04:54 < Darkwater> So kyren, will there we a mechanics system like wires in Terraria?
04:54 < Darkwater> If yes, how advanced?
04:54 <+kyren> yes, more advanced, not *exactly* like terraria
04:54 <+kyren> less block based
04:54 <+kyren> think more LBP
04:54 < ekuurh> will you please explain the wrapping stuff? :)
04:54 <+kyren> the world wrapping system is very very simple when you play
04:54 <+kyren> and ungodly complicated to program
04:54 < Midgard> You are developing Starbound with the same engine that Terraria used?
04:55 <+kyren> no not in the slightest, it shares nothing with terraria at all other than being the same genre
04:55 < Darkwater> Weren't you also gonna release the engine after Starbound's release?
04:56 <+kyren> if it were up to me I would love to release the engine after release, but it's not up to me
04:56 < Aralicia> Kyren > Does that bother you to be compared so much with Terraria ?
04:56 <+kyren> not really, it's the same genre, and the genre is not very big
04:56 < Slayer9825> Do you know when the game would have an estimated release?
04:56 <+kyren> end of the year, ish
04:56 <+kyren> "when it's done and we hope it's done at the end of the year"
04:57 < Slayer9825> I really wish i had access to a beta
04:57 < Slayer9825> I would even pre-order
04:57 <+kyren> we don't feel comfortable accepting money without giving people something
04:57 <+kyren> so I don't think pre-order would happen
04:57 < ekuurh> kyren, do you ever join any game-coding contests like ludum dare?
04:57 <+kyren> we did icfp a while back
04:58 <+kyren> and placed.. not that great due to last minute bug
04:57 < Guest13446> Is the water physic the same as in terraria?
04:58 <+kyren> no the water physics are nothing at all like terraria
04:58 <+kyren> not that much is
04:58 <+kyren> other than the fact that they're 2d block based genre
04:58 < Slayer9825> But, from peoples point of view, it seems terraria inspired
04:58 <+kyren> it's fine, it's the same genre of game
04:58 <+kyren> the genre has lots of room
04:58 < Skippy_> Slayer: would you rather potentially ruin your first experiences of starbound with game breaking bugs, or wait for a stable release and enjoy it to the fullest?
04:58 <+kyren> not even game breaking bugs, it's not *finished* yet
04:58 < vigrid> kyren: what were the specific reasons for switching to C++ from XNA, performance? wider platform support?
04:59 < sb10> vigrid: all of these
04:59 <+kyren> we didn't switch from xna, we didn't start in xna
04:59 <+kyren> he's right though
04:59 <+kyren> sb10 can answer for me
04:59 < Wangotango> what's the hardest thing to code been so far?
04:59 <@Tiyuri> the wereturtles
05:00 <@Tiyuri> those were hard to program
05:00 < ryuu> Hello. Do you especially choose to not use .net to have the opportunity to port the game to other platforms ?
05:00 <+kyren> you can port the game to lots of platforms even on .net
05:00 <+kyren> when we started it was just me
05:00 <+kyren> and I had a large set of working code in C++, and even though it's far from perfect it's sort of common in the video game industry so I chose that
05:00 < vigrid> kyren: the monogame port of terraria wasn't very stable I heard?
05:01 <@Tiyuri> just to clarify, kyren has no connection to terraria
05:01 <+kyren> I have no connection to terraria yes thank you :D
05:01 <+kyren> other than being a fan
05:01 < Darkwater> kyren: How long do you think it will take to get bored in Starbound's world?
05:01 <+kyren> I dunno hopefully a long time
05:01 <+kyren> there are multiple worlds though
05:02 < Skippy_> How do animations work with the random creatures?
05:02 <+kyren> they have common sets of animation
05:02 <+kyren> some creatures might have animations that others don't
05:02 <+kyren> but they're all in a larger set of supported animations
05:02 < Slayer9825> I hope i enjoy the game at release
05:02 <+kyren> I hope you do to Slayer9825
05:02 < Slayer9825> Are this team and the terraria team not alike at all?
05:02 <+kyren> they both have tiy in them
05:03 < vigrid> kyren: how large is the codebase for Starbound currently? LOC?
05:03 <+kyren> 49k non-whitespace LOC
05:03 <+kyren> ish
05:03 <+kyren> and growing rapidly
05:04 < vigrid> kyren: thanks, 49k is not a lot, so it must be well structured. speaking of which - what libraries do you use?
05:05 <@Tiyuri> vigrid, kyren wouldnt tell you, but her code is incredibly well structured
05:04 < abcmonk> what are the main 'goals' of starbound and how does the overall mechanics differ to say games like terraria?
