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- Blazesurrender
- The fact that I cannot allow myself to believe that I am anything better than a neutral character.
- 3:09:33 PM@DrJenWatney
- You can choose to believe anything you want.
- 3:09:48 PMBlazesurrender
- I appreciate that
- 3:10:30 PMAmy_Penn
- And your belief shouldn't challenge her world view. I mean, even if you don't believe you're a good person, doesn't make it automatically true for her.
- 3:12:44 PMBlazesurrender
- She believed that everyone has their self-justifications for their actions
- 3:13:00 PMAmy_Penn
- She's right.
- 3:13:09 PMBlazesurrender
- I have challenged that belief because I do not try to justify the shit I've done.
- 3:13:21 PMAmy_Penn
- In not trying, you already do, grasshopper.
- 3:13:48 PM
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- 3:14:01 PMLegionTheGeth
- Hola
- 3:14:08 PM
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- 3:14:11 PMBlazesurrender
- I'm confused Amy_Penn
- 3:14:17 PMAmy_Penn
- You believe your actions are caused by being a bad person, with no justification, so in a sense, your person is the justification for your actions.
- 3:14:45 PM
- You're basically saying "I have no reason for doing them. There is no justification." but by saying that, you're basically saying "There's no reason *I can think of.*"
- 3:14:50 PM
- Making the inherent reason
- 3:14:53 PM
- "you".
- 3:15:10 PMCharro
- brb, class change
- 3:15:11 PMAmy_Penn
- You've basically thought yourself into a corner where you can and always will be the bad guy.
- 3:15:32 PM
- While there are some PERFECTLY VALID justifications for your actions.
- 3:16:01 PM
- But your search for punishment has removed all possible redemption.
- 3:16:02 PM
- Which
- 3:16:03 PM
- frankly
- 3:16:05 PM
- is dumb.
- 3:16:15 PM
- You're a great human being, and a wonderful person.
- 3:16:33 PM
- You're also very busy with punishing yourself by refusing to try to heal yourself.
- 3:16:47 PM
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- 3:16:56 PMAmy_Penn
- Which hurts you - which you think you deserve, but also hurts sam, pushing her away - which you also think you deserve.
- 3:16:58 PM
- Again.
- 3:17:07 PM
- I disagree with this.
- 3:17:21 PMBlazesurrender
- So does Sam
- 3:17:32 PM
- Which is why it broke her
- 3:17:43 PM
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- 3:17:44 PMAmy_Penn
- The number one question you need to answer, babe, is if you love punishing yourself more than you love Sam.
- 3:18:11 PMBlazesurrender
- Sometimes.
- 3:18:23 PMAmy_Penn
- Nonono
- 3:18:27 PM
- this is a yes or no question
- 3:19:41 PMAmy_Penn
- If yes, let her go. If no, accept outside help. You're going to have to decide.
- 3:20:00 PMBlazesurrender
- She won't let me let her go.
- 3:20:25 PMAmy_Penn
- In that case, listen to your smart girlfriend
- 3:20:34 PM
- And pick the right option
- 3:20:35 PM
- heal
- 3:20:39 PM
- Accept help
- 3:20:46 PM
- Stop punishing yourself.
- 3:20:47 PMDetectiveChellick
- She know's what's right i think
- 3:20:50 PMAmy_Penn
- Yeah.
- 3:20:51 PMDetectiveChellick
- She wants to help you
- 3:20:55 PMAmy_Penn
- Better than you do.
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