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  1. [2011-12-30 00:00:25] <Ironybot> For now. But we're not counting them that way at the moment.
  2. [2011-12-30 00:00:37] <Guile> we could be
  3. [2011-12-30 00:00:50] <Guile> Im kinda split on that issue
  4. [2011-12-30 00:00:51] <Ironybot> Concerns of secrecy were raised and I think I agree with them.
  5. [2011-12-30 00:01:00] <Guile> Hummingbird is NOT subtle
  6. [2011-12-30 00:01:15] <NaiveOne> in D&D: Armas: Bard with combat skills, SB: Illusionist/Conjuration Wizard, Sake: Evocation/Cleric, Hummingbird: WARRIOR KING!
  7. [2011-12-30 00:01:21] <Bob> 4but who else can hear the guy's proclamations?
  8. [2011-12-30 00:01:25] <Bob> 4other than Silja
  9. [2011-12-30 00:01:31] <Bob> 4who thinks him adorably precious and fluffy
  10. [2011-12-30 00:01:35] <Gunpowder_Symphony> GET THE BIRD A TELEGRAPH
  11. [2011-12-30 00:01:38] <Bob> 4which infuriates him
  12. [2011-12-30 00:01:58] <BUTTZ> We could have a charm made for him
  13. [2011-12-30 00:02:15] <Bob> 4like, if you could bottle the rage generated by her cooing over him, you could brew up a low grade Rage Fragment in like... a week or two
  14. [2011-12-30 00:02:18] <Bob> 4like
  15. [2011-12-30 00:02:20] <Bob> 4like
  16. [2011-12-30 00:02:26] <Bob> 4I'mma valley girl y'all
  17. [2011-12-30 00:02:34] <BUTTZ> So you're saying we should let the hummingbird perch on that hate-gun?
  18. [2011-12-30 00:02:39] <BUTTZ> And then let Silja talk to him?
  19. [2011-12-30 00:02:42] <Ironybot> Rage is not hate.
  20. [2011-12-30 00:02:47] <Bob> 4No it is not
  21. [2011-12-30 00:02:59] <Bob> 4if you HAD a rage fueled device though
  22. [2011-12-30 00:03:04] <Bob> 4and had the bird sit on it
  23. [2011-12-30 00:03:19] <Bob> 4while subjecting it to many people gushing over how cute and dainty etc it is
  24. [2011-12-30 00:03:20] <BUTTZ> I suppose it would be worth learning how to bottle rage then
  25. [2011-12-30 00:03:22] <Bob> 4then yes, yes you could
  26. [2011-12-30 00:03:30] <Guile> rage fueled hummingbird feeder
  27. [2011-12-30 00:03:30] <Gunpowder_Symphony> ...TO THE WORKSHOP!
  28. [2011-12-30 00:03:34] <Guile> filled the redbull
  29. [2011-12-30 00:03:35] * Gunpowder_Symphony dashes off to make SCIENCE
  30. [2011-12-30 00:03:41] <BUTTZ> That and the pain memory trade could be really lucrative
  31. [2011-12-30 00:03:46] <Ironybot> Back to focusing, guys.
  32. [2011-12-30 00:03:58] <Guile> like herding cats
  33. [2011-12-30 00:04:19] <Gunpowder_Symphony> ...Make a hate-fueled weapon to defend the mansion...and wire Amen into it.
  34. [2011-12-30 00:04:24] <Ironybot> We can probably call Hillevi tier 7. If nothing else, no one will be showing up to prove us wrong.
  35. [2011-12-30 00:04:31] <BUTTZ> Amen IS a hate-fueled weapon
  36. [2011-12-30 00:04:45] <BUTTZ> And his sole duty when we're not around is to defend the mansion
  37. [2011-12-30 00:04:46] * Bob 4smacks Gun on the nose-it's time to make people pay you money-worry about what to do with it AFTER you have their money
  38. [2011-12-30 00:04:52] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Yes, but I want to use him to fire a giant hate-cannon at things.
  39. [2011-12-30 00:04:56] <Gunpowder_Symphony> ...Ack.
  40. [2011-12-30 00:05:03] <Ironybot> Listen to the GM's wisdom on this one, please.
  41. [2011-12-30 00:05:22] <NaiveOne> ... wait, since when do we listen to good ideas?
  42. [2011-12-30 00:05:32] <Divine_Will> no naive. no.
  43. [2011-12-30 00:05:55] <Divine_Will> so, any ideas on what to charge?
  44. [2011-12-30 00:05:57] <NaiveOne> I demand Gun be oficially promoted to Id
  45. [2011-12-30 00:06:04] <BUTTZ> Hillevi's a tier-6, same as anyone else over a tier-5
  46. [2011-12-30 00:06:19] <BUTTZ> When we have enough agents that are Tier-6 then we can worry about differentiating between them
  47. [2011-12-30 00:06:32] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Fine, shelving the Intercontinental Ballistic Malice for the time being.
  48. [2011-12-30 00:06:55] <Ironybot> I suppose, but she is still way more powerful and trained in her powers than Armas, even with his Armas-team.
  49. [2011-12-30 00:07:21] <BUTTZ> That's true, but on the flip side she still needs supervision
  50. [2011-12-30 00:07:35] <Ironybot> So. 10k per Russian/T3, 200k for Camella/T5, 500k for Armas-team and Hillevi/T6?
  51. [2011-12-30 00:07:38] <Guile> not on this job
  52. [2011-12-30 00:07:39] <NaiveOne> if we convinced Einrik to join in, is that subcontrating, or mercenary hiring by the mercenaries?
  53. [2011-12-30 00:07:43] <Ironybot> Or is that too crazy?
  54. [2011-12-30 00:07:50] <Bob> 4She's a Tier 6 that cannot command, and so needs a tier 4 or better around to lead-as an example of how to finagle Hillevi
  55. [2011-12-30 00:08:01] <BUTTZ> That's what I am saying Bob
  56. [2011-12-30 00:08:33] <Guile> Not at all, irony. Remember Lo Fang offered us 3mil. Out-of-country and complicated job, but 1 mil for the Armas-team isnt crazy
  57. [2011-12-30 00:08:41] <Guile> for a local gig
  58. [2011-12-30 00:08:49] <BUTTZ> With little intel
  59. [2011-12-30 00:08:50] <Bob> 4The problem I see
  60. [2011-12-30 00:09:12] <Bob> 4is who is going to believe you have THAT much heat on your side? You haven't plied it much in Istanbul, not on the level you are offering
  61. [2011-12-30 00:09:18] <Bob> 4The Triads know a goodly bit
  62. [2011-12-30 00:09:22] <Bob> 4but what does Rocco know?
  63. [2011-12-30 00:09:26] <Ironybot> Yes, I agree- Rocco will have no proof that we can deploy it.
  64. [2011-12-30 00:09:28] <Guile> true. this is kind of our audition with Rocco
  65. [2011-12-30 00:09:44] <NaiveOne> Overkill: its own form of advertising.
  66. [2011-12-30 00:09:46] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Basic/Intermediate/Expert/Superior/Supreme/Ultimate for package grades.
  67. [2011-12-30 00:09:46] <Bob> 4Just because his wallet's as big as possible doesn't mean he'll believe you can offer what you're trying to get paid for.
  68. [2011-12-30 00:09:48] <Ironybot> Our audition with Rocco was the initial job with the Russians, where we proved that we were competent and reliable- at that power level.
  69. [2011-12-30 00:10:15] <BUTTZ> On the flip side we've always come through before, and Rocco's aware of the sort of shit we got into with Savoy
  70. [2011-12-30 00:10:21] <NaiveOne> alright, all in favor of making the building gone forever as an example?
  71. [2011-12-30 00:10:26] <BUTTZ> You need to be good to survive a fight with a Thumb
  72. [2011-12-30 00:10:33] <Bob> 4Now is the 'impress me' part of the audition-and idyllically, you could have done some higher importance jobs in between to have more trust
  73. [2011-12-30 00:10:48] <Bob> 4then again, you should be happy they still don't really know what all was up with the Castelleti event
  74. [2011-12-30 00:10:52] <Bob> 4so I'd say you're doing okay.
  75. [2011-12-30 00:11:13] <BUTTZ> Man the way Savoy painted it I'M still not really sure what was up with all of that
  76. [2011-12-30 00:11:32] <BUTTZ> "Lol I manipulated you!" "What?" "I did!" *Armas shoots him in the dick*
  77. [2011-12-30 00:11:42] <Guile> how do we sell Camella? The 20 ghouls with axes in their faces might be known
  78. [2011-12-30 00:12:10] <Gunpowder_Symphony> >point at Camella
  79. [2011-12-30 00:12:18] <Ironybot> She sent Blackbeard running when commanding a team of mundanes going after him, for one thing.
  80. [2011-12-30 00:12:30] <Ironybot> At least, if I understand the situation correctly that's what happened.
  81. [2011-12-30 00:12:37] <Gunpowder_Symphony> >"When things go bump in the night, she bumps back."
  82. [2011-12-30 00:12:41] <Ironybot> And none of her team died.
  83. [2011-12-30 00:12:51] <BUTTZ> She did that while fighting something or another that she'd pissed off the last time she was in the sewers
  84. [2011-12-30 00:13:37] <Bob> 4A thing that arguably has a shot of deading Armas
  85. [2011-12-30 00:13:55] <Ironybot> A lot of things arguably have a shot at deading Armas.
  86. [2011-12-30 00:13:58] <Bob> 4and she treated it like a side dish thanks to 'fuck your shit I'm not rolling below 90 for ten rolls'
  87. [2011-12-30 00:14:13] <Conil> ...She litterally didn't?
  88. [2011-12-30 00:14:22] <Bob> 4That was literal, yes
  89. [2011-12-30 00:14:26] <Conil> Holy shit.
  90. [2011-12-30 00:14:39] <Ironybot> Them luck Traits ain't just for show.
  91. [2011-12-30 00:14:51] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Camella must be an avatar of The Lady.
  92. [2011-12-30 00:15:05] <Bob> 4Luck Traits are level for level the most powerful Traits
  93. [2011-12-30 00:15:12] <Bob> 4no real disputing that
  94. [2011-12-30 00:15:35] <NaiveOne> so thats what Camella does? luck?
  95. [2011-12-30 00:15:50] <Divine_Will> basically
  96. [2011-12-30 00:15:54] <Guile> she does other things
  97. [2011-12-30 00:16:12] <Guile> like bulldog tenacity
  98. [2011-12-30 00:16:37] <BUTTZ> Gianni is the mafia practicioner from the last mission?
  99. [2011-12-30 00:16:43] <NaiveOne> bah, if I was a PC!
  100. [2011-12-30 00:16:45] <Bob> 4That is correct
  101. [2011-12-30 00:17:11] <BUTTZ> I suppose Rocco is going to go on this mission too
  102. [2011-12-30 00:17:13] <Guile> And chopping through a superhuman security team with an axe she happened to find
  103. [2011-12-30 00:17:22] <Guile> Rocco, Armas and SB; stealth-buddies
  104. [2011-12-30 00:17:28] <MrTT> its funny how she rolls so crazy good usually... except the one time she fights armas
  105. [2011-12-30 00:17:34] <MrTT> where armas rolls crazy good and she doesn't
  106. [2011-12-30 00:17:37] <Guile> she still rolled well
  107. [2011-12-30 00:17:41] <Guile> just not THAT well
  108. [2011-12-30 00:17:50] <BUTTZ> Yeah it was crazy
  109. [2011-12-30 00:17:51] <Bob> 4http://images.4chan.org/tg/src/1325217521207.jpg
  110. [2011-12-30 00:17:56] <MrTT> i bet she uses weighted die
  111. [2011-12-30 00:18:14] <Bob> 4online dicerolling
  112. [2011-12-30 00:18:19] <Bob> 4what exactly is she going to weight?
  113. [2011-12-30 00:18:27] <Shifter20> Weighted air currents.
  114. [2011-12-30 00:18:28] <Gunpowder_Symphony> ELECTRONS
  115. [2011-12-30 00:18:29] <kendle> The internet
  116. [2011-12-30 00:18:33] <kendle> She uses a weighted internet
  117. [2011-12-30 00:18:34] <BUTTZ> I have a bunch of casino dice
  118. [2011-12-30 00:18:40] <kendle> Obviously the only answer
  119. [2011-12-30 00:18:42] <BUTTZ> They're really pretty, and incredibly random
  120. [2011-12-30 00:19:33] <NaiveOne> she has a deal with the RNG
  121. [2011-12-30 00:19:39] <NaiveOne> of the internet
  122. [2011-12-30 00:19:46] <Ironybot> Guys! Focus! Rocco charging tons of money how convince to pay!
  123. [2011-12-30 00:20:07] <MrTT> you realize that hillevi is not an employee right?
  124. [2011-12-30 00:20:15] <Ironybot> What of it?
  125. [2011-12-30 00:20:26] <BUTTZ> She's a ward, and if she wants in on the fight she can have in on the fight
  126. [2011-12-30 00:20:31] <BUTTZ> We promised her dad she'd get to fight
  127. [2011-12-30 00:20:35] <MrTT> yes
  128. [2011-12-30 00:20:40] <Ironybot> Flashing Hillevi's family name and her status as our ward would actually be a decent way to establish our credentials as a heavy hitter.
  129. [2011-12-30 00:20:49] <MrTT> but i mean the suggested to get paid to bring in hilevi
  130. [2011-12-30 00:20:58] <BUTTZ> She'd get the money for it
  131. [2011-12-30 00:21:02] <Ironybot> We're sure as hell not bringing her in for free.
  132. [2011-12-30 00:21:12] <Bob> 4http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentinelese_people
  133. [2011-12-30 00:21:15] <Ironybot> And her dad did explicitly say that Nazis were great targets for her.
  134. [2011-12-30 00:21:18] <MrTT> obviously ironybot... but i meant more like what buttz said
  135. [2011-12-30 00:21:21] <Bob> 3>Have not discovered fire
  136. [2011-12-30 00:21:25] <MrTT> she needs to get paid
  137. [2011-12-30 00:21:53] <Guile> what was Stallon, exactly? Manifested land god?
  138. [2011-12-30 00:21:55] <Ironybot> I don't think she would actually care about the money. She can get some, sure, but whatever.
  139. [2011-12-30 00:21:58] <MrTT> actually... we can present it that way you know
  140. [2011-12-30 00:21:59] <kendle> Prometheus missed some people I take it.
  141. [2011-12-30 00:22:02] <Guile> Pity we'd almost have to charge more for our ward than us
  142. [2011-12-30 00:22:04] <Bob> 3manifested low-mid tier god
  143. [2011-12-30 00:22:33] <Bob> 3They threw sticks and rocks at him until he left
  144. [2011-12-30 00:22:37] <MrTT> As in, well you are here to broaden your horizons and fight some dudes... well, I found out that when someone makes me as an enemy they usually have OTHER enemeis who are willing to pay me to ice them (hur hur)
  145. [2011-12-30 00:22:42] <Bob> 3he said fuck it, he didn't need EVERY last human for his experiment
  146. [2011-12-30 00:22:50] <Bob> 3and that way he has a control
  147. [2011-12-30 00:24:19] <MrTT> wait... they don't even use fire? they eat all their food raw?
  148. [2011-12-30 00:24:25] <MrTT> crazy
  149. [2011-12-30 00:24:28] <Bob> 3It's a little sad, but I can't tell who would benefit more from fighting in the Undersewer arenas: Armas/SB/Sake/Hummingbro, entered as 'soulbrothers' 'and entrant's spirit animal(s)' as a collective whole, all learning and such.....
  150. [2011-12-30 00:24:31] <Shifter20> Or they sundry it.
  151. [2011-12-30 00:24:31] <Bob> 3Or Camella
  152. [2011-12-30 00:24:34] <Bob> 3just Camella
  153. [2011-12-30 00:24:54] <kendle> Benefit as in profit?
  154. [2011-12-30 00:25:02] <Ironybot> You don't think Hillevi would get much out of it?
  155. [2011-12-30 00:25:05] <kendle> Get the most out of te experience?
  156. [2011-12-30 00:25:13] <kendle> Because Armas can steal chakra techniques
  157. [2011-12-30 00:25:16] <Bob> 3Not really because most of the things she could fight there are... below her weight
  158. [2011-12-30 00:25:22] <kendle> And that was specifically mentioned as THE spot.
  159. [2011-12-30 00:25:25] <Bob> 3You'd have to go deeper
  160. [2011-12-30 00:25:31] <Bob> 3to one of the largely Draconic arenas
  161. [2011-12-30 00:25:35] <kendle> So Armas personally benefits a great deal.
  162. [2011-12-30 00:25:50] <BUTTZ> Eh, I don't want to go to a dragon arena
  163. [2011-12-30 00:25:59] <kendle> And due to lolGodling can probably earn more money in an arena
  164. [2011-12-30 00:26:09] <kendle> Because I doubt it's often they get one
  165. [2011-12-30 00:26:16] <kendle> It's probably like an exotic act.
  166. [2011-12-30 00:26:21] <Bob> 3not just a godling
  167. [2011-12-30 00:26:26] <Bob> 3a DUAL BLOODLINE godling
  168. [2011-12-30 00:26:59] <Bob> 3who has a Soul Shadow, a Spirit Brother (alongside said soul shadow for a triumvirate), and a rather... unorthodox Spirit Animal
  169. [2011-12-30 00:27:02] <MrTT> Well
  170. [2011-12-30 00:27:14] <MrTT> Why can't both armas and camella go into the arena?
  171. [2011-12-30 00:27:20] <Bob> 3They can
  172. [2011-12-30 00:27:21] <MrTT> Also... does camella even WANT to go to the arena?
  173. [2011-12-30 00:27:22] <NaiveOne> Tag Team!
  174. [2011-12-30 00:27:23] <BUTTZ> They'd end up fighting each other
  175. [2011-12-30 00:27:30] <Guile> Because then its not tag team, it's like 5-on-2
  176. [2011-12-30 00:27:33] <Bob> 3They would end up fighting one another
  177. [2011-12-30 00:27:33] <MrTT> Buttz, I fail to see a negative here
  178. [2011-12-30 00:27:43] <MrTT> wait... its to the death isn't it?
  179. [2011-12-30 00:27:44] <Bob> 3in team matches, the winning team then has to battle for a singular winner
  180. [2011-12-30 00:27:48] <kendle> It's most often to the death
  181. [2011-12-30 00:27:48] <BUTTZ> We'd have to kill her, or let her kill us
  182. [2011-12-30 00:27:52] <Guile> ... I fail to see a negative here.
  183. [2011-12-30 00:28:04] <MrTT> we can come back from death but then it is revealed to EVERYONE that we can
  184. [2011-12-30 00:28:07] <MrTT> we lose a big secret
  185. [2011-12-30 00:28:09] <Guile> okay, that was a joke, dont want to be spreading our deathlessness around
  186. [2011-12-30 00:28:25] <MrTT> also lose goblin meats
  187. [2011-12-30 00:28:35] <kendle> I don't see how we'd instantly have to fight her though
  188. [2011-12-30 00:28:42] <kendle> If she really is going to a separate arena
  189. [2011-12-30 00:29:03] <MrTT> well... we could enter at different times
  190. [2011-12-30 00:29:03] <kendle> We'd get a short grace period where they haven't realized she shouldn't be fighting at that weight class
  191. [2011-12-30 00:29:04] <MrTT> or different arenas
  192. [2011-12-30 00:29:09] <BUTTZ> Oh you mean play through two different tournaments?
  193. [2011-12-30 00:29:24] <MrTT> don't they have an arena battle on a periodic basis? armas goes one week, she goes another
  194. [2011-12-30 00:30:09] <Bob> 3oh, there's fights all day, every day, at every arena
  195. [2011-12-30 00:30:25] <MrTT> "White silk shirt, white silk pants, albino snake leather loafers-and most importantly of all-a brilliantly garish orange tie." - I love how armas dresses
  196. [2011-12-30 00:30:30] <PriceisMagic> I like the sound of this place
  197. [2011-12-30 00:30:33] <MrTT> I wish I could afford to dress like that
  198. [2011-12-30 00:30:40] <Bob> 3regenerator slaves to serve as 'reusable losers' makes it pretty easy to do.
  199. [2011-12-30 00:31:04] <kendle> Armas would sign up under a terrible name too
  200. [2011-12-30 00:31:08] <MrTT> is the "to the death" part mitigated for them?
  201. [2011-12-30 00:31:18] <kendle> Armasus MaxiLainus
  202. [2011-12-30 00:31:19] <MrTT> where you only have to do certain amount of damage?
  203. [2011-12-30 00:31:28] <MrTT> Otherwise they wouldn't be at all reusable
  204. [2011-12-30 00:32:06] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Armas' arena name: Trollius Seizure
  205. [2011-12-30 00:32:14] <Bob> 3It's not that hard to bind an enslaved soul to have it's powers be delayed, or other considerable feats-these things can ONLY regenerate when put into a terminal state-so once they start healing, you know you won. The slaves motivation to win? Every time they die, they forget something
  206. [2011-12-30 00:32:19] <Bob> 3what will they lose next?
  207. [2011-12-30 00:32:35] <MrTT> you know, in skyrim I got into a fight with a dragon early on... I leveled up several times before killing it. I would spend all my mana hitting it, and healing myself, dodging whenever I ran low on mana to heal
  208. [2011-12-30 00:32:36] <PriceisMagic> Wow
  209. [2011-12-30 00:32:37] <PriceisMagic> Thats terrible
  210. [2011-12-30 00:32:53] <kendle> I take it there are soul-agreements that disallow the arena runners from using blood or bone lost on the field?
  211. [2011-12-30 00:33:04] <PriceisMagic> Whats the prize?
  212. [2011-12-30 00:33:24] <Bob> 3Prize? Usually it's slaves, at least in the undersewer
  213. [2011-12-30 00:33:27] <MrTT> @bob: But do they actually DIE... if they actyually DIE and then come back then they are not regenerating they are resurrecting
  214. [2011-12-30 00:33:27] <Bob> 3sometimes its other things
  215. [2011-12-30 00:33:34] <MrTT> I thgought self resurrection is rare as fuck
  216. [2011-12-30 00:33:35] <Ironybot> What kind of slaves? That is, bound how?
  217. [2011-12-30 00:34:15] <MrTT> i would imagine they start regenerating when they have taken wounds that would have been lethal without regeneration and then regeneration activates just before they die
  218. [2011-12-30 00:34:29] <Bob> 3Ones that willingly gave their soul to a devil or otherwise become 'officially' owned. So per the accords, so long as you don't disintegrate their soul or graft new pieces on its soul-you can do whatever you want with them
  219. [2011-12-30 00:34:35] <Bob> 3and they HAVE to obey you
  220. [2011-12-30 00:34:38] <BUTTZ> Slaves huh?
  221. [2011-12-30 00:34:51] <Guile> 'Weasel and Troll', 'Quadruple Threat', 'The Bacchanal Brawlers', 'Not Quite Human', 'Just Beastly', 'The King and Us', 'Trauma Center'
  222. [2011-12-30 00:34:52] <MrTT> free the slaves!
  223. [2011-12-30 00:35:01] <MrTT> mmm... actually what kind of reward do you get for winning?
  224. [2011-12-30 00:35:02] <BUTTZ> I wonder what Camella would do with her winnings
  225. [2011-12-30 00:35:12] <BUTTZ> "Wait, you mean I own someone now?"
  226. [2011-12-30 00:35:16] <MrTT> lol
  227. [2011-12-30 00:35:50] <Guile> Wait, no, enter as Maximus Decimus Meridius
  228. [2011-12-30 00:35:51] <Ironybot> Cunning plan: Introduce Camella to the arenas by entering her as a competitor on behalf of the company. All her winnings become corporate assets that way.
  229. [2011-12-30 00:35:51] <kendle> If we won slaves we could probably trade them in to the Red Caps or SM.
  230. [2011-12-30 00:35:53] <Guile> no reason
  231. [2011-12-30 00:36:01] <kendle> Ooh
  232. [2011-12-30 00:36:02] <kendle> I like it
  233. [2011-12-30 00:36:10] <kendle> Get's the company's name out there
  234. [2011-12-30 00:36:13] <Guile> or force them to work for the company
  235. [2011-12-30 00:36:18] <Bob> 3and they 'die' in that their heart stops or worse brain is fatally damaged-there is that period of 'the rest of this body is undergoing cascade failure in the next second', and it is during that a memory is pulled apart and unraveled
  236. [2011-12-30 00:36:20] <kendle> We can put up different members too.
  237. [2011-12-30 00:36:22] <Ironybot> And the company can cover for her debts in the unlikely event that she loses.
  238. [2011-12-30 00:36:35] <MrTT> "She is either incredibly dumb or purposefully being obtuse as none of it seems to be sinking in-and more importantly, I've made a point of flagrantly ignoring local customs"
  239. [2011-12-30 00:36:44] <BUTTZ> She would probably set them free, and insist we do so if she learns we won them.
  240. [2011-12-30 00:36:46] <MrTT> Looks to me like she doesn't believe in "do as I say not as I do"
  241. [2011-12-30 00:36:58] <MrTT> if armas can flaunt local customs, so can she :P
  242. [2011-12-30 00:37:26] <kendle> Eh I'm sure we can find more suitable arenas
  243. [2011-12-30 00:37:28] <BUTTZ> We should have a talk with her about that. Find out how much fun she wants to have being all trolly like us.
  244. [2011-12-30 00:37:33] <Guile> When you find a set of laws you like (and it's Hammurabi's 'eye for an eye'), then one must work it
  245. [2011-12-30 00:37:36] <kendle> Or once we get our name out as for a different type of payout.
  246. [2011-12-30 00:37:42] <BUTTZ> Because she already knows there aren't many limits for Armas
  247. [2011-12-30 00:37:52] <MrTT> I don't think "get entered into tournaments to the death" is your standard mercenary fare
  248. [2011-12-30 00:38:02] <Ironybot> We can have Amen fleshwarp these theoretical slaves into horrible monstrosities which we can field in battle to bring terror and ruin to our enemies. You know you want to.
  249. [2011-12-30 00:38:03] <BUTTZ> It's something Armas would do though
  250. [2011-12-30 00:38:03] <Guile> or for Valkonens. Seriously, they do NOT play well with others
  251. [2011-12-30 00:38:04] <MrTT> nor do I think the company should or would take a cut from such a thing
  252. [2011-12-30 00:38:13] <MrTT> Introducing employees to such tournaments if they want to participate? fine
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  254. [2011-12-30 00:38:38] <MrTT> Sending them to such tournaments to win a SPECIFIC prize and paying them extra for it (aka, if the prize is a specific creature)... fine
  255. [2011-12-30 00:38:46] <kendle> I don't think this would be a standard practice for anyone below officer level who has shown interest.
  256. [2011-12-30 00:38:55] <BUTTZ> "What, you think the Penis Troll incident was the first time I've run around cities naked?"
  257. [2011-12-30 00:38:58] <MrTT> but just "lol I am greedy, own your ass, and take a cut of your income" no... that is NOT how a company works
  258. [2011-12-30 00:39:00] <kendle> Nor has anyone indicated anyone would be sent forcfully
  259. [2011-12-30 00:39:03] <Guile> the russians just aint got what it takes
  260. [2011-12-30 00:39:14] <Guile> they aint a contender
  261. [2011-12-30 00:39:14] <MrTT> Its not a matter of forcibly
  262. [2011-12-30 00:39:30] <Ironybot> We would only send in people who we think would win, and by winning bring the company positive PR amongst the spectators who might later hire us.
  263. [2011-12-30 00:39:34] <MrTT> If you had a boss that suggested you enter a tournament to the death and he take a cut of your winning
  264. [2011-12-30 00:39:39] <MrTT> you will tell him to gof uck himself
  265. [2011-12-30 00:39:44] <MrTT> camella would naturally say the same
  266. [2011-12-30 00:39:52] <BUTTZ> Then she'd beat Armas up
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  268. [2011-12-30 00:39:55] <BUTTZ> To beat some of the stupid out
  269. [2011-12-30 00:40:12] <BUTTZ> And SB and Sake would both laugh and laugh
  270. [2011-12-30 00:40:15] <Ironybot> Every time our people go into combat, they are essentially entering a contest to the death against the opposition. We take not just a cut from that, but most of the money.
  271. [2011-12-30 00:40:23] <MrTT> Ironybo, if we are after PR than you would take the approach of "I will pay you extra, only send you if I think you can win, and you keep all your own winnings of course"
  272. [2011-12-30 00:40:26] <Ironybot> This is just a slightly more formalized method of the same thing.
  273. [2011-12-30 00:40:30] <BUTTZ> And Hummingbird would agree that she had a legitimate complaint, and would allow it.
  274. [2011-12-30 00:40:57] <Ironybot> That sounds like a good way to take a loss on this project.
  275. [2011-12-30 00:41:01] <MrTT> @Ironybot: And "marriage" can be argued to be a more formalized form of prostitution but if you try to whore out your wife you will end in fail
  276. [2011-12-30 00:41:23] <Ironybot> ...yet people sell their daughters into marriage all the time.
  277. [2011-12-30 00:41:31] <MrTT> Enteirng an employee into a fight to the death and taking a cut is like trying to whore out your wife with the argument that marriage is like whoring
  278. [2011-12-30 00:41:34] <MrTT> it doesn't work
  279. [2011-12-30 00:41:44] <BUTTZ> And at the end of the day Armas would have learned the only way to keep Camella from beating him up for every magnificently stupid idea would be to pretend to get sexual gratification from the beatings.
  280. [2011-12-30 00:41:44] <NaiveOne> look, Irony is my little girl, and I say she is worth at east pig and a chicken
  281. [2011-12-30 00:41:56] <MrTT> there are intrinsic differences which are mostly psychological and in who does what to whom which makes it a bad and unacceptable thing
  282. [2011-12-30 00:42:15] <Ironybot> A pig and a chicken? She doesn't even have good teeth! Just the pig, no more.
  283. [2011-12-30 00:42:32] <MrTT> no buttz, pretending to get sexual gratification from it will make her just leave rather then take out her frustrations in combat
  284. [2011-12-30 00:42:42] <MrTT> Also will attract unwanted attention from amen
  285. [2011-12-30 00:43:12] <BUTTZ> The smart thing to do is not voice stupid ideas to Camella
  286. [2011-12-30 00:43:16] <NaiveOne> noone has good teeth in this tribe! and she can sew like a goddess trained her, ADD THE CHICKEN!
  287. [2011-12-30 00:43:35] <BUTTZ> Or maybe work out a system where we seek her leave to burden her with a stupid idea before we actually do so
  288. [2011-12-30 00:43:41] <kendle> Guys
  289. [2011-12-30 00:43:54] <kendle> Someone needs to start Medieval pimp quest
  290. [2011-12-30 00:43:56] <kendle> Now
  291. [2011-12-30 00:44:07] <BUTTZ> No uy
  292. [2011-12-30 00:44:14] <BUTTZ> no way
  293. [2011-12-30 00:44:16] <Ironybot> Sew like a goddess? Then why is your shirt so tattered?
  294. [2011-12-30 00:44:18] <NaiveOne> fine- DREAMERS CANCELED! Midieval Pimp Quest IS ON!
  295. [2011-12-30 00:45:04] <MrTT> @NaiveOne: you are a horrible man... and hilarious one too
  296. [2011-12-30 00:46:00] <BUTTZ> Only 5 million for Einrik?
  297. [2011-12-30 00:46:16] <MrTT> Armas should have, like a negative trait "Terrible Talentless Teacher"
  298. [2011-12-30 00:46:34] <BUTTZ> Funny that he sold his services as a trainer to the goblins
  299. [2011-12-30 00:46:38] <BUTTZ> I mean, really, really funny
  300. [2011-12-30 00:46:39] <MrTT> lol
  301. [2011-12-30 00:46:41] <MrTT> BY THE HOUR
  302. [2011-12-30 00:46:51] <kendle> We probably got twice as many hours as we should have
  303. [2011-12-30 00:46:52] <Ironybot> Why would we even consider getting Einrik in on this? That would rob both us and Hillevi of the experience.
  304. [2011-12-30 00:47:04] <MrTT> It wont
  305. [2011-12-30 00:47:12] <MrTT> There are tons of arenas of various difficulty levels
  306. [2011-12-30 00:47:20] <MrTT> Einrik will be entering the more difficult arenas
  307. [2011-12-30 00:47:26] <BUTTZ> We're talking about the job now
  308. [2011-12-30 00:47:28] <Ironybot> The word "this" referenced the Rocco job.
  309. [2011-12-30 00:47:34] <MrTT> einrik wants to push himself, test himself... not plought through weaklings
  310. [2011-12-30 00:47:35] <kendle> But that would be a useless trait, unless Armas decides to lobotomize himself I doubt he'll get progressively worse at teaching, unless we can somehow turn a negative trait directly around into a positive one.
  311. [2011-12-30 00:47:49] <MrTT> it was a joke kendle
  312. [2011-12-30 00:47:56] <kendle> What's that MrTT?
  313. [2011-12-30 00:48:02] <Gunpowder_Symphony> I can imagine how a call to Einrik would go.
  314. [2011-12-30 00:48:07] <kendle> I can't tell over the cries of all the jokes you've killed.
  315. [2011-12-30 00:48:13] <kendle> They scream to me at night
  316. [2011-12-30 00:48:14] <MrTT> btw are you named after the lesbian pervert from the webcomic "strawberry death cake"?