05:04 <@Tiyuri> The main goal, if I had to pick one. Is to provide that buzz of finding new content almost indefinitely
05:04 < ekuurh> will there be an option of coding addons to starbound?
05:04 <+kyren> there will be a modding api at some point
05:05 <+kyren> there might even be a cool like.. out of process API
05:05 <+kyren> over a socket
05:04 < Skippy_> not at release?
05:05 <+kyren> the modding api will come probably soon after release
05:05 <+kyren> and it will grow a lot
05:05 <+kyren> expect it to go through several stages
05:06 < sb10> Tiyuri: so there will be not some kind ultimate bad guy to kill? just bosses?
05:06 <@Tiyuri> sb10 secrets ;)
05:06 < Wangotango> how many updates are to be expected after release? or will you just keep going for as long as possible?
05:07 <@Tiyuri> The core team will update the game for as long as they can, when they finally move onto a new project I am going to put a team together to continue updating the game
05:07 <@Tiyuri> also, during the period in which the main dev team is updating, I want the secondary update team to be producing small updates each friday
05:07 < Wangotango> will the team consist of members already making the game, or will you recruit new members?
05:07 <@Tiyuri> a bit of both
05:08 <@Tiyuri> I'll make sure there is always *A* team, of talented people, updating the game
05:06 < vigrid> I have a question to the team. IIRC, Terraria is finished - are you planning on releasing the source code for it at some point, like id Software does with their games? That would be sweet
05:08 <+kyren> we don't own the source code to terraria
05:08 <@Tiyuri> vigrid, that's entirely up to Redigit, it's his source code
05:08 <+kyren> it's up to redigit
05:09 < Mianso> Hey tiy about the races.Can avians wear other races gear?
05:09 <@Tiyuri> Mianso, yes
05:09 < Yveul> Quite sensitive question - how old are you, and for how long are you into coding ?
05:09 <+kyren> 30, forever
05:09 <+kyren> I'm oooold
05:09 < Sharks12> will we see Nyan cats? :p
05:09 <+kyren> we're keeping the references to a minimum
05:10 < hazzary453> kyren, I still think mspa is strange
05:10 <+kyren> mspa is strange and wonderful and I will hear nothing bad about it
05:11 < sb10> kyren: what is mspa?
05:11 <+kyren> mspaintadventures
05:11 < vigrid> kyren: have you livestreamed your coding or would you consider doing so?
05:11 <+kyren> I have, I did the other day
05:11 <+kyren> I will again
05:11 <+kyren> probably when I'm doing something slightly more interesting
05:11 < Wangotango> i know that before terraria's release there was controversy on 4chan regarding how many threads were made on it on it's /v/ board, with claims that it was an attempt at viral marketing. how will you react if the same controversy rises with starbound?
05:11 <@Tiyuri> Wangotango: we'll just do our thing
05:11 < vigrid> kyren: ace. where can I see it?
05:12 <+kyren> it's not on now, but twitch.tv/kkyren
05:13 < AndyDX> Will you need a good computer to handle the game?
05:13 <+kyren> hopefully no, you won't need a great computer
05:14 <+kyren> we're trying for like.. sub 2.0ghz single core integrated video, but we might not get that low
05:14 <+kyren> it will DEFINITELY be no higher than a 2.0ghz dual core with modern intel or really old non-intel gpu
05:14 <+kyren> but we're not done makin it fast yet
05:15 <+kyren> yeah, we hope
05:15 <+kyren> I can hope
05:15 <+kyren> I mean, okay right now, it runs 60fps at 1920x1080 on like..
05:15 <+kyren> 2.4ghz dual core with an old discrete gpu
05:15 <+kyren> it's not gpu bound really
05:15 <+kyren> it's non-insane opengl driver bound
05:16 < vigrid> kyren: what do you spend your cpu cycles on in the game mainly?
05:16 <+kyren> well, after the lighting engine which uses like.. depending on the resolution, like 10-25%
05:16 <+kyren> of one core
05:16 <+kyren> mainly.. drawing tiles and waiting on opengl
05:17 < Danny> May I ask a question? Will Apex have different building styles than humans? Similar to how Avians have different building styles?
