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- 10:08:15 pm: <obliviondoll> Considering the only line spoken by any of them included "fu*k", I'm also pretty confident it was an obvious troll.
- 10:08:32 pm: <MrGoodbar> lol
- 10:08:37 pm: <obliviondoll> Jon, same advice I have for prospective subjects - practise
- 10:08:37 pm: <Anonymoususer2> Jon, be comfortable with trancing your subject.
- 10:08:39 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> Hang out in the chatroom. If someone starts a group trance, and you're feeling confident - go with it
- 10:08:41 pm: <MrGoodbar> your typical google greeting
- 10:08:46 pm: <Bastion> I can think of something MrGoodbar:
- 10:08:46 pm: <EGnu62> @jon umm.. dont? find someone to talk to. get to know them. trance happens when they're ready
- 10:08:46 pm: <Anonymoususer2> Get to know them and what they want to do.
- 10:08:47 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> or watch and see what's it's like
- 10:08:54 pm: <Bastion> Stop being so scared of being tranced
- 10:09:00 pm: <JonSmisu> No. Trancing others. And this person set it up with me.
- 10:09:02 pm: <Anonymoususer2> Know their limits and respect themzz
- 10:09:06 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> yeah - good advice, Bastion - that's helped me to
- 10:09:10 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> too
- 10:09:11 pm: <Anonymoususer2> .darn phone.
- 10:09:13 pm: <SPalmer> Omegle has found us too the barricades who will be strong and fight with me
- 10:09:31 pm: [INFO] lydia has joined.
- 10:09:34 pm: <Lauren> Asr?
- 10:09:37 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> hi lydia
- 10:09:38 pm: <💤> hi lydia
- 10:09:40 pm: <lydia> hi
- 10:09:42 pm: <JonSmisu> I'm nervous about the whole thing...
- 10:09:43 pm: <Lauren> trigger?
- 10:09:44 pm: <obliviondoll> Hi lydia.
- 10:09:44 pm: *EGnu62 has that song from the end of les miserables in his head now .. why did she make me watch the movie ..*
- 10:09:59 pm: *Lauren has disconnected*
- 10:10:01 pm: <Anonymoususer2> It's ok to be nervous.
- 10:10:13 pm: <lydia> ya haha im a bit nervous as well, first time here
- 10:10:20 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> welcome then!
- 10:10:22 pm: <Anonymoususer2> I was definitely nervous on both ends of the spectrum.
- 10:10:25 pm: <lydia> thanks :)
- 10:10:27 pm: [INFO] EnchantingBear69 has joined.
- 10:10:28 pm: <HypnoticVoice> Welcome, lydia, don't mind the crowd.
- 10:10:28 pm: *You whisper: This might be eaiser...*
- 10:10:32 pm: <Bastion> Yeah, but you've expressed worry over being tranced on more than one ocasion. Since you have no intention to be tranced yourself, that worry is just a waste of energy and focus
- 10:10:34 pm: <obliviondoll> lydia, I recommend taking a look at /help, it's a good place to look.
- 10:10:34 pm: *Lauren snuggles with lydia*
- 10:10:35 pm: <💤> EnchantingBear69! Hullo!
- 10:10:40 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> Yay! EnchantingBear69 - hello!
- 10:10:43 pm: <obliviondoll> Hi Bear!
- 10:10:51 pm: <JonSmisu> I'm trancing someone else. I think that I can be nervous.
- 10:10:52 pm: <lydia> thanks lauren, and ill sure look at help
- 10:10:52 pm: <EnchantingBear69> Hi everybody!
- 10:10:53 pm: <Bastion> Frankly, there are other things you 'aught to be worrying about
- 10:11:09 pm: <lydia> like what?
- 10:11:14 pm: <JonSmisu> What she said.