  317. [2011-12-30 00:48:23] <Gunpowder_Symphony> "Hey Einrik! Whatcha doing? You busy? Wanna kill some Nazis?"
  318. [2011-12-30 00:48:29] <kendle> Mibbit randomly generated the name
  319. [2011-12-30 00:48:36] <MrTT> lol
  320. [2011-12-30 00:48:39] <kendle> So maybe mibbit is a big fan
  321. [2011-12-30 00:48:59] <MrTT> maybe
  322. [2011-12-30 00:49:48] <Guile> hence 'one or two'. We tell Einrik, 'going to kill Nazis. Wanna come?' then he comes or not
  323. [2011-12-30 00:50:00] <MrTT> kendle favorite passtimes is groping the other females at the MIB
  324. [2011-12-30 00:50:15] <Guile> ... dammit, gun
  325. [2011-12-30 00:50:27] <kendle> At the Men in Black?
  326. [2011-12-30 00:50:53] <NaiveOne> someday, Armas should wear something unassuming and not-oran... yeah, I cant even finish that
  327. [2011-12-30 00:50:54] <MrTT> well, its a MIB equivalent
  328. [2011-12-30 00:50:59] <MrTT> its not called men in black
  329. [2011-12-30 00:51:21] <kendle> Armas should wear clothes that don't look orange
  330. [2011-12-30 00:51:23] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Heheheh.
  331. [2011-12-30 00:51:25] <Guile> we were totally normal and unassuming today
  332. [2011-12-30 00:51:37] <kendle> But that change colors
  333. [2011-12-30 00:51:48] <MrTT> I can just imagine armas trying to be "low key"... wearing a gold fleeced t-shirt, silk shorts... NO TIE... and...
  334. [2011-12-30 00:51:50] <kendle> Like invisible ink
  335. [2011-12-30 00:51:55] <MrTT> holy shit we NEED to get a magical pimp cane
  336. [2011-12-30 00:52:01] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Have him wear magic body paint so that he looks like he has technicolor leprosy.
  337. [2011-12-30 00:52:24] <kendle> I still think we need to wear tear-aways
  338. [2011-12-30 00:52:35] <Bob> 3layers of tear aways
  339. [2011-12-30 00:52:36] <MrTT> http://img.costumecraze.com/images/vendors/funworld/90816G-Gold-Pimp-Cane-large.jpg
  340. [2011-12-30 00:52:37] <kendle> That way we can walk around the house dressed like Mr. Rogers
  341. [2011-12-30 00:52:38] <Bob> 3all fancy suits
  342. [2011-12-30 00:52:40] <Gunpowder_Symphony> "Technicolor leprosy" has been and will continue to be one of my favorite terms.
  343. [2011-12-30 00:52:47] <kendle> Then when the call to action comes in
  344. [2011-12-30 00:52:53] <kendle> Armas can tear away like eight layers
  345. [2011-12-30 00:53:12] <kendle> Chef's costume
  346. [2011-12-30 00:53:13] <MrTT> well... armas is immune to cold but he isn't immune to heat yet I think
  347. [2011-12-30 00:53:19] <kendle> Smoking jacket
  348. [2011-12-30 00:53:24] <MrTT> but if he was then wearing layers of tear aways would be awesome
  349. [2011-12-30 00:53:30] <kendle> Big Game Hunter
  350. [2011-12-30 00:53:38] <kendle> Pirate
  351. [2011-12-30 00:53:43] <Bob> 3He got more than a few weird looks for being so lightly dressed. Hillevi didn't notice since she thinks it's warm
  352. [2011-12-30 00:53:44] <Guile> final layer: superman outfit, but with a big 'A'
  353. [2011-12-30 00:53:48] <BUTTZ> Armas ends up naked like one in five big fights now
  354. [2011-12-30 00:54:09] <MrTT> "I instead choose to turn her into my pack mule, carrying more than a dozen different bags containing assorted spices. "
  355. [2011-12-30 00:54:14] <MrTT> ROFLMAO oh my god that is so wrong
  356. [2011-12-30 00:54:18] <Guile> the curse of mundane fabrics subjected to supernatural fights
  357. [2011-12-30 00:54:34] <kendle> We should ask Einrik
  358. [2011-12-30 00:54:36] <MrTT> I was at new york a few weeks ago
  359. [2011-12-30 00:54:40] <Bob> 3Basically, Armas' thought process
  360. [2011-12-30 00:54:46] <kendle> He get's crushed and cut in half in fights
  361. [2011-12-30 00:54:50] <MrTT> downtown new york, 1 am... -5 degrees C
  362. [2011-12-30 00:54:53] <Bob> 3'Oh REEEEAAAAALLY, not gonna listen huh'
  363. [2011-12-30 00:54:55] <kendle> He must know a good way to prevent this.
  364. [2011-12-30 00:54:56] <Bob> 3'carry this'
  365. [2011-12-30 00:54:58] <Bob> 3'and this'
  366. [2011-12-30 00:55:01] <Bob> 3'this too'
  367. [2011-12-30 00:55:02] <MrTT> I went out in a light T-shirt, shorts, and flip flops
  368. [2011-12-30 00:55:06] <Bob> 3'no it's good for you now carry this'
  369. [2011-12-30 00:55:10] <Bob> 3'ahuh this too'
  370. [2011-12-30 00:55:18] <MrTT> it was cold but meh, I ran too to cover ground faster since you can't drive
  371. [2011-12-30 00:55:20] <Bob> 3'well you have bigger arms-this too'
  372. [2011-12-30 00:55:23] <Guile> Armas is gonna be a trolly Ito someday. Or he would if he ever aged.
  373. [2011-12-30 00:55:30] <MrTT> so here I am running between streets in woefully little clothes for the temp
  374. [2011-12-30 00:55:36] <MrTT> it was hilarious
  375. [2011-12-30 00:55:49] <Guile> "One who refuses to exercise brain must exersize arms."
  376. [2011-12-30 00:55:54] <MrTT> lol
  377. [2011-12-30 00:56:05] <BUTTZ> 'now let's go back to what I was saying before, Hillevi, about how you can't kill someone for grabbing your butt'
  378. [2011-12-30 00:56:13] <kendle> "Then why are your arms so small grandpa Armas?"
  379. [2011-12-30 00:56:48] <Bob> 3'I didn't say GOOD exercise, squirt!'
  380. [2011-12-30 00:56:56] <Bob> 3a-yuup
  381. [2011-12-30 00:56:59] <Bob> 3call her squirt
  382. [2011-12-30 00:57:00] <Guile> "Grandpa Armas found others to exercise arms for him. Like annoying grandchildren!" *parents come back to find their children doing Armas's yardwork*
  383. [2011-12-30 00:57:17] <MrTT> ">"Do you honestly expect me to believe that time travel is a legitimate justification for expending difficult to obtain training time"
  384. [2011-12-30 00:57:32] <MrTT> Did someone try to metagame and "prepare" armas for the japan trip?
  385. [2011-12-30 00:57:36] <Guile> Oh yes. We may just get to RUB THIS IN SB'S FACE SO HARD one day
  386. [2011-12-30 00:57:49] <MrTT> ... that is hilarious
  387. [2011-12-30 00:58:09] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Elderly Armas = Trollfucius
  388. [2011-12-30 00:58:09] <MrTT> on the one hand we are at fault for metagaming, on the other hand the hilarious trolling
  389. [2011-12-30 00:58:22] <BUTTZ> My favorite line in the update was: "
  390. [2011-12-30 00:58:22] <kendle> I TOLD YOU SB
  391. [2011-12-30 00:58:24] <BUTTZ> >"Do you honestly expect me to believe that time travel is a legitimate justification for expending difficult to obtain training time? That... that's more preposterous than any of the worst case scenarios I've considered. You'd have to be mad to think that likely.""
  392. [2011-12-30 00:58:25] <kendle> I TOLD YOU DOG
  393. [2011-12-30 00:58:48] <Guile> "What was that, brother? Never gonna end up time travelling back to ancient Japan, huh? Oh yeah, oh yeah, that's right, get down with your bad self-" "Armas, okay, I giess- Armas, would you stop dancing? It wasstill a stupid idea-" "uh huh, uh huh, do a little dance, make a little love... one moment, SBro..."
  394. [2011-12-30 00:58:51] <MrTT> Honestly we shouldn't use the goblins treaining on anything but charms
  395. [2011-12-30 00:58:56] <MrTT> we already decided to become a charm master
  396. [2011-12-30 00:59:10] <BUTTZ> Yeah charms was the route we wanted to go
  397. [2011-12-30 00:59:16] <MrTT> Not a weapons crafter, not ammo, less others..
  398. [2011-12-30 00:59:25] <MrTT> lo fang crafts charms and looks how well it works for him
  399. [2011-12-30 00:59:30] <kendle> What kind of distance would we get out of charm crafting Bob?
  400. [2011-12-30 00:59:34] <Bob> 3if you pick charms
  401. [2011-12-30 00:59:41] <BUTTZ> Goblin, paper chakra, and overcharged chakra styled into something new
  402. [2011-12-30 00:59:45] <MrTT> lo fang charms training and goblins charm training
  403. [2011-12-30 00:59:53] <Guile> we may want to ask them for specific charm types to learn as needs arise
  404. [2011-12-30 01:00:02] <Guile> give some direction and structure to the lessons
  405. [2011-12-30 01:00:04] <BUTTZ> With us and the Sami working on that last one together
  406. [2011-12-30 01:00:06] <Bob> 3it is strongly recommended you nominate a focus, specialty, or preference of focus-it is a broader topic than the hours you have acquired by far, and just learning universally could be a waste
  407. [2011-12-30 01:00:24] <BUTTZ> Illusions seem to be what we want the most
  408. [2011-12-30 01:00:28] <kendle> Because Armas is supposedly on his way to getting a weapon augmenting trait wasn't he? A highly specialized and valuable one if I recall.
  409. [2011-12-30 01:00:31] <kendle> isn't*
  410. [2011-12-30 01:00:32] <Bob> 3Yeah you can't tell how stoned I am, no....
  411. [2011-12-30 01:00:37] <BUTTZ> It's what we keep thinking up uses for
  412. [2011-12-30 01:00:37] <kendle> is*
  413. [2011-12-30 01:00:38] <kendle> Bleh.
  414. [2011-12-30 01:00:51] <Gunpowder_Symphony> ...Heh. Armas going to charm school...
  415. [2011-12-30 01:00:53] * Gunpowder_Symphony snickers.
  416. [2011-12-30 01:00:56] <MrTT> lol
  417. [2011-12-30 01:00:56] <Guile> Amen does the illusion charm, but there's always room for extra layers
  418. [2011-12-30 01:01:00] <Guile> good one again, gun
  419. [2011-12-30 01:01:04] <Guile> www.instantrimshot.com
  420. [2011-12-30 01:01:05] * Gunpowder_Symphony bows.
  421. [2011-12-30 01:01:12] <MrTT> mmm.... defensive charms, layers and layers of defenses
  422. [2011-12-30 01:01:15] <Bob> 3The more you focus it the better. For example: how long does the charm need to last/how fast do you need to make it/how easy does the recipe need to be to fulfill, assuming proper skill?
  423. [2011-12-30 01:01:16] <MrTT> stacked on top of each other
  424. [2011-12-30 01:01:17] <NaiveOne> yes, Armas should learn SEDUCTION!
  425. [2011-12-30 01:01:24] <BUTTZ> Amen's charm is a memetic virus that re-writes the very concept of who you're looking at to work
  426. [2011-12-30 01:01:27] <Bob> 3like, you want to spend hours and MONEY on making nice charms
  427. [2011-12-30 01:01:32] <Guile> so the choice is going to be important
  428. [2011-12-30 01:01:40] <Bob> 3do you want to spend weeks and AMAZING WEALTH to make amazing charms
  429. [2011-12-30 01:01:44] <Guile> if we want to ever be a Lo Fang 'write charm in battle' master
  430. [2011-12-30 01:01:48] <Bob> 3do you want to battle craft highly transient items
  431. [2011-12-30 01:02:11] <MrTT> we... want to learn more about the various kinds of charms so that we can pick what we think is best
  432. [2011-12-30 01:02:16] <Bob> 4Yes, the choice is important because this is going to be hard for Armas to learn, so the more you can optimize the learning path, the better.
  433. [2011-12-30 01:02:17] <Divine_Will> battlecrafting? not huge on them thanks
  434. [2011-12-30 01:02:29] <MrTT> yes, not battle crafting
  435. [2011-12-30 01:02:37] <MrTT> be crazy prepared
  436. [2011-12-30 01:02:38] <Bob> 4The Taoist Charms are pretty heavy on battle crafting
  437. [2011-12-30 01:02:41] <BUTTZ> We're going to need to get the hummingbird to think this is important, so it can ride Armas' ass
  438. [2011-12-30 01:02:45] <Bob> 4just as an fyi
  439. [2011-12-30 01:02:54] <Guile> we could focus on trap charms to synergize with goblinic trap making
  440. [2011-12-30 01:02:57] <MrTT> what are the charms that lo fang put on his people?
  441. [2011-12-30 01:03:09] <Guile> which ones?
  442. [2011-12-30 01:03:17] <Guile> the disciples had those shields I WANT to learn
  443. [2011-12-30 01:03:20] <Bob> 4BUTTZ if you accomplish that it WOULD boost Armas' learning, but would mean convincing SM the bird can come-when he will exclude your soul brothers from training time.
  444. [2011-12-30 01:03:23] <MrTT> the ones the disciples wore during the fight with reapers
  445. [2011-12-30 01:03:45] <Guile> the one that got a corpse back on its feet like a mini-spirit einher
  446. [2011-12-30 01:03:49] <Bob> 4Or hoping the bird doesn't do irreperable damage to SM rep when, if it wants to help you and is motivated to, it pierces the NN zone to aid you in training
  447. [2011-12-30 01:03:53] <Bob> 4because arrogant or no
  448. [2011-12-30 01:04:00] <Bob> 4he said he'd protect you and yours
  449. [2011-12-30 01:04:02] <Divine_Will> wouldnt mind learning a little illusion charm for disposable breif invisibility charms that only work on mundane humans
  450. [2011-12-30 01:04:07] <Bob> 4he takes that shit seriously
  451. [2011-12-30 01:04:14] <BUTTZ> Oh man SM would be pissed about that
  452. [2011-12-30 01:04:30] <MrTT> SM was furious when BB broke into his NN pocket where he did the dealings...
  453. [2011-12-30 01:04:32] <Guile> not something we should ever seek out, but hilarious
  454. [2011-12-30 01:04:33] <Bob> 4He'd have done it with the best of intentions.
  455. [2011-12-30 01:04:34] <BUTTZ> "Your spirit animal broke in. Do you remember the reparations Blackbeard had to pay?"
  456. [2011-12-30 01:04:38] <NaiveOne> ok, so our sin is Pride... what Demon covers that?
  457. [2011-12-30 01:04:55] <Bob> 4So, be aware the the very reason he COULD be useful for the training is why he has to be handled delicately
  458. [2011-12-30 01:04:58] <Guile> Pride, Greed, Gluttony...
  459. [2011-12-30 01:05:05] <MrTT> Bob, I was working on a theory... it seems that ego size is directly proportional to awesomeness
  460. [2011-12-30 01:05:11] <MrTT> dragons, devils, hummingbird
  461. [2011-12-30 01:05:12] <kendle> Armas is too sinful to and greedy to have only one sin
  462. [2011-12-30 01:05:13] <Bob> 4I saw that
  463. [2011-12-30 01:05:25] <BUTTZ> There's an important point in the hummingbird's favor for coming along
  464. [2011-12-30 01:05:26] <MrTT> what do you think of my theory that ego size is the source of power?
  465. [2011-12-30 01:05:28] <Guile> no, see Turkish dude that got BB's sword
  466. [2011-12-30 01:05:35] <Guile> big ego, still a small fish
  467. [2011-12-30 01:05:40] <BUTTZ> It doesn't have hands. It can't use most of the charm making stuff it could pick up
  468. [2011-12-30 01:05:42] <Ironybot> How is that our sin? Armas isn't actually that prideful, in my opinion. He uses false egotism to distract himself from the fact that he's acting rampantly suicidal all the time.
  469. [2011-12-30 01:05:51] <MrTT> guile i was joking
  470. [2011-12-30 01:05:55] <Bob> 4the Microbes are actually all very passive aggressive and concerned with face because everyone knows everyone. However, once that breaking point is reached-or something is alien to all of them....
  471. [2011-12-30 01:05:56] <kendle> Again MrTT
  472. [2011-12-30 01:05:57] <BUTTZ> Not all the time. Just MOST of the time.
  473. [2011-12-30 01:05:57] <kendle> The cries
  474. [2011-12-30 01:06:02] <kendle> The cries of the dead jokes
  475. [2011-12-30 01:06:02] <NaiveOne> Sake and SB have pride issues
  476. [2011-12-30 01:06:06] <kendle> Slain at your hands
  477. [2011-12-30 01:06:09] <NaiveOne> and their parts of us
  478. [2011-12-30 01:06:09] <Bob> 4So the Ameoba disrupt your idea MrTT
  479. [2011-12-30 01:06:10] <kendle> They want revenge
  480. [2011-12-30 01:06:14] <kendle> Reeeeeeeeveeeeeeeeeeeeeenge
  481. [2011-12-30 01:06:32] <MrTT> so the ameoba do not have super large egos? interesting
  482. [2011-12-30 01:06:43] <MrTT> I don't think armas' pride is his downfall
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  484. [2011-12-30 01:06:52] <MrTT> armas is currently crafty enough to recognize the bigger fish
  485. [2011-12-30 01:06:58] <Guile> Not yet, Greed still seems the top contender for that
  486. [2011-12-30 01:07:02] <MrTT> he puts on a prideful front so they don't murder his ass
  487. [2011-12-30 01:07:05] <Guile> but Pride could make a comeback
  488. [2011-12-30 01:07:15] <Captain-Lightning> ?gfh
  489. [2011-12-30 01:07:16] <Classhole> http://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/360354+50.html
  490. [2011-12-30 01:07:16] <MrTT> what pride?
  491. [2011-12-30 01:07:32] <Guile> if he starts believing his own hype
  492. [2011-12-30 01:07:43] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Hrm...regarding anti-bullet charms...would a series of like 23 linked weak charms, that all reduce the force of an incoming round by 10% one by one until the round is basically defeated by degrees to a tenth of its original velocity, collectively lose charge faster than a single full-strength bullet stopper charm?
  493. [2011-12-30 01:07:51] <Ironybot> Anyway. Charms. I think I would be inclined to go with the "hours and MONEY" version of charm making, because Armas has a myriad of options in battle already and doesn't have an excess of either time or money on his hands which he could invest reasonably in crafting things.
  494. [2011-12-30 01:08:09] <Guile> linked charms would seem to cover for each other nicely
  495. [2011-12-30 01:08:13] <Guile> not unlike BB's charms
  496. [2011-12-30 01:09:20] <Guile> although we'd need to genuinely link them, not just set them up like shield layers, or the first one would burn out, then the second, then the third...
  497. [2011-12-30 01:09:30] <Bob> 4Just be clear on the exact type of charms you want to learn about-and if you are specific enough, you may wish to then attempt to ask for 'general charm training fitting these descriptions' and get access to non goblinic. NORMALLY asking that adds a level of redundancy that lets them fuck you on worth of hours spent learning
  498. [2011-12-30 01:09:43] <Bob> 4but if you are specific enough in what you ask, it is beneficial
  499. [2011-12-30 01:09:57] <Bob> 4have to have absolutely clearcut definitions
  500. [2011-12-30 01:11:09] <BUTTZ> Charms can be set up to use other power sources too, can't they?
  501. [2011-12-30 01:11:12] <Ironybot> It would be effectively impossible to invest our available number of hours in learning enough that we could make charms off knowledge of base principles, rather than needing to be specifically taught about each charm type?
  502. [2011-12-30 01:11:50] <Bob> 4With the hours you have and the lack of base and rate of learning, yes. If you had 5k or more, you'd have a reasonable chance.
  503. [2011-12-30 01:12:06] <Bob> 4but charms as a whole is a deep, deep field
  504. [2011-12-30 01:12:55] <Arkeus> morning, reading ypdate- seems Camella might be quite rich now
  505. [2011-12-30 01:13:13] <Guile> 2000 hours at 6-to-1 is 350 hours or so?
  506. [2011-12-30 01:13:15] <Bob> 4just as is magic armaments crafting (be it artifacts or magic weapons or armor) and chakra manipulation-all things, I must note, that allow for unbloodlined humans to perform a large portion of them.
  507. [2011-12-30 01:13:20] <NaiveOne> I had a thought, but NO
  508. [2011-12-30 01:13:26] <NaiveOne> I realized its an awful ideas
  509. [2011-12-30 01:13:47] <NaiveOne> even for this quest
  510. [2011-12-30 01:13:47] <kendle> Isn't it 2861 hours?
  511. [2011-12-30 01:14:07] <Guile> okay, 450 hours
  512. [2011-12-30 01:14:10] <BUTTZ> .2861/6
  513. [2011-12-30 01:14:19] <MrTT> "<Guile> if he starts believing his own hype" - but that is my point, so far armas didn't...
  514. [2011-12-30 01:14:25] <BUTTZ> Classhole doesn't do math huh?
  515. [2011-12-30 01:14:27] <MrTT> Well, some posters might have made light of doonie
  516. [2011-12-30 01:14:51] <Guile> it wouldnt surprise me if he's starting to, considering what he's done and what he's walking around in
  517. [2011-12-30 01:15:07] <MrTT> With charms i think the most important thing is that they stack
  518. [2011-12-30 01:15:11] <MrTT> and synergize
  519. [2011-12-30 01:15:28] <Guile> yes, ergo choosing a narrow field and its supporting charms
  520. [2011-12-30 01:15:57] <BUTTZ> Harm protection or illusion would be the smartest areas of focus then
  521. [2011-12-30 01:16:27] <BUTTZ> Woah Shogun 2 for $7.50
  522. [2011-12-30 01:16:47] <Guile> Lo Fang's taoist charms seem to have a line of harm protection
  523. [2011-12-30 01:16:49] <Ironybot> I wonder if Sometimes Merchant could optimize our hours spent on charm crafting so that they're worth as much to us as possible, with the stated goal of being versed enough in charm crafting that we could, given a goal, efficiently design and craft a charm which would accomplish it.
  524. [2011-12-30 01:16:58] <Guile> yeah, wish Id waited instead of bought it in autumn
  525. [2011-12-30 01:16:59] <Ironybot> And by "I wonder if he could" I mean "I wonder how much he'd charge".
  526. [2011-12-30 01:17:05] <MrTT> Bob, if armas starts learning charms seriously, what do you think are his chances of being able to reverse engineer the reaper charms by himself in 10 years?
  527. [2011-12-30 01:17:43] <Guile> we'd need to be smarter or better-versed in the subject
  528. [2011-12-30 01:17:48] <Guile> ah
  529. [2011-12-30 01:17:52] <MrTT> Also, it occurs to me, the reason we don't want weapon crafting is that we only need a few weapons crafted... then we just keep them. Likewise the very expensive permanent charms might be better off to buy
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  531. [2011-12-30 01:18:18] <MrTT> I wonder if there are charms for boosting intelligence?
  532. [2011-12-30 01:18:21] <MrTT> or learning capacity
  533. [2011-12-30 01:18:37] <BUTTZ> Someone said there's like 12 in the world and they're all outrageously expensive
  534. [2011-12-30 01:18:52] <MrTT> We don't need to buy them... just timeshare them
  535. [2011-12-30 01:18:54] <Bob> 4Hm Ironybot.... that would be hard to set a price for. I mean, that's such a fundamental personal gain that he will be obligated to the more basic parts of his goblinic nature to ask you to lose something.
  536. [2011-12-30 01:18:58] <kendle> Wasn't that artifacts?
  537. [2011-12-30 01:19:35] <kendle> Or was that three artifacts...
  538. [2011-12-30 01:19:38] <Bob> 4no, it's that there's about a dozen Elder Artifacts in current existence.
  539. [2011-12-30 01:19:53] <Bob> 4and there's about a dozen genuine, no strings mental augment charms
  540. [2011-12-30 01:19:54] <BUTTZ> I wonder if Sometimes Merchant has any training in the psychology of teaching
  541. [2011-12-30 01:20:21] <MrTT> Oh... I got a nice side quest for armas
  542. [2011-12-30 01:20:26] <Bob> 4He's read books
  543. [2011-12-30 01:20:27] <NaiveOne> we could ask our professor semi-friend about teaching?
  544. [2011-12-30 01:20:34] <Ironybot> When you say "to lose something", you mean to lose something that's also part of our fundamental person, as opposed to lose something like wealth or information.
  545. [2011-12-30 01:20:39] <MrTT> Kill the owner of and steal one of those 12 intellect boosting charms
  546. [2011-12-30 01:20:41] <NaiveOne> hes been in the field a long time
  547. [2011-12-30 01:20:43] <Bob> 4That is correct
  548. [2011-12-30 01:20:45] <MrTT> Heck... do so for ALL 12 charms
  549. [2011-12-30 01:20:54] <Bob> 4like the older, grimmer tales of goblin merchants and fae dealings
  550. [2011-12-30 01:21:05] <BUTTZ> I still think the idea of goblins in college is hilarious and ultimately a good one
  551. [2011-12-30 01:21:15] <Bob> 4Unless you can get your hands on something as amazing as 'guaranteed nevernever' strikes again
  552. [2011-12-30 01:21:28] <Bob> 4which, by the way, is more valued than Artifacts
  553. [2011-12-30 01:22:01] <Guile> nah Naive, we just foist Hillevi off on other people when she needs to legitimately learn something
  554. [2011-12-30 01:22:04] <Ironybot> Hrm. We've avoided that sort of expenditure so far- decided against it in the very beginning, and with good reason, I thought. But perhaps... could we substitute someone else's basic personal parts?
  555. [2011-12-30 01:22:25] <Guile> "Hey Camella, since you're not using your last name ANYWAY..."
  556. [2011-12-30 01:22:34] <Bob> 4Please explain in full: There are only a few sort of offers they can accept outside of this
  557. [2011-12-30 01:22:38] <Arkeus> yay, nice update :-)
  558. [2011-12-30 01:22:38] <Ironybot> Can't sell Camella's last name in case she goes home.
  559. [2011-12-30 01:22:46] <Arkeus> ... now to read loges <_<
  560. [2011-12-30 01:22:56] <Guile> and TT, it wouldnt surprise me at all if the 12 mental charms are in the possession of dragons and wizards
  561. [2011-12-30 01:23:12] <Bob> 4two aren't, MrTT
  562. [2011-12-30 01:23:13] <BUTTZ> If we had the world-eye we could sell access to it. I bet they'd love that.
  563. [2011-12-30 01:23:16] <Bob> 4I mean Guile
  564. [2011-12-30 01:23:17] <NaiveOne> we could ask for some basic pointers
  565. [2011-12-30 01:23:22] <Bob> 4like I said: High.
  566. [2011-12-30 01:23:32] <MrTT> why? sell camellas name to the goblin?
  567. [2011-12-30 01:23:33] <NaiveOne> I mean hes a professor, he has HAD to have dealt with culture issues and such
  568. [2011-12-30 01:23:47] <MrTT> "<Guile> and TT, it wouldnt surprise me at all if the 12 mental charms are in the possession of dragons and wizards" - that is what makes it a fun quest :P
  569. [2011-12-30 01:23:48] <NaiveOne> I have seen it as an undergrad
  570. [2011-12-30 01:23:49] <kendle> Then again the realm of "Things that aren't Dragons or Wizards that could squash us like a gnat" is still wide.
  571. [2011-12-30 01:23:53] <Bob> 4The world eye, if set up properly, could be a resource more valueble than your bloodlines.
  572. [2011-12-30 01:24:02] <BUTTZ> Yeah
  573. [2011-12-30 01:24:12] <BUTTZ> Instant intelligence anywhere?
  574. [2011-12-30 01:24:15] <BUTTZ> Amazing
  575. [2011-12-30 01:24:17] <Ironybot> But we would have to actually LOSE it for it to count for this price.
  576. [2011-12-30 01:24:18] <MrTT> If we sell access to the world eye, it will not be unlimited access
  577. [2011-12-30 01:24:43] <Bob> 4IF you had the world eye set up
  578. [2011-12-30 01:24:47] <Bob> 4and it worked as you hoped
  579. [2011-12-30 01:24:48] <MrTT> yes
  580. [2011-12-30 01:24:53] <Ironybot> None of that leasing crap is going to cut it here, unless I really miss my guess.
  581. [2011-12-30 01:24:59] <Guile> but only for landmarks and building blueprints and such, not a map telling where people are located, or able to listen in on conversations, right?
  582. [2011-12-30 01:25:11] <MrTT> So anyways, thinking back to charms
  583. [2011-12-30 01:25:17] <BUTTZ> It's supposed to be a perfect simulation of the world
  584. [2011-12-30 01:25:20] <Bob> 4you could 'lose' supreme authority over it, and merely be the one at the driving wheel, while the goblins can freely roam it as they wish-but for that, they could teach you what you want to know about Charm making.
  585. [2011-12-30 01:25:21] <BUTTZ> So yes, everything, Guile
  586. [2011-12-30 01:25:30] <MrTT> I think maybe we need to get one of our employees trained in hours and MONEY charm crafting
  587. [2011-12-30 01:25:35] <MrTT> to equip the company
  588. [2011-12-30 01:25:46] <MrTT> Armas himself should focus on killing things... "combat charms" works
  589. [2011-12-30 01:25:49] <Guile> once we know it, we can teach them
  590. [2011-12-30 01:25:53] <MrTT> no we can't
  591. [2011-12-30 01:25:55] <MrTT> we are shit teacher
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  593. [2011-12-30 01:25:57] <MrTT> and bad at learning
  594. [2011-12-30 01:26:14] <Guile> but we'll be learning it in the slow-child 'do this, this and this and you get this' method
  595. [2011-12-30 01:26:17] <kendle> Funny thing how Armas' two worst skills are the rarest ones to fix or improve magically.
  596. [2011-12-30 01:26:23] <Guile> not organic or versatile
  597. [2011-12-30 01:26:32] <Ironybot> There are ways around that. An asset this valuable should not be invested in someone other than Armas himself.
  598. [2011-12-30 01:26:39] <Gunpowder_Symphony> ARMAS IS CHAMPION OF THE MAGIC SPECIAL OLYMPICS
  599. [2011-12-30 01:26:48] <BUTTZ> I think we should sit on the hours for the moment, anyway
  600. [2011-12-30 01:26:56] <Guile> gold medal winner. and then he steals the silver and bronze medals.
  601. [2011-12-30 01:27:04] <MrTT> Ironybot, while this is true. Armas has limits to his learning...
  602. [2011-12-30 01:27:06] <Gunpowder_Symphony> And tries to eat them.
  603. [2011-12-30 01:27:12] <Bob> 4and he eats the medals
  604. [2011-12-30 01:27:16] <Gunpowder_Symphony> HAHA
  605. [2011-12-30 01:27:17] <Bob> 4...right, that
  606. [2011-12-30 01:27:27] <MrTT> actually bob, you said armas cannot learn EVERYTHING... did you mean simultanously? because we went over the soul having infinite capacity for growth
  607. [2011-12-30 01:27:32] <Ironybot> Limits which can be pushed back or wriggled around in a variety of ways, some of which are under discussion.
  608. [2011-12-30 01:27:33] <kendle> I'd rather wait
  609. [2011-12-30 01:27:35] <MrTT> why can't armas learn everyhing with infinite time
  610. [2011-12-30 01:27:45] <kendle> If we can get the fundamentals down with maybe 5k hours we can shoot for that
  611. [2011-12-30 01:27:48] <Bob> 4I meant: over the length of the quest
  612. [2011-12-30 01:27:51] <MrTT> Oh
  613. [2011-12-30 01:27:53] <MrTT> ok
  614. [2011-12-30 01:28:19] <MrTT> so learning charm crafting does not "fill" armas' limited brainmeats... its just that we will not, over the quest, get to master everything
  615. [2011-12-30 01:28:39] <Bob> 4Be reasonable: You won't have time to fill your whole wish list, so always be able to disregard all but ONE that you support-and prefferably, so do at least two others.
  616. [2011-12-30 01:28:45] <kendle> Did we ever clear up the issue of them not being obligated to give us credit for training from outside teachers?
  617. [2011-12-30 01:29:00] <NaiveOne> obviously to remedy this, we need to grow more brainmeats
  618. [2011-12-30 01:29:00] <Bob> 4nope
  619. [2011-12-30 01:29:08] <kendle> Welp
  620. [2011-12-30 01:29:09] <Bob> 4Boskops could help for that
  621. [2011-12-30 01:29:10] <MrTT> Yes bob, that is what I expected... I constantly refer back to "opportunity costs"... getting A means losing the opportunity to get B
  622. [2011-12-30 01:29:18] <kendle> Get on that shit gents
  623. [2011-12-30 01:29:49] <kendle> Because I bet the Russians could net us a couple thousand hours over the course of a month
  624. [2011-12-30 01:29:51] <Bob> 4average boskops IQ, near as we can tell, was about at our current cut-off for genius
  625. [2011-12-30 01:29:51] <MrTT> You know what... what if armas learned soul crafting to masterhood, then he soul crafted a soul utterly loyal to him that is naturally gifted only in charm making?