05:17 <+kyren> yes they will
05:17 <+kyren> and do
05:17 < vigrid> kyren: great :) so there seems to be plenty of time to spend on AI and background sim like circuitry and user generated mechanisms
05:18 <+kyren> oh, platforms
05:18 <+kyren> vigrid: you asked about platforms
05:18 <+kyren> all the platforms
05:18 <+kyren> libraries we use.. not many
05:18 <+kyren> all the pc platforms
05:18 <+kyren> I could get it running under freebsd in a day
05:18 <+kyren> probably
05:19 <+kyren> libraries we use are like
05:19 <+kyren> freetype, vorbisfile, libpng
05:19 <+kyren> couple of things like that
05:19 <+kyren> then SDL and opengl and that's it
05:19 < vigrid> kyren: so pretty basic stuff. it's all custom built then, not even libnoise? :)
05:20 <+kyren> no, not even libnoise
05:19 <+kyren> we even use our own mixer because we have a tragic almost fatal case of NIH
05:20 <+kyren> which is both good and bad
05:20 <+kyren> I mean.. perlin generators are not really that hard
did things like disabling the fancy lighting (say if we had a really simple lighting system to fall back on?)
05:20 <+kyren> well, the lighting is not yet but will be out of thread
05:21 <+kyren> so hopefully it will be 60fps and then degrade to much less than 60fps updates while keeping the rendering at 60fps
05:21 < vigrid> kyren: do you use any test automation or is everything manual?
05:21 <+kyren> no we don't really have a lot of test automation, we have tests but it's not really proper test driven development
05:22 <+kyren> I kind of wish we had more tests, but I'm not sure test driven development really works all THAT great in an environment like this
05:22 < vigrid> kyren: what do you think about test automation in game developmen in general? is it even remotely useful?
05:22 <+kyren> it could be useful I think, but it's so hard to test in-game mechanics like that
05:23 <+kyren> I dunno, I might just not be smart enough to make it useful
05:23 < oholiab> kyren: so any chance of in-game computers? Been playing Minecraft with Computercraft and the embedded lua driven computers in that make automating and centrally controlling things by writing your own code hella fun
05:23 <+kyren> man I want in-game computers
05:23 <+kyren> if it were up to me I would waste a month making sure that the circuitry system could emulate a Z80
05:23 <+kyren> and include a Z80 built-in chip
05:24 <+kyren> but I haven't gotten to go crazy with that yet
05:24 <+bartwe> YES
05:24 <+bartwe> a Z80
05:24 <+bartwe> you are my favority genius programmer kyren
05:24 <+bartwe> awwww
05:24 <+bartwe> group hug
05:24 <+kyren> group hug
05:24 < hazzary453> will there be wiring????
05:24 <+bartwe> oh yes
05:24 <+kyren> there will be wiring
05:24 < oholiab> kyren: haha, awesome :D Embedding lua is fairly simple from what I gather and if there's already wiring I guess it would just be making an API for the in-game computer to activate said wiring
05:25 <+kyren> oh good point
05:25 <+kyren> when we make a wiring api we definitely need mod hooks into it
05:25 <+kyren> er, we need to make a wiring api for mods
05:25 <+kyren> just pretend that sentence made sense
05:24 < MsPtibiscuit> What kind of music do you listen to while coding, guys ? :3
05:26 <+kyren> I listen to random dubstep / chillstep music that omni hands me, and chiptunes, and the mspa albums over and over again for more times than is healthy
05:27 < Memeej> Will you guys make more games like this?
05:27 <+kyren> I hope so Memeej
05:27 <+kyren> if this works out, it's not like we plan on stopping
06:01 < SniperNLN> kyren, so if its almost no limits, except bandwidth.. Can we expect may be even a huge amount of slots, if specific server is used, for example 100+ of players (of course with a compareable world)?
05:29 <+kyren> I hope it won't be bandwidth limited
05:29 <+kyren> but it might be
05:29 <+kyren> block based games take up lots of bandwidth in worst cases
05:30 <+bartwe> bartwe: we'll keep working on starbound after release for a good while, so it is likely some issues that exist at release will be fixed later
05:30 <+bartwe> blockbased games can be cheap on the network
05:31 < bob___> Which programming language did you learn first?
05:31 <+kyren> I don't even remembmer..
05:31 <+kyren> Ti calcluator basic I think
05:31 < bob___> How many do you know
05:31 <+kyren> uh..
05:31 <+kyren> depends on how you count
05:31 <+bartwe> kyren knows them all
05:31 < Wangotango> kyren, have you worked on any games before starbound?
05:31 <+kyren> not any good professional games unfortunately
05:32 <+kyren> just my own crap
05:32 < vigrid> kyren: I'm just looking at the livestream you recorded. vim... impressive minimalism - are there any C++ IDEs for Mac that you could recommend?
05:32 <+kyren> xcode?