- 10:11:17 pm: [INFO] Users in the chatroom: [ 'WannabeCow♂↓' 'HypnoFan71♂↓' '💤♂↕' 'GThor♀↕' 'Canti♂↑' 'Haru♂↓' 'HypnoticVoice♂↑' 'Scrim♂↕' 'EntrancedOtter12↕' 'Kittykat♀↓' 'obliviondoll♂↓' 'Lauren♀↓' 'JonSmisu♂↑' 'Erikaa♀↕' 'MsWebb♀↕' 'SleepySnake♂↓' 'Bastion↓' 'hypnoslutRPStacy♀↕' 'MrGoodbar♂↕' 'WiseSquirrel25♀↑' 'EGnu62♂↕' 'ElysianTail♂↕' 'WeaselBotRobo♂↓' 'fancypants↕' 'SPalmer♂↑' 'Anonymoususer2♂↕' 'HypnoticHound22↕' 'lydia♀↓' 'EnchantingBear69♂↕' ]
- 10:11:18 pm: [INFO] Sertsim has joined.
- 10:11:19 pm: <Lauren> well /help is always helpful
- 10:11:25 pm: <EnchantingBear69> Anyhow I have something important-ish to say
- 10:11:29 pm: <EGnu62> @jon actually you cant. You ARE THE HYPNOTIST. believe it. or it doesnt work anything like as well
- 10:11:30 pm: <💤> hi Sertsim
- 10:11:32 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> the floor is yours
- 10:11:32 pm: <WannabeCow> Moo
- 10:11:32 pm: <Kittykat> uh oh
- 10:11:36 pm: *Anonymoususer2 whispers: Like I said, respect your subjects. Don't treat them like toys to play with or something to cast aside later on. These are real people.*
- 10:11:36 pm: <Sertsim> Hello
- 10:11:55 pm: *Lauren hugs cow*
- 10:12:01 pm: <Bastion> Haro
- 10:12:07 pm: <obliviondoll> EGnu, there's a difference between BEING nervous and SHOWING that you're nervous.
- 10:12:15 pm: <obliviondoll> Hello Sertism.
- 10:12:15 pm: <SPalmer> I really enjoy group chat now
- 10:12:19 pm: *You whisper: No worries about that. I'm mainly nervous about my ability to induce a trance.*
- 10:12:33 pm: <EGnu62> fake it till you make it. stop being nervous and eventually you wont be.
- 10:12:36 pm: <Sertsim> Hello
- 10:12:40 pm: <Bastion> ^^
- 10:12:54 pm: <Erikaa> sorry guys im back. !
- 10:12:54 pm: <EGnu62> if you can stop showing it, you can stop being it
- 10:12:56 pm: [INFO] MrGoodbar has left.
- 10:13:11 pm: <SPalmer> Hi Erikka
- 10:13:16 pm: <obliviondoll> Welcome home, Erikaa. Good to see you again :)
- 10:13:19 pm: <Bastion> wb Erikaa
- 10:13:22 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> Hi Erikaa
- 10:13:23 pm: <HypnoticVoice> Why are you sorry about it, Erikaa?
- 10:13:41 pm: <EnchantingBear69> Well as a very extremely unfortunate event occurred last night you guys won't see me for 3 weeks as I'll be studying and retraining in hypnosis. Should I be gone longer you guys will be notified.
- 10:13:46 pm: *Anonymoususer2 whispers: And it's ok to be nervous. You might not know who they are or how receptive they are to text, but you can ask them questions and help you as the guider to get them to their destination.*
- 10:13:50 pm: <Erikaa> thanks everyone. ! and well i left a bit ago but i never said id brb and i think someone tried to talk to me while i was AFK.
- 10:14:11 pm: <obliviondoll> Nice to have advance warning on that, Bear. Hope to see you again soon.
- 10:14:11 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> wow
- 10:14:15 pm: *EGnu62 wishes EnchantingBear69 well.*
- 10:14:22 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> take care of yourself, EnchantingBear69
- 10:14:28 pm: <Bastion> What happened last night?
- 10:14:30 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> your mind and mental health comes first!
- 10:14:32 pm: <Bastion> Was it the group trance?
- 10:14:33 pm: *💤 takes off his hacker hat*
- 10:14:37 pm: <Bastion> Or the thing after it?