  626. [2011-12-30 01:29:56] <MrTT> and one only in bullet enchanting and..
  627. [2011-12-30 01:30:00] <Bob> 4and that was... hundred thousand years ago?
  628. [2011-12-30 01:30:16] <MrTT> holy shit the darkeneing lets armas respect, yes? Armas needs to learn how to use the darkenenig to respec himself into an excellent teacher and student
  629. [2011-12-30 01:31:11] <Bob> 4yeah, you just need to either get some form of training that will work for you on internal soul sculpting as an Imperial Winter Godling... or experiment on yourself.
  630. [2011-12-30 01:31:14] <Ironybot> Armas needs a lot of things. Learning how to not shred our own soul when making the most minute changes would be a good start, before we start warping ourselves into something awesome.
  631. [2011-12-30 01:31:25] <MrTT> No self experimentation
  632. [2011-12-30 01:31:50] <MrTT> I Was thinking that what we need to do... is locate someone else who has the darkeneing
  633. [2011-12-30 01:31:58] <MrTT> a previous holder of IT who got it and has training
  634. [2011-12-30 01:32:05] <Bob> 4and how will you find them?
  635. [2011-12-30 01:32:12] <Ironybot> There is no guarantee that any of them exist.
  636. [2011-12-30 01:32:16] <Gunpowder_Symphony> CRAIGSLIST
  637. [2011-12-30 01:32:42] <kendle> Can either ask Og
  638. [2011-12-30 01:32:43] <MrTT> I was thinking a bet or some other deal with rabbit... see, originally someone suggested having rabbit PERSONALLY teach us darkening... which I figured is gonna be expensive as all fuck
  639. [2011-12-30 01:32:45] <kendle> Or ask a prophet
  640. [2011-12-30 01:32:52] <NaiveOne> Craigslist seems the right solution
  641. [2011-12-30 01:32:58] <MrTT> so it makes more sense to deal with him for the name of a previous desciple of his that can teach us
  642. [2011-12-30 01:33:17] <MrTT> It also helps keep our darkening ability secret, since we are only dealing with rabbit who already knows
  643. [2011-12-30 01:33:23] <Gunpowder_Symphony> ...Or, even more hilarious, internet dating sites.
  644. [2011-12-30 01:33:44] <Ironybot> Internet dating sites in a world of bloodline users must be trippy as hell.
  645. [2011-12-30 01:33:47] <NaiveOne> I found my Bloodline at eBloodlne.com
  646. [2011-12-30 01:33:50] <MrTT> "I like long walks on the beach, and shooting myself with darkening bullets to aspect blank winter bloodlines"
  647. [2011-12-30 01:34:03] <Gunpowder_Symphony> "Want to pet my weasel?"
  648. [2011-12-30 01:34:06] <MrTT> BloodlinZ
  649. [2011-12-30 01:34:30] <Ironybot> All the more so because according to what Bob said about newbie bloodlines, they usually stabilize by having two new bloodline users pair off and start a family to try and make something lasting.
  650. [2011-12-30 01:34:39] <NaiveOne> must like: Mythology from all across the world
  651. [2011-12-30 01:34:44] <MrTT> I am not sure Og will know the identify of previous desciples of rabbit
  652. [2011-12-30 01:34:49] <MrTT> rabbit is pretty secretive
  653. [2011-12-30 01:35:05] <MrTT> og isn't all knowing, he doesn't know about romanov secrets
  654. [2011-12-30 01:35:22] <Guile> perfect, Gun. "Finn-Maori gentleman looking for a good time in Istanbul. Likes pina coladas and getting caught in the rain- and selling oneself on the streetcorners to American Gods."
  655. [2011-12-30 01:35:36] * Gunpowder_Symphony snickers.
  656. [2011-12-30 01:35:48] <Ironybot> I wonder how Ogrimir's knowledge of soul magic compares to Amen's.
  657. [2011-12-30 01:35:48] <MrTT> ironybot... that argument is so good that i makes me think that maybe there IS a bloodline dating service
  658. [2011-12-30 01:36:24] <Gunpowder_Symphony> And now, time for the sleep thing. Night all.
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  660. [2011-12-30 01:36:35] <Bob> 4Ogrimir.... hm. I would say it would be very hard to call it, as both have sufficient capacity to slay the other
  661. [2011-12-30 01:36:40] <Guile> we dont really trust him any more than Amen, or we shouldnt
  662. [2011-12-30 01:37:03] <MrTT> Speaking of Og... I was tihnking maybe we got sidetracked by a red herring... Are we sure Og is actually from the same mythology as Odin?
  663. [2011-12-30 01:37:21] <BUTTZ> I'm sure there are matchmakers that are bloodline-specialists
  664. [2011-12-30 01:37:26] <MrTT> Gods of different mythos constantly interact with each other
  665. [2011-12-30 01:37:28] <BUTTZ> But a modern-style dating service?
  666. [2011-12-30 01:37:31] <Bob> 4Buttz indeed there are.
  667. [2011-12-30 01:37:38] <Bob> 4bloodline matchmakers, that is
  668. [2011-12-30 01:37:43] <Bob> 4no internet version
  669. [2011-12-30 01:37:45] <Bob> 4yet
  670. [2011-12-30 01:37:49] <Bob> 4Please do not start it
  671. [2011-12-30 01:37:51] <Bob> 4don't
  672. [2011-12-30 01:37:56] <BUTTZ> Haha
  673. [2011-12-30 01:38:03] <BUTTZ> Yeah it would be a hell of a lot of trouble
  674. [2011-12-30 01:38:04] <MrTT> lol
  675. [2011-12-30 01:38:09] <Bob> 4that'd be really lame unless you put serious effort into it and had the connections to make it work
  676. [2011-12-30 01:38:10] <PriceisMagic> We wont
  677. [2011-12-30 01:38:12] <PriceisMagic> Amen will
  678. [2011-12-30 01:38:15] <Bob> 4and that won't be for.... forever.
  679. [2011-12-30 01:38:22] <Bob> 4Amen cannot internet
  680. [2011-12-30 01:38:23] <MrTT> Aww common bob... I bet cupid runs a modern style dating service
  681. [2011-12-30 01:38:30] <MrTT> actually... we shouldn'
  682. [2011-12-30 01:38:42] <MrTT> we shoudn't start it personally... we should find a love god to do so
  683. [2011-12-30 01:38:43] <BUTTZ> Amen can intranet though
  684. [2011-12-30 01:38:48] <MrTT> like, convince cupid to make one
  685. [2011-12-30 01:39:03] <Guile> *imagining an old bloodline specifically for use in bloodline matchmaking*
  686. [2011-12-30 01:39:24] <Guile> Like, can just look at a pair and see if the kids would be a good match
  687. [2011-12-30 01:39:28] <MrTT> oooh... use manipulation to make each of the competing matchmaker services that their competitors are going into the internet
  688. [2011-12-30 01:39:39] <MrTT> and that it will be a huge success... and they must go there too to compete
  689. [2011-12-30 01:39:39] <Ironybot> We might be able to half-ass it if we got the full suite of seer upgrades.
  690. [2011-12-30 01:39:55] <Ironybot> Prophecy fragment+Whaitiri seer/prophet boosts.
  691. [2011-12-30 01:40:57] <Ironybot> Somehow specialize in predicting events that have to do with people or interpersonal relationships, and we should be able to scrape up enough power to seer up partners for those who come asking.
  692. [2011-12-30 01:41:09] <MrTT> you know, considering how much hilevi likes the idea of making someone her serf, I cannot help but notice there were no serfs on the valkonen estate... but they are remarkable well connected in the outside world... do they asctually HAVE a bunch of serfs that are spread out all over the world, working to advance valkonen interests?
  693. [2011-12-30 01:41:36] <Ironybot> At a wild guess, they used to and they don't anymore.
  694. [2011-12-30 01:41:41] <MrTT> I really don't think armas should personally do such a thing ironybot... it would end badly. I think we should juse manipulate an expert to branch out into the WWW
  695. [2011-12-30 01:41:44] <AlratanMobile> Even without specialisation, if we combine seer eyes plus prophets tongue plus a prophecy fragment
  696. [2011-12-30 01:42:11] <AlratanMobile> plus having the world eye available
  697. [2011-12-30 01:42:14] <BUTTZ> MrTT what would you call the peasants that herded the cattle-things?
  698. [2011-12-30 01:42:25] <BUTTZ> The big blonde dudes, the Hir or whatever they were called
  699. [2011-12-30 01:43:02] <AlratanMobile> Vedt?
  700. [2011-12-30 01:43:04] <MrTT> huh?
  701. [2011-12-30 01:43:08] <MrTT> who? what?
  702. [2011-12-30 01:43:11] <MrTT> where?
  703. [2011-12-30 01:43:19] <BUTTZ> Yeah them
  704. [2011-12-30 01:43:21] <Arkeus> right, up to date
  705. [2011-12-30 01:43:26] <BUTTZ> Al's got it I think
  706. [2011-12-30 01:43:41] <BUTTZ> They lived on the Valkonen lands and were herders
  707. [2011-12-30 01:43:43] <BUTTZ> are
  708. [2011-12-30 01:43:44] <Arkeus> So... Apparently Camella is Rich now?
  709. [2011-12-30 01:43:57] <BUTTZ> Camella's not driven by wealth generation like we are
  710. [2011-12-30 01:43:58] <Arkeus> Also, she seems to be 'humoring' us, mmh.
  711. [2011-12-30 01:44:01] <PriceisMagic> How?
  712. [2011-12-30 01:44:03] <BUTTZ> Different Priorities
  713. [2011-12-30 01:44:10] <Arkeus> Did we look at her Axes to check if they have anything special?
  714. [2011-12-30 01:44:53] <Guile> she didnt have em with, I dont think
  715. [2011-12-30 01:44:55] <Arkeus> Also, Bob, i am disappointed you didn't use the real reason to learn Trapmaking
  716. [2011-12-30 01:44:58] <AlratanMobile> We need to make her executive officer
  717. [2011-12-30 01:45:04] <Guile> she might have brought over her old special ops gear
  718. [2011-12-30 01:45:06] <Arkeus> A.k.A: Traps are for trolling, right?N
  719. [2011-12-30 01:45:18] <AlratanMobile> And have her do all the admin
  720. [2011-12-30 01:45:48] <AlratanMobile> So, what do we need before we use the Goblin training:
  721. [2011-12-30 01:46:13] <AlratanMobile> Archery: mastery of shooting and soul perception
  722. [2011-12-30 01:46:44] <AlratanMobile> Charms: improved chakra skills and basic soul manipulation
  723. [2011-12-30 01:46:53] <BUTTZ> 1) Pick the scope of what we want to learn 2) Get hummingbro onboard with the idea of learning 3) Get Sometimes Merchant on board with the idea of letting hummingbro in gratis or for a small extra fee
  724. [2011-12-30 01:47:23] <BUTTZ> Charms are probably where we'll get the most bang for our teaching time, if we're careful and limit what we're studying
  725. [2011-12-30 01:47:30] <Arkeus> 4°) Have a chakra way to enhance learning in the narrow fields of what we want to learn
  726. [2011-12-30 01:47:38] <Arkeus> 5°) Have a soul manip way of the above
  727. [2011-12-30 01:47:39] <BUTTZ> Were you present for most of Bob's explanation on it?
  728. [2011-12-30 01:48:22] <Arkeus> 6°) Make sure Armas, too, can 'interest himself' in it (a.k.a, he sees it as trolling/hobby)
  729. [2011-12-30 01:48:26] <MrTT> ooh
  730. [2011-12-30 01:48:39] <MrTT> I wonder if lo fang knows a chakra technique for enhancing your ability to learn things
  731. [2011-12-30 01:48:45] <MrTT> what am i talking about... of COURSE lo fang knows
  732. [2011-12-30 01:49:04] <MrTT> he mastered like 72 styles
  733. [2011-12-30 01:49:21] <BUTTZ> Invented several mind-based styles
  734. [2011-12-30 01:49:23] <Ironybot> We have already been over that numerous times. It's the very first thing on our list to learn from him.
  735. [2011-12-30 01:50:31] <Arkeus> Yeah.
  736. [2011-12-30 01:50:39] <BUTTZ> "Teach me how to learn better, I've been a crappy student my entire life, I don't want to waste your time or mine"
  737. [2011-12-30 01:50:44] <AlratanMobile> To be honest, the first thing I'd ask Lo Fang for is for him to go over the very basics
  738. [2011-12-30 01:51:01] <Arkeus> We ARE going over the very basics with his disciples Alratan
  739. [2011-12-30 01:51:22] <AlratanMobile> The underlying commonalities that he has perceived between different styles and techniques
  740. [2011-12-30 01:51:23] <BUTTZ> Learning from it too
  741. [2011-12-30 01:51:48] <Ironybot> Going over underlying commonalities sounds like utterly critical information that we should really have learning boosts in place before getting down.
  742. [2011-12-30 01:52:16] <Arkeus> Underlying commonalities seems more like 'extremely advanced' and not 'basis'
  743. [2011-12-30 01:52:25] <Ironybot> Armas can idiot-savant learning any given chakra orientation, so it's not that big of a deal to pick one up.
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  745. [2011-12-30 01:52:37] <MrTT> "I wipe the drool from my chin as I carefully consider: "
  746. [2011-12-30 01:52:43] <MrTT> lol at armas drolling in greed
  747. [2011-12-30 01:52:48] <Arkeus> The problem is for learning how to use the new one he picked well, though
  748. [2011-12-30 01:52:58] <AlratanMobile> It depends on whether you're trying to learn something as a system or as a set of random interconnected facts
  749. [2011-12-30 01:53:24] <AlratanMobile> If you're doing the former you want to start with common principles
  750. [2011-12-30 01:53:38] <Arkeus> What i am saying Alratan is it seems to me in order to be able to see the 'underlying commonalities' we'd need to be extremely advanced already
  751. [2011-12-30 01:53:47] <Arkeus> Or we won't get it at all
  752. [2011-12-30 01:53:54] <Ironybot> Normally I would agree with you, but Armas' mind and talents make his optimal learning patterns HIGHLY nonstandard.
  753. [2011-12-30 01:53:56] <MrTT> once armas picked up the learning booster technique, he will be more suited to understanding how it works
  754. [2011-12-30 01:54:08] <Arkeus> Also, you are talking about getting it the scholar way- Armas isn't a scholar. He will learn BADLY that way.
  755. [2011-12-30 01:54:26] <MrTT> agred on all points ark
  756. [2011-12-30 01:55:01] <MrTT> I just had a vision... we decide to experiment on mental boostings and fry armas' brain
  757. [2011-12-30 01:55:03] <MrTT> BOOM
  758. [2011-12-30 01:55:04] <Arkeus> If Armas has to pore days on a list of 'commonalities', it will take him months instead of days.
  759. [2011-12-30 01:55:08] <MrTT> smoke comes out of his ears
  760. [2011-12-30 01:55:12] <MrTT> and brain bits
  761. [2011-12-30 01:55:22] <AlratanMobile> It's not neccessarily a list
  762. [2011-12-30 01:55:29] <Arkeus> Oh, btw, Armas must ALWAYS have IT wit hhim. Especially when we are dead
  763. [2011-12-30 01:55:30] <AlratanMobile> Or theory
  764. [2011-12-30 01:56:03] <AlratanMobile> It'd have to be practical exercises of common chakra manipulations
  765. [2011-12-30 01:56:26] <MrTT> Figuring out the commonalities that tie together different styles is basically "true master ascension"... when someone has mastered many styles and figures out the underlying truth of it all that ties them together to go into styleless mastery where he can just do what he needs when he needs it
  766. [2011-12-30 01:56:35] <MrTT> this is not the basics but the most advanced thing you can do
  767. [2011-12-30 01:56:44] <Bob> 4Just to clear something up
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  769. [2011-12-30 01:56:48] <MrTT> the basics are what go ping is teaching us right now
  770. [2011-12-30 01:56:57] <AlratanMobile> Not really
  771. [2011-12-30 01:56:58] <Bob> 4Armas is far easier to transport through SB's shadows than Iron Trick
  772. [2011-12-30 01:57:06] <Bob> 4and the Mere will be, once made an Artifact
  773. [2011-12-30 01:57:08] <BUTTZ> Hahaha
  774. [2011-12-30 01:57:13] <AlratanMobile> What about Silja?
  775. [2011-12-30 01:57:14] <Arkeus> Obviously.
  776. [2011-12-30 01:57:19] <Bob> 4Silja is actually fine
  777. [2011-12-30 01:57:26] <MrTT> A silja is fine too!
  778. [2011-12-30 01:57:33] <Arkeus> <_<
  779. [2011-12-30 01:57:59] <Ironybot> Hummingbird is also fine?
  780. [2011-12-30 01:58:08] <Bob> 4Her soul is not massive, nor is the magical energy she commands-it's her cage that's important but she classifies as an entity, and as such, her difficulty of transport is based on her soul and magic-which is dickall.
  781. [2011-12-30 01:58:09] <BUTTZ> Iron Trick is one of the hardest things to transport via shadowporting, isn't it?
  782. [2011-12-30 01:58:21] <Bob> 4you could spam shadowport her all day, actually
  783. [2011-12-30 01:58:25] <Bob> 4SB wouldn't even feel it
  784. [2011-12-30 01:58:29] <AlratanMobile> I had an idea for a Ta Moko charm. Link it to the mere so that when not in use it dissolves into the scarification lines
  785. [2011-12-30 01:58:31] <BUTTZ> She would probably not like that
  786. [2011-12-30 01:58:44] <BUTTZ> "Arma why are you moving me around again? Stop that!"
  787. [2011-12-30 01:58:49] <Bob> 4Iron Trick is one of the harder things to move via teleportation, yes.
  788. [2011-12-30 01:59:01] <Bob> 4wipe blood on her
  789. [2011-12-30 01:59:03] <Bob> 4give her eyes
  790. [2011-12-30 01:59:09] <Bob> 4let her see-send her through the dark
  791. [2011-12-30 01:59:11] <AlratanMobile> Can SB open temporary shadow portals. So we could attack someone through it
  792. [2011-12-30 01:59:11] <Bob> 4ask her what she saw
  793. [2011-12-30 01:59:13] <Bob> 4she gibbers
  794. [2011-12-30 01:59:23] <Arkeus> Mmmh, Would it be 'easier' fo SB to shadowport things using something like that indestructible shadow we could have gotten from the Auction?
  795. [2011-12-30 01:59:24] <BUTTZ> Yeah we're not going to do that to her
  796. [2011-12-30 02:00:06] <Bob> 4Alratan: yes, but sustained portals like that are much more costly than trigger based ones, where something is just moved, that's it.
  797. [2011-12-30 02:00:49] <Bob> 4Actually, if SB had an indestructible shadow-one that would persist in light, and Iron Trick's higher level shadow pinning couldn't hurt-then yeah, he could use it as a shadowporting ability magnifies
  798. [2011-12-30 02:00:55] <Bob> 4magnifier
  799. [2011-12-30 02:01:35] <AlratanMobile> So a paired ranged attack, where we first cut ten underneath their clothes and then whack the cut with her stock is still out of reach?
  800. [2011-12-30 02:01:44] <Arkeus> "Higher Level"? you mean now that Armas is a godling?
  801. [2011-12-30 02:02:08] <Bob> 4no, I mean what you used on Gleb
  802. [2011-12-30 02:02:15] <Bob> 4that you don't know how to replicate properly
  803. [2011-12-30 02:02:16] <Bob> 4yet
  804. [2011-12-30 02:02:18] <Arkeus> :-(
  805. [2011-12-30 02:02:56] <Arkeus> Also, can you answer now about how freaking rare Dual Bloodlines Godlings are?
  806. [2011-12-30 02:03:04] <Bob> 4Hm.
  807. [2011-12-30 02:03:05] <Arkeus> And SB isn't a godling right?
  808. [2011-12-30 02:03:24] <Bob> 4Less than four hundred dual godlings
  809. [2011-12-30 02:03:29] <Ironybot> At a guess, dual bloodline godlings are roughly as rare as (godling rarity)*(duel bloodline rarity).
  810. [2011-12-30 02:03:48] <Bob> 4They get poached a weeee bit.
  811. [2011-12-30 02:03:57] <Arkeus> Wow, there are a lot more godlings than i expected
  812. [2011-12-30 02:03:57] <BUTTZ> How many dual bloodline cannibal godlings
  813. [2011-12-30 02:03:58] <Bob> 4they are so handy for a bunch of Draconic magic.
  814. [2011-12-30 02:04:04] <Arkeus> 'pached'?
  815. [2011-12-30 02:04:10] <Arkeus> 'Poached'?
  816. [2011-12-30 02:04:21] <Arkeus> in what sense? Also, how many Godlings? 5 thousands?
  817. [2011-12-30 02:04:30] <Bob> 4Godlings are actually kind of like the best ingredient ever for most Draconic higher order rituals. Dual bloodlines? The best of the best.
  818. [2011-12-30 02:04:41] <AlratanMobile> Can SB taint his Winter line with divinity?
  819. [2011-12-30 02:04:47] <BUTTZ> Hey you saw how much food we had to put up to even start to match the amount of energy that the Redcaps would have gotten from eating Armas
  820. [2011-12-30 02:04:59] <Bob> 4humanity and that which their imagination fused, combined in one, sacrificed to the magics of the ones that ultimately taught their kind magic?
  821. [2011-12-30 02:05:12] <Bob> 4SB is not a Godling Shadow-he's HAPPY with that
  822. [2011-12-30 02:05:20] <Bob> 4Draconic shadows would tear his ass up
  823. [2011-12-30 02:05:23] <Arkeus> Too much Attention?
  824. [2011-12-30 02:05:31] <Ironybot> It appears that dragons will want to use Armas as a ritual ingredient for the rest of his life. How annoying.
  825. [2011-12-30 02:05:45] <Arkeus> Armas can sell body parts!
  826. [2011-12-30 02:05:50] <Arkeus> <_<
  827. [2011-12-30 02:05:52] <Ironybot> Unless we can ditch godling status and go full-on god, or otherwise change to something else, anyway.
  828. [2011-12-30 02:06:03] <AlratanMobile> How can we be a godling when part of our soul and the magic our greater self uses is not divine?
  829. [2011-12-30 02:06:28] <Ironybot> What of our magics aren't divine?
  830. [2011-12-30 02:06:31] <Bob> 4because everything-your soul, and both bloodlines-are tainted with Divine magic
  831. [2011-12-30 02:06:46] <AlratanMobile> As fundamentally, we and SB are the same person, sharing one soul
  832. [2011-12-30 02:07:09] <BUTTZ> Nah man
  833. [2011-12-30 02:07:11] <AlratanMobile> If SB's winter magic is not divine, not all our soul is tainted with divine magic
  834. [2011-12-30 02:07:12] <BUTTZ> We're not
  835. [2011-12-30 02:07:17] <Bob> 4you are a Split Soul. Remember, that was a pretty big deal that you made SB
  836. [2011-12-30 02:07:20] <Guile> we might be able to hide it if we actually understood how Darkening worked. Maybe not.
  837. [2011-12-30 02:07:33] <Bob> 4Darkening could hide it
  838. [2011-12-30 02:07:59] <Ironybot> We really need to get Darkening up and running. We have so very much to hide.
  839. [2011-12-30 02:08:00] <BUTTZ> We need to get some real training in how this soul sculpting stuff works
  840. [2011-12-30 02:08:04] <AlratanMobile> So, if we merged with SB, we'd stop being a godling?
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  842. [2011-12-30 02:08:05] <Arkeus> It should be not that hard to hid if, you know, we could use Darkening without self-sculpting
  843. [2011-12-30 02:08:06] <Arkeus> :-(
  844. [2011-12-30 02:08:10] <Bob> 4you could make yourself 'the godling with the unknown bloodline who sometimes looks in every way like whatever the fuck he wants'
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  846. [2011-12-30 02:08:34] <BUTTZ> The Sami owe us a favor, we should invite a couple of them over.
  847. [2011-12-30 02:08:36] <Arkeus> Bob: is our summer bloodline 'known'?
  848. [2011-12-30 02:08:40] <Bob> 4if you merged with SB, you'd stop being a godling.
  849. [2011-12-30 02:08:57] <Bob> 4It's no known beyond 'regeneration of some sort is in his power set'
  850. [2011-12-30 02:09:11] <Bob> 4SB may object to such a thing though
  851. [2011-12-30 02:09:18] <Bob> 4a permanent merging, as this suggests
  852. [2011-12-30 02:09:21] <Arkeus> Bob: wouldn't that make SB/Armas line Godling too? imean permanent merging.
  853. [2011-12-30 02:10:02] <Arkeus> bob: i meant "a bloodline that already exists", not "people knows that Armas Laine has it". Sorry, it was unclear.
  854. [2011-12-30 02:10:11] <Bob> 4no, because remerging split souls layers a soul, in that one of the two exists in the mortal plane, the other the NN-and the two can switch, are always tethered, symbiotic twins, sort of.
  855. [2011-12-30 02:10:20] <Bob> 4I apologize that my coherency is a bit low right now.
  856. [2011-12-30 02:10:32] <Bob> 4I may have cockily underestimated a weed I was warned about.
  857. [2011-12-30 02:10:33] <Arkeus> Ah, so it wouldn't merge the bloodlines
  858. [2011-12-30 02:10:38] <Bob> 4And... smoked nine bowls.
  859. [2011-12-30 02:10:40] <Bob> 4...wait.
  860. [2011-12-30 02:10:42] <Bob> 4No, ten.
  861. [2011-12-30 02:10:43] <Arkeus> We would somehjow have 2 summer bloodlines and two winter ones?
  862. [2011-12-30 02:10:52] <Bob> 4yes
  863. [2011-12-30 02:11:29] <Arkeus> Oh right, i really wanted to know- how can SB uses the summer bloodline, if it's fleshcrafting based?
  864. [2011-12-30 02:11:31] <Guile> surely this would not be a problem, ever
  865. [2011-12-30 02:11:39] <Bob> 4remerging a split soul is one of the few nondraconic ways to get more than two bloodlines-but it's limited in application, and has MASSIVE failure rates due to sanity corrosion. It takes a phenomenal mind to handle reharmonizing.
  866. [2011-12-30 02:11:44] <Guile> from, say, dragons who like dual-bloodline people
  867. [2011-12-30 02:12:00] <Guile> or OUR mind. Can't break what's already cracked?
  868. [2011-12-30 02:12:08] <Bob> 4Ah....
  869. [2011-12-30 02:12:08] <Ironybot> Our mind would shatter from that.
  870. [2011-12-30 02:12:09] <BUTTZ> Sure you can Guile
  871. [2011-12-30 02:12:09] <Bob> 4no.
  872. [2011-12-30 02:12:10] <Arkeus> Guile: probably less than from dragons who like Quadruple bloodlines godlings
  873. [2011-12-30 02:12:11] <Bob> 4No no no
  874. [2011-12-30 02:12:12] <Arkeus> OM NOM NOM
  875. [2011-12-30 02:12:14] <Bob> 4NOPE
  876. [2011-12-30 02:12:20] <Arkeus> (would need to make SB's line be Dogling, though)
  877. [2011-12-30 02:12:21] <BUTTZ> You can turn a cracked vessel into complete dust
  878. [2011-12-30 02:12:43] <kendle> Armas does have a phenomenal mind though, not exactly phenomenal in a good way
  879. [2011-12-30 02:12:45] <AlratanMobile> We need to extend out healing into the mental sphere
  880. [2011-12-30 02:12:49] <kendle> But phenomenal
  881. [2011-12-30 02:13:01] <Arkeus> I expect Armas would need M,R,G,D all at level 10+ in order to merge back
  882. [2011-12-30 02:13:06] <Guile> phenomenal like a car wreck
  883. [2011-12-30 02:13:11] <BUTTZ> I'll agree to the nominal part
  884. [2011-12-30 02:13:14] <Ironybot> How would D help?
  885. [2011-12-30 02:13:26] <Arkeus> Synergy, mostly, i think
  886. [2011-12-30 02:13:31] <Arkeus> It is a mental trait
  887. [2011-12-30 02:13:31] <kendle> I'd guess freaking the fuck out during the procedure would suck
  888. [2011-12-30 02:13:37] <Bob> 4SB can use the SUmmer line to regenerate, as a shadow, much more swiftly than he should, given he's derived from a human, which is a weaksauce start, if they're baseline human. No power, no innate magic, no regen, nothing.
  889. [2011-12-30 02:13:40] <kendle> But franky I'm not even considering this as an option
  890. [2011-12-30 02:13:59] <kendle> Shadowbro is far too value as a separate entity
  891. [2011-12-30 02:14:14] <BUTTZ> Shadowbro has more than once saved Armas from himself
  892. [2011-12-30 02:14:25] <Arkeus> bob: nothing else he could learn from it? like, i don't know, shadowcrafting?
  893. [2011-12-30 02:14:41] <Arkeus> SB is GREAT as a separate entity, yeah
  894. [2011-12-30 02:14:45] <Bob> 4learn from the summer line you mean?
  895. [2011-12-30 02:14:56] <AlratanMobile> If they're remerged, then SB can still save Armas from himself
  896. [2011-12-30 02:15:00] <Arkeus> Yeah, nothing he could learn to do with it.
  897. [2011-12-30 02:15:07] <Bob> 4no he can't
  898. [2011-12-30 02:15:11] <Bob> 4there would be no armas
  899. [2011-12-30 02:15:12] <Bob> 4no SB
  900. [2011-12-30 02:15:17] <Bob> 4just the new mind that exists
  901. [2011-12-30 02:15:20] <Bob> 4whatever shape it has
  902. [2011-12-30 02:15:21] <Arkeus> Just InsaneOne
  903. [2011-12-30 02:15:28] <BUTTZ> The Mad Laine
  904. [2011-12-30 02:15:35] <AlratanMobile> As the new mind would already have SB's good sense as a conponen
  905. [2011-12-30 02:15:36] <Ironybot> If we wanted to try remerging, my preference would be to try and do it under some kind of highly controlled conditions- maybe spend a subjective decade or so slowly reintegrating in a timeless nevernever bubble. That might help a bit. We could further stack the deck with charms, luck, and competent Mind manipulators actively overseeing the process and trying to keep us from breaking.
  906. [2011-12-30 02:16:01] <Bob> 4An insane quadruple bloodline imperial godling.... yeah.... good BBEG right there.
  907. [2011-12-30 02:16:09] <Arkeus> Bob: How much drooling would Dragons/others have at a // right
  908. [2011-12-30 02:16:10] <AlratanMobile> A Border manipulator if we could manage it
  909. [2011-12-30 02:16:14] <Arkeus> sorry
  910. [2011-12-30 02:16:24] <Arkeus> Bob: How much drooling would Dragons/others have at a quadruple godling?
  911. [2011-12-30 02:16:28] <AlratanMobile> We'd just have to not go insane
  912. [2011-12-30 02:16:49] <AlratanMobile> Then we wouldn't need to be a BBEG
  913. [2011-12-30 02:16:59] <BUTTZ> Al you're talking like you could keep a fine lead crystal wineglass intact while turning it into a mixed media project by gluing rocks to it, while doing so blind and with only a 300 psi grippy to let you manipulate the objects blind while you try to make them into something new.
  914. [2011-12-30 02:17:09] <BUTTZ> Impossible
  915. [2011-12-30 02:17:47] <Bob> 4There's a 30% chance Camella could do it given her rolling.
  916. [2011-12-30 02:17:57] <Guile> "I know I'm not crazy because I tell myself over and over 'Dont be crazy'! Right Shadowbro? Right Shadowbro? Shadowbro says yes."
  917. [2011-12-30 02:18:05] <Arkeus> She would need a Soul's shadow first
  918. [2011-12-30 02:18:08] <Arkeus> Mmmmh, project
  919. [2011-12-30 02:18:17] <Arkeus> ShadowSis
  920. [2011-12-30 02:18:20] <AlratanMobile> Hence IronyBot's suggestion of using a skilled mind manipulator to oversee the process
  921. [2011-12-30 02:18:32] <Arkeus> lol Guile
  922. [2011-12-30 02:19:01] <AlratanMobile> She just needs to spend a lifetime learning goblin stealth
  923. [2011-12-30 02:19:04] <Bob> 4Camella could handle the attempt better than anyone else you know. Einrik's a close second. Markku's actually not too high on the list. Name someone, I'll rank them.
  924. [2011-12-30 02:19:16] <Bob> 4Split Soul Refusion Ranking Time is GO
  925. [2011-12-30 02:19:22] <BUTTZ> So what you're saying is we should help Camella get a soul shadow
  926. [2011-12-30 02:19:23] <AlratanMobile> Dooney
  927. [2011-12-30 02:19:33] <Arkeus> Sometimes Merchant
  928. [2011-12-30 02:19:34] <BUTTZ> Sometimes Merchant!
  929. [2011-12-30 02:19:36] <PriceisMagic> The Indian man?
  930. [2011-12-30 02:19:42] <Bob> 4Dooney would do pretty well, given it's a single bloodliner.
