logjam's mids

ABANDONCULTURE: NOW TELL ME ABOUT LOGJAM HOW'S YOUR TENTH ATTEMPT AT A MID
ABANDONCULTURE: (i kid)
ABANDONCULTURE: tfw can never make a 5cp map
ABANDONCULTURE: might give it another try for matchmaking though
Hyce: lol
Hyce: my tenth mid for logjam.
Hyce: I wonder what attempt at mid it actually is.
Hyce: as far as major reworks
ABANDONCULTURE: heh
Hyce: might be the 4th or 5th
ABANDONCULTURE: well you made less major changes than the guy who made viaduct
Hyce: lol
Hyce: well here's A2 mid, from when it was still uintah. http://i.imgur.com/FmXT4Vkh.jpg
ABANDONCULTURE: nice boxout
Hyce: lol
ABANDONCULTURE: i remember on gulge i was like "nah i'm not changing anything" and basically scrapped the map
Hyce: hmmm, here's A5 http://i.imgur.com/LmnTwMG.jpg
Hyce: that
Hyce: so that's 2 so far
ABANDONCULTURE: nice logs
Hyce: yup
Hyce: that was the point of the map
Hyce: not sure if this counts as a major change
Hyce: http://i.imgur.com/wiPDgqJ.jpg
Hyce: but that's A6
ABANDONCULTURE: (it does)
Hyce: lol
Hyce: so that's 3
Hyce: lmao
Hyce: oh yeah. this one
Hyce: http://i.imgur.com/hrIZpi5.jpg
Hyce: A7 makes 4
ABANDONCULTURE: heh
ABANDONCULTURE: LOOKS LIKE OBSCURE CUZ IT HAS A FLOATING THING
ABANDONCULTURE: obscure is what happens when map design through bikeshedding
Hyce: lol
Hyce: here's cp_LOGJAM_a9.... for 5 http://i.imgur.com/bxb5ouV.jpg
ABANDONCULTURE: that looks interesting
Hyce: it was crap
ABANDONCULTURE: nice
Hyce: here's a10: http://i.imgur.com/zLlHMuX.jpg
Hyce: for 6
ABANDONCULTURE: damn the barrier's gone
Hyce: a10 was when I seriously started working on the map big time
Hyce: a12, for 7 http://i.imgur.com/NIOs6Gg.jpg
Hyce: starting to look more like what it became
ABANDONCULTURE: indeed
Hyce: a13... http://i.imgur.com/lu1vqXJ.jpg
Hyce: houses got shorter and got a hole in them... is that a big enough change?
ABANDONCULTURE: nope
Hyce: so still at 7 mids...
Hyce: http://i.imgur.com/JTCxk8z.jpg
Hyce: a14, for 8 mids... changed the way cave came out on mid
Hyce: lmao pride rock
Hyce: http://i.imgur.com/iOfoSuC.jpg
ABANDONCULTURE: lol
Hyce: A16 adds the upper exit from logroom onto mid: http://i.imgur.com/Jg6BIcG.jpg
Hyce: for 9 mids
ABANDONCULTURE: and this still looks old
ABANDONCULTURE: oh boy
Hyce: lol
Hyce: a17, corners change shape and forwards gets bigger...
Hyce: is that big enough?
ABANDONCULTURE: idk
ABANDONCULTURE: probably not
Hyce: http://i.imgur.com/zhdX74F.jpg
Hyce: keep it at 9 I guess
Hyce: beta 1 had the same mid as a17...
Hyce: so, 9 mids through alpha
ABANDONCULTURE: Good pace
Hyce: here's b2, aka "VIADUCT MID"
Hyce: http://i.imgur.com/pFPummM.jpg
Hyce: so 10 mids since start, 2 total beta mids
ABANDONCULTURE: VIADUCT
Hyce: lol rock arch
Hyce: http://i.imgur.com/ORPAGsH.jpg
ABANDONCULTURE: lol
Hyce: lmao rock arch
Hyce: http://i.imgur.com/n9a4CV4.jpg
ABANDONCULTURE: kek
Hyce: b6... for 11 mids, 3 total beta mids
Hyce: b7... weird platforms... http://i.imgur.com/pS3qKqi.jpg
Hyce: 12 mids, 4 beta mids
Hyce: and new ramps
Hyce: more modified ramps and forwards move to where they are now in b8, http://i.imgur.com/zvdNxJ2.jpg
Hyce: 13 mids, 5 beta mids
Hyce: "Mid is really in dire need of something changing, it's so open and wide that all you get is 30 seconds of people just eyeing each other, there are very few ways for a roamer to jump without being clearly seen. Most other maps have blind spots/cover to jump from behind, creating a good amount of space for the team as they can jump in without being immediately called. This mid offers none of that."
Hyce: -WARHURYEAH
Hyce: says that after 13 different mids total
Hyce: lol
ABANDONCULTURE: lol
Hyce: and then this
Hyce: "Make a new mid or it's going to be difficult for people to play it this season. If you don't it might lose a lot of popularity and may not be considered in future seasons. The ETF2L map pool is pretty shitty and unstable."
Hyce: FORESHADOWING....
ABANDONCULTURE: lol
Hyce: b10, THE BRIDGE MID
Hyce: http://i.imgur.com/zUnhcvc.jpg
Hyce: obscureobscureobscure
ABANDONCULTURE: its obscyur
Hyce: so that makes 14 total mids, with 6 total beta mids
Hyce: admirable calls me out on it... "Obscure mid :D"
ABANDONCULTURE: lol
Hyce: beta 11, the side corridors arrive
Hyce: http://i.imgur.com/8bawgyY.jpg
Hyce: 15 mids, 7 total beta mids
Hyce: I post this... "Detailing progress so far, b12 (maybe RC1?!?!?!?) should be out by January."
Hyce: hah
Hyce: hah
Hyce: hah
Hyce: hah
ABANDONCULTURE: hah
Hyce: b18pre1 didn't get officially released... but it was the infamous "truss bridge mid"
Hyce: aka "OMG A SCOUT ATE MY DICK"
ABANDONCULTURE: lol
Hyce: so 16 mids, 8 beta mids...
Hyce: b18, humped bridge, rocks with ramps... http://i.imgur.com/EhJrTzn.jpg
ABANDONCULTURE: lol
Hyce: b20pre1, the rock bridge comes in... this pic is from pre 2 though and is slightly different as pre1 didn't get released
Hyce: http://i.imgur.com/wPOjTTp.jpg
Hyce: 17 mids. 9 beta mids.
Hyce: at this point there have been 9 alpha mids and 9 beta mids... the last alpha mid was the same as the first beta, hence why the total is only 17
ABANDONCULTURE: rock mid starts to look like not shit
Hyce: and we arrive at b20pre3, and I've added an addition to logroom and modified the bridge a bit... for
Hyce: 18 total different mids
Hyce: 9 total alpha mids
Hyce: 10 total beta mids
Hyce: so you are really fucking good at guessing
Hyce: because yes
Hyce: the tenth mid for beta logjam is going well
ABANDONCULTURE: lol
Hyce: this is going in a pastebin
Hyce: and is going in the thread
ABANDONCULTURE: aye aye