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- 100% route comparison (in progress)
- new compared to sva's:
- - saves 40-53s from songs (forget if this includes playing sonata 1 time less [playing sonata = 9s], 53s if don't uninvert for couple's which you should not have to do in fastest version of route)
- - skip snowhead intro cs saves 10s
- - skip swamp intro cs saves 10s
- - skips scarecrow's song + uses blue potion for stone mask saves ~20-25s
- - skips extra epona cs saves 17-18s
- - light arrows + gfs + hookshot in graveyard saves at least 20s, maybe more
- *** 53 + 10 + 10 + 20 + 17 + 20 = 2m10s
- - no stone mask for PF beehive loses 18s
- - no sodt pcs loses 17s
- *** 2m10s - 18 - 17 = 1m35s
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- ===== Some other fast things about new route:
- - does bremen + pendant + pool frog in same trip, sva's route does extra trip to pool for frog in cycle 3
- - only have 3 hearts during ocean spider house (this is the optimal number of hearts to have because it means you don't have to spend as much time taking damage for deathwarp)
- - no boulder hover to get into ranch for aliens (because of powder keg)
- - blast mask + aliens done in same segment, this is optimal because it minimizes the amount of igt-dependent segments and thus optimal gameplay in more parts of the run actually save real time (i.e., HESSing in cycle 2 saves REAL time)
- - depositing anju's letter in NCT, we soar away from midnight meeting and deposit letter after deku 2, very efficient in terms of movement and loading zones
- - swamp spider house is on the way to woodfall owl (this saves travel time since it's a bit out of the way after woodfall temple)
- - sva's route deposits rupees at end of cycle 2, this route doesn't do that
- - ESS dupe instead of curiosity dupe (however, this dupes 3 bottles, sva's dupe 1)
- - soars out of deku playground 2 times, also soars out of milk bar twice, ffww to ct brings us really close to deku 2
- - sva's route wastes loading zones for postman HP, this one does it with rosa + sword school
- - if you do ocean gossips AE for sonata/bean you won't have to break boulder later when doing ocean gossips. If you use biobaba grotto AE for bean/sonata then you won't have to break that boulder later when you do biobaba grotto HP
- ===== Some other bad/slowish things about new route:
- - 2 ffwws instead of 1
- - no stone mask for bad bat tree HP (wastes a few seconds if done properly)
- - sva's route sodts inside deku fence which saves some time, new route sodts in front of h&d
- - no great spin for swamp spiderhouse (this hardly wastes time, only slower because of 4 skulltulas clustered together in last room, just need to do 1 extra quickspin)
- - fire arrows + stone mask to open door for song of storms (the only slow thing about this is equips)
- - recommended to use 2 bombs to kill armos in map room instead of 2 chus (wastes maybe 1s?)
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- Some convenient things about new route:
- - can use 5 fish for fish HP (4 after beavers, 1 before swamp shooting)
- - aliens timing is much easier to do uninverted because the igt-dependent segment is much shorter which means you don't have to play as consistently for as long
- - for blast mask timing, you choose when to sodt meaning you could opt to sodt very early and make it to blast mask with perfect timing. However, it is just as possible to sodt a bit later for safety. The things you do on the way to blast mask are easy and consistent.
- - most fish for fish HP (all if only use 4 fish) are caught near beavers where it is impossible to accidentally catch spring water (catching + emptying spring water = 10s)
- - sva's route did woodfall cs skip in cycle 3, new route does not. Wastes 20s if missed.
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- Conclusions:
- Although this comparison is not complete and does not cover every aspect of each route, all the major differences/time saves have been accounted for as well as some smaller things.
- As far as I can tell, there is no way the new route isn't faster.
- Along with being faster, I'd argue that the new route is more consistent for people with decent game play. Why? Because no Woodfall cs skip (risks 20s on 1 frame trick), you catch 4 fish without risk of catching spring water (if you want a 5th fish you do have to risk spring water though), aliens have a much shorter igt-dependent segment meaning it's easier to do uninverted, and since you have hookshot/zora for keeta skip you would lose significantly less time if you were to fail it.
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