  931. [2011-12-30 02:19:47] <AlratanMobile> If she wants to, she can invest time and resources in it herself
  932. [2011-12-30 02:19:48] <Bob> 4A bit higher than Markku
  933. [2011-12-30 02:19:49] <PriceisMagic> Or is it some one we know
  934. [2011-12-30 02:19:50] <Bob> 4not amazing though
  935. [2011-12-30 02:19:59] <Guile> ... Amen?
  936. [2011-12-30 02:20:01] <Bob> 4SM has done it.
  937. [2011-12-30 02:20:05] <Arkeus> i knew it
  938. [2011-12-30 02:20:07] <Arkeus> :-)
  939. [2011-12-30 02:20:08] <Bob> 4Amen can't-it is it's own shadow.
  940. [2011-12-30 02:20:09] <BUTTZ> Ha ha that explains a lot
  941. [2011-12-30 02:20:10] <AlratanMobile> The Redcaps
  942. [2011-12-30 02:20:28] <Ironybot> Is there anything stopping Sometimes Merchant from doing it again?
  943. [2011-12-30 02:20:32] <BUTTZ> Yellow Emperor?
  944. [2011-12-30 02:20:33] <Bob> 4Redcaps eat their own shadow-trying to grow a split soul in it would be... difficult to accomplish.
  945. [2011-12-30 02:20:49] <Bob> 4and they eat it habitually-it's what they consume while they sleep/recover
  946. [2011-12-30 02:20:54] <Arkeus> Lo Fang
  947. [2011-12-30 02:21:40] <Bob> 4Ironybot: yes, because trying to twist Recursion past the first layer, when it comes to souls like that-is that not a single entity has ever been known to succeed
  948. [2011-12-30 02:21:48] <Bob> 4SM ain't gonna be some pioneer brave asshole
  949. [2011-12-30 02:21:50] <Bob> 4he'll wait
  950. [2011-12-30 02:21:53] <Bob> 4no rush
  951. [2011-12-30 02:22:05] <Arkeus> ;-)
  952. [2011-12-30 02:22:05] <BUTTZ> Hey how would the success rate look if it were reversed? SB taking over Armas?
  953. [2011-12-30 02:22:24] <AlratanMobile> Why have one takeover the other?
  954. [2011-12-30 02:22:25] <Ironybot> Taking over? You mean, putting both souls into the shadow instead of the flesh?
  955. [2011-12-30 02:22:26] <Bob> 4The Strongest Mortal/Indian dude: actually did it with his single bloodline, and is a fundamental part of why he's so fucking strong.
  956. [2011-12-30 02:22:33] <BUTTZ> Yeah that's what I mean Irony
  957. [2011-12-30 02:22:38] <AlratanMobile> Harmonious merger is what we want
  958. [2011-12-30 02:22:40] <Bob> 4Yellow Emperor: no longer eligible as an outright god
  959. [2011-12-30 02:23:07] <BUTTZ> Yellow Emperor just before he became inelligible then
  960. [2011-12-30 02:23:13] <Bob> 4any others you want to see ranked/hear if they might have done it.
  961. [2011-12-30 02:23:14] <Guile> Armas/SB becomes an insane Shadowfiend instead of an insane Godling
  962. [2011-12-30 02:23:16] <Ironybot> The Smiling One.
  963. [2011-12-30 02:23:18] <AlratanMobile> If someone who has remerged with a split soul ascends to godhood
  964. [2011-12-30 02:23:36] <Ironybot> Or is she also too divine?
  965. [2011-12-30 02:23:39] <AlratanMobile> Do they retain the effects?
  966. [2011-12-30 02:23:43] <Guile> HUMMINGBIRD
  967. [2011-12-30 02:23:46] <MrTT> So... remember when the idea of becoming a resurrector would get us poached by dragons?
  968. [2011-12-30 02:23:49] <Arkeus> HUMMINGBIRD
  969. [2011-12-30 02:23:52] <Bob> 4Smiling One: actually would not do that well. She keeps spirits in her dreams, her brain, her eyes, her teeth and her stomach
  970. [2011-12-30 02:23:53] <MrTT> seems dual bloodline godling does also
  971. [2011-12-30 02:23:59] <MrTT> Actually a fuckton of things gets you poached
  972. [2011-12-30 02:24:00] <Bob> 4the ones in dream and mind would skew things
  973. [2011-12-30 02:24:03] <MrTT> item bloodline in of itself
  974. [2011-12-30 02:24:14] <Bob> 4the spirits, incidentally, are not spirit animals
  975. [2011-12-30 02:24:26] <Bob> 4they're ghosts of other youkai she consumed
  976. [2011-12-30 02:24:29] <Bob> 4and buried in her flesh
  977. [2011-12-30 02:24:29] <Arkeus> bob: how many quadruple godlings are there, worldwide?
  978. [2011-12-30 02:24:34] <Guile> being too interesting gets you poached
  979. [2011-12-30 02:24:38] <Ironybot> Wild guess: Zero.
  980. [2011-12-30 02:24:39] <MrTT> AHA! I knew something like that was possible
  981. [2011-12-30 02:24:49] <Bob> 4There are currently none known of to any information circuit.
  982. [2011-12-30 02:24:56] <Arkeus> hehehe
  983. [2011-12-30 02:24:59] <MrTT> keep intact spirits... not "eat them" eat them... but keep them intact seperate entities imprisoned and siphoned power from
  984. [2011-12-30 02:25:09] <MrTT> actually.. I tihnk our eye demiplane should be used to imprison spirits
  985. [2011-12-30 02:25:10] <Bob> 4that is also wrong
  986. [2011-12-30 02:25:11] <AlratanMobile> We would have to keep Darkening active full time
  987. [2011-12-30 02:25:13] <MrTT> to siphon power from
  988. [2011-12-30 02:25:14] <Guile> yeah, thats just what Armas needs
  989. [2011-12-30 02:25:24] <Arkeus> I am thinking the mometn Armas becomes one nad is known to be one, he becomes the next God Slut
  990. [2011-12-30 02:25:33] <Bob> 4she's turning her body into a physically existing demiplane of warped space that is a massive symbiotic monster hive
  991. [2011-12-30 02:25:37] <Arkeus> Was Jesus a Quadruple Bloodline Godling?
  992. [2011-12-30 02:25:41] <Bob> 4that's actually amazingly fucked up, I'd say.
  993. [2011-12-30 02:25:49] <MrTT> what is that about slutting?
  994. [2011-12-30 02:26:06] <Guile> No, pretty sure he was a God-become-Mortal, not the other way around
  995. [2011-12-30 02:26:17] <Arkeus> Guile: he was a godling became god became mortal
  996. [2011-12-30 02:26:20] <Arkeus> when judas killed him
  997. [2011-12-30 02:26:27] <Arkeus> 'yay, stipped of power, idiot'
  998. [2011-12-30 02:26:29] <Bob> 4Jesus was 'Best ever vessel to posses the world's ever seen, or will see again.'
  999. [2011-12-30 02:26:30] <Arkeus> stripped
  1000. [2011-12-30 02:26:36] <Bob> 4Guy was like every god's prophet.
  1001. [2011-12-30 02:26:40] <Bob> 4Name wasn't even Jesus
  1002. [2011-12-30 02:26:44] <Bob> 4forgot his own name by the end
  1003. [2011-12-30 02:26:50] <MrTT> So... experimenting got us burned... but armas did invent techniques... in combat! He spontanously learned how to do chakra hardening in combat, and hybrid healing... Ridiculously hard thing to learn that just happened due to the situation... we should combat more
  1004. [2011-12-30 02:26:50] <Bob> 4he was whoever the gods needed him to be
  1005. [2011-12-30 02:26:52] <Guile> nice
  1006. [2011-12-30 02:27:40] <Arkeus> Armas didn't "experiment" in combat, he "concreticized"
  1007. [2011-12-30 02:27:46] <Guile> sure, if we got lucky those two times, obviously we should keep going full steam experimenting in the middle of fights. there is no downside to this plan.
  1008. [2011-12-30 02:27:49] <Arkeus> As in, he puts things together he already knew.
  1009. [2011-12-30 02:27:53] <Arkeus> It's quite a bit different.
  1010. [2011-12-30 02:27:54] <MrTT> Actually... Dragons are 4 seasons bloodlines. And we theorized they use mixed season stuff to boost their power. And armas learned hybrid healing after being struck by a dragon attack... could that attack have been a hybrid season attack which sparked the hybrid utilization we instinctively grasped?
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  1012. [2011-12-30 02:28:17] <Ironybot> I really don't think that we "instinctively grasped" shit.
  1013. [2011-12-30 02:28:27] <Arkeus> That's.. Actually possible. But i don't believe Dragons use mix season
  1014. [2011-12-30 02:28:32] <Arkeus> i think you are wrong about that.
  1015. [2011-12-30 02:28:33] <Bob> 4http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-06-09/flying-bear-kills-two-in-freak-accident/2751836
  1016. [2011-12-30 02:28:34] <MrTT> @Ark: I never said we experimented in combat. i said we learned in combat spontanously, from the fighting
  1017. [2011-12-30 02:28:48] <MrTT> wtf bob
  1018. [2011-12-30 02:29:07] <Arkeus> bob: you haven't Answered about Hummingbird
  1019. [2011-12-30 02:29:40] <Bob> 4The guy said 'This is really rare' about a double homicide flying bear suicide attack
  1020. [2011-12-30 02:29:42] <Bob> 4what
  1021. [2011-12-30 02:29:51] <BUTTZ> It's Canada
  1022. [2011-12-30 02:29:52] <Ironybot> Well, it is.
  1023. [2011-12-30 02:29:53] <Bob> 4how is that 'really rare' and not 'unprecedented'
  1024. [2011-12-30 02:30:12] <Bob> 4What about hummingbird?
  1025. [2011-12-30 02:30:14] <MrTT> he said deaths by hitting a bear are rare, while death by hitting deer are common
  1026. [2011-12-30 02:30:17] <Arkeus> bob: there is this guy, BlackBear, who specializes in Suicide Bear Attacks
  1027. [2011-12-30 02:30:31] <Arkeus> Bob: for split soul remerge
  1028. [2011-12-30 02:30:33] <BUTTZ> If hummingbird had a split soul how well could he re-harmonize with it?
  1029. [2011-12-30 02:30:38] <MrTT> hummingbird btw is pulling crazy techniques out of its ass just by sheer combat experience I think
  1030. [2011-12-30 02:30:53] <Arkeus> Nah, he is pulling them because he is a prodigy
  1031. [2011-12-30 02:30:59] <Arkeus> also, FUCK YOU I AM A HUMMINGBIRD
  1032. [2011-12-30 02:31:43] <MrTT> the hummingbird is tied to armas' soul, splitting, reharmonizing, things like that... they will affect armas and I think in a way that falls into experimenting with magic
  1033. [2011-12-30 02:31:51] <Bob> 4It would need a bloodline to be relevant to the scale
  1034. [2011-12-30 02:32:01] <Bob> 4and last I checked, Hummingbirds don't have bloodlines
  1035. [2011-12-30 02:32:04] <Bob> 4even the best of them
  1036. [2011-12-30 02:32:06] <Arkeus> Pfff
  1037. [2011-12-30 02:32:09] <BUTTZ> We should get him Darkening
  1038. [2011-12-30 02:32:14] <Arkeus> THAT ONE will spontanuously get one
  1039. [2011-12-30 02:32:19] <Arkeus> ARE YOU SAYING IT CAN'T :-(
  1040. [2011-12-30 02:32:23] <kendle> What about that hypothetical King of the Birds bloodline?
  1041. [2011-12-30 02:33:15] <Bob> 4I didn't say they CAN'T have a bloodline-just that none do. Sure you could attempt to make one-but no matter how you approach it, that's futsy soul and blood and flesh manipulation to be done all at once.
  1042. [2011-12-30 02:34:13] <Arkeus> Dammit, another Amen project :-(
  1043. [2011-12-30 02:34:30] <MrTT> i don't think we can risk it
  1044. [2011-12-30 02:34:31] <Arkeus> I GUESS we could use a OG question, possible :-(
  1045. [2011-12-30 02:34:35] <Arkeus> possibly
  1046. [2011-12-30 02:34:38] <BUTTZ> We should ask Amen for help with the self-torture just for the sick reaction
  1047. [2011-12-30 02:34:46] <Arkeus> :-(
  1048. [2011-12-30 02:34:50] <MrTT> we are NOT romancing amen
  1049. [2011-12-30 02:35:00] <BUTTZ> Nah nah, just asking
  1050. [2011-12-30 02:35:09] <Arkeus> Bbo already told us
  1051. [2011-12-30 02:35:10] <BUTTZ> It'd put any sane person off the idea entirely
  1052. [2011-12-30 02:35:12] <Arkeus> What he would say
  1053. [2011-12-30 02:35:24] <BUTTZ> Sure, but there're readers who don't hang out in here
  1054. [2011-12-30 02:35:39] <MrTT> ... and you want to share that... lets not.
  1055. [2011-12-30 02:36:08] <MrTT> right so on our list of things to learn
  1056. [2011-12-30 02:37:20] <MrTT> darkening, sami, romanov, internal soul sculpting, external soul sculpting, flesh manip, flushing winter energy, seeing our own soul,
  1057. [2011-12-30 02:37:31] <Arkeus> I am disappointed Armas didn't make a 'Welcome to the PMC Camella' Lunch
  1058. [2011-12-30 02:37:49] <Arkeus> The first three aren't seperate
  1059. [2011-12-30 02:37:55] <MrTT> oh, and hybrid uses of summer and winter nodes (something dragons should probably know about)
  1060. [2011-12-30 02:37:56] <Arkeus> Unless you are saing 'knoweldge of'
  1061. [2011-12-30 02:38:09] <Arkeus> Pretty usre Dragons don't know hybrid uses
  1062. [2011-12-30 02:38:14] <MrTT> the first three are seperate things. Armas has a hybrid of them.
  1063. [2011-12-30 02:38:37] <MrTT> armas cannot find a teacher for the hybrid, but if he gets taught the basics of each of the 3 a lot of it might apply to his own situation
  1064. [2011-12-30 02:38:46] <Arkeus> Which is quite different than any of them. He can learn 'of' them, unsure he can learn them.
  1065. [2011-12-30 02:38:48] <MrTT> and he might deduce the interactions better of the parts that don't
  1066. [2011-12-30 02:38:52] <Arkeus> Yeah
  1067. [2011-12-30 02:38:54] <MrTT> He can learn them
  1068. [2011-12-30 02:39:00] <MrTT> it just wouldn't apply 100% of the time
  1069. [2011-12-30 02:39:02] <Arkeus> OTOH, he can't learn Darkening or Romanov
  1070. [2011-12-30 02:39:07] <MrTT> sure he can
  1071. [2011-12-30 02:39:11] <Arkeus> He could, i guess, learn from lurk
  1072. [2011-12-30 02:39:13] <MrTT> he just doesn't have available teachers
  1073. [2011-12-30 02:39:22] <Arkeus> None exists, as far as we know
  1074. [2011-12-30 02:39:44] <MrTT> Actually people here suggested we get rabbit to teach us darkening... and i came up with the idea of getting rabbit to tell us on a surviving previous desciple of his that has darkeneing and getting that person to teach us
  1075. [2011-12-30 02:39:50] <Arkeus> Bob: would Romanov stop working in the medieval stint?
  1076. [2011-12-30 02:39:51] <MrTT> probably cheaper and more feasible
  1077. [2011-12-30 02:40:01] <MrTT> why would it do that?
  1078. [2011-12-30 02:40:16] <BUTTZ> Why would Romanov stop working in Warring States Era Japan?
  1079. [2011-12-30 02:40:17] <Arkeus> Because there wouldn't be Romanovs iirc?
  1080. [2011-12-30 02:40:22] <MrTT> so what?
  1081. [2011-12-30 02:40:25] <Arkeus> So no Belief?
  1082. [2011-12-30 02:40:28] <MrTT> Romanov is not divine
  1083. [2011-12-30 02:40:30] <Ironybot> The concept of using an Ogrimir question to learn how to create a warded training room so that we can self-experiment without risking self-harm was a good one. Or we could learn to make an amulet or something to do same.
  1084. [2011-12-30 02:40:35] <MrTT> it doesn't run on belief
  1085. [2011-12-30 02:40:36] <Arkeus> Also, we do know Romanov drains power from another source
  1086. [2011-12-30 02:40:39] <Arkeus> or is given power
  1087. [2011-12-30 02:40:39] <MrTT> also we don't have romanov
  1088. [2011-12-30 02:40:42] <Arkeus> And it might not be there
  1089. [2011-12-30 02:40:49] <MrTT> we have a romanov based compound bloodline
  1090. [2011-12-30 02:41:00] <Ironybot> Composite bloodline.
  1091. [2011-12-30 02:41:03] <MrTT> Well we mgiht lose the imperial aspect of the bloodline.. and even then I don't think we would
  1092. [2011-12-30 02:41:03] <BUTTZ> Ironybot that would just get Ogrimir telling us the right way to word having Amen do it for us
  1093. [2011-12-30 02:41:10] <Arkeus> Ironybot: i know, it just would need for us to ask the question i na precise enoug way
  1094. [2011-12-30 02:41:18] <BUTTZ> Unless we specified that we didn't want Amen involved at all I guess
  1095. [2011-12-30 02:41:21] <Arkeus> BUTTZ: isn't that good enough?
  1096. [2011-12-30 02:41:31] <MrTT> We have jadova's blood, right?
  1097. [2011-12-30 02:41:37] <Ironybot> Jidkova's? Yes.
  1098. [2011-12-30 02:41:47] <Arkeus> Can't really use it, but yes
  1099. [2011-12-30 02:41:49] <BUTTZ> We sold some of the rights associated with that to the goblins
  1100. [2011-12-30 02:41:53] <Arkeus> Yeah
  1101. [2011-12-30 02:42:02] <MrTT> we need to get one of the russians a copy of her bloodline. Then using armas flesh and soul manip and that persons blood manip together apply bloodlines as needed to the others
  1102. [2011-12-30 02:42:13] <Arkeus> lol MrTT...
  1103. [2011-12-30 02:42:22] <Ironybot> Are you suggesting that we order Amen to start installing bloodlines in our minions?
  1104. [2011-12-30 02:42:23] <MrTT> simple... incredibly HARD to do... but simple
  1105. [2011-12-30 02:42:27] <MrTT> Hell no
  1106. [2011-12-30 02:42:33] <MrTT> I want to avoid this
  1107. [2011-12-30 02:42:42] <Arkeus> then don't propose it
  1108. [2011-12-30 02:42:44] <MrTT> My plan is to have ARMAS instill bloodline
  1109. [2011-12-30 02:42:48] <Arkeus> lol
  1110. [2011-12-30 02:42:49] <MrTT> I didn't propose it arkeus
  1111. [2011-12-30 02:43:01] <MrTT> I proposed ARMAS and a blood mage NOT AMEN can do so
  1112. [2011-12-30 02:43:02] <Arkeus> Armas... Instill bloodlines...
  1113. [2011-12-30 02:43:16] <MrTT> it takes blood manip, flesh manip, and soul manip to instill a bloodline
  1114. [2011-12-30 02:43:21] <MrTT> Armas has 2 of the 3
  1115. [2011-12-30 02:43:25] <Ironybot> You proposed that we somehow MAKE one of the Russians a blood mage.
  1116. [2011-12-30 02:43:38] <MrTT> top class too... we just need to get someone else to be our bloodmage in that ceremony
  1117. [2011-12-30 02:43:45] <Ironybot> The only means of doing so that we have right now is Amen, to the best of my knowledge.
  1118. [2011-12-30 02:44:01] <MrTT> Yea... I didn't say HOW we would do so... if we were willing to let amen do things we could have him give bloodlines to everyone since amen has all the prereqs
  1119. [2011-12-30 02:44:05] <Arkeus> We also need Armas to be a Master Class, at the very LEAST, fleshcrafter and Soul manip user
  1120. [2011-12-30 02:44:09] <MrTT> Yes
  1121. [2011-12-30 02:44:13] <MrTT> yes we would
  1122. [2011-12-30 02:44:32] <Arkeus> So, basically, we don't 'just' need a blood mage
  1123. [2011-12-30 02:44:38] <MrTT> As I said... simple but not easy... like a nuclear bob. The basic overall theory? I can explain it in a sentence... actually MAKING a working bob?
  1124. [2011-12-30 02:44:42] <MrTT> bomb... not easy
  1125. [2011-12-30 02:44:47] <Arkeus> You are talking about end game stuff here.
  1126. [2011-12-30 02:44:53] <MrTT> yes
  1127. [2011-12-30 02:44:58] <Ironybot> Bleh. Enough of this. I'm going to sleep. Don't fuck up the Rocco situation, guys.
  1128. [2011-12-30 02:45:07] <Arkeus> Already done
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  1130. [2011-12-30 02:45:33] <MrTT> aactually... it will not be practical to get a russian to become a blood mage... more practical to find and befriend a master blood mage
  1131. [2011-12-30 02:45:36] <Ironybot> We need to get paid a lot, not look like an idiot, and don't promise things we can't provide. If some of the Russians are off drunk or something we can't very well show up without them if we said they'd show.
  1132. [2011-12-30 02:46:01] <Ironybot> Preferably we'd get at least a million dollars for this job and have a chance to show off.
  1133. [2011-12-30 02:46:04] <MrTT> yes ironybot
  1134. [2011-12-30 02:46:08] <Arkeus> We also need not to come across as a gfreedy arrogant prick
  1135. [2011-12-30 02:46:11] <Ironybot> Anyway. Sleep now.
  1136. [2011-12-30 02:46:14] <MrTT> that too ark
  1137. [2011-12-30 02:46:14] <Ironybot> Later.
  1138. [2011-12-30 02:46:21] <Arkeus> As in, not to ask too much money when they don't know our capabilities
  1139. [2011-12-30 02:46:36] <MrTT> To be honest, hilevi and einrik are really just guests
  1140. [2011-12-30 02:46:52] <MrTT> powerful guests... but not employees
  1141. [2011-12-30 02:46:52] <Alratan> We could propose that we hit the place as the higher ups are just arriving
  1142. [2011-12-30 02:47:02] <Alratan> and they're most exposed
  1143. [2011-12-30 02:47:04] <MrTT> that would be a nice plan
  1144. [2011-12-30 02:47:12] <MrTT> we would have to convince htem to wait though
  1145. [2011-12-30 02:47:13] <Alratan> and bring Hillevi along
  1146. [2011-12-30 02:47:21] <Alratan> and Einrik if he's up for it
  1147. [2011-12-30 02:47:22] <MrTT> hilevi AND einrik will need to come for such a thing
  1148. [2011-12-30 02:47:28] <MrTT> the higher ups are probably dangerous
  1149. [2011-12-30 02:47:37] <Alratan> as with that level of supernatural power that Einrik represents
  1150. [2011-12-30 02:47:53] <MrTT> consider, the leader of triads? dragon. The leaders of the KKK? Wizard. etc
  1151. [2011-12-30 02:47:54] <Alratan> and Markku was ahppy for his daughter to fight the Triads
  1152. [2011-12-30 02:48:03] <Alratan> sorry, not the Triads, hapy to fight the Yakuza
  1153. [2011-12-30 02:48:08] <MrTT> yes
  1154. [2011-12-30 02:48:19] <MrTT> he said to avoid the triads... he must have known about them being led by a dragon
  1155. [2011-12-30 02:48:24] <Alratan> probably
  1156. [2011-12-30 02:48:33] <Alratan> he said to avoid fighting the Triads
  1157. [2011-12-30 02:48:40] <MrTT> the current nest has luitenant s that are magical
  1158. [2011-12-30 02:48:49] <MrTT> nazi nest, lol
  1159. [2011-12-30 02:49:50] <Alratan> Sake is also not to be underestimated
  1160. [2011-12-30 02:50:16] <Alratan> as he's probably the seond most powerful of us all, with only Einrik stronger
  1161. [2011-12-30 02:53:38] <MrTT> and the hummingbird
  1162. [2011-12-30 02:56:15] <Alratan> In terms of pure destructive ouput, I'd put Sake on top
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  1164. [2011-12-30 02:56:56] <MrTT> I had an awesome idea... if we can get this delayed so we attack exactly when the higher ups show up...
  1165. [2011-12-30 02:57:11] <Alratan> go on
  1166. [2011-12-30 02:57:29] <MrTT> To get them too... Well, we have sake lift einrik up into the sky, as soon as the higher ups arrive einrik jumps from like a mile in the air and dives into them
  1167. [2011-12-30 02:57:45] <TIMreturned> Sweet! More Nazis! and this time, Lev won't have terrible advice from me!
  1168. [2011-12-30 02:58:25] <MrTT> while he fights the higher ups, the rest of us go in from below... russians and castileti guys kill the grunts. Armas and camella and hilevi take on their magic using leuitenants
  1169. [2011-12-30 02:59:41] <TIMreturned> We need to leave an escape route for the Nazis... and put death at it's end
  1170. [2011-12-30 02:59:48] <MrTT> heh
  1171. [2011-12-30 02:59:50] <MrTT> i like how you think
  1172. [2011-12-30 03:00:03] <AlratanMobile> ShadowBro
  1173. [2011-12-30 03:00:04] <TIMreturned> Those without a seeming escape fight harder than those who flee
  1174. [2011-12-30 03:00:19] <AlratanMobile> And a pile of antipersonnel land mines
  1175. [2011-12-30 03:00:28] <TIMreturned> :D
  1176. [2011-12-30 03:00:44] <AlratanMobile> To teleport beneath their feet as they run
  1177. [2011-12-30 03:01:26] <Conil> Nazis?
  1178. [2011-12-30 03:01:30] <Conil> Fuckin nazis
  1179. [2011-12-30 03:02:16] <MrTT> Einrik and hilevi... I think we should present as "I happen to have, at this very moment, two guests of exceptional power who might also be interested in coming. <blurb of relative power>" rather then promising him einrik and hilevi's cooperation which we cannot take for granted
  1180. [2011-12-30 03:02:58] <MrTT> So... we should have cemalla take into battle the 4 season supressing guns :P
  1181. [2011-12-30 03:03:09] <MrTT> bam, no more magic for you.
  1182. [2011-12-30 03:03:46] <MrTT> we actually really really need to figure out a way to detect a being's season
  1183. [2011-12-30 03:04:04] <TIMreturned> Nazis were on Markku's acceptable list of people for Hillevi to beat soundly
  1184. [2011-12-30 03:04:10] <MrTT> yes
  1185. [2011-12-30 03:04:12] <MrTT> i am aware
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  1187. [2011-12-30 03:04:34] <TIMreturned> have Zheya shoot them with season guns, see which works best
  1188. [2011-12-30 03:04:36] <TIMreturned> :V
  1189. [2011-12-30 03:05:06] <MrTT> well... for ideal distribution have 1 season gun in the hands of 4 individuals
  1190. [2011-12-30 03:05:17] <MrTT> But I worry for the guns themselves, this might be quite hectic
  1191. [2011-12-30 03:05:26] <TIMreturned> :/
  1192. [2011-12-30 03:05:33] <TIMreturned> Gotta let go man
  1193. [2011-12-30 03:05:46] <MrTT> then again, if we do things right this wouldn't be an issue
  1194. [2011-12-30 03:05:48] <TIMreturned> Only way to grab loot is to open yer hands
  1195. [2011-12-30 03:10:31] <AlratanMobile> Get Camella to shoot the guns
  1196. [2011-12-30 03:10:41] <AlratanMobile> As I suspect she is the best shot
  1197. [2011-12-30 03:10:54] <TIMreturned> :/
  1198. [2011-12-30 03:11:00] <AlratanMobile> We should stick with the AA-12
  1199. [2011-12-30 03:11:20] <Shifter20> http://www.cwo.zaq.ne.jp/bface700/bb-tosa.JPG GUNPOWDEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRR
  1200. [2011-12-30 03:11:56] <TIMreturned> I'm not sure that Silja would mind shooting nazis but shapeshifters and female monster/supers is probably better for her diet
  1201. [2011-12-30 03:12:02] <TIMreturned> Come to think of that
  1202. [2011-12-30 03:12:17] <TIMreturned> We should be feeding her select meats
  1203. [2011-12-30 03:13:17] <AlratanMobile> Yes
  1204. [2011-12-30 03:13:39] <AlratanMobile> I want to buy live creatures from SM to feed her
  1205. [2011-12-30 03:13:50] <AlratanMobile> Possibly Sirens
  1206. [2011-12-30 03:14:15] <TIMreturned> Dem Sirens, driving people mad
  1207. [2011-12-30 03:15:22] <TIMreturned> I'm sure what creatures we feed will determine what form she takes in part, that and the state of her mind
  1208. [2011-12-30 03:15:46] <AlratanMobile> Well, female winter elves would probably be best
  1209. [2011-12-30 03:16:03] <MrTT> lol
  1210. [2011-12-30 03:16:09] <AlratanMobile> Or female winter aligned shapeshifters
  1211. [2011-12-30 03:16:14] <MrTT> sexy ones like the one we met before
  1212. [2011-12-30 03:16:21] <MrTT> all night long
  1213. [2011-12-30 03:16:51] <MrTT> I don't think she is gonna sprout a penis if we feed her males
  1214. [2011-12-30 03:16:56] <AlratanMobile> As they're artifact groupies, we should invite that pair over for dinner when we've made the mere
  1215. [2011-12-30 03:17:27] <MrTT> That... is amusing but largely a waste of our time
  1216. [2011-12-30 03:17:30] <AlratanMobile> MrTT: no, but she needs the right parts
  1217. [2011-12-30 03:17:48] <MrTT> well, not really a waste if we are trying to actually foster relationship with the elves and vamps rather thne just getting sex
  1218. [2011-12-30 03:17:53] <AlratanMobile> MrTT, we need other supernatural contacts apart from SM
  1219. [2011-12-30 03:18:08] <AlratanMobile> They are a route in
  1220. [2011-12-30 03:18:32] <MrTT> just as long as you remember that and try to foster relationships with organizations rather then just getting sex
  1221. [2011-12-30 03:18:53] <AlratanMobile> Well, yes, otherwise it's creepy
  1222. [2011-12-30 03:19:21] <MrTT> sorry, let me rephrase that... we should not be trying to get sex from them at all
  1223. [2011-12-30 03:19:22] <TIMreturned> Penis sprouting would be the least of the problems
  1224. [2011-12-30 03:19:49] <MrTT> i think silja would take issue with being fed live sentient beings which we PURCHASED for the purpose
  1225. [2011-12-30 03:19:58] <AlratanMobile> MrTT, as long as it's offscreen, I don't really care
  1226. [2011-12-30 03:20:00] <MrTT> btw, i think the nazies will have females
  1227. [2011-12-30 03:20:25] <TIMreturned> Hunting things strikes me as better than buying them for her
  1228. [2011-12-30 03:20:26] <AlratanMobile> Remember Silja died too early to know why Nazis are bad
  1229. [2011-12-30 03:20:27] <MrTT> that elf really makes me laugh with how she called the vamp a corpse
  1230. [2011-12-30 03:20:42] <MrTT> I am SURE we can explain
  1231. [2011-12-30 03:20:56] <AlratanMobile> They were allies of Finland when she was killed
  1232. [2011-12-30 03:21:06] <MrTT> they stabbed finland in the back
  1233. [2011-12-30 03:21:18] <AlratanMobile> She died before then
  1234. [2011-12-30 03:21:21] <MrTT> and their racial purity stuff was not limited to jews
  1235. [2011-12-30 03:21:28] <MrTT> but all "lesser races"
  1236. [2011-12-30 03:21:38] <MrTT> as i said, we can explains
  1237. [2011-12-30 03:21:47] <AlratanMobile> They wouldn't have been impressed with her blindness
  1238. [2011-12-30 03:21:56] <MrTT> yes
  1239. [2011-12-30 03:22:04] <AlratanMobile> We can try to explain, but it would only be intellectual
  1240. [2011-12-30 03:22:28] <AlratanMobile> She wouldn't have the emotional reaction to them a more modern person would
  1241. [2011-12-30 03:22:34] <MrTT> in fact at first they just wanted to kick jews out of germany while their FIRST priority was to kill off all the "defective" aryians to improve the race via eugenics
  1242. [2011-12-30 03:22:44] <MrTT> anyone with a disability was killed first
  1243. [2011-12-30 03:22:55] <AlratanMobile> All true
  1244. [2011-12-30 03:23:11] <MrTT> Bullshit alratan. The people of the time had VERY emotional reactions to it when they discovered what the nazies actually did
  1245. [2011-12-30 03:23:13] <AlratanMobile> Still, it doesn't help with the core problem
  1246. [2011-12-30 03:23:24] <MrTT> there is no core problem
  1247. [2011-12-30 03:23:30] <MrTT> she doesn't know, we tell her
  1248. [2011-12-30 03:23:40] <MrTT> you are making a big issue out of this, it is not
  1249. [2011-12-30 03:23:51] <AlratanMobile> We need her to not see them as people
  1250. [2011-12-30 03:24:18] <AlratanMobile> Merely thinking they're evil may be insufficient
  1251. [2011-12-30 03:24:32] <AlratanMobile> We can still give it a try
  1252. [2011-12-30 03:24:58] <MrTT> uh... what?
