[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:28 PM]
It straight up says "a thing regarded as representative or symbolic of something else"
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:28 PM] Patrick Beahan:
metaphor and symbol are not mutually interchangeable
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:29 PM]
anything that is symbolic of something else IS a metaphor by definittion
*definition
it says it right there
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:29 PM] Patrick Beahan:
no it isn't and the definition doesn't support that
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:29 PM]
dude you must be reading something different I don't see how you can interpret that any other way
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:30 PM] Patrick Beahan:
you look at the examples presented and tell me which one applies to the flag
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:30 PM]
"A thing (object, flag, whatever) regarded as symbolic
a flag is a thing
if the flag is representative of something
whether it is a location
or ideals
or whatever
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:30 PM] Patrick Beahan:
explain which example is applicable
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:30 PM]
it is a thing that is symbolic of something else
the second definition listed
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:31 PM]
yo the definition is right there the burden to disprove it is on you buddy
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:32 PM] Patrick Beahan:
i already have!
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:32 PM]
that's a single example they use the word metaphor in a sentence
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:32 PM] Patrick Beahan:
is the flag a trapdoor of depression?
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:32 PM]
you're saying you want me to use the word metaphor in a sentence
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:32 PM] Patrick Beahan:
is the flag a metaphor for america?
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:32 PM]
yes
and the ideals that the country was founded on
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:33 PM] Patrick Beahan:
the answer you were looking for is no
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:33 PM]
it's literally a symbol of the country and it's ideals
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:37 PM] Patrick Beahan:
you actually have to use deductive reasoning and common sense
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:37 PM]
a thing (flags are things) regarded as representative or symbolic of something else (country/ideal/etc)
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:37 PM] Patrick Beahan:
oh now i give an example that shoots your argument to shit and you want me to stick to your examples huh
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:37 PM]
you can straight up plug the words into the definition and it makes sense
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:37 PM] Patrick Beahan:
it doesn't
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:37 PM]
it's not my example it's what the conversation was originally about in the first place
but yo sharks dont have hair
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:38 PM]
just sayin
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:38 PM] Patrick Beahan:
i understand where you are coming from but im saying the flag is representative of the country. it's not a metaphor for the country
that's obvious
that's my whoe point quaid
wjole
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:39 PM]
since it is a symbol of the country it is by definition a metaphor
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:39 PM] Patrick Beahan:
whole
no no no
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:39 PM]
look dude I don't care to go back and forth with no and yes and no and yes
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:39 PM] Patrick Beahan:
they are not the same thing dude. What dont you get about that
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:39 PM]
the definition is there
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:40 PM] Patrick Beahan:
define representation
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:40 PM]
you can google it just as well as I can
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:40 PM] Patrick Beahan:
not the same as a metaphor
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:40 PM]
but that's moot because a metaphor is representative OR symbolic
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:40 PM] Patrick Beahan:
well im not going to do your thinking for you and correct your flawed logic
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:40 PM]
and you yourself said the flag is a symbol which represents the country
my logic doesn't need correcting
I checked the definition of the word metaphor and there it is
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:41 PM]
can't argue with the definition
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:41 PM] Patrick Beahan:
when you show me where EVERYTHING that is a symbol is also a metaphor and EVERYTHING that represents something is a metaphor then i will concede the point
because that is the blanket statement you are making.
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:42 PM] Patrick Beahan:
and it is incorrect
no you are speaking in absolutes.
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:43 PM]
I didn't say the things you're claiming I said
I'm speaking of a specific example which was the topic of discussion, the american flag.
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:43 PM] Patrick Beahan:
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:39 PM] Quaid Morton:
since it is a symbol of the country it is by definition a metaphor
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:44 PM]
"it" being one thing
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:44 PM] Patrick Beahan:
symbols are noy by definition metaphors
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:44 PM]
you're trying to extrapolate on that statement
[‎8/‎30/‎2016 4:45 PM] Patrick Beahan:
no you said because it's a symbol, it's a metaphor. That is not true.
not all symbols are metaphors