05:32 <+kyren> I mean, you're not exactly spoiled for choice
05:32 <+kyren> I dunno I'm not an IDE person
05:32 < Starbi> Bartwe, have you got your hamster back? :D
05:32 <+bartwe> Starbi: the hamster was a lie
05:33 <+kyren> I know, ranging from meh to really really well
05:33 <+kyren> C lua python javascript java C++ objective-c scheme perl shell uh..
05:33 <+kyren> thinking
05:33 <+kyren> ruby-ish
05:33 <+kyren> oh php a bit
05:33 <+kyren> um
05:33 <+kyren> I'm missing some
05:34 <+kyren> a tiny bit of C#
05:34 <+kyren> html if you count that
05:34 <+kyren> no, there's some I'm missing
05:34 <+kyren> fuu
05:34 <+kyren> uh
05:35 <+kyren> some variants of basic
05:35 <+kyren> I want to know haskell better
05:35 <+kyren> oh, crap coldfusion
05:35 <+kyren> that pos
05:36 <+kyren> I wish coldfusion and php were stricken from my head
05:36 <+kyren> oh, man scala
05:36 <+bartwe> Scheme
05:36 <+kyren> a bit of D
05:36 <+bartwe> and C
05:36 <+kyren> I dunno some of them I don't know that well / have forgotten
05:36 <+bartwe> the grandparents
05:36 <+kyren> I knew perl crazy well but forgot most of it
05:36 < Wangotango> (reposting) is there anybody contributing to the game outside of the those shown on the team page? will they get credit and mentions for their work inside of the game?
05:37 <+kyren> I think everyone contributing is on the team page atm?
05:37 < Rampage> kyren: what made you guys use wanderlust rebirth as a means of support instead of just opening up the game to pre orders?
05:38 <+kyren> we don't like to take money and give people nothing in return
05:39 < Wuzhles> Wait, isn't it really late where kyren is?
05:39 <+kyren> it's really early
05:39 <+kyren> I woke up early
05:40 <+kyren> I'm on GMT time atm I think
05:40 <+kyren> I stay in one spot, but my sleeping schedule is a *world traveler*
05:40 < vigrid> thanks for answering the questions. good luck with the game. bye! :)
05:40 <+kyren> aww thank you vigrid
05:40 <+kyren> :)
05:41 < Wicstar> What language are you coding the game ?
05:41 <+kyren> C++ :)
05:42 < Wangotango> will there be a combat demo video anytime soon?
05:42 <+kyren> I hope we put out a combat / gameplay video pretty soon actually
05:42 <+kyren> I don't know when, though
05:43 < hazzary453> will the wiring be like terraria were the switch provides power or like real life were it lets it through?
05:44 <+kyren> kind of
05:44 <+kyren> it won't be terraria's wiring system
05:44 <+kyren> but it does provide power
05:44 <+bartwe> terrarias system was too simple
05:44 <+bartwe> no crossing wires limits so much
05:44 <+kyren> what bartwe said
05:45 < Rampage> kyren: were any other games used as inspiration for the design of starbound? it seems to take a few small elements from terraria as well
05:47 <+kyren> I mean, it's the same genre of game as terraria, it's a 2-d block based game
05:47 <+kyren> there's plenty of room in the genre :)
05:47 <+kyren> but building will be block by block mostly
05:47 <+kyren> or 2x2 blocks
05:46 < hazzary453> will the updates like terraria be free?
05:48 <+kyren> no, we won't have game one dlc oh god
05:48 <+kyren> no, I think we've all decided that at the very minimum engine updates and things like that will be free forever
05:49 <+kyren> if we did have dlc, which we don't have any plans for really for a very long time
05:48 < Wicstar> Kyren: Do you guys use an array to generate the land ? (C++) I want to 2d aventure game but I am wondering where to concentrate my effort for the map generation. I love the concept of randomness
05:50 <+kyren> an array to generate the land?
05:50 <+kyren> yeah, kind of
05:50 <+kyren> it's multi-level array
05:50 <+kyren> so we can unload / load specific sectors
05:50 <+kyren> because it's kind of hard to hold a 64k x 12k planet or something
05:50 < Toiletpaper> kyren will this game rely on hamachi
05:50 <+kyren> no not at all
05:51 <+kyren> it uses its own networking, but I think that integrating with steamworks is a good idea at some point, it'd be nice if you could click on a friend in steam and play with them
05:52 <+kyren> it will be based on private servers, but we want to do a lot of things that should make it easier than minecraft / terraria
05:52 <+kyren> like
05:53 <+kyren> at the very least have some convenience thing, like have upnp automatic port mapping, or reverse client / server connections
05:53 <+kyren> and hopefully something better like udp hole punching
05:53 < SniperNLN> kyren, how much players will be the cap for multiplayer?