  1253. [2011-12-30 03:25:07] <MrTT> no she can just be willing to kill them for being evil people
  1254. [2011-12-30 03:25:13] <MrTT> shge is fine with killing pedophiles
  1255. [2011-12-30 03:25:27] <AlratanMobile> Killing is one thing
  1256. [2011-12-30 03:25:34] <MrTT> not only that, she is a paladin
  1257. [2011-12-30 03:25:44] <MrTT> oh, you want EATING
  1258. [2011-12-30 03:25:47] <AlratanMobile> Eating and assimilating their living flesh is another
  1259. [2011-12-30 03:25:58] <MrTT> doesn't her bullets cause eating?
  1260. [2011-12-30 03:26:10] <TIMreturned> Killing and eating monsters should be no problem for her
  1261. [2011-12-30 03:26:15] <TIMreturned> Well
  1262. [2011-12-30 03:26:25] <TIMreturned> Apart from bad tastes
  1263. [2011-12-30 03:26:27] <AlratanMobile> Her bullets are different to her stock
  1264. [2011-12-30 03:26:46] <MrTT> if there is ANY human we can paint as enough of a monster to justify eating, it is nazies
  1265. [2011-12-30 03:26:47] <AlratanMobile> I think
  1266. [2011-12-30 03:26:59] <MrTT> well... and pedophiles
  1267. [2011-12-30 03:27:13] <TIMreturned> Well these ones clearly have a mad doctor
  1268. [2011-12-30 03:27:39] <AlratanMobile> I just have a vision of us using Silja like a vacuum cleaner after the battle
  1269. [2011-12-30 03:27:45] <TIMreturned> What with the supersoldiers, I mean how many died to create Brandt?
  1270. [2011-12-30 03:28:12] <TIMreturned> All that testing
  1271. [2011-12-30 03:28:35] <AlratanMobile> They probably died in the womb, most of them
  1272. [2011-12-30 03:28:50] <AlratanMobile> As he was genetically engineered
  1273. [2011-12-30 03:29:04] <MrTT> mmm... did they test it on their victims? I can just imagine their first success being a jew or a gypsy or a homosexual or something... and that person escaping with their newfound power
  1274. [2011-12-30 03:29:07] <MrTT> and still being around
  1275. [2011-12-30 03:29:26] <MrTT> wait what... genetically engineered? not chemically enhanced? WTF
  1276. [2011-12-30 03:30:01] <TIMreturned> Dying in the womb hardly makes it any better
  1277. [2011-12-30 03:30:07] <MrTT> "The structure of DNA was discovered in 1953 by Francis Crick and James Watson while Watson lived here at Clare."
  1278. [2011-12-30 03:30:40] <AlratanMobile> Nazi super science
  1279. [2011-12-30 03:30:43] <MrTT> mmm... well, i guess brandt could be a brand new tech, made by neo nazies
  1280. [2011-12-30 03:30:56] <MrTT> alratan. genetically engineering a super human IS super science
  1281. [2011-12-30 03:30:59] <AlratanMobile> On their Moonbase
  1282. [2011-12-30 03:31:40] <MrTT> did the nazies develop the tech to genetically engineer super soldiers like him during WW2? I am thinking not, i am guessing he is a neo-nazi invention
  1283. [2011-12-30 03:31:45] <MrTT> which also explains his age
  1284. [2011-12-30 03:32:06] <AlratanMobile> Remember they're not neo-Nazis
  1285. [2011-12-30 03:32:14] <AlratanMobile> They're the original deal
  1286. [2011-12-30 03:32:23] <AlratanMobile> Hitler is still running around
  1287. [2011-12-30 03:32:31] <MrTT> he is?
  1288. [2011-12-30 03:32:32] <MrTT> wtf
  1289. [2011-12-30 03:32:50] <MrTT> so he didn't die? faked his own suicide?
  1290. [2011-12-30 03:33:02] <MrTT> ok fine, original nazies, but didn't develop it in WW2
  1291. [2011-12-30 03:33:09] <MrTT> could easy have developed it very recently
  1292. [2011-12-30 03:33:39] <AlratanMobile> Well, in the 80s, but yes
  1293. [2011-12-30 03:35:07] <AlratanMobile> As Brandt had to grow up
  1294. [2011-12-30 03:35:37] <AlratanMobile> They could also just have used flesh crafting to upgrade his parents in a hereditary way
  1295. [2011-12-30 03:37:31] <TIMreturned> Welp, gotta go!
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  1297. [2011-12-30 03:37:35] <MrTT> but that is not genetic engineering
  1298. [2011-12-30 03:38:22] <MrTT> btw... scientology top powers are pretty ridiculous http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_Thetan
  1299. [2011-12-30 03:38:24] <AlratanMobile> It could be, if you use flesh crafting to modify the genes
  1300. [2011-12-30 03:39:37] <AlratanMobile> But this is all a bit academic
  1301. [2011-12-30 03:39:57] <AlratanMobile> I've posted the idea about delaying and inviting Einrik
  1302. [2011-12-30 03:40:45] <MrTT> good but you are promising einrik's aid when its a maybe. We have to ask einrik
  1303. [2011-12-30 03:40:56] <MrTT> we can bring it up as an option saying we can quickly verify it
  1304. [2011-12-30 03:41:06] <AlratanMobile> Where did I promise it?
  1305. [2011-12-30 03:42:20] <MrTT> g2g
  1306. [2011-12-30 03:42:23] <MrTT> night everyone
  1307. [2011-12-30 03:42:36] <AlratanMobile> "my guests may be amenable to joining in"
  1308. [2011-12-30 03:42:38] <AlratanMobile> Ok
  1309. [2011-12-30 03:42:43] <AlratanMobile> Speak to you later then
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  1312. [2011-12-30 04:59:36] <Abeo> hmmm...
  1313. [2011-12-30 05:00:16] <Abeo> We could probably solo this mission. Silently.
  1314. [2011-12-30 05:00:58] <Shifter20> Why not do both? Use the noise as cover?
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  1316. [2011-12-30 05:02:26] <Abeo> If we do it silently we can ambush the higher-ups later
  1317. [2011-12-30 05:03:12] <Abeo> Would also be easier to take stuff without being noticed
  1318. [2011-12-30 05:04:35] <Abeo> Plus, making three dozen guards and whatever they're guarding simply dissapear is a great way to freak out an enemy organization
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  1320. [2011-12-30 05:16:39] <AlratanMobile> That's what Silja is for
  1321. [2011-12-30 05:16:55] <AlratanMobile> Clean up all the bodies
  1322. [2011-12-30 05:17:11] <AlratanMobile> Whilst SB disposes of other physical evidence
  1323. [2011-12-30 05:20:28] <PriceisMagic> Talk about mundane utility
  1324. [2011-12-30 05:20:58] <Abeo> Another benefit of going solo: the mafia don't become aware of our specific capabilities
  1325. [2011-12-30 05:21:36] <AlratanMobile> If we want to kill the higher ups, I think we have to go in force
  1326. [2011-12-30 05:21:39] <Abeo> I don't think we could convince Silja to eat the bodies of people we killed for money
  1327. [2011-12-30 05:21:50] <Abeo> Or ambush them really really well
  1328. [2011-12-30 05:22:11] <AlratanMobile> Tell her they're Nazis
  1329. [2011-12-30 05:22:25] <Abeo> I am not comfortable to outright lying to her
  1330. [2011-12-30 05:22:31] <AlratanMobile> They are Nazis
  1331. [2011-12-30 05:22:36] <Abeo> Spinning things, sure.
  1332. [2011-12-30 05:22:42] <AlratanMobile> It's the truth
  1333. [2011-12-30 05:22:46] <Abeo> These were the nazis?
  1334. [2011-12-30 05:22:51] <Abeo> I'd forgotten which group it was
  1335. [2011-12-30 05:22:52] <AlratanMobile> I believe so
  1336. [2011-12-30 05:22:57] <Abeo> I thought it was triad
  1337. [2011-12-30 05:23:00] <AlratanMobile> No
  1338. [2011-12-30 05:23:05] <AlratanMobile> Triads are our allies
  1339. [2011-12-30 05:23:13] <Abeo> I meant yakuza, sorry
  1340. [2011-12-30 05:23:27] <Abeo> Always get those mixed up, not sure why
  1341. [2011-12-30 05:24:00] <Abeo> Also, is she even familiar with what Nazis are?
  1342. [2011-12-30 05:24:15] <AlratanMobile> That's my concern
  1343. [2011-12-30 05:24:26] <AlratanMobile> She should be, I think
  1344. [2011-12-30 05:24:37] <Abeo> Thought she was killed before WWII
  1345. [2011-12-30 05:24:46] <AlratanMobile> Although we may have to explain
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  1347. [2011-12-30 05:25:19] <AlratanMobile> I think she died in the early 40s
  1348. [2011-12-30 05:25:30] <Abeo> But then explaining that "Nazis are bad guys and totally okay to kill and eat" right before saying "Hey, want to go kill and eat some Nazis?" is sorta... indellicate
  1349. [2011-12-30 05:25:35] <AlratanMobile> Or was very, very young when she married
  1350. [2011-12-30 05:25:56] <AlratanMobile> We've already fought a Nazi, I think
  1351. [2011-12-30 05:25:58] <AlratanMobile> Armin
  1352. [2011-12-30 05:26:10] <AlratanMobile> Although we didn't kill him
  1353. [2011-12-30 05:26:25] <AlratanMobile> We may have had the bad people who need killing talk already
  1354. [2011-12-30 05:26:38] <Abeo> I know we did about child-molesters
  1355. [2011-12-30 05:29:32] <AlratanMobile> We probably want to build on that
  1356. [2011-12-30 05:29:55] <Abeo> Subtly
  1357. [2011-12-30 05:30:51] <Abeo> What kind of "tricks" would the Nazis have anyway?
  1358. [2011-12-30 05:31:18] <AlratanMobile> They could well have some serious bloodline powers
  1359. [2011-12-30 05:31:51] <AlratanMobile> Control over virtually all of western Europe to harvest genetic material
  1360. [2011-12-30 05:32:23] <Abeo> that's a pretty god point
  1361. [2011-12-30 05:32:35] <Abeo> *good
  1362. [2011-12-30 05:32:39] <AlratanMobile> Combined with utter ruthlessness to use very unpleasant rituals to fuel the development of powers an to give upgrades
  1363. [2011-12-30 05:34:02] <Abeo> Probably nothing the Hummingbird can't handle though
  1364. [2011-12-30 05:35:02] <AlratanMobile> There are some powers that would be very hard for it to counter
  1365. [2011-12-30 05:35:31] <AlratanMobile> Things with superspeed and area attacks would be nasty
  1366. [2011-12-30 05:36:08] <Abeo> Depends on the types of attacks
  1367. [2011-12-30 05:36:35] <Abeo> it smashed right through Sake's, admittedly casual, wind-manipulation use
  1368. [2011-12-30 05:38:10] <AlratanMobile> I'm thinking more of wide scale fire manipulation
  1369. [2011-12-30 05:38:51] <Abeo> I'd bet on the Hummingbird making it through mostly intact.
  1370. [2011-12-30 05:39:10] <Abeo> Barring power levels that would invalidate challenging them as an option whatsoever
  1371. [2011-12-30 05:39:25] <Abeo> in which case they'd be expected to have a wider power base
  1372. [2011-12-30 05:39:29] <AlratanMobile> If there's nowhere to dodge too, because the air is simultaneously transmuted to fire
  1373. [2011-12-30 05:40:02] <Abeo> I said "through" for a reason. Hummingbirded charge the dude probably
  1374. [2011-12-30 05:40:12] <AlratanMobile> Or something that could convert oxygen to carbon monoxide or other poisonous gas
  1375. [2011-12-30 05:40:38] <AlratanMobile> Basically, anything that would make it necessary to have Einrik along
  1376. [2011-12-30 05:41:08] <Abeo> yeah
  1377. [2011-12-30 05:41:46] <Abeo> I kinda want to get another does of Doony-antidote
  1378. [2011-12-30 05:41:51] <Abeo> For Hummingbird
  1379. [2011-12-30 05:42:00] <Abeo> See if he can solo Doony
  1380. [2011-12-30 05:43:19] <AlratanMobile> Death by a thousand pecks
  1381. [2011-12-30 05:44:35] <AlratanMobile> I do want to work out how to get the hummingbird a bloodline
  1382. [2011-12-30 05:46:48] <AlratanMobile> Even if it means getting in further debt with Ogrimmir
  1383. [2011-12-30 05:46:55] <Abeo> That's crazy
  1384. [2011-12-30 05:46:58] <Abeo> you're crazy
  1385. [2011-12-30 05:47:47] <Abeo> Hey, do you think Ogrimmir knows how we do our hybrid healing?
  1386. [2011-12-30 05:48:19] <AlratanMobile> I doubt it
  1387. [2011-12-30 05:48:46] <AlratanMobile> As he doesn't know what the secret Romanov power is
  1388. [2011-12-30 05:49:02] <AlratanMobile> And I suspect that's an integral part of it
  1389. [2011-12-30 05:49:47] <Abeo> Seems like the most reasonable conclusion, really.
  1390. [2011-12-30 05:50:07] <Abeo> Too bad it doesn't really give us anything to work off of.
  1391. [2011-12-30 05:51:05] <AlratanMobile> No
  1392. [2011-12-30 05:51:31] <AlratanMobile> For the past couple of updates I have proposed some investigation of the hybrid healing
  1393. [2011-12-30 05:51:38] <AlratanMobile> But no one has upvotes
  1394. [2011-12-30 05:52:21] <Abeo> I don't 'cause I don't think it'd give us any new information as we curently are
  1395. [2011-12-30 05:52:59] <Abeo> Other tha "this is another way that we were unable to find out any real information"
  1396. [2011-12-30 05:54:03] <AlratanMobile> I think trying it with our chakra in different configurations might give some indication if it's chakra related
  1397. [2011-12-30 05:54:39] <Abeo> Well, technically it is going to be at some level
  1398. [2011-12-30 05:54:53] <AlratanMobile> I expect so
  1399. [2011-12-30 05:54:59] <Abeo> iirc, all bloodlines utilize chakras to some extent
  1400. [2011-12-30 05:55:07] <AlratanMobile> I don't think they do
  1401. [2011-12-30 05:55:16] <Abeo> I'm fairly absolutely sure that they do
  1402. [2011-12-30 05:55:21] <AlratanMobile> A purely physical bloodline wouldn't I think
  1403. [2011-12-30 05:55:30] <Abeo> Possibl
  1404. [2011-12-30 05:55:55] <AlratanMobile> Remember that most bloodlines literally reside in the blood and flesh
  1405. [2011-12-30 05:56:07] <AlratanMobile> So if you're drained of blood they stop working
  1406. [2011-12-30 05:56:08] <Abeo> I really dont want to go searching for this quote...
  1407. [2011-12-30 05:56:10] <Abeo> ergh
  1408. [2011-12-30 05:56:50] <AlratanMobile> And that our winter bloodline pre-Og was a set of nodes in our body
  1409. [2011-12-30 05:57:54] <Abeo> Yup, you were right.
  1410. [2011-12-30 05:58:05] <Abeo> Looks like only soul-based bloodlines use chakras
  1411. [2011-12-30 05:59:10] <Abeo> Anything that uses soul energy to any degree is using chakras to do it, it seems
  1412. [2011-12-30 05:59:27] <Abeo> except gods
  1413. [2011-12-30 05:59:30] <AlratanMobile> Anything that uses soul energy to effect the body, at least
  1414. [2011-12-30 05:59:41] <Abeo> ">[Einrik][In Finnish]"That really is a dangerous habit of yours, to pose questions as if they can be answered exclusively in an either or fashion. Regardless, it means nothing of the sort-Chakras never become irrelevant, as they are the soul's means of diffusing spiritual energy into the body-more broadly, they are how one converts energy of the soul into more applicable energies. A Dragon has Chakras-I use my Chakras to a degree, a Soul Ma
  1415. [2011-12-30 06:00:14] <Abeo> So yeah, if you're just throwing a chunk of your soul at someone, I guess it wouldn't be using chakras
  1416. [2011-12-30 06:00:22] <Abeo> shit
  1417. [2011-12-30 06:00:23] <AlratanMobile> I suspect that purely internal soul sculpting may not involve chakra manipulation, as the soul is upstream
  1418. [2011-12-30 06:00:30] <Abeo> possible
  1419. [2011-12-30 06:00:46] <Abeo> continued "everything but gods use Chakras where it comes to using their soul's energy directly, even Wizards. And I must stress that this is completely separate from using the power of one's bloodlines where such bloodlines are NOT based around Soul manipulation.""
  1420. [2011-12-30 06:01:59] <Abeo> it would make sense for Romanov to have a chakra-based element to it
  1421. [2011-12-30 06:02:21] <AlratanMobile> As it's a soul manipulation bloodline that effects the body
  1422. [2011-12-30 06:07:00] <AlratanMobile> The other reason I think hybrid healing is Romanov based is that Einrik can't work out how it works
  1423. [2011-12-30 06:09:12] <Arkeus> My reason is partly meta- we know hybrid techs are supposed to be flat out impossible, so it would make sense a bloodline that is incredibly secret would be responsible
  1424. [2011-12-30 06:10:34] <Abeo> That... could actually work as a partial base for a non-meta theory
  1425. [2011-12-30 06:10:37] <Arkeus> Also, i am not sure attacking the higher up is quite safe right now- possible it will hasten the medieval sidequest
  1426. [2011-12-30 06:10:47] <Abeo> hrmmm true
  1427. [2011-12-30 06:11:18] <Abeo> I still think it would be the trolliest move to offer to have the situation resolved by the time his men show up
  1428. [2011-12-30 06:11:44] <Abeo> But I really don't feel like writing up a proper post...
  1429. [2011-12-30 06:12:51] <Abeo> On the hybrid healing front: we know it isn't a Sami thing. Armas knows it isn't a Sami thing
  1430. [2011-12-30 06:12:55] <Arkeus> Honestly, Hillevi could do this all by herself. Just make the damn building so cold everyone inside dies
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  1432. [2011-12-30 06:14:01] <Abeo> That leaves two options basically: some kind of crazy wizard/god boon he inherited from the process that gave him the two active but blank bloodlines; or it is Romanov related
  1433. [2011-12-30 06:15:03] <AlratanMobile> Or it's mediated by neutral divine energy from the graft of a god's soul
  1434. [2011-12-30 06:16:03] <Abeo> It would be quite a stretch for Einrick to not heard of that sort of thing, even if divinity is not his area of expertise.
  1435. [2011-12-30 06:16:05] <AlratanMobile> With the divine power keeping the two opposing energies insulated from each other and under controll
  1436. [2011-12-30 06:16:50] <Arkeus> I don't think the soul graft by itself would be enough- there are too many godlings for that to be unknown.
  1437. [2011-12-30 06:17:02] <Abeo> Also nothing about that arrangment that suggest to me Einrick would be unable to percieve the process
  1438. [2011-12-30 06:20:42] <Arkeus> It's at this point a certain flight-capable creature chimes in.
  1439. [2011-12-30 06:20:43] <Arkeus> >[Hummingbird]"This female you were singing with-"
  1440. [2011-12-30 06:20:43] <Arkeus> Camella. What about her?
  1441. [2011-12-30 06:20:43] <Arkeus> >[Hummingbird]"Something about her feels... familiar to me. I know not why-but still, I find the sensation odd."
  1442. [2011-12-30 06:20:43] <Arkeus> ...Is it possible she reminds you of yourself?
  1443. [2011-12-30 06:20:44] <Arkeus> >[Hummingbird]"How droll. Really, you think some lesser giant like yourself could be comparable in any field to the sublime majesty and beauty that is my race's birthright?" <= Silly Armas
  1444. [2011-12-30 06:22:51] <Abeo> that bird is swiftly becoming one of my favourite characters
  1445. [2011-12-30 06:24:01] <Abeo> We'll see how long it takes for Armas to corrupt him
  1446. [2011-12-30 06:28:04] <Arkeus> >[Einrik][In Finnish]"A new one to me, to be certain-but beyond funneling more than half of the output straight into your shadow, the remaining's split between sensory augmentation and-this one's the important one-full body saturation to suppress the generation of sound. <= this is rather important. Pretty sure we could refine the stealt halignement to be more in line with pure Armas stealth.
  1447. [2011-12-30 06:28:04] <Arkeus> Sensory agumentation + Sound masking is pretty cool.
  1448. [2011-12-30 06:29:50] <Abeo> Yeah, knowing more accurately what the alignment does has got my gears turning
  1449. [2011-12-30 06:48:38] <AlratanMobile> The soul graft is almost unique, remember that Whaitiri only did it because she was desperate
  1450. [2011-12-30 06:49:39] <AlratanMobile> On the stealth alignment
  1451. [2011-12-30 06:49:54] <Abeo> The specific nature of Whaitiri makes it unlikely for a soul graft from her to be condisive to "buffering" energy.
  1452. [2011-12-30 06:50:02] <Abeo> Canibal and all that
  1453. [2011-12-30 06:50:11] <AlratanMobile> We should study it, try to tease out how to do each of the three independently
  1454. [2011-12-30 06:51:46] <Abeo> Agreed, but after we have a more solid base in chakra use.
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  1457. [2011-12-30 07:25:29] <Arkeus> <Abeo> Agreed, but after we have a more solid base in chakra use. <= pretty much, as, well, the way we are know it will give us dimnishing returns
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  1460. [2011-12-30 07:29:26] <Arkeus> hey Erl
  1461. [2011-12-30 07:29:32] <Arkeus> Up to date?
  1462. [2011-12-30 07:29:35] <WeissRitter> Yeah
  1463. [2011-12-30 07:29:39] =-= WeissRitter is now known as Erlkonig
  1464. [2011-12-30 07:29:44] <Arkeus> Heheheh
  1465. [2011-12-30 07:29:50] <Arkeus> So, stu happened
  1466. [2011-12-30 07:29:51] <Erlkonig> Oh wait
  1467. [2011-12-30 07:29:52] <Erlkonig> Not yet
  1468. [2011-12-30 07:29:53] <Arkeus> stuff
  1469. [2011-12-30 07:29:56] <Arkeus> ah ok.
  1470. [2011-12-30 07:29:56] <Erlkonig> Halfway there
  1471. [2011-12-30 07:30:54] <Arkeus> Where are you at?
  1472. [2011-12-30 07:31:48] <Erlkonig> Umm, after fighting the Reapers, Armas arrives at home and starts bossing around Amen on the nameless Russian's room
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  1474. [2011-12-30 07:34:40] <Arkeus> lol
  1475. [2011-12-30 07:34:53] <AlratanMobile> About Whaitiri's graft and why it might actually be good at controlling and directing foreign energy
  1476. [2011-12-30 07:35:14] <AlratanMobile> That's actually what digestion is all about
  1477. [2011-12-30 07:35:29] <AlratanMobile> Sorry if I interrupted
  1478. [2011-12-30 07:37:40] <Erlkonig> Camella is still a PC, right?
  1479. [2011-12-30 07:37:49] <AlratanMobile> Yep
  1480. [2011-12-30 07:38:04] <Erlkonig> Wow, I guess we've gotten way ahead of her now
  1481. [2011-12-30 07:38:05] <AlratanMobile> Why I'm hesitant to help her too much
  1482. [2011-12-30 07:38:17] <AlratanMobile> Might come across as patronising
  1483. [2011-12-30 07:38:27] <Arkeus> Wearen't helping her
  1484. [2011-12-30 07:38:42] <Erlkonig> OH FUCK
  1485. [2011-12-30 07:38:46] <Erlkonig> SOMEBODY GOT 66666
  1486. [2011-12-30 07:38:47] <Erlkonig> EPIC
  1487. [2011-12-30 07:38:59] <Arkeus> mmmh, you are at the camella fight, huh?
  1488. [2011-12-30 07:39:08] <Erlkonig> What does 66666 do?
  1489. [2011-12-30 07:39:15] <Arkeus> Just a bonus
  1490. [2011-12-30 07:39:19] <Erlkonig> Awww
  1491. [2011-12-30 07:40:39] <Arkeus> laters
  1492. [2011-12-30 07:48:59] <Erlkonig> Damn, we still lost to Camella?
  1493. [2011-12-30 07:49:01] <Erlkonig> Not faaaaaaaaaaair
  1494. [2011-12-30 07:49:03] <AlratanMobile> Can I drum up any support for the idea that we enlist Einrik and hit the Nazi higher-ups
  1495. [2011-12-30 07:49:45] <AlratanMobile> Erlkonig: yeah, we learned out lesson. Even with the most amazing rolls
  1496. [2011-12-30 07:50:48] <Arkeus> Well, not really lost.
  1497. [2011-12-30 07:50:50] <Erlkonig> Armas is like a comedy show whenever he steps up to Camella
  1498. [2011-12-30 07:50:58] <Arkeus> I think bob just didn't want us to win that one.
  1499. [2011-12-30 07:51:02] <Arkeus> lol
  1500. [2011-12-30 07:51:14] <Arkeus> Alratan: I think we can't sell it to Rocco, honestly
  1501. [2011-12-30 07:51:38] <Erlkonig> We're so going to get a rematch
  1502. [2011-12-30 07:51:48] <Arkeus> What i am going to try to sell is going there infiltration style and killing all of them, and if we succeed in doing that without any wave, try to wait for the higher ups as a trap
  1503. [2011-12-30 07:52:18] <Arkeus> Erlkonig: Yeah, we are going for a unarmed rematch soon in order to improve our unarmed ability, but we want to learn a few stuff first.
  1504. [2011-12-30 07:57:11] <Erlkonig> Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck
  1505. [2011-12-30 07:57:19] <Erlkonig> Why did you tell her you weren't her husband
  1506. [2011-12-30 07:57:46] <Arkeus> lol
  1507. [2011-12-30 07:58:02] * Erlkonig speaking about Silja
  1508. [2011-12-30 07:58:17] <Erlkonig> You actually thought she knew?
  1509. [2011-12-30 07:59:29] <Arkeus> She didn't want to know
  1510. [2011-12-30 07:59:58] <Arkeus> We wanted to make her see the world outside, and it was obvious she would have to be told some day. We were... hasty
  1511. [2011-12-30 08:08:07] <AlratanMobile> Was fucking stupid
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  1515. [2011-12-30 08:11:55] <AlratanMobile> Arkeus: why don't you think Rocco would accept a god killer helping him out?
  1516. [2011-12-30 08:12:47] <AlratanMobile> Having apparently deployed such a force once means that in future all potential opponents have to worry he can do so again.
  1517. [2011-12-30 08:13:42] <AlratanMobile> It's worth much more as a detterant
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  1526. [2011-12-30 09:20:10] <Erlkonig> Oh god
  1527. [2011-12-30 09:20:15] <Erlkonig> The hummingbird is awesome
  1528. [2011-12-30 09:32:34] <Arkeus> heheh
  1529. [2011-12-30 09:32:39] <Arkeus> Just ùet him?
  1530. [2011-12-30 09:33:47] <Erlkonig> Lol at his reaction to Silja
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  1532. [2011-12-30 09:34:47] <Arkeus> Yeah, he is a bit annoyed by her
  1533. [2011-12-30 09:34:49] <Arkeus> just a bit
  1534. [2011-12-30 09:34:56] <Arkeus> But he tells Camella what for later
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  1536. [2011-12-30 09:47:53] <Erlkonig> FINALLY caught up
  1537. [2011-12-30 09:48:12] <Erlkonig> So we are going to head for a gathering of devils?
  1538. [2011-12-30 09:48:14] <Erlkonig> Damn
  1539. [2011-12-30 09:48:16] <Erlkonig> Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn
  1540. [2011-12-30 09:49:03] <Erlkonig> Is Armas able to stop escalating situations?
  1541. [2011-12-30 09:49:36] <Erlkonig> Anyway later guys
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  1543. [2011-12-30 10:02:01] <DoubleU> ?gfh
  1544. [2011-12-30 10:02:02] <Classhole> http://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/360354+50.html
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  1550. [2011-12-30 10:16:45] <Fargist_The_Fifth> The s
  1551. [2011-12-30 10:16:58] <Fargist_The_Fifth> The Stealth chakra technique...we developed it, right?
  1552. [2011-12-30 10:25:21] <Wutenheimer> no, amen did it
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  1559. [2011-12-30 11:01:47] <Dart666> can anyone send me the logs of the last days?
  1560. [2011-12-30 11:02:30] <Wutenheimer> a bug load of shit and everyone gushing over the hummingbird
  1561. [2011-12-30 11:02:37] <Wutenheimer> you're now caught up congratulations
  1562. [2011-12-30 11:07:15] <Wutenheimer> reading a suptg thread on dragons vs apaches
  1563. [2011-12-30 11:07:23] <Wutenheimer> jesuschrist these people are dumb
  1564. [2011-12-30 11:08:20] <Wutenheimer> Quick quote: M230 chain guns that the apache fire penetrate "more than two inches of rolled homogenous armour" Steel, meaning each bullet deals 10 DR/hardness + 60 HP = 70 HP PER SHOT. MINIMUM.
  1565. [2011-12-30 11:08:20] <Wutenheimer> With 625 shots per minute, and 6 seconds per round, that's 62 shots of 70 HP each, meaning if it hits there's 4340 damage being done.
  1566. [2011-12-30 11:08:20] <Wutenheimer> Unless there's something like massive amounts of DR reduction it's going to toast a dragon.
  1567. [2011-12-30 11:08:30] <Wutenheimer> >It can penetrate bit it won't DESTROY said armour. It will still be there, just with a hole in it. That HP is to destroy is completely.
  1568. [2011-12-30 11:08:59] <Wutenheimer> hurr, guns dont do damage cause they just leave a small hole
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  1576. [2011-12-30 12:11:07] <Arkeus> hey Guile
  1577. [2011-12-30 12:14:14] <Guile> lo
  1578. [2011-12-30 12:15:06] <Guile> Deus Ex and Civ5 at 17 bucks apiece, not too shabby, steam
  1579. [2011-12-30 12:16:32] <Bob> Why does steam love putting on sale games I already bought from them...
  1580. [2011-12-30 12:16:33] <Bob> Jerks.
  1581. [2011-12-30 12:17:02] <Guile> I know! Also, New Vegas: 5 dollars
  1582. [2011-12-30 12:18:23] <Bob> WAT
  1583. [2011-12-30 12:18:25] <Bob> BASTARDS
  1584. [2011-12-30 12:19:40] <Bob> So... reading through the Wiki page on 'Uncontacted Tribes (of people)... not only does South America have more than the rest of the world combined, Brazil has more than all of fucking europe and asia.
  1585. [2011-12-30 12:20:04] <Bob> Oh yes, and they STILL periodically decide to massacre said uncontacted indigenous groups for easier access to environmental resources.
  1586. [2011-12-30 12:20:06] <Bob> FUN FUCKING TIMES
  1587. [2011-12-30 12:20:07] <Arkeus> <Bob> Why does steam love putting on sale games I already bought from them... <= i know :-(
  1588. [2011-12-30 12:20:12] <Arkeus> and i missed the bob coming in, too
  1589. [2011-12-30 12:20:22] <Arkeus> I was hesitating buy civ V for someone
  1590. [2011-12-30 12:20:28] <Arkeus> Or buying NV DLCs
  1591. [2011-12-30 12:20:50] <Bob> Really though http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncontacted_peoples#Andaman_Islands
  1592. [2011-12-30 12:20:52] <Bob> Check that out
  1593. [2011-12-30 12:20:59] <Arkeus> heh
  1594. [2011-12-30 12:21:08] <Arkeus> Seems like someplace we should send Hillevi to
  1595. [2011-12-30 12:21:18] <Guile> sometimes makes you proud to be white, amirite?
  1596. [2011-12-30 12:21:19] <Bob> Brazil does not give a FUCK about indigenous people-like, they made the Trail of Tears look rather sporting and friendly.
  1597. [2011-12-30 12:21:28] <Bob> ...Okay, maybe that's a hyperbole.
  1598. [2011-12-30 12:21:31] <Guile> oh, its not us this time!
  1599. [2011-12-30 12:21:40] <Bob> I know right?
  1600. [2011-12-30 12:22:52] <Arkeus> Mmmh... am probably going to post in a few minutes.
  1601. [2011-12-30 12:23:07] <Bob> Also, internet cookie to whoever can guess WHICH of these 'uncontacted' tribes Seok Im, the Korean to hold the title of 'most knowledgeable about mundane martial arts' is named 'Friend/Brother to the People' of.
  1602. [2011-12-30 12:23:11] <Bob> For his shenanigans.
  1603. [2011-12-30 12:23:14] <Arkeus> Also, Alratan, no feeling good about preping to fight higher up we know nothing about at 4 am when we have stuff at 6am
  1604. [2011-12-30 12:23:35] <Guile> http://drmcninja.com/
  1605. [2011-12-30 12:24:39] <Guile> 'So how was your first experience with the American school system?' 'Years ago, I saw my father torn to death and eaten by wild animals. ... This is the worst day of my life.'
  1606. [2011-12-30 12:25:36] <Bob> That grumpy child face behind that impressive handlebar...
  1607. [2011-12-30 12:26:56] <Guile> The moustache is called the Moustache of Authority, and allows him to command people. Also, he rides a dinosaur. I feel confident saying Dr. McNinja is THE most over the top comic in the whole wide world
  1608. [2011-12-30 12:28:04] <Bob> You say that now...