- 10:14:43 pm: <Bastion> =p
- 10:14:49 pm: <SPalmer> Monday night hypnotism and football
- 10:14:54 pm: <Bastion> Anyway, good luck with that
- 10:15:02 pm: <EnchantingBear69> I failed Bastion, and yes it was the group trance
- 10:15:08 pm: <Lauren> oh i almost forgot..
- 10:15:12 pm: <SPalmer> White or black hat
- 10:15:16 pm: <Lauren> 4Am club
- 10:15:23 pm: [INFO] lydia has left.
- 10:15:24 pm: <💤> White, SPalmer. Disclosing vulnerabilities.
- 10:15:24 pm: <ElysianTail> 6AM club
- 10:15:44 pm: <SPalmer> Good man
- 10:15:49 pm: <Bastion> SPalmer, I am legally obligated by a fancy piece of paper I signed to say White
- 10:15:55 pm: [INFO] tamedgator has joined.
- 10:16:08 pm: <EGnu62> you're online at 4am ?
- 10:16:10 pm: <obliviondoll> Welcome tamed.
- 10:16:11 pm: <EnchantingBear69> later guys
- 10:16:15 pm: <tamedgator> hi
- 10:16:23 pm: <obliviondoll> I'm almost always online at 4am, EGnu. Not seeing the problem.
- 10:16:29 pm: <EnchantingBear69> Hi/bye gator
- 10:16:31 pm: *Anonymoususer2 whispers: Don't think of yourself as the hypnotist, but a guide. Just let your subjects remember past feelings if they have any and let them hypnotize themselves.*
- 10:16:36 pm: <Kittykat> @Jon my recommendation to you is to read some inductions. You don't have to be tranced if you don't want to, but how can you be a good writer if you don't read any books? You have no way to gauge if you're any good at it.
- 10:16:38 pm: <obliviondoll> Being up this late (3pm) is a lot more rare for me.
- 10:16:46 pm: <Lauren> i woke up at 1am for no reason and i can't get back to sleep so..
- 10:16:51 pm: [INFO] EnchantingBear69 has left.
- 10:16:52 pm: <EGnu62> @obliviondoll actually I was thinking someone into hypnosis in the same timezone as me ..
- 10:17:02 pm: <Kittykat> the subject might not be able to give good constructive criticism
- 10:17:22 pm: <obliviondoll> I'm sure there are some, EGnu. Good luck catching them :D
- 10:17:30 pm: <Kittykat> don't start a text trance with "look into my eyes" if there are no eyes to see
- 10:17:35 pm: *Anonymoususer2 whispers: my text logs that I sent you are excellent examples, and I didn't even know who these people were.*
- 10:17:52 pm: <tamedgator> heh
- 10:18:02 pm: <Anonymoususer2> Also replace "listen" with "read".
- 10:18:04 pm: <Lauren> Or with look into the popcorn
- 10:18:10 pm: <Bastion> If it is text specificially, it is almost always a good idea to remind the subject to keep their eyes open
- 10:18:13 pm: <EGnu62> dont tell them to shut their eyes on a text trance either .. it really messes with the patter
- 10:18:16 pm: <Sertsim> @@ eyes
- 10:18:21 pm: <tamedgator> or "you can see my eyes in your mind"
- 10:18:27 pm: <obliviondoll> Yes, tamedgator, you've shown up while we're actually discussing hypnosis. It isn't always the case, but it does happen :D
- 10:18:53 pm: <JonSmisu> Kittykat: Don't worry. I'm not that cliched. :P
- 10:18:54 pm: <tamedgator> ?
- 10:19:00 pm: <SPalmer> I am lucky enough to have had the same system. For 17 years
- 10:19:20 pm: <SPalmer> subject not system
- 10:19:23 pm: <Bastion> Definitely don't tell someone to close their eyes. If you do that, I'll close them and won't be opening them again until I start coming up again
- 10:19:24 pm: <Anonymoususer2> I prefer to let them have heavy eyes if it helps them, but have them still able to see my words on the screen.
