an interesting thing

07:49	Roget	I have a chance of eclipsing smapti
07:49	Roget	If I ever run a contest, I would consult you on how to make it more fair
07:49	Annalea	shoulda put all the entries into a category, locked voting
07:49	Annalea	waited until all entries were in
07:49	Kens|Labwork	Something like that yeah
07:49	Tuomey	But it'd be a fairer contest if we had to, I dunno, hold a thing on a sandbox and only post them at x time or lock votes or whatever
07:49	Annalea	then reveal them in random order
07:49	Roget	Hmmm
07:50	Roget	that would be cool
07:50	Roget	I would support that for the 2000 contest
07:50	Roget	everything in the category 2000contest or summat
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07:50	Annalea	also, contestants really should not have their votes count in the contest listing
07:50	Annalea	i mean
07:50	Annalea	if they want to vote on stuff for the sake of voting on a tale/scp, sure
07:50	Tuomey	Kens|Labwork: new brakes, new rotors, did you break a helicopter?
07:50	Annalea	but I'd have Nala filter those votes out
07:50	Annalea	it's only fair
07:50	Roget	can you filter out individual votes?
07:51	Annalea	Yep.
07:51	Annalea	I do it to calculate contributor ratings.
07:51	Roget	neat
07:51	Kens|Labwork	Tuomey: My car is nearing 7 years old. It's getting close to the time to replace the brake pads, and my front rotors aren't looking so good.
07:51	Roget	how much code does that take?
07:51	Annalea	I filter out account deletes
07:51	Roget	Like, how does it work?
07:51	Tuomey	Kens|Labwork: replace it with a helicopter
07:51	Kens|Labwork	no fuck u
07:51	Annalea	Before I parse the list of vote data
07:51	Tuomey	:/
07:51	Annalea	I cycle through all pages
07:51	Annalea	and add anyone who's written something to a Set<String>
07:52	Annalea	then i loop through votes
07:52	Tuomey	Kens don't make me play a card
07:52	Annalea	if (contributors.contains(voter)) { applyVote(); }
07:52	Tuomey	I will play a card
07:52	Annalea	otherwise ignore vote
07:52	Kens|Labwork	u r a card
07:52	Roget	cool!
07:52	Tuomey	ok
07:52	Roget	that's interesting
07:52	Tuomey	I am playing the card kens
07:52	Roget	what language is nala written in?
07:52	Annalea	it's an easy copy-and-paste to apply that to contestants rather than voters
07:52	Annalea	Java
07:52	Roget	coooool
07:52	Tuomey	I CAN'T EVEN DROVE BECOS IF EPLIPESY KENS
07:53	Kens|Labwork	...
07:53		Tuomey played the card
07:53	Annalea	same deal with staff ratings
07:53	Kens|Labwork	/mode +b Tuomey
07:53	Annalea	Nala has a list of who is or isn't staff
07:53	Tuomey	:P
07:53	Annalea	and can use that to calc a rating based on staff only votes
07:53	Annalea	nala also categorizes tags by their type
07:53	Roget	How hard is that to do? Do you need like, the wikidot api
07:53	Annalea	so can make informed statistics based on main vs attribute vs group/goi tags
07:54	Annalea	well, let's see
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07:55	Annalea	there's three components to Nala
07:55	Annalea	the core chat bat running on Pircbot
07:55	Annalea	the basic statistics and lookup module that's using the Wikidot API
07:55	Annalea	and an advanced/manual statistics module that's built on top of the basic module
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07:55	Annalea	Nala as a chatbot only runs the first two components
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07:56	Annalea	the third one is on my console here
07:56	Annalea	as for line count...
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07:58	Severe	Good afternoon all!
07:59	Annalea	mrrr
07:59	Annalea	i can't get an aggregate line count
07:59	Annalea	but just the core classes without the support code
07:59	Severe	Did you try unplugging it and plugging it back in?
08:00	Annalea	we're looking at 2600 lines for Nala
08:00	Tuomey	wow
08:00	Annalea	1600 for SCPWikiConnector
08:00	Annalea	and 2100 for SCPWikiStatisticsConnector
08:00	Annalea	this doesn't include helper classes, data objects, or utility classes
08:00	Tuomey	I'm pretty sure that is more lines than I have written total
08:00	Annalea	all in all, maybe around 10,000 lines
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08:01	Annalea	Tuomey: the product I work on at work has a hair under 1,100,000 lines
08:01	Tuomey	0_0
08:01	Annalea	neither count includes 3rd party libraries
08:01	Tuomey	maaaan
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08:01	Annalea	compiled into a JAR file, Nala is 165kb
08:01	Tuomey	and I here I was, feeling good about getting everything right on my shitty java applet test
08:01	Silber	Howdy
08:02	Annalea	and has about...
08:02	Annalea	~300kb in external libraries
08:02	Annalea	she's actually rather small :P
08:02	Annalea	fits onto a floppy
08:02	Annalea	by comparison
08:02	Annalea	Project Foundation is 616kb without including any dependencies
08:03	Annalea	and probably around ~20mb with external libraries
08:03	Annalea	and that's not counting any data
08:03	Annalea	we're looking at maybe... 5mb for the core content without a single user-contributed page
08:03	Annalea	and, according to the last pull
08:04	Annalea	the wiki currently consists of 466 mb of data, images, comments, and votes
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08:04	Annalea	across all SCPs, Tales, Guides, and Essays
08:04	Blaroth	That's kind of surprising
08:04	Annalea	oh, Nala does keep about 1mb worth of data too
08:05	Annalea	user overrides, last-activity timers, memoes
08:05	Annalea	she does not do full logging, only the last line said
08:05	Annalea	i think there are people who would flip out if she did :I
08:05	Tuomey	meh
08:05	Tuomey	fuck 'em anyway
08:05	Silber	eh, plenty of people log
08:05	Tuomey	A few people log everything in their chat clients
08:06	Tuomey	Annalea: man, remember rikks
08:06	Annalea	?
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08:06	Tuomey	the guy who freaked out about possibly-bi james bond and glass dildos
08:07	Tuomey	that was fucking hilarious
08:07	TheRaven	...wat
08:07	Annalea	oh lourd, that
08:08	Annalea	lemme find the log
08:08	Tuomey	he did get annoyed at me in the snippets thread
08:08	Annalea	yes, yes he did
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08:09	Annalea	man, i can't find it
08:09	Tuomey	One sec
08:09	Waterfire	Hello once again.
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08:10	Tuomey	got it http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-612386#post-1725488
08:11	Annalea	Teehee.
08:12	TheRaven	That log is amazing.
08:12	Blaroth	we have a chat snippit section...
08:12	Blaroth	oh my god
08:13	Blaroth	why did no one tell me
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08:13	Tuomey	you didn't know?
08:14	FlameShirt	nope
08:14	FlameShirt	(What are we talking about?)