pandemic legion ander shamis theft drama

(12:11:04 PM) Ander: Thank you for the thank you :)
(12:11:42 PM) Ander: No, Im not getting many people. Im not really leaving voluntarily , but we couldnt come to an agreement.
(12:11:45 PM) Ander: :P

(12:11:56 PM) Ander: so this is the best solution, they move to their own thing

(12:12:19 PM) Ander: I dont care about ingame politics :P
(12:12:23 PM) Ander: so no, maybe not
(12:12:26 PM) Ander: I hope they will be

(12:13:09 PM) Ander: I disabled phalanx admin
(12:13:17 PM) Ander: part of it was because he set someone to -1000000 negrep
(12:13:21 PM) Ander: and fucked with their account

(12:14:04 PM) Ander: Im prolly resigning eve now

(12:14:43 PM) Ander: yeah I hope some people will speak up when they start trashtalking me :P
(12:14:45 PM) xxxx: so did they try and get rid of you over disabling phalanx?
(12:14:51 PM) Ander: part of it yes

(12:15:09 PM) Ander: and part of it cause I accused the wrong people of some stuff

(12:15:12 PM) Ander: I was wrong on that part
(12:15:18 PM) Ander: but that wasnt really fair I think to move away
(12:15:28 PM) Ander: another part is I critizised monitization of pl.com
(12:15:33 PM) Ander: I would not allow it
(12:15:43 PM) Ander: (all these podcast shows, betting stuff etc)

(12:16:11 PM) Ander: and the thing that started it, I think was cause I called someone out who nicked money out of a donation fund
(12:16:27 PM) Ander: and he got mad, and asked elise to start this secret project to try to duplicate our work

(12:16:36 PM) Ander: cause we trusted him

(12:16:47 PM) Ander: I see it as stealing, they didnt

(12:16:56 PM) Ander: they think it was fair he could take the money

(12:17:04 PM) Ander: it wasnt only donation money
(12:17:08 PM) Ander: but the gtc referrals etc
(12:17:18 PM) Ander: it was the secondary account we had setup for emergencies
(12:18:24 PM) Ander: I wouldnt really tell you any of this hadnt grath kept his mouth shut about talking crap about me .

(12:19:01 PM) Ander: well, he's mad I dont want to sign over the sourcecode , db and content to them
(12:19:09 PM) Ander: but it's not only my call

(12:19:18 PM) Ander: thunk doesnt want derivatives of his work to be used on the new site

(12:19:35 PM) Ander: and the secret project, with people who were trying to poach his code

(12:19:50 PM) Ander: well :P
(12:19:56 PM) Ander: I dont think moving to that site is good
(12:20:03 PM) Ander: this all started when they wanted to have full control
(12:20:17 PM) Ander: and not have a moderate "madmin" who opposes shit that isnt related to ingame politics

(12:20:27 PM) Ander: I was pretty adamant at times
(12:20:39 PM) Ander: and said "hey , if you guys do this Ill shut this thing down. Cause there is no way X happens"

(12:32:14 PM) Ander: you know, I started a project this summer to actually include more people
(12:32:21 PM) Ander: and get them to get dev access and other tools

(12:32:38 PM) Ander: they actually planted guys in that project to get info on the stuff built for PL.com
(12:32:41 PM) Ander: so they could clone it

(12:44:35 PM) Ander: told you it was their plan all along

(12:45:04 PM) Ander: they said "oh we want to setup pl.com under a non-profit and move it away from your hosting"

(12:45:13 PM) Ander: and then they decide to reg it in phalanx name :P
(12:45:21 PM) Ander: not a non-profit

(12:45:25 PM) Ander: a non-profit already existed
(12:45:31 PM) Ander: and I had set it up for PL.com
(12:45:38 PM) Ander: but nobody wanted to join the board

(12:45:41 PM) Ander: because of "Liability"

(12:45:45 PM) Ander: so I was only one for years
(12:46:37 PM) Ander: from our discussion
(12:46:45 PM) Ander: [2015-11-24 18:43:02] Matthew Warrington (Captain Thunk): The situation is now out of control, you're in debt to Phalanx. Lets be absolutely honest, there's no way back from that. We're just trying to be nice as we can here and make it as easy as possible to transfer to the new domain
(12:46:50 PM) Ander: [2015-11-24 18:43:53] Peter: There's an easy way back from that, it's called "here's the paypal amount for whatever you spent thanks for fronting the bill of development" and hands are washed clean
(12:46:55 PM) Ander: [2015-11-24 18:44:49] Peter: That is the definition of a non-issue, and his name will not be associated with the new site in any way shape or form
(12:46:58 PM) Ander: so they lied essentially
(12:47:33 PM) Ander: I prefer if you do not copy paste this and leak
(12:47:39 PM) Ander: but that is what Elise said
(12:47:51 PM) Ander: that he would have no association with new site in any way shape or form

(12:58:30 PM) Ander: man someone sure write a peice on this
(12:58:43 PM) Ander: I got sent a pastebin from someone who said they are a "friend"

(1:04:10 PM) Ander: http://pastebin.com/QyvNFavt
(1:04:12 PM) Ander: someone sent me this
(1:04:27 PM) Ander: Im not sure when they will release it, but it's drama.. sure it's written in my favor. But I dont like drama.

On Shamis stealing the money:
(1:07:22 PM) Ander: he needed it cause he was out of a job
(1:07:25 PM) Ander: and had a baby on the way
(1:07:29 PM) Ander: so it was just a loan

(1:07:40 PM) Ander: but never returned it

(1:07:51 PM) Ander: and when I questioned him he told me he pretended I never asked it

(1:07:56 PM) Ander: cause if I ever did he'd skullfuck me

Where is all the money now?:
(1:28:00 PM) Ander: the 3500EUR was spent this year
(1:28:02 PM) Ander: apart from december
(1:28:07 PM) Ander: which I will send to Kearl (300EUR)
(1:28:21 PM) Ander: the slushfund held the GTC referrals
(1:28:26 PM) Ander: and that money is lost

(1:48:23 PM) Ander: you can rest assured im not going to leak the old forums