- 10:19:34 pm: <EGnu62> @spalmer married ? congratulations
- 10:19:45 pm: <Kittykat> something else I've noticed: like movies or telling a story, you have to be able to "suspend the subject's disbelief" for the duration of the text. If you screw up by saying something that would cause the subject to think (i.e. Look into my eyes when there's no eyes to see, or confusing grammar) the subject will start to wake up
- 10:19:58 pm: <JonSmisu> Okay.
- 10:20:06 pm: <Anonymoususer2> They don't have to have entirely focused eyes, as their subconscious can read for them.
- 10:20:14 pm: <Lauren> Yah thats a goid 1 kittu
- 10:20:18 pm: <Kittykat> You're the hypnotist. You think for the subject
- 10:20:31 pm: <EGnu62> @kittykat have you read trance formations? i think they spent 69 pages at the start of the book explaining that ..
- 10:20:34 pm: <SPalmer> Yeah I married her all inductions practiced om her and supports my love of hypnotism
- 10:20:36 pm: <Lauren> 420 club
- 10:20:41 pm: <Kittykat> no I haven't
- 10:20:46 pm: <JonSmisu> What if you did something visual? I.e. imagine this hypnotizing thing? Would that work?
- 10:20:59 pm: <Kittykat> I study storytelling
- 10:20:59 pm: <obliviondoll> It can for some people Jon, yes.
- 10:21:04 pm: <💤> Imagining things can work.
- 10:21:16 pm: <EGnu62> @jon depends on how well the persons to a visual description.
- 10:21:25 pm: <Bastion> Word choice is also important for this sort of thing
- 10:21:30 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> sorry - ducked away
- 10:21:35 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> I agree about the eyes
- 10:21:41 pm: <Anonymoususer2> I prefer my subjects just letting their eyes glaze over as their subconscious read the text, but whatever works.
- 10:21:48 pm: <Kittykat> you can tell them to imagine certain things. or feel certain things. but remember that it's not actually there for them. focus on good description
- 10:21:56 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> that being said - some text trances I've been on here have blinking as part - and that was really effective for me
- 10:22:01 pm: [INFO] KalCorrish has joined.
- 10:22:04 pm: <Kittykat> you can't just tell a subject that a cold room is now hot.
- 10:22:08 pm: <obliviondoll> Hello Kal
- 10:22:15 pm: <KalCorrish> Hello all.
- 10:22:18 pm: <Lauren> you is getting tired enit. man is tired, man gettin deeper n deeper. man is now a slave.
- 10:22:21 pm: <💤> hi Kal.
- 10:22:23 pm: <SPalmer> I have a subject I just started to work with she is into meditation and yoga so I used that training in my induction and it worked great
- 10:22:24 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> Like instructions to close eyes - count - and reopen - stuff like that
- 10:22:47 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> In text trances, that can really deepen - at least for me
- 10:22:48 pm: <💤> Yep SPalemr, use what they give you.
- 10:22:49 pm: <EGnu62> @jon my advice is to say "just imagine" and then give a visual, audible and feeling to it .. so a beach would maybe be "just imagine yourself on the beach, feel the sand under your feet and hear the gentle sound of waves". covers all the bases enriches the experience
- 10:23:04 pm: <Anonymoususer2> Breathing is a good exercise to have your subject do.
- 10:23:19 pm: <Bastion> Oh!
- 10:23:22 pm: <Lauren> "breathimg is good"
- 10:23:23 pm: <Bastion> Something that Coyote does
- 10:23:27 pm: <JonSmisu> /m scribbes notes
- 10:23:27 pm: [INFO] Command not recognized. Try /help for a list of commands.
- 10:23:28 pm: <Bastion> is called Square Breathing
- 10:23:32 pm: <Bastion> and it is amazing
- 10:23:36 pm: *JonSmisu scribbles notes*
- 10:23:37 pm: <SPalmer> has anyone tried 7 +or - 2 induction
- 10:23:38 pm: <💤> Square Breathing? I'm interested
- 10:23:38 pm: <Kittykat> like instead, take the subject to the beach. where it's warm. Focus on describing the warm breeze through your hair. the feel of hot sand between your toes. the smell of the ocean... etc
- 10:23:41 pm: <KalCorrish> Touch on basic, simple senses. Sight and sound are easy to imagine, and helps to increase the imagination.