  1609. [2011-12-30 12:28:38] <Bob> Just wait until certain people combine the hummingbird with a cuttlefish, an antlered stag, and a roc-and drive it into... the GROOVY side of madness.
  1610. [2011-12-30 12:29:47] <Guile> ... I kinda want to try drawing the hummingbird with antlers, an extra - larger - set of wings, and a tentacle beard like the Ika Turso now
  1611. [2011-12-30 12:30:25] <Arkeus> lol
  1612. [2011-12-30 12:30:27] <Bob> That slender beak-poking out from a tentacle beard. Tiny, twig sized antlers. Technicolor feathers that shift color-horiffically hooked and barbed but still to scale claws....
  1613. [2011-12-30 12:31:36] <Guile> and here I thought the hummingbird would mostly escape the craziness Armas subjects everyone to
  1614. [2011-12-30 12:31:50] <Bob> It's his Spirit Animal.
  1615. [2011-12-30 12:31:54] <Bob> It was doomed from the start
  1616. [2011-12-30 12:32:05] <Guile> how would we pitch it to him when he takes so much pride in his hummingbirdness?
  1617. [2011-12-30 12:32:51] <Guile> maybe we'll wait until he's a spirit animal and then innocently wonder why he grew a tentacle beard
  1618. [2011-12-30 12:33:26] <Bob> pitch it as 'they will make him more of a hummingbird' it's about your only chance.
  1619. [2011-12-30 12:33:29] <Bob> Might as well go all in
  1620. [2011-12-30 12:34:27] -->| someone (cgiirc@Rizon-EF6D9CE0.dynamic.qsc.de) has joined #golemquest
  1621. [2011-12-30 12:35:24] =-= someone is now known as Guest5049
  1622. [2011-12-30 12:35:47] <Bob> Was that renaming necessary Grail? Or is this Torac again?
  1623. [2011-12-30 12:36:39] <Guest5049> torac
  1624. [2011-12-30 12:37:01] <Guest5049> sorry, don't know how not to have my name changed after a while
  1625. [2011-12-30 12:38:00] <Bob> ah
  1626. [2011-12-30 12:38:05] <Bob> it does that if the name's protected
  1627. [2011-12-30 12:38:08] <Bob> as in someone registered it
  1628. [2011-12-30 12:38:15] <Bob> Torac is prolly unregistered
  1629. [2011-12-30 12:38:36] <Guest5049> then I will try that next time, thx for the info
  1630. [2011-12-30 12:41:19] <Arkeus> right, posted
  1631. [2011-12-30 12:45:29] <Guile> does Rocco want to tweak the higher-ups noses by killing everything in the warehouse and making off with the goods, or does he want to set a trap for the higher-ups?
  1632. [2011-12-30 12:45:45] <Arkeus> Unknown.
  1633. [2011-12-30 12:46:01] <Arkeus> That's why i Alratanm asking him if he would like us to kill everyone there without a squeak
  1634. [2011-12-30 12:46:07] <Guile> "Aw, man, everything- there's blood EVERYWHERE. Even- hey guys, is it getting cold in here or is it just me?"
  1635. [2011-12-30 12:47:10] <Arkeus> Nah, the 'slient' plan is mostly SB killing everyone without a mark
  1636. [2011-12-30 12:48:05] <Guile> shadow magic is rare, but these guys ARE operating in Cornelius's territory
  1637. [2011-12-30 12:48:05] <Arkeus> bob: the SB ownership field, it's 30m perimeter, or 30m radius?
  1638. [2011-12-30 12:48:12] <Guile> they MIGHT have a ward of some kind
  1639. [2011-12-30 12:49:00] <Arkeus> Mmmh, they might have, you are right- but i strongly doubt it.
  1640. [2011-12-30 12:49:17] <Arkeus> Why are you saying it's Cornelius territory?
  1641. [2011-12-30 12:50:00] <Bob> It would be his preference to completely clear out 'goon' type guys working for the other group before he even tries to touch the officers.
  1642. [2011-12-30 12:50:17] <Arkeus> Bob: about the ownership field? radius or perimeter?
  1643. [2011-12-30 12:50:54] <Arkeus> Also, given lo fang doesn't have a "shadow magi can't work here" ward, i strongly doubt a new warehouse would have one. Especially as that sounds incredibly hard to do.
  1644. [2011-12-30 12:51:29] <Bob> what Ownership field?
  1645. [2011-12-30 12:51:48] <Arkeus> SB told us he could exten a ownership field around himself up to 30m, iirc
  1646. [2011-12-30 12:52:04] <Arkeus> As in, the distance he can use shadowport in or some other stuffs
  1647. [2011-12-30 12:52:21] <Arkeus> Well, maybe it was around Armas
  1648. [2011-12-30 12:52:22] <Bob> Oh, then yes, that's radius. There is no perimeter for you to reshape
  1649. [2011-12-30 12:52:29] <Guile> not 'cant work', but 'hostile magic here'
  1650. [2011-12-30 12:52:40] <Guile> an alarm
  1651. [2011-12-30 12:52:41] <Arkeus> Radius is better, i wasn't thinking about reshaping
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  1653. [2011-12-30 12:53:12] <Arkeus> Guile: i am not thinking how an alarm, if everyone is dead, is any worse than making lots of noises forcing ourself in
  1654. [2011-12-30 12:53:21] <Bob> alarm-type sensor charms are way simpler than defensive sensor charms
  1655. [2011-12-30 12:53:51] <Arkeus> Makes sense.
  1656. [2011-12-30 12:54:25] <Arkeus> Bob: does our soul have any stealth currently, or do we need to find out how to activate it safely?
  1657. [2011-12-30 12:54:46] <Guile> I thought we were talking about SB scouting out first
  1658. [2011-12-30 12:55:02] <Arkeus> No, i am talking about SB shadowporting us in and killing everyone.
  1659. [2011-12-30 12:59:06] <Guile> So we may not actually WANT to do any recon. Considering the Nazis are the high-tech side, they probably have crazy perimeter alarms
  1660. [2011-12-30 12:59:16] <Guile> and we can't do shit yet against hi-tech
  1661. [2011-12-30 12:59:39] <Arkeus> Yeah, Retcons is probably not the best idea
  1662. [2011-12-30 12:59:53] <Arkeus> Striking hard from inside sounds fun
  1663. [2011-12-30 13:01:17] <Bob> What's this?
  1664. [2011-12-30 13:01:30] <Bob> You want to do a lightning raid ambush turned absolute slaughter?
  1665. [2011-12-30 13:01:50] <Guile> we did gas brandt. Pulling a blitzkrieg may be in keeping with our sense of humor
  1666. [2011-12-30 13:02:38] <Bob> How well did gassing Brandt work again?
  1667. [2011-12-30 13:02:41] <Arkeus> It's more that i don't think there is a real way to do anything but slaughtering them here
  1668. [2011-12-30 13:03:00] <Guile> Im not saying its a GOOD idea, just that Armas would probably be tickled
  1669. [2011-12-30 13:03:04] <Arkeus> Unless we are going to be able to make them run away, but even then...
  1670. [2011-12-30 13:03:16] <Bob> Oh, armas would be ticlked
  1671. [2011-12-30 13:03:17] <Arkeus> Maybe instead of slaughteringthem, we could know them all out.
  1672. [2011-12-30 13:03:20] <Bob> what would tickle him even more
  1673. [2011-12-30 13:03:39] <Bob> is if you made a list of things the Nazis were known to do-and slowly work your way through it, using a new thing each time you face them
  1674. [2011-12-30 13:03:48] <Arkeus> Heh.
  1675. [2011-12-30 13:03:50] <Guile> that would be great
  1676. [2011-12-30 13:03:54] <Bob> see how long it takes them to catch on to the fact you are using your war against them... to troll them
  1677. [2011-12-30 13:04:03] <Bob> All that bloodshed, violence, conflict-
  1678. [2011-12-30 13:04:05] <Arkeus> Heheheheh
  1679. [2011-12-30 13:04:15] <Bob> All for Armas to get in some trollish chuckles
  1680. [2011-12-30 13:04:18] <Arkeus> What other thing were they known for?
  1681. [2011-12-30 13:04:25] <Bob> Loving wunderwaffen
  1682. [2011-12-30 13:04:25] <Guile> ... yep, need to do that. Lets see, blitzkrieg, luftwaffe, trench warfare, crazy science...
  1683. [2011-12-30 13:04:32] <Bob> using massively oversized guns
  1684. [2011-12-30 13:04:49] <Arkeus> We did that last time
  1685. [2011-12-30 13:04:50] <Bob> Oh, give your Russians helmets with a metal spike on top
  1686. [2011-12-30 13:04:51] <Guile> the werewolf/occult thing, but we dont have any of those
  1687. [2011-12-30 13:05:00] <Arkeus> yet
  1688. [2011-12-30 13:05:08] <Bob> who's going to suspect them of being Ex-russian soldiers when they can speak fluent Turkish and English-and have German helmets?
  1689. [2011-12-30 13:05:10] <Bob> No one, that's who.
  1690. [2011-12-30 13:05:20] <Arkeus> ... this is tempting
  1691. [2011-12-30 13:05:26] <Arkeus> Could Amen make them on the spot?
  1692. [2011-12-30 13:05:34] <Guile> Dont see why not
  1693. [2011-12-30 13:05:34] <Bob> Give him metal
  1694. [2011-12-30 13:05:40] <Arkeus> We have metal?
  1695. [2011-12-30 13:05:43] <Bob> he has trouble making wholly inorganic material
  1696. [2011-12-30 13:05:45] <Guile> we can buy metal
  1697. [2011-12-30 13:05:47] <Bob> no, as in-go get metal
  1698. [2011-12-30 13:06:18] <Arkeus> Huh, that would lose us some time for tonight's raid
  1699. [2011-12-30 13:06:19] <Bob> ...Paint each helmet orange. Charm the spike so that any shot fired at the face will get attracted to the spike.
  1700. [2011-12-30 13:06:27] <Bob> Trollish and useful head protection
  1701. [2011-12-30 13:06:30] <Arkeus> eheh
  1702. [2011-12-30 13:06:37] <Arkeus> Only used against Nazis
  1703. [2011-12-30 13:06:58] <Guile> "Well, we could have done recon, but we were busy!" "Yes, I notice the new headgear." "Totally worth it."
  1704. [2011-12-30 13:06:59] <Arkeus> Anyway, for tonight... the plan would be what? going in the night and deporting them?
  1705. [2011-12-30 13:07:09] <Arkeus> Guile: lol
  1706. [2011-12-30 13:07:21] <Bob> If I may advice you all on your plotting:
  1707. [2011-12-30 13:07:26] <Bob> They are mundanes, yes
  1708. [2011-12-30 13:07:41] <Bob> but sitting on a MASSIVE pile of mundane and magical implements, which they know how to operate.
  1709. [2011-12-30 13:08:08] <Bob> As in, enough magic at least half of them, if given the chance, could BLackbeard themselves with Charms. THAT'S how much shit is there.
  1710. [2011-12-30 13:08:11] <Arkeus> Still, i think SB should be able to Shadowport our strike Force in
  1711. [2011-12-30 13:08:17] <Arkeus> Wow
  1712. [2011-12-30 13:08:18] <Arkeus> nice
  1713. [2011-12-30 13:08:21] <Bob> It's actually a good thing you're attacking it-they were going to be moving out with all that shit in two days.
  1714. [2011-12-30 13:08:26] <Guile> and if they have a sensor that tells them we're teleporting in?
  1715. [2011-12-30 13:08:32] <Guile> and where?
  1716. [2011-12-30 13:08:37] <Arkeus> Guile: how is that useful?
  1717. [2011-12-30 13:08:49] <Bob> Uh...
  1718. [2011-12-30 13:08:52] <Arkeus> "OH, SOMEONE IS GOING TO APPEAR IN HALF A SECOND!"
  1719. [2011-12-30 13:08:53] <Arkeus> ...
  1720. [2011-12-30 13:09:18] <Guile> "Point guns here!" In one second they could get their guns at least halfway to where we're appearing
  1721. [2011-12-30 13:09:37] <Guile> mind you, they might not be that alert... but they COULD be
  1722. [2011-12-30 13:09:38] <Arkeus> It's a warehouse- there are defensive places
  1723. [2011-12-30 13:09:42] <Bob> Which, Arkeus, do you think takes longer: A person abruptly pulled through space and the Dark in a horrifying ride to appear somewhere new and catch your bearings before firing-OR having an alarm go off, and seeing someone who should not be there-and shooting them?
  1724. [2011-12-30 13:09:44] <Guile> or charms that DELAY our teleporting
  1725. [2011-12-30 13:10:07] <Arkeus> bob: appearing beneath a defensive place is obvious
  1726. [2011-12-30 13:10:29] <Arkeus> It's not like SB will make us appear in line of sight of enemies
  1727. [2011-12-30 13:10:30] <Guile> should we start throwing out ideas for the assault in quest, bob?
  1728. [2011-12-30 13:10:37] <Guile> or will that be update after next?
  1729. [2011-12-30 13:10:46] <Bob> You should compile them-update after this upcoming one
  1730. [2011-12-30 13:10:57] <Arkeus> Good question i thought that the assault would be finished midway through update
  1731. [2011-12-30 13:11:02] <Bob> And Arkeus, what if Guile's right and they have teleportation delay charms?
  1732. [2011-12-30 13:11:04] <Arkeus> If it isn't, we might have time to really plan it
  1733. [2011-12-30 13:11:15] <Bob> Again, those are easier to make than teleport denial charms.
  1734. [2011-12-30 13:11:26] <Arkeus> Mmmh, right.
  1735. [2011-12-30 13:11:47] <Arkeus> If there is enough for a dozen blackbeard there, it could be problematic
  1736. [2011-12-30 13:11:58] <Bob> The point I'm trying to make here, is that (normal people) + (a pile of magic items) =/= normal foes.
  1737. [2011-12-30 13:12:05] <Arkeus> I guess we may have trouble doing it sliently :-(
  1738. [2011-12-30 13:12:12] <Guile> well, theyre sitting on it, not necessarily using it. but if they come under attack and all that fancy shit is just sitting there...
  1739. [2011-12-30 13:12:24] <Bob> You KNOW they are going to use it like candy
  1740. [2011-12-30 13:12:35] <Bob> I mean, why WOULDN"T they, when under attack from a superior force?
  1741. [2011-12-30 13:12:46] <Arkeus> Sure, but i thought those kinds of charms were rare
  1742. [2011-12-30 13:12:56] <Bob> what kind?
  1743. [2011-12-30 13:12:58] <Arkeus> and not "well, they have hundreds of them"
  1744. [2011-12-30 13:13:14] <Arkeus> Charm thaty would make one insta-blackbeard
  1745. [2011-12-30 13:13:24] <Guile> This is a global organization's stockpile
  1746. [2011-12-30 13:13:29] <Arkeus> I also had no idea there was anything magical in the warehouse
  1747. [2011-12-30 13:13:31] <Bob> I said that, to reference 'massive pile of defensive charms here'
  1748. [2011-12-30 13:13:41] <Bob> Expendable charms still do the job
  1749. [2011-12-30 13:13:47] <Bob> and all things considered
  1750. [2011-12-30 13:13:53] <Bob> are cheap as shit, so far as charms go
  1751. [2011-12-30 13:13:58] <Guile> and any expendable charms they burn up is one less that we - well, Rocco - gets
  1752. [2011-12-30 13:13:58] <Arkeus> Ah, so it's harder to use- harder to put on and so on
  1753. [2011-12-30 13:14:03] <Bob> No
  1754. [2011-12-30 13:14:04] <Guile> actually, burning those out might be okay
  1755. [2011-12-30 13:14:28] <Bob> You just clip on the brooch/slip on the ring/put on the necklace-and boom, protected.
  1756. [2011-12-30 13:14:42] <Bob> hell, just grab a handful of necklaces and put them all on at once
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  1758. [2011-12-30 13:14:45] <Arkeus> bob: yes, harder to use
  1759. [2011-12-30 13:14:46] <Guile> if they were a fancy rig like BB's got, maybe itd be harder
  1760. [2011-12-30 13:14:57] <Arkeus> unless they can do that movement a hundred time in one second or two
  1761. [2011-12-30 13:15:00] <Guile> but a handful of bullet-blockers, theyre good
  1762. [2011-12-30 13:15:21] <Bob> Arkeus: two hands, and necklaces/amulets can be put on in bundles
  1763. [2011-12-30 13:16:15] <Bob> Even worst case scenario for them, and they only get a charm on a piece-while you work your way through that first few that fight, the rest have time to pile on MORE charms.
  1764. [2011-12-30 13:16:29] <Arkeus> Mmmh. Still think you are trolling about what is in the warehouse, but still deleted the post, as it COULD be true
  1765. [2011-12-30 13:16:34] <Bob> It's not the enemies you need to worry about, really-it's what they have access to.
  1766. [2011-12-30 13:16:47] <Guile> And any of the 30 could theoretically become BB if we give them any time at all
  1767. [2011-12-30 13:16:48] <Arkeus> And, bob, i wasn't planning on firing at all
  1768. [2011-12-30 13:16:56] <Arkeus> I was planning for SB to kill them all
  1769. [2011-12-30 13:17:06] <Bob> Haha-sure, why not
  1770. [2011-12-30 13:17:07] <Bob> try that
  1771. [2011-12-30 13:17:11] <Bob> It might work
  1772. [2011-12-30 13:17:19] <Bob> Though have to ask
  1773. [2011-12-30 13:17:23] <Arkeus> Yeah, some of those charms might be bad for that
  1774. [2011-12-30 13:17:24] <Bob> if SB kills them all
  1775. [2011-12-30 13:17:25] <Arkeus> in fact, lethal
  1776. [2011-12-30 13:17:32] <Bob> why would Rocco pay you for anything but SB's services?
  1777. [2011-12-30 13:17:37] <Bob> No one else you brought did anything
  1778. [2011-12-30 13:17:48] <Arkeus> Bob: that's why the plan was to do it without rocco
  1779. [2011-12-30 13:17:58] <Guile> then we wouldnt get paid at all?
  1780. [2011-12-30 13:18:02] <Arkeus> and preferable without anyone but Armas and maybe a couple others
  1781. [2011-12-30 13:18:19] <Bob> And the men he sends to make sure the job's done-when THEY comment you didn't visibly do shit... what's your work around for that?
  1782. [2011-12-30 13:18:23] <Guile> oh, you mean go in early, kill errybody, take defensive pile. Rocco may figure that out, though
  1783. [2011-12-30 13:18:25] <Arkeus> But it seems you are saying we are being paid by the man- not by the job
  1784. [2011-12-30 13:18:46] <Arkeus> Bob: what men? they'll arrive when the job's done
  1785. [2011-12-30 13:18:51] <Arkeus> "I use magic to kill them"
  1786. [2011-12-30 13:19:02] <Bob> No-you are being paid on successful delivery of agreed services-that being, show up with purchased muscle, apply muscle, return for pay once enemies be dead.
  1787. [2011-12-30 13:19:03] <Guile> that would be my preference, pay by the agent over the job
  1788. [2011-12-30 13:19:05] <Arkeus> Guile: yeah, that was the plan
  1789. [2011-12-30 13:19:15] <Guile> otherwise, the 'job' is technically 'killing 30 mundanes'
  1790. [2011-12-30 13:19:27] <Arkeus> Well, i THOUGHT the job was that
  1791. [2011-12-30 13:19:36] <Arkeus> i had no idea there was anything magical in the warehouse at first
  1792. [2011-12-30 13:19:43] <Bob> Arkeus: ....PLEASE tell me you aren't dumb enough to think Rocco would even entertain the idea of not even sending along his own men too when you know he's going all in to kill these fucks
  1793. [2011-12-30 13:19:48] <Bob> I mean really Ark
  1794. [2011-12-30 13:19:55] <Bob> A million dollars or so of service?
  1795. [2011-12-30 13:20:07] <Bob> And you think he'd just.... trust you, completely, to provide as promised?
  1796. [2011-12-30 13:20:13] <Bob> How many times have you worked with him?
  1797. [2011-12-30 13:20:17] <Bob> How trollish are you?
  1798. [2011-12-30 13:20:21] <Arkeus> Bob: Again, what i wanted to Ask rocco is if he minded if we did the job ourselves- if he does mind, then yes, we need to bring muscles
  1799. [2011-12-30 13:20:21] <Bob> ...Have you even MET Armas?
  1800. [2011-12-30 13:20:34] <Arkeus> ahahah
  1801. [2011-12-30 13:20:39] <Arkeus> True enough
  1802. [2011-12-30 13:20:47] <Arkeus> I also had no idea this was a million $ job
  1803. [2011-12-30 13:20:57] <Bob> Did you not read the suggestions?
  1804. [2011-12-30 13:21:00] <Arkeus> thought it was, Maaaaaaaaaaaybe a 150k job
  1805. [2011-12-30 13:21:00] <Bob> Or the chat
  1806. [2011-12-30 13:21:01] <Arkeus> at most
  1807. [2011-12-30 13:21:05] <Bob> that you were part of last night?
  1808. [2011-12-30 13:21:11] <Arkeus> i wasn't part
  1809. [2011-12-30 13:21:18] <Arkeus> i woke up when people were going away
  1810. [2011-12-30 13:21:31] <Bob> All right-fine, you missed that
  1811. [2011-12-30 13:21:35] <Arkeus> Mostly skimmed for answers to questions
  1812. [2011-12-30 13:21:55] <Arkeus> But, yeah, it seems this job is much more than i thought.
  1813. [2011-12-30 13:22:16] <Arkeus> Anyway, i did delete my post ten or so minutes ago- have to revise how to go about it.
  1814. [2011-12-30 13:22:18] <Bob> but still, I just cannot fathom you you think a Criminal Organization Boss would be okay with just trusting a contracting party to handle a big job without supervision-oh, and do so when the target's sitting on a massive sotckpile that Rocco damned well wants.
  1815. [2011-12-30 13:22:44] <Bob> I mean really man. I honestly want to get why you think he WOULD have gone for 'just handle it yourselves'
  1816. [2011-12-30 13:22:53] <Arkeus> Because 1°) that's what Savoy did, 2°) i had no idea there was a stockpile.
  1817. [2011-12-30 13:22:54] <Guile> Rocco didnt mention the nature of the stockpile, did he?
  1818. [2011-12-30 13:23:00] <Arkeus> yeah
  1819. [2011-12-30 13:23:07] <Arkeus> I thought it was just basic stuff
  1820. [2011-12-30 13:23:12] <Bob> Like what?
  1821. [2011-12-30 13:23:24] <Arkeus> Like low grade smuggling
  1822. [2011-12-30 13:23:26] <Bob> And Rocco WOULDN'T want a Warehouse of that?
  1823. [2011-12-30 13:23:29] <Guile> even hi-tech weapons would be a problem, given we're better on offense than defense
  1824. [2011-12-30 13:23:54] <Arkeus> I thought it was a wareshouse of things to sell on the market
  1825. [2011-12-30 13:24:06] <Arkeus> Maybe suits, i don't know
  1826. [2011-12-30 13:24:07] <Bob> EVEN THEN
  1827. [2011-12-30 13:24:10] <Bob> WHY
  1828. [2011-12-30 13:24:14] <Bob> WOULD A CRIMINAL
  1829. [2011-12-30 13:24:15] <Bob> NOT
  1830. [2011-12-30 13:24:18] <Bob> WANT ALL THAT SHIT
  1831. [2011-12-30 13:24:48] <Arkeus> True enough. I just didn't think greedily.
  1832. [2011-12-30 13:25:11] <Guile> and there was your mistake; we are Armas. We ALWAYS need to think greedily.
  1833. [2011-12-30 13:25:14] <Bob> Short of being filled with rice or some very, very low cost item-there's nothing you could have one criminal group fill a warehouse with that another, conflicting criminal group would not want to get their hands on it.
  1834. [2011-12-30 13:25:28] <Guile> well, specifically, you were thinking greedily with Armas, but not from Greedy!Rocco's perspective
  1835. [2011-12-30 13:25:40] <Arkeus> Guile: not evne greedily with Armas
  1836. [2011-12-30 13:25:44] <Bob> Guns? Want it. Bullets? Want it. Counterfeit money? Want it. Black market goods? Want it. Drugs? Want it.
  1837. [2011-12-30 13:25:45] <Arkeus> i just wanted to get that assault over
  1838. [2011-12-30 13:25:48] <Bob> You note the pattern here?
  1839. [2011-12-30 13:25:52] <Arkeus> Thought it was a half-post long thing
  1840. [2011-12-30 13:25:59] <Arkeus> like, ended by the middle of next post
  1841. [2011-12-30 13:25:59] <Guile> 'Get in, kill everyone, take everything' is pretty typical of Armas
  1842. [2011-12-30 13:26:26] <Arkeus> Guile: didn't care for the 'take everything'
  1843. [2011-12-30 13:26:58] <Arkeus> It was more 'get this over with'
  1844. [2011-12-30 13:27:15] <Guile> once we kill Doony, the Bosphorus is less dangerous for us- we might be able to pull off a Kriegsmarine U-boat attack on any warehouses the germans have
  1845. [2011-12-30 13:27:28] <Arkeus> ... ahahaha
  1846. [2011-12-30 13:27:44] <Guile> okay, it'd be the cheap variety involving Hillevi creating a sub out of ice, but still
  1847. [2011-12-30 13:27:50] <Arkeus> So, bob, do we actually have time before the assault, or is it supposed to be in half an hour or something?
  1848. [2011-12-30 13:27:56] <Guile> 5 hours
  1849. [2011-12-30 13:27:59] <Guile> one update
  1850. [2011-12-30 13:28:34] <Arkeus> I wouldn't take Einrik with us as an employee- we can't justify that.
  1851. [2011-12-30 13:28:44] * Bob refraining from responding because he's finally recognizing he's grouchy this morning and doesn't want to be a complete overbearing dick just because someone didn't pay attention to a wall of words.
  1852. [2011-12-30 13:28:47] <Arkeus> We cna Justify Hillevi though.
  1853. [2011-12-30 13:28:59] <Arkeus> Pfff!
  1854. [2011-12-30 13:29:04] <Arkeus> Embrace the dick, bob
  1855. [2011-12-30 13:29:06] <Bob> Can you justify Hillevi?
  1856. [2011-12-30 13:29:09] <Arkeus> Also, it's almost 9pm
  1857. [2011-12-30 13:29:15] <Bob> I'll embrace my dick, thank you very much
  1858. [2011-12-30 13:29:40] <Bob> I mean, you are her warder-and responsible for her learning. Dad said fighting's fine-but mercenary work? What did he say about that?
  1859. [2011-12-30 13:29:43] <Guile> Hillevi's not on the books, but its not like we're a legitimate organization yet, anyway
  1860. [2011-12-30 13:29:51] <Guile> he said Nazis were fine
  1861. [2011-12-30 13:30:01] <Arkeus> We can justify taking Hillevi with us, yes. Toward Markku because he liked the idea of fighting Nazi, and toward Rocko because he doesn't need to know everything
  1862. [2011-12-30 13:30:10] <Bob> Are you sure he'd be okay with your thrusting her into the world of 'get paid to kill things' rather than 'kill the things that are okay to kill per the code of Hammurabi'
  1863. [2011-12-30 13:30:18] <Guile> hmm.... true
  1864. [2011-12-30 13:30:23] <Guile> yes, we may want to amend that
  1865. [2011-12-30 13:30:25] <Arkeus> What is Hammurabi?
  1866. [2011-12-30 13:30:34] <Arkeus> Also, i didn't say paying hillevi
  1867. [2011-12-30 13:30:38] <Arkeus> i said taking her with us
  1868. [2011-12-30 13:30:41] <Bob> Easiest way to reference the mentality of 'might makes right'
  1869. [2011-12-30 13:30:46] <Arkeus> lol
  1870. [2011-12-30 13:30:55] <Guile> 'people trying to kill you? kill them. people stealing from you? take their hand or make them your slave.'
  1871. [2011-12-30 13:31:03] <Arkeus> So cute
  1872. [2011-12-30 13:31:14] <Bob> But if you get paid for her being there, and she learns you just kept it-warden or no, she's learned enough from her brief stint with soaps to know that CLEARLY she should be outraged.
  1873. [2011-12-30 13:31:24] <Guile> lol
  1874. [2011-12-30 13:31:24] <Arkeus> Also, Agent: The bird should totally be worth 200K by himself
  1875. [2011-12-30 13:31:41] <Arkeus> bob: we are not keeping it from her
  1876. [2011-12-30 13:31:55] <Guile> Bird+Armas+SB+Sake = 1mil, or so I hope
  1877. [2011-12-30 13:31:57] <Arkeus> We are putting it into her pocket money account
  1878. [2011-12-30 13:32:03] <Guile> 200k for every job covered
  1879. [2011-12-30 13:32:11] <Bob> Then: Why would a PC be cool with your making money for her work? And if you plan to pay her-are you sure Markku's okay with this?
  1880. [2011-12-30 13:32:15] <Bob> I'm not saying don't do it
  1881. [2011-12-30 13:32:18] <Arkeus> Pff, i would prefer not mentionning SB or Sake
  1882. [2011-12-30 13:32:22] <Bob> I'm saying-have you thought this through?
  1883. [2011-12-30 13:32:30] <Arkeus> but Agent: The Bird should be worth 200K
  1884. [2011-12-30 13:32:34] <Bob> So long as you are prepared for possible eventualities, that's all I care.
  1885. [2011-12-30 13:32:43] <Arkeus> We are not paying her
  1886. [2011-12-30 13:32:46] <Arkeus> it's pocket money
  1887. [2011-12-30 13:32:49] <Arkeus> >_>
  1888. [2011-12-30 13:33:09] <Bob> ....Can you wordsmith that argument convincingly to another player and her overprotective NPC father?
  1889. [2011-12-30 13:33:20] <Arkeus> Mmmh.. maybe we should be paying einrik for Hillevi coming...
  1890. [2011-12-30 13:33:36] <Bob> ...That...... hold on, let me check me notes.
  1891. [2011-12-30 13:33:40] <Arkeus> She would be so happy to hear that lol
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  1893. [2011-12-30 13:36:14] <Bob> Welp. Can't find a single reason why Markku'd be mad in the event of you bringing along Hillevi, but paying Einrik her part of the fee you get so that you acted as a middle man to transact the Valkonens hiring out THEMSELVES, rather than being hired out by you.
  1894. [2011-12-30 13:36:17] <Guile> 'paying Einrik for Hillevi coming'... so the Valkonens do the 'bride-price' thing? Because that could be misconstrued pretty heavily
  1895. [2011-12-30 13:36:24] <Bob> It would mean you personally don't get paid for her presence.
  1896. [2011-12-30 13:36:36] <Bob> But you now have a no-strings way to get her on the battlefield.
  1897. [2011-12-30 13:36:38] <Guile> excuse me, 'do the Valkonens'*
  1898. [2011-12-30 13:36:46] <Arkeus> That's cool
  1899. [2011-12-30 13:37:13] <Bob> Nice wordplay Guile, but I think you know what I mean, and know how easily derailed with shenanigans I am
  1900. [2011-12-30 13:37:17] <Arkeus> We'd have to check it out with Einrik first but that's easily done and cool.
  1901. [2011-12-30 13:37:23] <Bob> Trying to be semi-productive and helpful to you guys
  1902. [2011-12-30 13:37:24] <Bob> for now
  1903. [2011-12-30 13:37:32] <Arkeus> lol
  1904. [2011-12-30 13:37:37] <Guile> fair enough. we can do shenanigans later, as usual
  1905. [2011-12-30 13:37:45] <Bob> Sounds good
  1906. [2011-12-30 13:37:50] <Arkeus> I so want to make "The Bird" be whispered in terror around istanbul
  1907. [2011-12-30 13:37:56] <Bob> Or now if you three run out of questions for right now
  1908. [2011-12-30 13:37:56] <Arkeus> Armas' secret Angent
  1909. [2011-12-30 13:37:59] <Arkeus> Agent
  1910. [2011-12-30 13:38:08] <Bob> Call it:
  1911. [2011-12-30 13:38:11] <Bob> 'The Hummer'
  1912. [2011-12-30 13:38:13] <Arkeus> :D
  1913. [2011-12-30 13:38:22] <Bob> And always drive to The Hummer's jobs in a hummer
  1914. [2011-12-30 13:38:29] <Bob> and then just stand there while he does his thing
  1915. [2011-12-30 13:38:37] <Arkeus> hehehehehehe
  1916. [2011-12-30 13:38:44] <Arkeus> He will gain so much XP lol
  1917. [2011-12-30 13:38:50] <Bob> maybe smoke a cig, check your text messages....
  1918. [2011-12-30 13:38:54] <Bob> You know, occupy yourself
  1919. [2011-12-30 13:39:03] <Guile> We could potentially make the Bird a terror for anybody that uses magical shields Bird can pierce through. *Armas leaning against the hummer while screams of "The Hummer wasn't the car! It wasn't the car at all!" echo in the background*
  1920. [2011-12-30 13:39:21] <Arkeus> Heheheheheheheehhe
  1921. [2011-12-30 13:39:22] <A_Greedy_Squid> Your bird is the bird that will pierce the magics?
  1922. [2011-12-30 13:39:51] <Bob> It's innately inclined to magic piercing, from it's assault orientation, it's history, and it's connection to your massive battery of magic
  1923. [2011-12-30 13:39:51] <Guile> Hummingbird shifts direction+accelerates so rapidly his beak becomes a drill?