05:54 <+kyren> I don't see a reason why you couldn't have at least 16 players on a server, it's mostly a question of bandwidth
05:54 < The_Decryptor> I hope there’s NAT-PMP support along with uPnP :p
05:54 <+kyren> yeah also nat-pmp
05:54 <+kyren> just, auto port forwarding
05:54 <+kyren> even that is like 2000% better than terraria / minecraft for non-technically-inclined users
05:54 <+kyren> I watch people struggle with minecraft / terraria multiplayer all the time
05:55 <+kyren> also, every game is a multiplayer game, so
05:55 <+kyren> what I want is a "invite player to my game" feature, hopefully integrated with steam
05:55 <+kyren> single player is local multiplayer
05:55 <+kyren> it's been like that from the beginning
05:55 < AppoX> So you can't play offline without internet? :/
05:55 <+kyren> depends a lot on what you're doing
05:55 <+kyren> it can spike when doing crazy stuff
05:56 <+kyren> I'd say alpha? I dunno it depends on how you define alpha
05:56 <+kyren> it's so not feature complete, but really I mean
05:56 <+kyren> it won't be feature complete at release haha
05:56 <+kyren> we're gonna add features for a long time
05:56 <+kyren> so, I dunno the normal names hardly apply
05:56 <+kyren> I mean, it'll be feature complete but then we'll add more features?
05:56 <+kyren> I dunno what to call it anymore
06:01 < The_Decryptor> What kinds of plans are there for mod support? Will we be able to do crazy things like we can in Minecraft or Gmod? (Where we can attach custom code to an object for certain events/situations)
06:01 <+kyren> minecraft modding is not modding
06:01 <+kyren> it's..
06:01 <+kyren> tacitly approved binary hacking
06:01 < Dassery> do you guys have fun while your coding?
06:02 <+kyren> oh I hate coding
06:02 <+kyren> :p
06:02 <+kyren> no I code all the time
06:02 <+kyren> for fun
06:02 <+kyren> erry day
06:02 <+kyren> errday
06:02 < The_Decryptor> Yeah, I really wanted to use Gmod as my main example, since you can create entirely new entities and script them via Lua there :p
06:02 <+kyren> I want gmod's modding support really bad, but gmod is a very high standard
06:03 <+kyren> we haven't decided, but bartwe has a really really neat idea
06:03 <+kyren> about modding being out of process
06:03 <+kyren> over a local socket
06:03 <+kyren> which he has warmed me up to in a big way
06:03 < JoshMad> Any word about the Avians being playable?
06:03 <+kyren> avians are playable
06:04 <+kyren> I thought that was a given
06:04 <@Tiyuri> so are Apex
06:04 <+kyren> all the races we've introduced are
06:06 < ThunderSmasher> +kyren, you must be tired typing
06:06 <+kyren> base entity type
06:06 <+kyren> I never get tired of typing
06:06 <+kyren> if there's one thing I can do is talk until you can't stand it anymore
06:06 <+kyren> anyway
06:06 <+kyren> so, the mods will be able to spawn / despawn / control / do everything that all in-game entities can do via eh.. proxy entities
06:07 <+kyren> and then there will be a higher level universe / world portion of the api
06:07 < The_Decryptor> So a mod could define a custom world?
06:07 < Rampage> ahhh very well so its more then just a scrip system then?
06:07 <+kyren> yeah, basically the same as any mod api, but with a nice socket api for it
06:07 <+kyren> based on json
06:07 <+kyren> yeah, mods would be able to load specific worlds and do other universe controller level stuff
06:07 < TautwiZZ> like [Q] what are your plans with getting it on Steam
06:08 <+kyren> it's going to be on steam, HOPEFULLY on all 3 platforms but I don't know how that will work yet since linux steam is not released
06:08 < The_Decryptor> The modding situation sounds awesome
06:08 <+kyren> we don't have a modding api yet, it's still WIP
06:08 <+kyren> bartwe has a lot of awesome ideas, though
06:08 < Rampage> sorry if this has been asked already but do you guys have any idea what your going to charge at release yet?
06:09 <+kyren> $10-$15
06:09 <+kyren> cheap
06:09 <+kyren> thank you guys for all the well wishes
06:09 <+kyren> it means a lot
06:10 < TautwiZZ> [Q] You guys are based in Europe?
06:10 < loadme> please stay focused guys. you have an extra ordinary project in your hands. wish you good luck and good progress.