- 10:23:47 pm: <💤> SPalmer I've read it, not tried it on either side though.
- 10:24:09 pm: <Anonymoususer2> Explain please Bastion, I've heard of it but never used its
- 10:24:13 pm: <KalCorrish> 7 +/- 2 works, but it is a tad advanced.
- 10:24:14 pm: <💤> JonSmisu is being inundated with advice. I'll withold adding to the avalanche since my advice comes from theory and not practice.
- 10:24:21 pm: <Bastion> Basically square breathing is as such:
- 10:24:23 pm: <Anonymoususer2> *it.
- 10:24:36 pm: <JonSmisu> How do you save this chat?! I really need this...
- 10:24:38 pm: <Kittykat> if you can completely immerse your subject somewhere, it makes it easier for them to visualize it
- 10:24:39 pm: *EGnu62 whispers: i cant recommend a book called "Trance Formations" by Bandler and Grinder highly enough. It teaches you why it works ..*
- 10:24:40 pm: <Bastion> Breath in for 4 seconds, hold it for 4 seconds, Breath out for 4 seconds
- 10:24:43 pm: <💤> copy & paste
- 10:24:46 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> anything that keeps the conscious mind busy - like visualizations - or breathing patterns that take concentration - can help with text trancing, I've found
- 10:24:53 pm: [INFO] Jessie has joined.
- 10:24:55 pm: <KalCorrish> ^
- 10:24:57 pm: <💤> hi Jessie
- 10:24:58 pm: <Jessie> hiya
- 10:25:01 pm: [INFO] !21 m Norcal has joined.
- 10:25:02 pm: <Jessie> anyone mis me
- 10:25:02 pm: <Anonymoususer2> Oh, now I remember it.
- 10:25:07 pm: <💤> hi Norcal
- 10:25:09 pm: <!21 m Norcal> Hiya !
- 10:25:15 pm: <Jessie> or does anyone need to talk to me or need my help atm?
- 10:25:15 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> to save - I just select all and copy/paste to notepad
- 10:25:16 pm: <💤> I was aware of your absence, Jessie
- 10:25:22 pm: <Jessie> hey i had work
- 10:25:25 pm: <obliviondoll> Hello Jessie and Norcal
- 10:25:29 pm: <Anonymoususer2> I usually just tell my subject to breathe in.
- 10:25:29 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> I can use your help in a little bit, Jessie
- 10:25:33 pm: *Jessie snuggles with doll*
- 10:25:33 pm: <Anonymoususer2> And out.
- 10:25:34 pm: <Lauren> Hey jessie :)
- 10:25:35 pm: <Kittykat> a lot of hypnotists fall back on the "feel a warmth/relaxation spreading from your toes to your head" induction. or a countdown
- 10:25:46 pm: <SleepySnake> I don't have a problem with those.
- 10:25:51 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> I do warmth/relaxation, then countdown
- 10:25:51 pm: <Anonymoususer2> And keep doing that as they enter trance as it gives their mind something to do.
- 10:25:54 pm: *obliviondoll blushes and snuggles Jessie back*
- 10:25:55 pm: <Bastion> Anomy, that is what is usually done
- 10:25:55 pm: <SPalmer> 7 +- is based on the idea the brain can only focus on 7 things at a time
- 10:26:04 pm: <Jessie> i do that myself only cause its how one meditates
- 10:26:08 pm: [INFO] !21 m Norcal has left.
- 10:26:17 pm: [INFO] KalCorrish has left.
- 10:26:17 pm: <EGnu62> "have you been hypnotised before. i wonder if that felt good? yes, thats right. sleep now" .. short. works. depends on subject
- 10:26:23 pm: <Anonymoususer2> I know I do kitty.
- 10:26:32 pm: <Anonymoususer2> Biut hey, it works.