  1924. [2011-12-30 13:40:17] <Arkeus> I.... Actually would give Hummy a good chance against Hillevi
  1925. [2011-12-30 13:40:23] <Arkeus> Hell, maybe against Lammy
  1926. [2011-12-30 13:40:29] <Guile> Dunno if his beak could actually pierce her
  1927. [2011-12-30 13:40:40] <Guile> but I sure doubt she could catch him, either
  1928. [2011-12-30 13:40:50] <Bob> he can fly forward in an accelerating spiral-an amazingly tight aileron roll that repeats ad nauseum
  1929. [2011-12-30 13:41:06] <Arkeus> Poor Sake learned who was the Hummy
  1930. [2011-12-30 13:41:08] <Bob> he doesn't like doing it because it makes him dizzy, going fast enough in the spin it actually matters.
  1931. [2011-12-30 13:41:24] <Guile> that would suck from the point of view of the bird
  1932. [2011-12-30 13:41:40] <Bob> All it sees that DOESN'T wildly shift-is the target
  1933. [2011-12-30 13:41:50] <Guile> still... if we ever find something that absolutely needs to be pierced and the regular beak aint doing it...
  1934. [2011-12-30 13:41:52] <Bob> nothing else even exists, as interpretable stimulus-but THE TARGET
  1935. [2011-12-30 13:42:17] <Guile> oh yeah, Determinator Bird is go.
  1936. [2011-12-30 13:44:43] <Bob> Any more questions?
  1937. [2011-12-30 13:44:56] <Bob> The lack of input is slowly eroding my ability to resist shenanigans
  1938. [2011-12-30 13:44:58] <Arkeus> yeah
  1939. [2011-12-30 13:45:29] <Arkeus> The Soul stealth- do we currently have any soul stealth? if we do, can it be enhanced by learning more properly about it?
  1940. [2011-12-30 13:47:48] <Guile> we have stealth chakra, but not Darkening stealth, I think?
  1941. [2011-12-30 13:47:59] <Bob> You have a shitty, shitty, shitty little self-made version that Einrik attempted to not mock you for when you thought it'd flush your system of chakra
  1942. [2011-12-30 13:48:13] <Bob> It's horrifically inefficient to 'stealth' but it's the closest you got
  1943. [2011-12-30 13:48:30] <Arkeus> So we don't currently have any soul stealth?
  1944. [2011-12-30 13:49:09] <Arkeus> Btw, i am a bit surprised Einrik said it was new- wasn't it the same we used during our whole trip to the Valkonen?
  1945. [2011-12-30 13:49:12] <Bob> You 'have' Darkening stealth, but you have not yet started learning how to use it-understandable, given that it's amazing flexiblity and utility in self-soul sculpting makes it.... dangerous, to the headstrong and reckless.
  1946. [2011-12-30 13:49:18] <Arkeus> Or is it a imperfect version of it?
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  1948. [2011-12-30 13:49:40] <Guile> its just something we came up with on our own one afternoon, hence inefficient
  1949. [2011-12-30 13:49:53] <Arkeus> So Darkening Stealth is wholly active- nothing passive about it?
  1950. [2011-12-30 13:49:59] <Bob> It's new, in that before it was an umblical cord to the fetal SB. Now it shunts energy for him to manipulate. Given that energy to SB portion is the majority of the chakra orientation, having it change changed the whole thing's feel
  1951. [2011-12-30 13:50:03] <Arkeus> I mean, unless we soul sculpt
  1952. [2011-12-30 13:50:09] <Bob> that is correct Arkeus
  1953. [2011-12-30 13:50:26] <Bob> there is no 'passive' aspect to Darkening, save that which you soul-sculpt yourself to have as a passive spiritual effect.
  1954. [2011-12-30 13:50:37] <Arkeus> Mmmh ok
  1955. [2011-12-30 13:51:08] <Arkeus> And currently we can't use the basic amorphous soul without self soul scluping
  1956. [2011-12-30 13:51:28] <Arkeus> Would learning Chakra to Journeyman be enough for beginning with this?
  1957. [2011-12-30 13:51:54] <Bob> How would Armas know-and then, as a followup, why would I answer that?
  1958. [2011-12-30 13:52:47] <Arkeus> Because you are such a generous guy?
  1959. [2011-12-30 13:52:53] <Guile> could we learn a chakra configuration that shunts energy to SB, Sake and Hummingbird entirely, leaving none to saturate our flesh?
  1960. [2011-12-30 13:52:54] <Bob> Meta gaming is something I'm not the best at detecting, some of you do it flagrantly, some of you do it unknowingly. But I've finally gotten it pounded into my skull that some shit I just cannot share in chat until it becomes in-character knowledge
  1961. [2011-12-30 13:53:14] <Arkeus> Fair enough.
  1962. [2011-12-30 13:53:30] <Arkeus> I think meta-gaming is something we mostly do unknowingly
  1963. [2011-12-30 13:53:33] <Bob> Guile: a three-part splitting of the soul's energy for soul brothers (which are commonly duos or trios) is pretty simple to learn-the only problem is it'd still leave you with a third
  1964. [2011-12-30 13:53:46] <Bob> There are also chakra styles to shunt energy into spirit animals from chakras
  1965. [2011-12-30 13:53:53] <Bob> but each are entirely different orientations
  1966. [2011-12-30 13:54:07] <Guile> We do try, mostly. The 'argument about whats happens if we timetravel to ancient japan' was just for shits and giggles
  1967. [2011-12-30 13:54:14] <Arkeus> I still think Attention sense might be conceptual enough
  1968. [2011-12-30 13:54:21] <Bob> you'd need to custom build one to get it to do what you want, here-but that said, it wouldn't be that complicated of a customization, in the grand scheme of things.
  1969. [2011-12-30 13:54:26] <Guile> ah, cant do both at once... without a bigger knowledge base and time to experiment?
  1970. [2011-12-30 13:54:45] <Bob> Guile, I know yours was just to set SB up for an EPIC I told you so. I was not using your recent post as an example
  1971. [2011-12-30 13:54:55] <Guile> gotcha
  1972. [2011-12-30 13:54:56] <Arkeus> Also, i want chakra alignment for Social and Mental traits
  1973. [2011-12-30 13:55:22] <Arkeus> bob: actually, most of the arguments for people who wanted trapmaking was because "TROLLING"
  1974. [2011-12-30 13:55:23] <Guile> besides some chakra to power up our thinky muscles, I dunno if that will work, Ark
  1975. [2011-12-30 13:55:38] <Arkeus> Well, SB believes conceptual chakra alignment exists
  1976. [2011-12-30 13:56:12] <Bob> Arkeus: completely irrelevant to my commentary thus far. In no way did I intimate it was not this. I was speaking of generalities-which, in general, do not target specifics.
  1977. [2011-12-30 13:56:32] <Arkeus> I wasn't disagreeing with what you said- i do agree.
  1978. [2011-12-30 13:56:48] <Arkeus> I was just commenting on how in this particular instance Armas kinda used a stupid argument
  1979. [2011-12-30 13:57:38] <Arkeus> For example, i am using somewhat meta thing right now by deleting my post about going there alone and killing everyone to come back for supper.
  1980. [2011-12-30 13:57:48] <Bob> In the name of setting up a prank, Armas will speak however he must. Even if he doesn't KNOW it will be a prank... yet.
  1981. [2011-12-30 13:57:54] <Arkeus> Because apparently this isn't your 'monday morning before breakfast' walk
  1982. [2011-12-30 13:58:06] <Arkeus> Bob: ahah
  1983. [2011-12-30 13:58:35] <Arkeus> So, you did say that Item Charming would need armas to learn a specific field if he wants to be efficient?
  1984. [2011-12-30 13:58:36] <Bob> I still don't see why you thought it would be-no matter what else is there, an 'open expense account' would seem to suggest there's zero chance of this being a cakewalk.
  1985. [2011-12-30 13:58:47] <Bob> You mean charm-making?
  1986. [2011-12-30 13:58:50] <Arkeus> yeah
  1987. [2011-12-30 13:58:52] <A_Greedy_Squid> >It's horrifically inefficient to 'stealth' but it's the closest you got
  1988. [2011-12-30 13:58:59] <Arkeus> Iirc, you called it item charming a few times.
  1989. [2011-12-30 13:59:01] <A_Greedy_Squid> And I was proud this morning of our "stealth" technique
  1990. [2011-12-30 13:59:05] <Bob> Yes, he would given how many hours you have.
  1991. [2011-12-30 13:59:36] <Bob> UU, you also LIKE Amen
  1992. [2011-12-30 13:59:47] <Bob> so obviously there's something wrong with you
  1993. [2011-12-30 13:59:59] <Arkeus> Kinda surprises me- i seem to remember you saying that Armas would constantly redifine how much he could learn from goblinoic item charming with him progressing in soul manip/ chakra manip
  1994. [2011-12-30 14:00:12] <Arkeus> OTOH, this migh mean "the better he is, the more he can learn in a limited time"
  1995. [2011-12-30 14:00:39] <A_Greedy_Squid> >.>
  1996. [2011-12-30 14:00:48] <Bob> That is true-and that in no way changes how fast he learns short of him getting a trick specifically for it-and does nothing about how many hours he has available to learn. Increased the total amount you can learn when you already don't have enough to hit your cap is... irrelevant.
  1997. [2011-12-30 14:01:31] <Arkeus> Ok, so it IS about the total cap
  1998. [2011-12-30 14:01:33] <Arkeus> Good to know
  1999. [2011-12-30 14:01:57] <Arkeus> So i guess that if we want to get to the total cap, we would need something BIG to sell.
  2000. [2011-12-30 14:03:03] <Bob> amazingly big
  2001. [2011-12-30 14:03:11] <Arkeus> OTOH, there is the question- do we want, not only to sell something big, but to sell it to the goblins? They did get quite the power ups from Armas already.
  2002. [2011-12-30 14:03:15] <Bob> or some way to game the system to get ungodly amounts of hours from them
  2003. [2011-12-30 14:03:37] <Bob> Goblins are currently your number 2 most likely end game BBEG group thanks to your actions
  2004. [2011-12-30 14:03:44] <Arkeus> lol
  2005. [2011-12-30 14:03:51] <Bob> still haven't eclipsed the end-game BBEGS you were slated with at start
  2006. [2011-12-30 14:03:56] <Bob> but then, Gobbos started not even on that
  2007. [2011-12-30 14:03:59] <Bob> list
  2008. [2011-12-30 14:03:59] <Bob> so
  2009. [2011-12-30 14:04:03] <Arkeus> Ahahaha
  2010. [2011-12-30 14:04:30] <Arkeus> Yeah, this IS something hard not to be meta about, for example.
  2011. [2011-12-30 14:04:55] <Guile> we've known the gobbos could Bad End us for months. But Armas isnt really a 'big picture' guy
  2012. [2011-12-30 14:05:15] <Arkeus> #1 BBEG is definitely Camella
  2013. [2011-12-30 14:06:54] * A_Greedy_Squid snickers
  2014. [2011-12-30 14:07:41] <Guile> Its almost like the goblins werent telling us the whole truth when they said they didnt get involved in the big stuff because it had too much chance of failure! *gasp*
  2015. [2011-12-30 14:07:54] <Arkeus> 'Whole Truth'
  2016. [2011-12-30 14:08:05] <Guile> I feel betrayed
  2017. [2011-12-30 14:08:09] <A_Greedy_Squid> But...why? Why would they become a BBEG group against us...?
  2018. [2011-12-30 14:08:10] <Guile> and disillusioned
  2019. [2011-12-30 14:08:28] <Arkeus> A_Greedy_Squid: it could be Armas against them
  2020. [2011-12-30 14:08:38] <Guile> well, considering they now have goblin stealth, modern arms training, knowledge about everything AND a kaiju golem, and thats just what we've gotten them so far?
  2021. [2011-12-30 14:08:41] <Arkeus> Because, you know, Armas is still part of the lesser non-goblinoic race
  2022. [2011-12-30 14:08:58] <Arkeus> We haven't gotten them Goblinoic stealth
  2023. [2011-12-30 14:08:59] <Guile> I, for one, welcome our new goblinic overlords
  2024. [2011-12-30 14:09:04] <A_Greedy_Squid> The only reason that clicks is 'Armas knows too much'
  2025. [2011-12-30 14:09:09] <Arkeus> Guile: genocide
  2026. [2011-12-30 14:09:15] <Wutenheimer> actually yeah, camella would be the #1 bbeg
  2027. [2011-12-30 14:09:24] <Wutenheimer> if she finds out the horribly evil plans we havce
  2028. [2011-12-30 14:09:37] <Arkeus> Also, i am still bemused by why the Goblins couldn't get firearm training from someone else than Armas after they relized its value
  2029. [2011-12-30 14:09:43] <Arkeus> maybe they are trying to keep it secret?
  2030. [2011-12-30 14:09:45] <Guile> luckily, mind reading is not something she's mastered. ... ... yet. *Camella sees you. Forever.*
  2031. [2011-12-30 14:09:49] <Guile> *FOREVER*
  2032. [2011-12-30 14:09:53] <A_Greedy_Squid> Well...
  2033. [2011-12-30 14:10:08] <Arkeus> [30-12 | 21:09:32] <Wutenheimer> if she finds out the horribly evil plans we havce <= we don't have horribly evil plans. Yet.
  2034. [2011-12-30 14:10:09] <A_Greedy_Squid> Bob did say that with modern arms training the wyld gobbos would become much stronger, if memory serves right
  2035. [2011-12-30 14:10:40] <Guile> consider we killed an elf that was stronger and faster than us because he didnt understand what a flashbang was
  2036. [2011-12-30 14:11:08] <Guile> Speaking of... WHY do we not have a mountain of grenades and flashbangs on our coffee table?
  2037. [2011-12-30 14:11:33] <Wutenheimer> ^
  2038. [2011-12-30 14:11:33] <Arkeus> We asked Armas to buy them
  2039. [2011-12-30 14:11:37] <Arkeus> like, 10 times
  2040. [2011-12-30 14:11:43] <Wutenheimer> screw buying them, we have to learn to make them
  2041. [2011-12-30 14:11:46] <Arkeus> he event WENT to dealers and we aked him to get them
  2042. [2011-12-30 14:11:48] <Wutenheimer> or get a guy who does that
  2043. [2011-12-30 14:11:50] <Arkeus> as far as we know, he didn't
  2044. [2011-12-30 14:12:56] <Guile> We have Amen create a grenade-rack instead of a coat-rack in our foyer
  2045. [2011-12-30 14:13:36] <Guile> I believe this is a job for Vlad, gun's russian
  2046. [2011-12-30 14:13:45] <Guile> he shall be our terrible, war-crime-esque Arkus
  2047. [2011-12-30 14:14:02] <Guile> which is ironic, a bit, considering we shall be using his designs against Nazis
  2048. [2011-12-30 14:18:57] <Guile> okay, so for Nazi-trolls, we need: a U-boat. A zeppelin air raid. Poison gas. Trench warfare. Horrible MEDICAL SCIENCE. Werwolfes. To kidnap Hitler.
  2049. [2011-12-30 14:19:31] <Guile> in the body of Otto Skorzeny.
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  2051. [2011-12-30 14:20:59] <Guile> also, outfits. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_p3Q0eKo0OeI/TM9OXUEAYkI/AAAAAAAAMxA/K6oM6ygge38/s1600/Kapitanleutnant+in+the+Kriegsmarine.jpg
  2052. [2011-12-30 14:21:08] <Guile> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_p3Q0eKo0OeI/TM9PogX7CxI/AAAAAAAAMyI/-l9X-oyNK8Q/s1600/Hauptmann+of+the+Heer+(early+in+the+war).jpg
  2053. [2011-12-30 14:21:23] <Guile> http://www.google.com/imgres?q=luftwaffe&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&qscrl=1&nord=1&rlz=1T4ACGW_en___US377&biw=1366&bih=618&tbm=isch&tbnid=WNyRGsmQ8B3xSM:&imgrefurl=http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/album/german/p14559-luftwaffe-officer.html&docid=PkZzkICFnb9R7M&imgurl=http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/album/watermark.php%253Ffile%253D14559%2526size%253D1&w=501&h=600&ei=DB
  2054. [2011-12-30 14:26:08] <Guile> http://www.bundesarchiv.de/imperia/md/images/abteilungen/abtma/galerie_heeresgruppen_2/_48_hausser_1943-44_ca_bild_146-1973-122-16_800__501x0_0_47.jpg
  2055. [2011-12-30 14:26:19] <Guile> that is our hat
  2056. [2011-12-30 14:26:55] <Bob> Only...
  2057. [2011-12-30 14:26:58] <Bob> Neon Orange
  2058. [2011-12-30 14:27:05] <Bob> and it's got led lights inside it
  2059. [2011-12-30 14:27:09] <Bob> so it GLOWS
  2060. [2011-12-30 14:27:32] <Guile> blinky christmas-style lights, or neon like Vegas? These are the important questions
  2061. [2011-12-30 14:27:41] <Bob> neon like vegas
  2062. [2011-12-30 14:27:52] <Bob> Armas is OBVIOUSLY more a Vegas type than a Christmas type
  2063. [2011-12-30 14:28:00] <Guile> this is true
  2064. [2011-12-30 14:28:19] <Arkeus> lol
  2065. [2011-12-30 14:28:41] <Guile> of course, bling never goes out of style http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/Bayrische_Pickelhaube.jpg
  2066. [2011-12-30 14:29:39] <Guile> if it was good enough for Otto von Bismarck, it's good enough for Armas http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8d/Bismarck_pickelhaube.jpg
  2067. [2011-12-30 14:30:50] <Guile> we also need to steal and then attack the germans with a panzerfaust
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  2069. [2011-12-30 14:36:55] <Bob> Gempei war time, I think
  2070. [2011-12-30 14:37:49] <Arkeus> heh
  2071. [2011-12-30 14:37:52] <Arkeus> Gempei?
  2072. [2011-12-30 14:38:12] <Bob> Second war option for Shogun 2
  2073. [2011-12-30 14:38:18] <Arkeus> AH :-)
  2074. [2011-12-30 14:38:24] <Bob> Honestly, it's refreshing after playing default for a while
  2075. [2011-12-30 14:38:27] <Bob> new tech trees
  2076. [2011-12-30 14:38:30] <Bob> new units
  2077. [2011-12-30 14:38:31] <Bob> new clans
  2078. [2011-12-30 14:38:34] <Bob> way back in the past
  2079. [2011-12-30 14:38:41] <Arkeus> ahah
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  2081. [2011-12-30 14:41:46] <A_Mad_Oyster> Bob, I've got some questions...the sheath for our mere Markku gave us when we went hunting with him...do we still have it?
  2082. [2011-12-30 14:42:40] <A_Mad_Oyster> Now that Sake's in a female body...will she go into heat?
  2083. [2011-12-30 14:43:53] <Conil> ...
  2084. [2011-12-30 14:44:14] <A_Mad_Oyster> I think of the weirdest stuffs sometimes.
  2085. [2011-12-30 14:45:10] <Conil> Let's just talk about something else
  2086. [2011-12-30 14:47:28] <Bob> To UU's first and only question: yes, you still have it.
  2087. [2011-12-30 14:47:50] <Arkeus> lol
  2088. [2011-12-30 14:47:59] <A_Mad_Oyster> >.>
  2089. [2011-12-30 14:48:35] <Arkeus> bob: My post, the use of asking Einrik to set up a way to pay the Valkonenn what she is owed for Armas to act as middleman- Too meta?
  2090. [2011-12-30 14:48:59] <Bob> A bit too meta, yeah. I was planning to ignore that part and just use the rest come update time
  2091. [2011-12-30 14:49:04] <Bob> no reason to reup a post
  2092. [2011-12-30 14:49:06] <Bob> AGAIN
  2093. [2011-12-30 14:49:27] <Arkeus> If i find something to add, i'll delete that part too.
  2094. [2011-12-30 15:05:33] <Bob> I love the pre-katana samurai of the Gempei war times. That-and I just... like the revamped units more than the default. Which is sad, because I like the gameplay of Shogun 2 vanilla more, because I swear they have more coded for events and whatnot.
  2095. [2011-12-30 15:06:41] <Arkeus> heh
  2096. [2011-12-30 15:07:00] <Arkeus> you can probably find modes to switch unit images
  2097. [2011-12-30 15:08:19] <Conil> I was just thinking the same, yeah.
  2098. [2011-12-30 15:09:05] <Bob> Not just that-I meant how they handle
  2099. [2011-12-30 15:09:15] <Bob> I DON'T like how it seems... sparser, in gempei, for polish
  2100. [2011-12-30 15:09:22] <A_Mad_Oyster> >...Rest in Peace, Right Laine, I hardly knew ye.
  2101. [2011-12-30 15:09:24] <A_Mad_Oyster> ;_;
  2102. [2011-12-30 15:09:33] <Arkeus> None of us knew it
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  2104. [2011-12-30 15:21:01] <Arkeus> wb MAD
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  2107. [2011-12-30 15:21:27] <Arkeus> oops, Guile
  2108. [2011-12-30 15:29:02] <Guile> now that hurts
  2109. [2011-12-30 15:29:24] <A_Mad_Oyster> >.>
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  2113. [2011-12-30 15:35:42] <Arkeus> mmmh, rewatching the last 3 eps of Madoka
  2114. [2011-12-30 15:35:52] <Arkeus> So heartwarming
  2115. [2011-12-30 15:36:03] <Arkeus> bob, i want Armas to kill QB
  2116. [2011-12-30 15:36:33] <Wutenheimer> qb?
  2117. [2011-12-30 15:37:22] <Arkeus> Kyuubei
  2118. [2011-12-30 15:37:28] <Arkeus> never watched Madoka?
  2119. [2011-12-30 15:38:08] <A_Mad_Oyster> The pronunciation sounds close to "QB
  2120. [2011-12-30 15:38:19] <A_Mad_Oyster> That's why
  2121. [2011-12-30 15:38:32] <A_Mad_Oyster> Also, >heartwarming
  2122. [2011-12-30 15:38:32] <A_Mad_Oyster> wat
  2123. [2011-12-30 15:38:39] <Bob> Arkeus: There are magic users from other realities on Earth. The question then-is if any are NOT from different realities-but merely different planets?
  2124. [2011-12-30 15:38:42] <Arkeus> The last 4 eps are
  2125. [2011-12-30 15:39:04] <Arkeus> Bob: indeed. And if there are QBs, Armas must kill them
  2126. [2011-12-30 15:39:10] <Arkeus> After all, they hurt little girls
  2127. [2011-12-30 15:39:19] <A_Mad_Oyster> being meguca is suffering
  2128. [2011-12-30 15:39:22] <Guile> thats kinda a weird thing for Armas to get hung up on
  2129. [2011-12-30 15:39:33] <Arkeus> Armas likes kids
  2130. [2011-12-30 15:39:37] <Guile> but I'm just glad to see ANY humanity out of the guy
  2131. [2011-12-30 15:39:57] <Arkeus> Ah, you meant weird in that way
  2132. [2011-12-30 15:40:31] <Arkeus> I do wonder if there is a way Godokka or a equivalent could 'exist'
  2133. [2011-12-30 15:40:32] <Guile> Armas would make a pretty good youkai. be a kid or do this specific thing and he'll leave you alone or give you presents, don't and he will troll the fuck out of you or kill you
  2134. [2011-12-30 15:40:44] <Guile> Madokami sounds catchier
  2135. [2011-12-30 15:41:18] <A_Mad_Oyster> ^
  2136. [2011-12-30 15:43:07] <Guile> unexpected benefit of our men all being dressed as period nazis: people think we're performance art or doing a movie or something
  2137. [2011-12-30 15:43:56] <A_Mad_Oyster> And then a soccer mom calls the police to report a 'Nazi Death Squad' is about to go on a massacre
  2138. [2011-12-30 15:44:00] <Bob> I mean
  2139. [2011-12-30 15:44:18] <Bob> who IN THEIR RIGHT MIND would stage an actual gunfight wearing nazi uniforms>?
  2140. [2011-12-30 15:44:20] <Bob> Who?
  2141. [2011-12-30 15:44:23] <Bob> No one, that's who
  2142. [2011-12-30 15:44:33] <Guile> Right!
  2143. [2011-12-30 15:44:36] <A_Mad_Oyster> We're the first!
  2144. [2011-12-30 15:44:47] <Arkeus> Like "No One" Would have the "Dick Wave Gun" move either, right, bob?
  2145. [2011-12-30 15:44:51] <Guile> refuge in audacity, thy name is Armas
  2146. [2011-12-30 15:45:53] <Guile> huh, anime 'Tiger and Bunny' is actually pretty damn good. I like every single character- the revenge-driven prettyboy, even, and I HATE that trope
  2147. [2011-12-30 15:46:25] <Bob> It's a good show as far as characters go
  2148. [2011-12-30 15:46:27] <Arkeus> revenge driven pretty boy in HxH is still my least liked character- but a lot love hime
  2149. [2011-12-30 15:46:33] * Arkeus still pimping hxh
  2150. [2011-12-30 15:46:38] <Guile> yes, we know
  2151. [2011-12-30 15:46:41] <Arkeus> Also, what is 'tiger and bunny'?N
  2152. [2011-12-30 15:46:43] <Bob> It falls flat here or there for having to be kid friendly and addressing an adult theme-but in general, good stuff.
  2153. [2011-12-30 15:47:09] <Guile> Its... like if real-life superheroes were the best reality TV show in Japan
  2154. [2011-12-30 15:47:12] <Guile> and it would be
  2155. [2011-12-30 15:47:47] <Guile> true nuff, bob - besides the characters themselves and the idea of 'hey wouldnt it be cool if we had a costumed superhero tv show inside an anime', the rest was kinda eh
  2156. [2011-12-30 15:48:06] <Guile> but the protagonist sold it to me
  2157. [2011-12-30 15:49:04] <Arkeus> good haggler?
  2158. [2011-12-30 15:49:26] <Guile> ahah, no. bit of a clueless shmuck, really. I really liked him anyway.
  2159. [2011-12-30 15:49:33] <Bob> Awesomely deadbeat dad.
  2160. [2011-12-30 15:49:37] <Bob> That phrase may not make sense
  2161. [2011-12-30 15:49:38] <Guile> yes, exactly
  2162. [2011-12-30 15:49:41] <Bob> but it fits him perfectly
  2163. [2011-12-30 15:50:31] <A_Mad_Oyster> Huh, TaB is on my backlog, though I've heard mixed reviews recently...still worth it?
  2164. [2011-12-30 15:51:33] <Guile> depends on if the idea I outlined above was one that sounds interesting to you. It gets kinda bogged down with the prettyboy's quest for revenge, and then there's a few lame plottwists
  2165. [2011-12-30 15:51:37] <Guile> but the basics are sound
  2166. [2011-12-30 15:52:05] <Guile> watch episode 1, and then you'll know if its for you or not
  2167. [2011-12-30 15:56:47] <Guile> so THATs what happened! http://www.smbc-comics.com/
  2168. [2011-12-30 16:02:54] <Arkeus> http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=2803713&pagenumber=258#post398884189 heh
  2169. [2011-12-30 16:03:56] <Arkeus> http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2475#comic gee, who knew <_<
  2170. [2011-12-30 16:08:03] <Arkeus> http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2472#comic dammit, they are good
  2171. [2011-12-30 16:14:09] <Arkeus> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KCgiWqTPLaU/Tuse8utN9eI/AAAAAAAAr5I/dqoIJFW1zKQ/s1600/211.gif
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  2174. [2011-12-30 16:21:02] <Arkeus> TIM RETURNED !!!
  2175. [2011-12-30 16:21:07] =-= TIMreturned is now known as TheInsufferableMystic
  2176. [2011-12-30 16:21:33] <TheInsufferableMystic> Bagelsss!
  2177. [2011-12-30 16:23:12] <Arkeus> So, we were making plans earlier for the Hummingbird
  2178. [2011-12-30 16:23:27] <Arkeus> Bob was advising the Codename 'hummer'
  2179. [2011-12-30 16:23:56] <Arkeus> And each time he goes on jobs, Armas would bring him there on a hummer, and then take a drink/whatever while Hummingbird would do the job
  2180. [2011-12-30 16:24:23] <Arkeus> In a few weeks, [CODENAME: HUMMER] will make everyone quake in their boots
  2181. [2011-12-30 16:25:12] <TheInsufferableMystic> One bird Army
  2182. [2011-12-30 16:25:45] <Arkeus> I honestly don't think much short of a Reaper or Lammy could pose much problem to Vikingbird
  2183. [2011-12-30 16:27:10] <TheInsufferableMystic> Several reapers
  2184. [2011-12-30 16:28:04] <Bob> A reaper would kill the bird 19/20 times
  2185. [2011-12-30 16:28:12] <Bob> just one, 'average' reaper
  2186. [2011-12-30 16:28:37] <Bob> Labombard lacks the requisite speed to even hit the bird, barring luck
  2187. [2011-12-30 16:28:52] <Bob> And the possession swap trick... not a good idea against the bird
  2188. [2011-12-30 16:29:04] <Bob> not when it puts you in it's body, and it in the juggernaut that is Lammy's body
  2189. [2011-12-30 16:29:18] <Guile> Reaper speed with their time charm is no joke
  2190. [2011-12-30 16:29:28] <Guile> That would be... delightful
  2191. [2011-12-30 16:29:46] <Guile> 1/20th the speed, you might even be able to catch the little guy
  2192. [2011-12-30 16:29:49] <TheInsufferableMystic> Time fake speed is so Hax
  2193. [2011-12-30 16:29:59] <Bob> Of course it is
  2194. [2011-12-30 16:30:02] <Arkeus> Pff
  2195. [2011-12-30 16:30:02] <Bob> speed in general is hax
  2196. [2011-12-30 16:30:09] <Bob> and time speed is moreso hax than normal speed
  2197. [2011-12-30 16:30:34] <TheInsufferableMystic> Mainly due to not suffer the control problem of absurd speed?
  2198. [2011-12-30 16:30:40] <Guile> our own planned speed hax are ridiculous enough
  2199. [2011-12-30 16:30:44] <Arkeus> Hummingbird, in a week or so (let's say, after the double lesson from lo fang + 4 6hrs lesson from Weng Yun + another 6hrs lesson from lo fang) could already get quite a bit stronger
  2200. [2011-12-30 16:30:57] <Arkeus> Then he will maybe win against a reaper 5/20th !
  2201. [2011-12-30 16:31:03] <Bob> Wait, what is the hummingbird learning from ANY of those save Lo Fang?
  2202. [2011-12-30 16:31:15] <Arkeus> lol, he is already better than them?
  2203. [2011-12-30 16:31:16] <Bob> Do you have any reason to believe it is 'normal' to be able to tutor animals in chakra use?
  2204. [2011-12-30 16:31:17] <Arkeus> ahahahhahaaahhahaah
  2205. [2011-12-30 16:31:37] <Arkeus> I thought the hummingbird was going to 'steal' techniques
  2206. [2011-12-30 16:31:39] <Bob> Lo Fang can do it because 'fuck your shit I stole a library wing worth of records when I left the Shaolin temples'
  2207. [2011-12-30 16:32:03] <Arkeus> Not being taught himself- but use the lessons taugh to Armas to get better himself
  2208. [2011-12-30 16:32:07] <Bob> The problem is that it still doesn't understand chakra. It can steal your techniques, because it's life led it to self-soul manipulation, and you have that too-so that's fine
  2209. [2011-12-30 16:32:31] <Bob> but until the bird grasps how chakras could even work in its diminuitive frame, it can't do much rather than observe other chakra use
  2210. [2011-12-30 16:32:39] <Bob> now, if you pit it against an animal that could use chakra
  2211. [2011-12-30 16:32:40] <Arkeus> Wouldn't seeing Armas being taught would help him understand it?
  2212. [2011-12-30 16:32:43] <Bob> sure it could steal tricks
  2213. [2011-12-30 16:33:17] <Bob> Not really, since Armas is a human being taught human chakra manipulation techniques in most examples. Godling doesn't make you nearly as different from human as 'being a bird'
  2214. [2011-12-30 16:33:29] <Arkeus> Mmmh, i see.
  2215. [2011-12-30 16:33:42] <Arkeus> Hummingbirds > Dragons, after all
  2216. [2011-12-30 16:34:24] <Arkeus> More seriously, the bird will only benefit when Armas will learn soul manip then?
  2217. [2011-12-30 16:34:31] <Arkeus> or would that, too, be 'too alien'?
  2218. [2011-12-30 16:35:22] <Bob> no, it can learn soul manip, because souls are largely independant of the vessel they inhabit as body-soul mechanics don't shift about as much as chakra
  2219. [2011-12-30 16:35:42] <Arkeus> Interesting.
  2220. [2011-12-30 16:36:07] <Arkeus> A clarification about the Disciple training us: Are our lessons with Men Yung supposed to be only once a week too?
  2221. [2011-12-30 16:36:41] <Bob> yeah. He just offered again because he's interested in you.
  2222. [2011-12-30 16:37:21] <Guile> yay, we're special
  2223. [2011-12-30 16:37:22] <Arkeus> Wait- let me understand. They are supposed to be once a Week, but as he is interested we could get more than once a week?