06:10 <+kyren> we're based everywhere haha
06:10 <+kyren> thank you loadme :D
06:11 <+kyren> jeez.. uh
06:11 <+kyren> 5 countries?
06:11 < Vbitz> your game is one of the only 2 releases I am actively looking forward to. What your doing is amazing
06:11 <+kyren> thank you so much Vbitz
06:11 < Wurmy> I dont think they need luck or well wishes. Game looks amazing. Couldnt hurt though right. Luck best of good wishes.
06:11 <+kyren> oh we need luck :D
06:11 < TautwiZZ> [Q] does the multi-nationality and different time-zones give you any trouble?
06:11 <+kyren> a bit!
06:11 <+kyren> sometimes
06:13 < Horyzone> Is there any chance that cats will be playable ? :3
06:13 <+kyren> you're not the only one that wants cats to be playable
06:14 <+kyren> my wife won't leave me alone about it
06:14 <+kyren> she keeps coming up with, you know theoretically
06:14 <+kyren> what she would name her cat
06:15 <+kyren> kitten in an exosuit is a good race
06:15 <+kyren> make a tabby in a big purple exosuit
06:15 <+kyren> name: Lt. Colonel Batsyourface
06:16 <+kyren> Major General Mouser
06:16 < Stevil> Where abouts are you based? Do you code remotely or do you have an office?
06:16 <+kyren> everything is done over irc
06:16 <+bartwe> and git and mumble and skype and a few other tools
06:16 <+kyren> we exist in like 8 different timezones
06:17 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> mumble ftw
06:17 <+kyren> yeah okay and git and mumble and skype
06:17 <+kyren> our "office" is irc
06:18 <+kyren> because there aren't a lot of good engines for doing crazy block based stuff in 2d
06:18 < ThunderSmasher> Kyren, what was the most complicated thing you have worked on on this game?
06:18 <+kyren> ooh, nice question
06:18 <+kyren> I really liked lighting and physics and..
06:18 <+kyren> rendering
06:18 <+kyren> ooh.. hmm
06:18 <+kyren> networking was very complex, so is lighting
06:19 <+kyren> even though the entirety of the meat of the lighting code is in a 400 line header and a 700 line cpp file
06:19 <+kyren> it's some of the most mind-bending code in the game
06:19 <+kyren> I mean, "physics"
06:19 <+kyren> it's all "physics"
06:20 <+kyren> personally I don't think Physics works for platformers all that well unless they're, well, a Physics platformer
06:20 < TautwiZZ> [Q] Are there any things you guys have not been allowed to say to the community?
06:20 <+kyren> uh hahaha
06:20 <+kyren> like tiy will kill my hamster if I do?
06:20 <+kyren> yeah of course
06:20 <+kyren> I can't spill all the beans
06:20 <+kyren> just most of them
06:20 < Wangotango> will a structure completely collapse if two blocks holding it up are destroyed, or will it float, like in terraria?
06:21 <+kyren> nah, they float.. part of me wants to change that
06:21 < SniperNLN> kyren, will be the bug of unlimited water source there? xDDD
06:21 <+kyren> no water is absolutely finite
06:21 <+kyren> it's actually destructible
06:21 <+kyren> but not creatible
06:21 <+kyren> creatable
06:21 < Wurmy> Force not any further, we dont want to be mourning the loss of Kyren's hamster.
06:21 <+kyren> I don't actually own a hamster, he'd probably kill my cat
06:21 < The_Decryptor> Is water going to be compressible? It’d be nice to have hydraulics.
06:22 <+kyren> water is compressible
06:22 <+kyren> did you not see the water video?
06:22 <+kyren> it's hilariously unrealistically compressible
06:22 <+kyren> but that's the most fun
06:22 < Wangotango> is there anything you don't like about the game so far that you'd like to change?
06:22 <+kyren> oh yeah tons
06:23 <+kyren> bugs, stuff that should work better but doesn't, parts where it's just not done yet
06:23 <+kyren> which is a lot
06:23 < ThunderSmasher> Is the sort pixelly water fixed yet? Or still bothering about that until release?
06:23 <+kyren> it's just a small bug, no I haven't fixed it yet, there are tons of those
06:23 <+kyren> you're seeing behind the curtain
06:23 <+kyren> the "pixelly" water is really
06:23 <+kyren> the way the lightmap looks before smoothing
06:24 <+kyren> and then i'ts 2x2 blurred
06:23 < ThunderSmasher> How much longer until the entire Combat System is polished and ready?
06:24 <+kyren> I hope very very soon
06:24 <+kyren> on the combat system
06:24 < Walross> So Kyren, any chance of a meat planet? Please?