- 10:26:38 pm: <Anonymoususer2> *but
- 10:27:05 pm: <Kittykat> it works, but works better in certain types of context
- 10:27:12 pm: <EGnu62> @spalmer if anyone is interested in 7+/-2 wiseguy covered in the last hypbook learning event. the chat log and recording is posted for download
- 10:27:15 pm: <Bastion> But I found Square Breathing version to hold my focus much more easily than the regular breathing exercises
- 10:27:23 pm: <Kittykat> gets tiring if I want to trance while I'm awake
- 10:27:25 pm: <Anonymoususer2> I make it kind of slow and expand the details.
- 10:27:34 pm: <Kittykat> that's better
- 10:27:37 pm: <SleepySnake> What's square breathing?
- 10:27:38 pm: <💤> Someone tell me to step away from my computer and do some chores.
- 10:27:52 pm: <Anonymoususer2> With brackets?
- 10:27:54 pm: <JonSmisu> Step away from your computer and do some chores.
- 10:27:57 pm: <SleepySnake> get the fuck away from the computer and get shit done!
- 10:27:59 pm: <Kittykat> zzz, you're a maid now. go clean
- 10:28:03 pm: <Bastion> @SleepySnake: 8:25:00 pm: <Bastion> Breath in for 4 seconds, hold it for 4 seconds, Breath out for 4 seconds
- 10:28:05 pm: <💤> Thanks guys.
- 10:28:05 pm: <Lauren> get me some popcorn zzz
- 10:28:06 pm: <SPalmer> Go Do chores
- 10:28:09 pm: <tamedgator> inraptured mostly.
- 10:28:32 pm: [INFO] Coyote_Ex_Django has joined.
- 10:28:42 pm: <Coyote_Ex_Django> Howdy, everyone
- 10:28:43 pm: <Kittykat> :D
- 10:28:44 pm: <JonSmisu> Ugh...if it wasn't so blasted late, I'd ask if anyone would volunteer for this.
- 10:28:45 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> One thing that works for me is - start with a normal trance - give a trigger that deepens trance - bring me out - then retrigger me deeper, etc.
- 10:28:45 pm: <Kittykat> howdy
- 10:28:46 pm: <Bastion> Speak of the Devil and he shall apear
- 10:28:49 pm: <ElysianTail> You just watched Django Unchained, I take it...
- 10:28:49 pm: <Bastion> Haro Coyote!
- 10:28:52 pm: <Erikaa> hey Coyote!
- 10:28:56 pm: <SleepySnake> I figure i couldn't do square breathing. Would put too much concentration on the counting for the breathing instead of paying attention tot he Tist.
- 10:29:04 pm: <Anonymoususer2> Like I said, you should read a lot of trance logs or scripts (Like mine!) to get a good construction of the trance ideal.
- 10:29:06 pm: <EGnu62> @weaselbotrobo - 'fractionation'
- 10:29:14 pm: <JonSmisu> Robo: that fractionination thing right? I got asked to do that...
- 10:29:17 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> Yes
- 10:29:22 pm: <Coyote_Ex_Django> Little tipsy, very tired, and no, Django is a hypnotist in One Piece
- 10:29:30 pm: <Kittykat> @SleepySnake: That's the point
- 10:29:36 pm: <Coyote_Ex_Django> Also, One piece has 'pie' in it
- 10:29:40 pm: <obliviondoll> Hi C-Diddy
- 10:29:46 pm: <ElysianTail> Ah, well... I'll brb. Need to pick up some water.
- 10:29:46 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> the main thing - I get feedback when I do it
- 10:29:51 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> like on a scale of 1 to 10
- 10:29:52 pm: <Coyote_Ex_Django> Oh, who is talking about square breathing?
- 10:29:53 pm: <SleepySnake> ...I thought the point of hynposis was to have all focus on what the tist is saying?
- 10:29:54 pm: <Anonymoususer2> It's to distract you from your tides words.
- 10:29:56 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> then try different things if it isn't working
- 10:29:57 pm: <Coyote_Ex_Django> Thats one of my favorite things
- 10:30:01 pm: [INFO] ElysianTail has left.
- 10:30:04 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> open communication, etc
- 10:30:08 pm: <Anonymoususer2> *tists
- 10:30:12 pm: <Kittykat> Stop trying to consciously paying attention to the tist, and let your subconscious do it for you
- 10:30:16 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> right- that
- 10:30:23 pm: <SleepySnake> I don't see that working.
