What Happened at Azuregos

Seeing as a lot of people want to know what happened at the Auzregos raid, or didn't get the whole story, I'll tell it as it is.

From what I've gathered Indi and Grud were going to do Mauradon when Leper was recruiting people for the Azuregos raid. Indi told Automute since Auto wanted to do world bosses. Auto told others that if they wanted to do Azuregos to whisper Leper.

Members of <Nihilum> were invited to the Azuregos essentially on the conditions of being mostly in the PvP raid, who's job was to protect the PvE raid while they did Azuregos, and that members of <Nihilum> would not be receiving any loot.

Everyone shows up to Azshara, and we start getting ready. During this period of time, a lot of people are fucking around since we aren't pulling Azuregos and because the raids are still being set up, people are buffing, ect. This of course means that the fine autists that make up <Nihilum> do what they do best and shitpost to their hearts content, posting such fine pasta's as "This is <name> with a message for <Surf's Up>. Can you stop harassing our healer Kasandra? Her mailbox is almost full," kind of shit. A lot of people shitposting, but mainly Grud and Earwen. To me this wasn't much of an issue at the time since we weren't doing anything, however it becomes an issue later on.

We get to the first attempt, the PvE group pulling at around, 60, 80 in Azshara, while the mages in PvP group hold the bridge with blizzard and the melee hunting anyone else. This doesn't work out and we wiped.

The second attempt was a new plan (at the C O N F I R M E D    K I L L period) where the idea was to drag Azuregos to the small plateau where the only way to get to it is through two bridges (at 65, 80 in Azshara). Mages are told to AoE the bridge they did before, while the PvE group works on Azuregos. Indi brings up a valid point at this time; what about the other bridge? He's told not to worry about it, and lo and behold, the horde come from that bridge. Obviously the horde KNEW the plan and logged out there and relogged once we were in position, the most perfect set up possible (ignore the fact that the bridge was undefended and that they could've easily walked around the path to the south). This was actually said in the discord. So we wipe on this attempt.

At this point there's a lot more waiting around since everyone has the 15 minute debuff. Horde are constantly moving, as well as us as everyone watches each other and Azuregos. Apparently at this time (I did not know about it since I wasn't paying attention, I was just running around harassing horde at this point due to boredom), a few people were spamming /y chat with macros again, go figure. Some of this spam included Samuroo or Rhox, maybe both.

At some point someone in discord says that there has to be a spy since the horde know what we're doing. It turns out that there actually is, but everyone is unsure how they got in. Now, we have some people spamming in /y chat about the people ganking us, and one of those people are in the discord. The obvious connection is that those people are helping the horde wipe them. So since the people spamming about Samuroo/Rhox are in <Nihilum>, and <Nihilum> is a 4chan guild, and 4chan is full of trolls, obviously <Nihilum> only showed up to troll the Azuregos attempt.

While this is definitely a possibility, as I noticed someone had linked the discord in /krog/ (and multiple times thereafter), it was also discovered that someone not in <Nihilum> but in the raid was streaming the raid. They were streaming the raid with discord fully audible and chat visible, including the raid warnings that contained the discord invite.

So the two ways a spy likely got in are either through a member of <Nihilum> passing out the discord, someone watching the stream getting the discord (literally anyone on either faction), or anyone else in the raid passing out that discord. But since people were spamming memes (Grud and Earwen), it was assumed that they were most likely responsible.

Now that spies are discovered in discord, things really and truly begin to fall apart. Someone mentions that anyone not using their character's name should be kicked (I believe the first victim being kicked was Earwen since he was using something like "My name keeps changing aaaa", with Indi agreeing that Earwen should be kicked, nice job bro). This idea quicky falls apart when it is realized that Rhox is literally sitting in discord with the name Rhox. Someone actually says "hey whos Rhox?" at which point Rhox yells into the mic at full volume "WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK IT IS FAGGOT IM RHOX" (or something close to that), causing some laughter. He's kicked and a few others are too.