06:24 <+kyren> I'm working on non-stupid NPC ai as we speak, in fact
06:24 <+kyren> a meat planet haha
06:24 < Wurmy> You made it rain fish didnt you Kyren?
06:25 <+kyren> I did make it rain fish
06:25 <+kyren> they're particles, so I made it rain a graphic
06:25 <+kyren> that I thought was the funniest
06:25 <+kyren> because I'm like that
06:25 <+kyren> it's like a gentile way to nudge the artists
06:26 < matoua> will it be possible to move while attacking with a sword? thanks
kyren> yeah ofc matoua
06:26 < The_First_Gamer> How will the sprites be stored?
06:26 < The_First_Gamer> Like viewable .png files, or will they be shoved in some special format?
06:26 <+kyren> well, all the game assets will probably be shipped in our own weirdo btree db format
06:26 <+kyren> but it's not going to be a secret
06:27 <+kyren> day 1 I'll probably release tools to let you pack / unpack them
06:27 <+kyren> we're not going to keep it all obfuscated or anything
06:27 <+kyren> but it might not be like.. a folder
06:27 < sb10> kyren: this packing actually makes it load faster?
06:27 <+kyren> I don't think so, it's mostly to manage patches
06:28 <+kyren> I mean it could be a set of folders also
06:28 <+kyren> but it's so easy to sha1 sum a pak file
06:28 <+kyren> and.. I dunno I haven't decided yet
06:28 <+kyren> if it's a pak file it will be made clear what the format is
06:29 <+kyren> well okay maybe not day *1*
06:29 <+kyren> I mean, steam patching at the very least
06:29 < Wicstar> Being close to your customers is huge :)
06:29 <+kyren> I want to be here, and answer questions
06:29 <+kyren> I'm always here :)
06:29 <+kyren> we're not aloof or anything haha
06:29 < ThunderSmasher> Would that be realistic? Or do you think you need a bit more time?
06:29 <+kyren> I'm not sure yet ThunderSmasher
06:30 <+kyren> it depends on a lot of things
06:30 <+kyren> and were we decide "done enough for initial release" is
06:30 <+kyren> I think a couple of them, pets and vehicles at least
06:30 <+kyren> I would be happy with swimming in a reasonable wage after release :D
06:30 <+kyren> it doesn't have to be bucketloads of money
06:30 <+bartwe> wow
06:30 <+bartwe> still answering questions
06:30 < Wurmy> If you're going to have money fights I would suggest dimes. They hurt the least.
06:31 <+kyren> yeah it definitely does not work like that
06:31 <+kyren> silver dollars
06:31 <+kyren> leave the largest bruises
06:33 < Walross> Kyren darling, is there charge then fire weapons? Or shall they all be point-click-fire?
06:33 <+kyren> I got called darling
06:34 <+kyren> yeah, definitely charging weapons
06:34 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> Is that harassment?\
06:34 <+kyren> no?
06:34 <+kyren> I don't mind
06:34 < Walross> Also, I assume there will be launchers that lob projectiles, yes?
06:35 <+kyren> yeah ofc Walross
06:35 <+kyren> you guys didn't see the water balloon gun
06:35 <+kyren> which is how we test water
06:36 <+kyren> how long have I been answering questions?
06:36 <+kyren> what time is it?
06:36 < The_Decryptor> Please leave the water balloon gun in the final game
06:36 <+kyren> oh yeah haha definitely
06:36 <+kyren> high level item, though
06:37 < TautwiZZ> any useless items you wanna have in the game? Remeber the Angel State?
06:37 <+kyren> oh there are plenty of useless items
06:37 <+kyren> that are just there for fun
06:38 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> Will enemies explode when killed like in terraria?
06:39 <+kyren> they do right now, with like a million blood particles
06:39 <+kyren> because somebody let me decide
06:39 <+kyren> I'm sure it'll be a bit more tasteful at some point
06:39 < ryanmm> kyren are we going to be able to build similar to terraria? or is it only destruction?
06:40 <+kyren> yeah, you'll be able to build ryanmm
(BUILDING CONFIRMED!1!!)
06:41 < TautwiZZ> [Q] kyren, Blueprints to craft items?
06:41 <+kyren> yeah definitely blueprints, they'll probably just be on your character though
06:41 <+kyren> like, you yourself just become knowledgable about how to make it
06:41 < The_First_Gamer> Kyren, will the game be too power heavy (As in, needing high PC requirements to get a decent FPS)
06:41 <+kyren> no The_First_Gamer
06:42 <+kyren> we're trying very hard to get it to run on everything this side of a roll of paper towels
06:42 <+kyren> it runs on any non-foam computer atm
06:42 <+kyren> we're still working on it
06:42 < ryanmm> kyren is it going to be really sparkley like the terraria 1.1.1 update
06:44 <+kyren> no it won't be nearly as sparkly particlely
06:44 < lyraris> Do you plan on releasing later updates for the game?