- 10:30:23 pm: <EGnu62> so heres a thing then .. the concept of 'depth'. is that what you meant by 1 to 10 ?
- 10:30:33 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> sure
- 10:30:34 pm: <SPalmer> Yeah change it up confusion induction I love em
- 10:30:35 pm: <Coyote_Ex_Django> And were ya'll talkin bout me?
- 10:30:37 pm: <Anonymoususer2> Also constantly ask questions to your subject.
- 10:30:48 pm: <Kittykat> let your conscious mind focus on your breathing.
- 10:30:49 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> NLP is something that sometimes works for me - but I can never do those inductions
- 10:30:54 pm: *JonSmisu begins rubbing forehead*
- 10:31:01 pm: [INFO] TheGrasshopper35 has joined.
- 10:31:02 pm: <Sertsim> If I was in a trance, the last thing I want to do it keep typing
- 10:31:05 pm: <Anonymoususer2> It keeps them focused enough without being distracted and helps you gauge the level of trance they're at.
- 10:31:19 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> you just suggest that they can type easliy while being in trance, etc.
- 10:31:20 pm: <obliviondoll> Hi Grasshopper.
- 10:31:20 pm: <Kittykat> I trance better when I interact with the tist
- 10:31:21 pm: <SleepySnake> Well...if someone wants to prove to me that square breathing works in hypnosis assistance, I'm ready and willing.
- 10:31:36 pm: <JonSmisu> I'm doing this tomorrow, by the way.
- 10:31:40 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> O_o
- 10:31:42 pm: [INFO] TheGiraffe has joined.
- 10:31:45 pm: <Anonymoususer2> No problem.
- 10:31:46 pm: <JonSmisu> Yah.
- 10:31:47 pm: <Coyote_Ex_Django> I would totally, snake, but again, tipsy and tired
- 10:31:53 pm: <Coyote_Ex_Django> Square breathing is my jam
- 10:32:00 pm: <obliviondoll> Good morning Giraffe :D
- 10:32:07 pm: <SleepySnake> another day I guess...
- 10:32:11 pm: <TheGiraffe> not here it's not :P
- 10:32:14 pm: <Anonymoususer2> How many years have you been studying "The Way of a The Hypno Fist"?
- 10:32:22 pm: <Coyote_Ex_Django> But seriously, were ya'll talking about me? As soon as I logged on ya'll said "speak of the devil"
- 10:32:22 pm: <EGnu62> @coyote does 4 seconds work better than 3 for the gradual hypoxia it causes ?
- 10:32:27 pm: <obliviondoll> It's not morning here either, but it's always morning somewhere :P
- 10:32:30 pm: <JonSmisu> I got a private thing sparked with someone who I thought could help me figure out if I was part of an RP or not, and one thing led to another...
- 10:32:31 pm: <Kittykat> @SleepySnake you should just try it
- 10:32:36 pm: <Bastion> And then you, too, Snake, can join the Scubaclub =p
- 10:32:40 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> Kind of like "long time subject, first time tister for me"
- 10:32:45 pm: <obliviondoll> Coyote, you were mentioned when square breathing came up.
- 10:32:54 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> I just use the lines that work for me - and keep it very simple
- 10:32:54 pm: <TheGiraffe> hahahaha
- 10:32:56 pm: <Anonymoususer2> So is that a no on personal experience with hypnosi?
- 10:32:58 pm: <Coyote_Ex_Django> EGnu62 I like 4 seconds, and I have never had a problem using it, despite my asthma
- 10:33:05 pm: <Anonymoususer2> Fucking phone.
- 10:33:10 pm: <SleepySnake> well how can I test it without a tist, Kittykat?
- 10:33:26 pm: <Kittykat> mp3 files
- 10:33:27 pm: <Coyote_Ex_Django> I can't say whether or not it works for me, because no one has ever used it to tize me
- 10:33:28 pm: <obliviondoll> You can try it with meditation, Snake.
- 10:33:35 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> and - also - since I was on Yahoo IM - I add a lot of you will wake safely if we get disconnected
- 10:33:51 pm: <MsWebb> Self hypnosis is the best.