A new discord is made, but the problem persists since nothing actually changed. Anyone invited could generate new invites, which causes issues since anyone kicked can easily be re-invited, even re-inviting themselves if they make their own links. The raid quickly breaks down into Everyone v <Nihilum>, with the main argument being <Nihilum> is a 4chan guild, the discord was linked in 4chan (someone found and linked the thread), and therefor <Nihilum> is working with the horde and should be kicked. Eventually the raid falls apart since no progress is being made.

During the spy time and raid falling apart, #1 Warlock from <Nihilum>, Iexi, being of sound mind and master of skill, pulled Azuregos on three separate occasions with searing pain, wiping members of the raid. This only exacerbated the problem and further pissed off the raid at <Nihilum>.

The Aftermath:

Eventually the raid fall apart, everyone packs up and gets the fuck out. Rhox and his squad swoop in, kill Azuregos and get phat loot bros xD.

In the meantime, <Nihilum> is on lockdown. Everyone is arguing about what just happened, and a lot of shit is being flung around. I blanked out at this point because I did not give a shit anymore, so this is kinda blank space. It essentially boiled down to, certain people are idiots because they were fucking around too much and not taking it seriously, and that Automute should've reeled in the fucktards ruining the raid, which admittedly he did not. During this time, Iexi also gquits after being called a mentally challenged individual (a fucking retard).

After a while, things cool down a bit and people calm down. A few people hop online over time wondering what happened, with few answers given out since most people are annoyed. During this time it is rumored that Qlurf continues to stir shit up, believing its basically now or never that Indi puts his foot down. Indi confronts Automute in discord chat about why he wasn't taking it seriously.

The argument is that Auto should've take it seriously since he wanted to do world bosses, but he obviously wasn't since he didn't keep retards in check. Auto said that he didn't want to, and that instead he wanted to play minecraft at the time (I'm honestly surprised there wasn't more shitposting about this in /krog/). Indi took this as Automute NEVER wanted to do world bosses, and that he wasn't serious. I believe Automute was trying to say that at that current time, he wanted to play minecraft (autist), even though he wanted to do world bosses (it was 9 or so PDT iirc). Indi asked why he wanted to go to Azuregos if he didn't want to take it seriously. Auto said he was taking it seriously, he just didn't want to do it then. There's some bickering back and forth, eventually ending with Indi saying "w/e I'm out" and then gquitting.

People are surprised that Indi left, and its assumed he's just fucking around at first, then people are upset. There's some more arguing and back and forth. Things eventually calm down, and since there nothing much has happened.

Tl;dr
<Nihilum> got invited as PvP group to help Azuregos. Spies are found in discord and are assumed to be invited by <Nihilum> due to retards spamming in /y chat. <Nihilum> gets blamed for the raid failing, Indi gets mad. Indi yells at Automute for not stepping up as a GM and taking care of business. Indi gquits after Automute tries to deflect blame.

Indi's main argument that Automute should've done something is a moot point to me, since there wasn't much Automute could've done. Auto and Indi were in two separate groups, Indi being in the PvP group, and Auto being in the PvE group.

Indi said people like Grud and Earwen should've been taken care of since they were spamming like jackasses, but Auto said he didn't notice since they were doing it in /y (which has a limited range) and because they were in a separate raid group.

Personally I believe even if he did kick them it wouldn't have helped. Assuming that no one invited them back, they would more than likely sit there and still spam like retards. If Automute told them to stop talking, they probably would've kept doing since both are retarded. The only way I could see them stop doing it, is if Indi threatened a lootban, which no one would likely take seriously since it isn't our raid.

As for Iexi, he should've been kicked long ago. The kid is a shitter who spams searing pain as his main form of DPS, then wonders why he died when he loses aggro.

The current plan as of now seems to be to continue as if nothing happened. We're going to keep doing MC and Ony while hoping Indi comes back. If he doesn't by BWL, Crabberson said he would raid lead (I'll probably leave at that point).