[11/20/2016 8:11:06 PM] Sl0nderman: let me talk for a little bit about "The Sandbox Setup" and "sandbox roles"


[11/20/2016 8:11:38 PM] Sl0nderman: everyone is like "sandbox is a wild and crazy place and games are wild and crazy therefore the roles should reflect that"
[11/20/2016 8:11:45 PM] Sl0nderman: (this is kinda stemming from jimbei's post)
[11/20/2016 8:12:06 PM] Sl0nderman: in the very first sandbox setup
[11/20/2016 8:12:16 PM] Sl0nderman: after closed roles became a think in like 2011 or something

[11/20/2016 8:13:02 PM] Sl0nderman: anyway what it did was use all the roles that existed for play in main, and shoved them into an RNG machine
[11/20/2016 8:13:12 PM] Sl0nderman: what you got was a completely random YET PLAYABLE setup

[11/20/2016 8:13:31 PM] Sl0nderman: 7 / 3 / 2 is a very balanced ratio of players
[11/20/2016 8:13:47 PM] Sl0nderman: the randomness comes from what roles are in play
[11/20/2016 8:14:14 PM] Sl0nderman: sure there could end up 3 nonmeeting mafia but more often then not it is a playable setup and i would imagine that it averages to around a 50%/50% winrate
[11/20/2016 8:14:38 PM] Sl0nderman: now the attitude of people in sandbox also changes things, because originally sandbox was just like "take a break from main and play here"

[11/20/2016 8:14:58 PM] Sl0nderman: now sandbox is much more of it's own entity with it's own way to play and shit

[11/20/2016 8:15:25 PM] Sl0nderman: actually I shouldn't say main., I should say sandbox was originally take a break from competitive and training lobby lol
anyway
[11/20/2016 8:15:55 PM] Sl0nderman: in sandbox people do stupid shit all the time because there are no rules and it's for fun
[11/20/2016 8:15:57 PM] Sl0nderman: that's FINE
[11/20/2016 8:16:15 PM] Sl0nderman: but the beauty is that we're not adding these roles in to make fun, it's just creating fun out of what already exists
[11/20/2016 8:16:31 PM] Sl0nderman: FOR EXAMPLE
[11/20/2016 8:16:43 PM] Sl0nderman: fabbing your own mafia partners = fun (for you at least)

[11/20/2016 8:17:10 PM] Sl0nderman: getting a random fab gun from a role that gives out random items at a 50% fab rate = not really that fun
[11/20/2016 8:18:16 PM] Sl0nderman: i think my rant is done now i hope you guys see the point im trying to make