- 10:33:51 pm: <Bastion> If you're worried about not getting enough air then breath with your diaphram
- 10:33:51 pm: *You whisper: ...Kinda sorta? I asked if they could help me figure out if I wa part of an RP, or if actual hypnosis took place...*
- 10:33:52 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> 'cause the very first time I tried - that happened
- 10:33:55 pm: <Coyote_Ex_Django> And whenever I start to go down, it is hard for me to concentrate on anything that I'm not told to concentrate on, breathing included
- 10:33:58 pm: <EGnu62> thats the reason i control breathing .. to achieve mild hypoxia. good for orgasm (many people hold breathe while they cum) and altering mental state
- 10:34:05 pm: <SleepySnake> I wish I could self hypnotize.
- 10:34:16 pm: <💤> SleepySnake you can
- 10:34:18 pm: <Anonymoususer2> I really got my start on being a tist after finding this site actually.
- 10:34:24 pm: <Coyote_Ex_Django> Same here, anon
- 10:34:30 pm: <obliviondoll> Not everyone can, Zzz.
- 10:34:40 pm: <SleepySnake> The way I see it, if you don't have a Tist to guide you you're just meditating.
- 10:34:49 pm: <Anonymoususer2> Someone asked if they could be tranced and I decided to give it whirl.
- 10:34:50 pm: <obliviondoll> I meditate, but I can't do self hypnosis because I don't trust myself in that way.
- 10:34:50 pm: <Bastion> (Or however that is spelled)
- 10:34:54 pm: <Jessie> jey kittykat can i pet you
- 10:34:54 pm: <Coyote_Ex_Django> I had no real interest in tisting at all, and then someone bothered me until I tried it, and I fell in love with being a switch
- 10:34:56 pm: <Jessie> hry
- 10:34:58 pm: <💤> SleepySnake have you tried self-recordings?
- 10:35:00 pm: <Jessie> hey
- 10:35:02 pm: <Kittykat> sure
- 10:35:05 pm: <Jessie> (there we go)
- 10:35:09 pm: *Jessie pets kittykat*
- 10:35:09 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> Hi Jessie
- 10:35:17 pm: <Kittykat> :3
- 10:35:23 pm: <SleepySnake> Self recordings? No...and I don't really want to. Something just...bothers me about hearing my voice.
- 10:35:24 pm: <Jessie> so you said you need help with something weasel?
- 10:35:34 pm: <Coyote_Ex_Django> Wow, this is hard to keep up with
- 10:35:35 pm: <Anonymoususer2> Before this site I got my fix from listening to various hypnosis mp3s over the years.
- 10:35:37 pm: <WeaselBotRobo> Not quite yet - but definitely
- 10:35:37 pm: <💤> Same here SleepySnake but I've heard for a lot of people it works well
- 10:35:44 pm: <Coyote_Ex_Django> Anon, me too
- 10:35:53 pm: <Coyote_Ex_Django> That, and smut. lots and lots of smut
- 10:35:55 pm: [INFO] TheGrasshopper35 has left.
- 10:35:55 pm: <SPalmer> driving home I'll be back
- 10:36:00 pm: [INFO] TiredPug57 has joined.
- 10:36:05 pm: [INFO] SPalmer has left.
- 10:36:05 pm: <💤> hi Pug.
- 10:36:09 pm: <EGnu62> @sleepysnake its interesting. hearing your own voice giving yourself suggestions. you might find it shortcuts any resitance because you made it, approved it and you're saying it.
- 10:36:12 pm: <Anonymoususer2> So I already had a general idea in my head of what trance looked like and how I could get someone there.
- 10:36:18 pm: <Coyote_Ex_Django> I use 'self hypnosis' a TON at work to calm me down and help me focus
- 10:36:32 pm: <SleepySnake> I just feel vaguely uncomfortable with the concept and I don't know why.
- 10:36:33 pm: <Bastion> Most people have a problem with hearing recordings of their own voice
- 10:36:39 pm: <Bastion> It is something that you get used to with exposure
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