06:44 <+kyren> yes very very very much so lyraris
06:44 <+kyren> so many
06:44 <+kyren> for a very long time
06:45 <+kyren> the game when we release will not be the absolute final game
06:45 <+kyren> continuous updates, all that
06:45 < CCCode> kyren what kind of buffs will armor give players?
06:45 <+kyren> all sorts of buffs
06:45 < alextie> kyren can you play at the game on your pc now?
06:45 < alextie> Kyren*
06:45 <+kyren> I can?
06:45 <+kyren> I mean of course I can?
06:46 < SniperNLN> kyren, and so how you will get your money for the updates? i know that you say it will be free, but also i knwo you all want to eat too. ^_^
06:46 <+kyren> we haven't decided yet SniperNLN
06:46 <+kyren> we know that we will absolutely not not never ever ever have
06:47 <+kyren> day 1 dlc
06:47 <+kyren> or nickel and dime dlc
06:47 <+kyren> because we all hate it
06:47 <+kyren> and we're not evil
06:47 <+kyren> think like.. pay $5 and get 6 months of stuff or something
06:47 <+kyren> something not evil
06:47 <+kyren> we might not even have dlc or anything
06:47 <+kyren> we just haven't thought about it
06:48 <+kyren> because we release a game, THEN think about dlc haha
06:48 <+kyren> we just want you to buy the game and have fun and update and fix bugs and release new stuff for a while, then later on when we need to eat, THEN think about it
06:50 < DevonX> Can you play as a avian? :3
06:50 <+kyren> yeah ofc
06:51 <+kyren> all the races are playable
06:51 <+kyren> 180%
06:51 <+kyren> but the completion level is not out of 100
06:51 <+kyren> it's out of ???%
06:52 < The_First_Gamer> Are the devs even eating/drinking/sleeping?
06:53 <+kyren> oh I drink
06:53 <+kyren> I mean
06:53 <+kyren> I drink fluids
06:53 <+kyren> I mean
06:53 <+kyren> yeah
06:53 <+kyren> I mean no
06:53 < Invalidmicah> I went into the future, bought the game and brought it back so now I am playing it. Muwahahaha
06:53 <+kyren> could you also grab the code from the future too?
06:53 <+kyren> I'd be much abliged
06:54 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> is coding starbound your fulltime job?
06:54 <+kyren> yes iasfinsdfnklsdfg
06:54 <+kyren> also answering questions on irc
06:54 <+kyren> that's my other fulltime job haha :D
06:55 <+kyren> irc username completion
06:55 <+kyren> is a lifesaver
06:55 < TautwiZZ> [Q] Kyren, Steam/In-Game achievements are a possibility?
06:56 <+kyren> I hope so TautwiZZ
06:56 <+kyren> very much
06:56 <+kyren> I'm almost certain yes, but we haven't started on it yet, because we haven't done anything steam api ish yet
06:56 <+bartwe> I'm sorry ladies and gentlemen
06:57 <+kyren> well, right now in game inputs don't pause
06:57 <+bartwe> Kyren has been answering questions for 3 hrs already
06:57 <+kyren> er, events
06:57 <+bartwe> and it is time for a break.
06:57 <+kyren> yeah I am kinda tired haha
06:57 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> BUT I WANT HER TO ANSWER QUESTIONS FOREVER
06:57 <+kyren> I said I could answer questions forever, and I LIED
06:57 <+kyren> full of lies
06:57 <+kyren> thank you all!
06:57 <+kyren> bye!
06:58 < xJudgement> bartwe you finishing up question session
06:58 <+bartwe> xJudgement: nope, but you are welcome to my twitch stream of boringness
06:58 <+kyren> no problem, thank you guys for being so supportive
06:58 <+kyren> oooh bartwe twitch stream
06:58 <+kyren> watch it
07:03 <@Tiy> I have rice crispies
07:03 <@Tiy> mm
07:04 <+kyren> sorry, I answered questions for like 3.5 hrs
07:04 <+kyren> I'm so tired :<
07:04 < psychotwo> go rest, kyren :)
07:04 <+kyren> no, I actually woke up at 1am
07:04 <+kyren> I'm not going to sleep
07:04 <+kyren> I just have to go shower, and eat