multiple times, but somehow...people keep losing sight.
[16:21:30] <potatopeppie> i assumed that, because you once agreed to change the alliance name, you were open to consensus decisions
[16:21:41] <potatopeppie> everyone told me no, but i wouldnt believe them
[16:21:51] <potatopeppie> then you proved me wrong
[16:22:01] <Hotgun> Time has shaped many things
[16:22:06] <Hotgun> along with my views towards this shit
[16:22:07] <potatopeppie> and its sad, but at least the discussion is over
[16:22:20] <Hotgun> wasn't ever needed, that's the issue.
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[16:23:46] <potatopeppie> what wasnt needed?
[16:24:03] <Hotgun> The letter and effort that went into it.
[16:24:28] <Hotgun> Almost as cool as the sale clusterfuck.
[16:25:01] <potatopeppie> i think it was absolutely worth it
[16:25:11] <Hotgun> Makes sense.
[16:25:27] <potatopeppie> because it ended all speculation