  2224. [2011-12-30 16:37:38] <TheInsufferableMystic> [22:32] <Bob> now, if you pit it against an animal that could use chakra] "Roll up, Roll up, See the world's strongest humming bird fight a chakra using Tiger!"
  2225. [2011-12-30 16:37:42] <Arkeus> Or is it "it was supposed to be just the once, but he offered more because we are special"?
  2226. [2011-12-30 16:37:48] <Guile> he can do whatever he wants on his own time
  2227. [2011-12-30 16:38:03] <Arkeus> lol TIM
  2228. [2011-12-30 16:38:06] <Bob> First one
  2229. [2011-12-30 16:38:14] <Arkeus> i really want to go to the underground Arenas
  2230. [2011-12-30 16:38:18] <Arkeus> Really, really want
  2231. [2011-12-30 16:38:19] <Guile> I dont
  2232. [2011-12-30 16:38:20] <Bob> and you're only getting the one-off extra
  2233. [2011-12-30 16:38:21] <Arkeus> ok bob, thanks
  2234. [2011-12-30 16:38:55] <Arkeus> bob: unless we impress him more haggle/whatever, iguess. Or i am going to try anyway.
  2235. [2011-12-30 16:39:25] <Guile> can Meng Yun teach us to shunt chakra to soul brothers? Is that a Shaolin thing? We'd probably need Laib instruction to get the 'shunt power to spirit animal' bit.
  2236. [2011-12-30 16:40:14] <Arkeus> Guile: i still don't think that we need to shunt everything to soul brothers to not use it in our body. SB was kinda sure that there are chakra alignment that don't pervade the flesh
  2237. [2011-12-30 16:40:30] <Guile> there are no doubt other workarounds
  2238. [2011-12-30 16:40:34] <Guile> but I wanna learn that anyway
  2239. [2011-12-30 16:41:01] <Guile> Think about it: if we run into something we dont want to show our precious flesh around, but still want to damage, SB/Sake/Hummingbird works nicely
  2240. [2011-12-30 16:41:10] <Arkeus> Well, the other guy- Flexibility?
  2241. [2011-12-30 16:41:13] <Guile> particularly pumped on our unwieldishly large soul
  2242. [2011-12-30 16:41:18] <Arkeus> that guy should be able to change how our stealth work
  2243. [2011-12-30 16:41:32] <Guile> like the Reaper
  2244. [2011-12-30 16:41:37] <Arkeus> So that we could choose to shunt off more to SB, less to sensory augmentation/queitening
  2245. [2011-12-30 16:42:18] <Arkeus> Well, 'our precious flesh' isn't so weak now that we can survive death by just losing meats
  2246. [2011-12-30 16:42:33] <Arkeus> We just need to make sure we don't lose meats too
  2247. [2011-12-30 16:42:50] <Arkeus> Also, the medieval stunt? we die ONCE, and we lose our memories of how IT works
  2248. [2011-12-30 16:43:01] <Arkeus> Unless IT needs to be 'present'
  2249. [2011-12-30 16:43:23] <Bob> Hypothetical for you
  2250. [2011-12-30 16:43:32] <Arkeus> Bob: will we only lose memories of how the various abilities work, or will we lose memories of IT itself?
  2251. [2011-12-30 16:43:40] <Arkeus> (not buntline- IT)
  2252. [2011-12-30 16:43:41] <Bob> walk into a tea house in pre-sengoku jidai Japan.
  2253. [2011-12-30 16:43:49] <Bob> pretty good sized place
  2254. [2011-12-30 16:43:55] <Bob> there's one dude drinking tea
  2255. [2011-12-30 16:44:04] <Bob> and about three score dead customers and waiters.
  2256. [2011-12-30 16:44:12] <Bob> What do you do upon recognizing this, as Armas?
  2257. [2011-12-30 16:44:20] <Arkeus> Everything's normal, move along
  2258. [2011-12-30 16:44:36] <Arkeus> Maybe ask him what tea it was?
  2259. [2011-12-30 16:44:46] <Bob> I thought you were going to say: Armas' first though: 'score, free tea!'
  2260. [2011-12-30 16:45:01] <Arkeus> Some others would do that, i am sure.
  2261. [2011-12-30 16:45:35] <Arkeus> Armas doesn't drink tea, does he?
  2262. [2011-12-30 16:45:47] <TheInsufferableMystic> "Was the tea that bad?"
  2263. [2011-12-30 16:45:59] <Guile> Sit down at his table, order tea
  2264. [2011-12-30 16:46:12] <Arkeus> "Damn those waiters, can't they be quicker!"
  2265. [2011-12-30 16:46:17] =-= EvilP|2 is now known as EvilP
  2266. [2011-12-30 16:47:16] <Arkeus> Anyway, we almost certainly will lose memories of how the Buntline works during our sting in Medieval time
  2267. [2011-12-30 16:47:21] <Arkeus> That is, if Romanov works
  2268. [2011-12-30 16:47:34] <Guile> unless we, you know, don't die
  2269. [2011-12-30 16:47:40] <Arkeus> *Gasp*
  2270. [2011-12-30 16:47:45] <Arkeus> What are you saying!
  2271. [2011-12-30 16:48:01] <Guile> honestly, as long as we keep our head on our shoulders (heh)
  2272. [2011-12-30 16:48:04] <Guile> we should be ok
  2273. [2011-12-30 16:48:35] <Bob> and your heart in the home
  2274. [2011-12-30 16:49:01] <Arkeus> You know, i am being very hesitant between learning charms from goblons or learning trap making
  2275. [2011-12-30 16:49:16] <Arkeus> The "learn something partly" vs "learn something almost completely" stuff
  2276. [2011-12-30 16:49:22] <Guile> yeah. I mean, barring decapitations or eviscerations, sword flashes should be easier to heal than hi-powered bullets. Swords often fail to chop through limbs in one blow
  2277. [2011-12-30 16:49:26] <Guile> get stuck on the bone
  2278. [2011-12-30 16:49:37] <A_Mad_Oyster> I am hesitant to learning /anything/ before we upgrade our mind first through magical means.
  2279. [2011-12-30 16:49:42] <Bob> ...Why would you be learning goblin trapmaking completely? I said you could hit macguyver, not that you could learn all they got.
  2280. [2011-12-30 16:49:51] <Arkeus> I am expecting our enemies to not be limited by simple sword slashes, guile
  2281. [2011-12-30 16:50:09] <Arkeus> Bob: i did make to to add the quantifier 'almost'
  2282. [2011-12-30 16:50:13] <Arkeus> was that too much?
  2283. [2011-12-30 16:50:26] <Arkeus> Is it still only "halfway"?
  2284. [2011-12-30 16:50:30] <TheInsufferableMystic> You know what I'd love? Full Armoured Knight in Youkai Nippon Quest
  2285. [2011-12-30 16:50:39] <Arkeus> TheInsufferableMystic: huh?
  2286. [2011-12-30 16:50:50] <Arkeus> 'make sure', sorry
  2287. [2011-12-30 16:50:59] <TheInsufferableMystic> Armoured fists in Spirit faces
  2288. [2011-12-30 16:51:07] <Guile> As long as he has the imperialist personality of von Fontlebottom III
  2289. [2011-12-30 16:51:10] <Arkeus> A_Mad_Oyster: obviously, this is pure thereotical discussions
  2290. [2011-12-30 16:51:11] <Guile> from jade empire
  2291. [2011-12-30 16:51:22] <TheInsufferableMystic> Perfect
  2292. [2011-12-30 16:52:17] <Arkeus> I was quite pleaased at how our sucky Stealth Alignment works so far
  2293. [2011-12-30 16:52:20] <Bob> Baron Muncheez Von Fondlebottom's ribald-filled and excitingge tales from the orient!
  2294. [2011-12-30 16:52:24] <Arkeus> It is better than i thought
  2295. [2011-12-30 16:52:37] <TheInsufferableMystic> Fully Armoured mad bomber Imperialist Knight
  2296. [2011-12-30 16:53:17] <A_Mad_Oyster> Bob, why don't we have a cooking trait yet?
  2297. [2011-12-30 16:53:34] <Bob> Because you have only been doing it here and there from one book
  2298. [2011-12-30 16:53:35] <Guile> because we're still kinda an amateur?
  2299. [2011-12-30 16:53:41] <Bob> branch out to other things, maybe?
  2300. [2011-12-30 16:53:42] <Arkeus> Bob: Are there any rolls that would throw us in a world where dragons never existed for the medieval time sidequest?
  2301. [2011-12-30 16:53:44] <Bob> and put in more time
  2302. [2011-12-30 16:53:49] <TheInsufferableMystic> And if you can't handle being blown up, you aren't "civilized" enough
  2303. [2011-12-30 16:53:50] <Bob> because Armas was not a cook to start
  2304. [2011-12-30 16:53:59] <Guile> the best we can hope for is that the Owner looks on us as 'a promising amateur'
  2305. [2011-12-30 16:54:07] <Guile> in the field of food preparation
  2306. [2011-12-30 16:54:12] <Arkeus> Bah, even then, we'd need so much more
  2307. [2011-12-30 16:54:18] <TheInsufferableMystic> Grill more
  2308. [2011-12-30 16:54:33] <TheInsufferableMystic> focus then expand?
  2309. [2011-12-30 16:54:37] <Arkeus> We need so much more of a LOT to be considered anything more than a 'mount stupid'
  2310. [2011-12-30 16:54:43] <A_Mad_Oyster> And then Quest gets derailed by Cooking. Main Quest Storyline? What's that? All I know of is COOKING.
  2311. [2011-12-30 16:55:05] <TheInsufferableMystic> The Iron Chef Path
  2312. [2011-12-30 16:55:12] <Arkeus> Heheh
  2313. [2011-12-30 16:55:12] <Guile> Well, cooking with Owner would still be a fun quest
  2314. [2011-12-30 16:55:14] <Bob> Iron Mind, Iron Body....
  2315. [2011-12-30 16:55:17] <Bob> Iron Chef
  2316. [2011-12-30 16:55:26] <Arkeus> We must make SURE there are no reciepies with hummingbirds in them
  2317. [2011-12-30 16:55:40] <Bob> there are several in the book
  2318. [2011-12-30 16:55:41] <TheInsufferableMystic> We hunt our own ingredients
  2319. [2011-12-30 16:55:46] <Arkeus> Bob: ouch
  2320. [2011-12-30 16:55:49] <A_Mad_Oyster> Another title to the collection we've got already
  2321. [2011-12-30 16:55:53] <TheInsufferableMystic> It'd be like Toriko
  2322. [2011-12-30 16:55:53] <Arkeus> ... I guess we need ot burn them
  2323. [2011-12-30 16:55:59] <Guile> you could probably substitute hummingbird for squab
  2324. [2011-12-30 16:56:14] <Guile> or vice versa
  2325. [2011-12-30 16:56:31] <Arkeus> It simple present will probably... incense... the Vikingbird
  2326. [2011-12-30 16:56:36] <Arkeus> Its
  2327. [2011-12-30 16:56:40] <Arkeus> presence
  2328. [2011-12-30 16:57:01] <Guile> Armas simply isnt man enough to cook hummingbird
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  2330. [2011-12-30 16:58:47] <Bob> GREAT IDEA
  2331. [2011-12-30 16:58:52] <Bob> when Armas gets sent back in time
  2332. [2011-12-30 16:58:55] <Bob> to Japan
  2333. [2011-12-30 16:58:59] <Bob> as is most likely to occur
  2334. [2011-12-30 17:00:02] <Bob> make HORRIBLE knock-off knightly armor-like, no defensive value, at all-and wrap up your body. Then, when you get injured through armor, just heal it, pretend it didn't happen-keep flaunting superiority of your armor. While doing so... exude the personality of... von Fontlebottom
  2335. [2011-12-30 17:00:23] <Arkeus> Who is that?
  2336. [2011-12-30 17:00:33] <Guile> to go along with our fake sword
  2337. [2011-12-30 17:00:34] <Ralith> and then SELL THE ARMOR FOR MASSIVE PROFIT
  2338. [2011-12-30 17:00:35] <Ralith> :D
  2339. [2011-12-30 17:00:54] <Bob> a fake sword you never use, fake armor you talk up like it makes you invincible
  2340. [2011-12-30 17:00:55] <Arkeus> My problem with this is it may destroy our flexibility
  2341. [2011-12-30 17:01:00] <Bob> how?
  2342. [2011-12-30 17:01:19] <Arkeus> Knightly Armor might not be best for joints?
  2343. [2011-12-30 17:01:36] <Bob> You'd be forging it with no regard for actual defensive value
  2344. [2011-12-30 17:01:43] <Bob> so you could do the joints however you want
  2345. [2011-12-30 17:01:45] <Arkeus> Weren't you the one who took off armas for Armas because flexibility?
  2346. [2011-12-30 17:01:49] <Arkeus> mmmh
  2347. [2011-12-30 17:01:55] <Bob> hell, maybe not even armor joints
  2348. [2011-12-30 17:01:56] <Arkeus> armore for Armas
  2349. [2011-12-30 17:01:58] <Arkeus> wtf typo
  2350. [2011-12-30 17:02:01] <Arkeus> armor
  2351. [2011-12-30 17:02:02] <Guile> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG2Y_a4sjc0&feature=related
  2352. [2011-12-30 17:02:04] <Guile> 2:45
  2353. [2011-12-30 17:02:04] <Classhole> Guile: Jade Empire [PC] [HD] [74] - Sir Roderick Von... - length 9m 36s - rated 4.75/5.0 (16) - 2936 views - Pitchingace88 on 2010.05.21
  2354. [2011-12-30 17:02:31] <A_Mad_Oyster> Maybe
  2355. [2011-12-30 17:02:38] <A_Mad_Oyster> With all the belief in us, once we become famous
  2356. [2011-12-30 17:02:48] <Arkeus> 'Once'
  2357. [2011-12-30 17:02:49] <A_Mad_Oyster> That fake armor and sword
  2358. [2011-12-30 17:02:50] <Arkeus> lol
  2359. [2011-12-30 17:03:08] <A_Mad_Oyster> May actually be able to "cut through steel" or "stop every blow"
  2360. [2011-12-30 17:03:39] <TheInsufferableMystic> ...Wait are people making the "you aren't flexible while in full plate armour Armour" mistake?
  2361. [2011-12-30 17:03:59] <Bob> TIM, that's GOOD armor
  2362. [2011-12-30 17:04:19] <Bob> this is 'armas' shitty knock-off made in the sticks'
  2363. [2011-12-30 17:04:26] <TheInsufferableMystic> Ah
  2364. [2011-12-30 17:04:26] <Bob> He cannot tony stark this
  2365. [2011-12-30 17:04:36] <Bob> now, if he learned the proper type of charm work
  2366. [2011-12-30 17:04:45] <Bob> he could make each piece of that shitty armor a shitty charm
  2367. [2011-12-30 17:04:52] <Bob> that, all together, add up pretty well
  2368. [2011-12-30 17:05:11] <EvilP> i'm imagining Armas covered in purity seals now...
  2369. [2011-12-30 17:05:11] <Guile> but that almost defeats the purpose of the troll
  2370. [2011-12-30 17:05:34] <TheInsufferableMystic> Until the charms interact in a weird way and Armas finds himself wearing Armour that thinks and has it's own movement
  2371. [2011-12-30 17:05:40] <TheInsufferableMystic> <.<
  2372. [2011-12-30 17:06:01] <TheInsufferableMystic> *wishful thinking
  2373. [2011-12-30 17:06:05] <Arkeus> bob won't let us escape headvoices
  2374. [2011-12-30 17:07:33] <Arkeus> oh god, i want to act like that von fontelbottom
  2375. [2011-12-30 17:07:42] <Arkeus> except not kill everyone
  2376. [2011-12-30 17:08:08] <TheInsufferableMystic> Maim?
  2377. [2011-12-30 17:08:17] |<-- A_Mad_Oyster has left irc.rizon.net (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
  2378. [2011-12-30 17:08:43] <Dart666> who is von fontelbottom?
  2379. [2011-12-30 17:08:51] <Arkeus> 'only a handful of you can even grow a decent moustache'
  2380. [2011-12-30 17:08:55] <Arkeus> oh god
  2381. [2011-12-30 17:08:57] <Arkeus> so must be used
  2382. [2011-12-30 17:09:42] <Guile> though, man, if you cover it with those durability wards I want to learn from Lo Fang... it would actually BE nigh-invincible shitty armor
  2383. [2011-12-30 17:09:59] <Guile> Armas, start growing a moustache in preparation
  2384. [2011-12-30 17:10:14] <Bob> And as you heal your wounds and put that at the feet of the armor, people think it can preserve a warrior too
  2385. [2011-12-30 17:10:18] <Bob> then they steel it.
  2386. [2011-12-30 17:10:22] <Bob> whoops... wrong.
  2387. [2011-12-30 17:10:38] <Arkeus> Yeah, the reason to learn goblinoic charms was because we wanted to combine them with lo fang-style with our own soul manip in our own ways
  2388. [2011-12-30 17:10:50] <Arkeus> It... doesn't seem likely anymore, though
  2389. [2011-12-30 17:11:04] <Arkeus> lol Bob
  2390. [2011-12-30 17:11:13] <Arkeus> We must restrict it to godling, somehow
  2391. [2011-12-30 17:11:13] <Arkeus> :p
  2392. [2011-12-30 17:11:15] <Guile> less so, yes, given Taoist work best in battle and we'd prefer a 'preparatory' type of charm from gobbos
  2393. [2011-12-30 17:11:29] <Guile> nah, since we want the russians to learn it, too
  2394. [2011-12-30 17:11:32] <Arkeus> OTOH, they may stack
  2395. [2011-12-30 17:11:42] <Guile> we dont want to be creating charms/wards forever while the russians go out and have fun
  2396. [2011-12-30 17:11:43] <Arkeus> Guile: medieval
  2397. [2011-12-30 17:11:49] <Arkeus> No Russians there, iirc
  2398. [2011-12-30 17:12:29] <Guile> doesnt change the fact that during the usual course of events Id rather the russians were inconvenienced than me
  2399. [2011-12-30 17:12:57] <Arkeus> i am... not sure what you mean
  2400. [2011-12-30 17:13:05] <Arkeus> we want russians to learn what, too?
  2401. [2011-12-30 17:14:53] <Guile> charms, bro. to create a charm, you need to write it out and infuse it with chakra, right? Well, us writing a few hundred charms is not fun
  2402. [2011-12-30 17:15:07] <Arkeus> Ah, you mean lo fang charms?
  2403. [2011-12-30 17:15:11] <Bob> I hope you plan to talk to the Russians about working at Ito's soonish. In case you had not picked it up, Camella now takes it as part of her duty to kick your ass into doing boss-things that you drag your feet on.
  2404. [2011-12-30 17:15:22] <Guile> maaaannnn...
  2405. [2011-12-30 17:15:39] <Arkeus> Bob:... oops
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  2407. [2011-12-30 17:15:40] <Guile> why was this a good idea again? oh yeah, because otherwise nothing gets done
  2408. [2011-12-30 17:15:44] <Arkeus> This is going to be FUN
  2409. [2011-12-30 17:15:48] <Fargist_The_Fifth> ???
  2410. [2011-12-30 17:15:49] <Classhole> ¿¿¿
  2411. [2011-12-30 17:15:54] <Bob> !!!
  2412. [2011-12-30 17:15:54] <Classhole> ?!?
  2413. [2011-12-30 17:16:01] <Guile> ...?
  2414. [2011-12-30 17:16:03] <Guile> aw
  2415. [2011-12-30 17:16:10] <Bob> ¿¿¿
  2416. [2011-12-30 17:16:27] <Bob> 3¿ have a question
  2417. [2011-12-30 17:16:28] <Arkeus> On the other hand, it may get Armas more compabtibility with hummingbird/ focused people
  2418. [2011-12-30 17:16:30] <Fargist_The_Fifth> What did I miss?
  2419. [2011-12-30 17:16:51] <Guile> camella kicking our ass isnt going to make US more focused, just afraid of her wrath enough to do stuff
  2420. [2011-12-30 17:17:05] <Arkeus> Not kicking our ass, i think
  2421. [2011-12-30 17:17:07] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Naaaaah.
  2422. [2011-12-30 17:17:14] <Arkeus> Pointing this kinda stuff
  2423. [2011-12-30 17:17:15] <Guile> kicking our ass with words, then
  2424. [2011-12-30 17:17:27] <Bob> 3http://notalwaysright.com/this-spuds-obviously-not-for-you/15683
  2425. [2011-12-30 17:17:33] <Bob> 3http://notalwaysright.com/with-great-money-comes-fiscal-responsibility/15697
  2426. [2011-12-30 17:17:40] <Arkeus> i linked that one!
  2427. [2011-12-30 17:17:42] <Arkeus> ...i think
  2428. [2011-12-30 17:17:59] <Bob> 3No, not 'kick your ass' but 'kick you into doing the things you said were a good idea to do yet have not done yet.'
  2429. [2011-12-30 17:18:15] <Arkeus> Gee, Armas reminds of someone
  2430. [2011-12-30 17:18:17] <Arkeus> I wonder who
  2431. [2011-12-30 17:18:21] <Bob> 3Basically, she's going to make you own up to what you say while in a boss position.
  2432. [2011-12-30 17:18:58] <Bob> 3Or so went her rational for accepting-besides getting you to stop nagging
  2433. [2011-12-30 17:19:22] <Arkeus> Bob: i am disappointed Armas didn't throw camella a party for "Caving in to Superior Nagging"
  2434. [2011-12-30 17:19:34] <Arkeus> Also, Camella obviously didn't accept for the ritual charms at all
  2435. [2011-12-30 17:19:35] <Arkeus> no sir
  2436. [2011-12-30 17:19:43] <Bob> 3Nope
  2437. [2011-12-30 17:19:47] <Bob> 3totally didn't factor in
  2438. [2011-12-30 17:19:48] <Bob> 3at all
  2439. [2011-12-30 17:20:01] <Guile> she got us to stop nagging in exchange for nagging us?
  2440. [2011-12-30 17:20:10] <Arkeus> Guile: woman
  2441. [2011-12-30 17:20:11] <Bob> 3More or less
  2442. [2011-12-30 17:21:16] <Arkeus> I wonder how jealous she will be when she'll see our guns in action
  2443. [2011-12-30 17:21:49] <Arkeus> "ok, so Armas has a AA12 that destroys many charms at once, a pistol that paralyses people, and a rifle that make big ass holes? Wtf, bob?"
  2444. [2011-12-30 17:21:50] <Guile> Trick isnt really so amazing - on the surface
  2445. [2011-12-30 17:22:19] <Bob> You should see her new axes at work
  2446. [2011-12-30 17:22:20] <Guile> and she knows about our magic armaments now- we told her during that powwow with matvey
  2447. [2011-12-30 17:22:26] <Bob> low grade magic on well-crafted steel
  2448. [2011-12-30 17:22:29] <Bob> just one trick
  2449. [2011-12-30 17:22:39] <Arkeus> Bob: why do you think i want Armas to item sense them?
  2450. [2011-12-30 17:22:40] <Bob> the more blood freshly spilled on the blade-the sharper the edge gets
  2451. [2011-12-30 17:22:45] <Fargist_The_Fifth> ...!!!
  2452. [2011-12-30 17:22:51] <Arkeus> Nice
  2453. [2011-12-30 17:22:53] <Bob> Rather suited to her, I think.
  2454. [2011-12-30 17:22:54] <Fargist_The_Fifth> That sounds nice
  2455. [2011-12-30 17:23:02] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Too bad it doesn't make the metal "harder" too
  2456. [2011-12-30 17:23:11] <Arkeus> Guile: i doubt Armas told her what Trick does. Or AA12. Or Silja.
  2457. [2011-12-30 17:23:13] <Bob> Once she starts axing a question, she does not stop until she has her answer.
  2458. [2011-12-30 17:23:17] <Arkeus> Or, you know, splinter intent
  2459. [2011-12-30 17:23:40] <Arkeus> Is that phrase, "Axing a question", from her?
  2460. [2011-12-30 17:24:00] <Fargist_The_Fifth> What does she think of Keihas? Because she's only seen the rifle, and I think she still doesn't know of Silja, during our little "training" with her
  2461. [2011-12-30 17:24:04] <Bob> Armas explained generalities of Trick (I got a tricky artifact, solid ace in the hole) and Keihas (Rifle that does solid duty in melee but is... persnickety to use)
  2462. [2011-12-30 17:24:24] <Guile> "I can only use her on evil people, unfortunately."
  2463. [2011-12-30 17:24:30] <Arkeus> Pretty much what i expected
  2464. [2011-12-30 17:24:39] <Arkeus> She might not realize yet what 'Artifact' entails
  2465. [2011-12-30 17:24:49] <Bob> She made her one and only quip thus far when lodging an axe in Olga's head, of 'I've got a question to axe you!'. It was terrible and she immediately regretted it-and I immediately spread it to irc.
  2466. [2011-12-30 17:24:50] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Well, let's show her the power of one
  2467. [2011-12-30 17:24:54] <Guile> well, its not like you can use an axe to block well, anyway
  2468. [2011-12-30 17:24:58] <Guile> axes are for cutting
  2469. [2011-12-30 17:25:11] <Arkeus> lol Bob
  2470. [2011-12-30 17:25:40] <Fargist_The_Fifth> ...that's x10 funnier because it was the last thing Olga heard
  2471. [2011-12-30 17:25:45] <Arkeus> We REALLY need a way to make our Darkening Stealth work soon
  2472. [2011-12-30 17:26:04] <Fargist_The_Fifth> "[Camella]: "I've got a question to axe you!" " [QUEST END: GAME OVER]
  2473. [2011-12-30 17:26:11] <Bob> it conjoined with some irc chat that, on hearing of her axework, joked about her 'axing questions' and it kind of stuck
  2474. [2011-12-30 17:27:49] <Arkeus> She must cringe every time she hears that, now
  2475. [2011-12-30 17:28:05] <Arkeus> Btw- what are your single players group thinking about 'GfH'?
  2476. [2011-12-30 17:28:17] <Guile> We need to interrogate one of the nazis by saying: "Camella! Axe him a question!"
  2477. [2011-12-30 17:28:27] * Fargist_The_Fifth snickers
  2478. [2011-12-30 17:28:28] <Arkeus> heh
  2479. [2011-12-30 17:28:56] <Guile> "... you know, with your axe. See, it's funny because the verb that SHOULD be there is-"
  2480. [2011-12-30 17:29:00] <Guile> Then we're off
  2481. [2011-12-30 17:29:15] <Arkeus> Camella must NEVER learn we can come back from the dead
  2482. [2011-12-30 17:29:20] <Arkeus> Or we'll never be full lives
  2483. [2011-12-30 17:29:21] <Arkeus> Ever
  2484. [2011-12-30 17:29:22] <Fargist_The_Fifth> 5 bucks we're the one getting the axe instead of nazi
  2485. [2011-12-30 17:29:31] <Guile> just like when we tried to explain ourselves for the Trick trick
  2486. [2011-12-30 17:29:52] <Fargist_The_Fifth> If Camella ever learns of our lives, she's going to literally beat us to death, multiple times over, til our last life everytime she gets mad
  2487. [2011-12-30 17:30:26] <Bob> why, exactly, would she do that?
  2488. [2011-12-30 17:30:34] <Fargist_The_Fifth> For satisfaction?
  2489. [2011-12-30 17:30:38] <Bob> I mean, last time she beat you she had a pretty good reason.
  2490. [2011-12-30 17:30:47] <Bob> But are you predicting she'll just beat you on principle?
  2491. [2011-12-30 17:30:56] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Oh no, not literally every time
  2492. [2011-12-30 17:30:58] <Arkeus> No- we are predicting Armas will give her reasons
  2493. [2011-12-30 17:31:06] <Arkeus> It's a safe bet
  2494. [2011-12-30 17:31:21] <Guile> She'll beat us like it's her job- which it now is.
  2495. [2011-12-30 17:31:52] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Though it'll kinda be funny if we die during combat, everyone's shedding a single manly tear for us, just for Armas to pop back saying "Eeeh, tricked you!"
  2496. [2011-12-30 17:32:21] <Arkeus> I REALLY want to see BB's player reaction when they learn what we have done with the ritual charm
  2497. [2011-12-30 17:32:23] <Guile> hopefully this doesnt happen until we deepen our relationship with Hillevi
  2498. [2011-12-30 17:32:54] <Arkeus> Yeah, we need to make the Trolly mentor trick work
  2499. [2011-12-30 17:33:01] <Arkeus> Unless it will be considered too meta
  2500. [2011-12-30 17:33:15] <Guile> "Armas? Armas, come on, get up. You... why isn't it working? Why is nothing.... A-Armas?" Then a chunk of Istanbul turns into the Fimbulwinter
  2501. [2011-12-30 17:33:44] <Guile> We resurrect a few minutes later, wondering when we were dropped back in Finland
  2502. [2011-12-30 17:33:52] <Guile> or the arctic circle
  2503. [2011-12-30 17:34:02] <Arkeus> *cough cough*
  2504. [2011-12-30 17:34:04] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Speaking of our lives...
  2505. [2011-12-30 17:34:21] <Bob> Hm
  2506. [2011-12-30 17:35:01] <Bob> If Hillevi completely disregarded all the caution she's learned to adopt when plying her power, and the stern orders of her father and oldest brother, and just completely opened up..... yeah, a few things would be frozen
  2507. [2011-12-30 17:35:03] <Bob> a few things
  2508. [2011-12-30 17:35:12] <Bob> You know, a few city blocks
  2509. [2011-12-30 17:35:18] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Bob, what happens if...say, we get our body turned to minced meat, and die. Of course, we WILL come back, but will our...mingled flesh just...reconstruct itself back, or does a body just appear out of nowhere?
  2510. [2011-12-30 17:35:57] <Bob> if you have physical matter left, respawn through it. If you were completely vaporized, rebuild self from nothing
  2511. [2011-12-30 17:35:58] <Guile> we heal ourselves, like Gleb did
  2512. [2011-12-30 17:35:59] <Arkeus> Iirc, Bob did say we could currently only get back a limited number of body parts at once
  2513. [2011-12-30 17:36:01] <Bob> which looks pretty nifty
  2514. [2011-12-30 17:36:08] <Arkeus> it would
  2515. [2011-12-30 17:36:08] <Guile> bones first?
  2516. [2011-12-30 17:36:09] <Arkeus> Mmmh
  2517. [2011-12-30 17:36:25] <Bob> brain/nervous system first
  2518. [2011-12-30 17:36:27] <Bob> then bones
  2519. [2011-12-30 17:36:30] <Wutenheimer> http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/554818
  2520. [2011-12-30 17:36:31] <Bob> then general organs
  2521. [2011-12-30 17:36:36] <Bob> then muscles
  2522. [2011-12-30 17:36:37] <Bob> then skin and hair
  2523. [2011-12-30 17:36:38] <Bob> and you done
  2524. [2011-12-30 17:36:42] <Arkeus> bob: does that mean that, in a way (excepting radiation), Armas could survive a nuke better than a dragon?
  2525. [2011-12-30 17:36:50] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Ah, dance of the manwhore. Seen the sequel yet, Wutenheimer?
  2526. [2011-12-30 17:36:56] <Wutenheimer> who hasnt
  2527. [2011-12-30 17:37:26] <Bob> Yes, since most Dragons don't have a respawn feat, as those get harder to implement the more magically complex you get. Incidentally-fully ascend to god, and Romanov cannot keep up with your soul
  2528. [2011-12-30 17:37:39] <Bob> Same if you outright become a dragon
  2529. [2011-12-30 17:37:45] <Bob> juuuuuust thought I'd mention that
  2530. [2011-12-30 17:37:55] <Arkeus> 'Cannot Keep up' = disappear? Or Morph?
  2531. [2011-12-30 17:38:20] <Bob> becomes vestigial until you can do something about the situation
  2532. [2011-12-30 17:38:37] * Arkeus googles vestigial
  2533. [2011-12-30 17:38:43] <Fargist_The_Fifth> .g vestigial
  2534. [2011-12-30 17:38:44] <Classhole> Fargist_The_Fifth: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vestigiality -- Vestigiality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: "The human vermiform appendix is a vestigial structure; it no longer retains its original function...."
  2535. [2011-12-30 17:39:10] <Arkeus> sort of atrophy
  2536. [2011-12-30 17:39:13] <Arkeus> mmh
  2537. [2011-12-30 17:39:43] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Bob, can we respawn from soul-death?
  2538. [2011-12-30 17:39:46] <Arkeus> So it couldn't keep up, but 'something' could possibly be done. Interesting.
  2539. [2011-12-30 17:40:06] <Bob> soul death is permanent to everyone and everything.
  2540. [2011-12-30 17:40:13] <Fargist_The_Fifth> But...Gleb...
  2541. [2011-12-30 17:40:21] <Bob> His soul ruptured
  2542. [2011-12-30 17:40:25] <Arkeus> I also expect that if we find another way to 'ascend' that is Armas way and not go/dragon, but via Awesome soul sculpting and cheating in many ways, we could maybe keep it always
  2543. [2011-12-30 17:40:26] <Bob> it had not died
  2544. [2011-12-30 17:40:39] <Bob> recovery from a terminal position, rather than wholly remaking a soul that was lost
  2545. [2011-12-30 17:40:41] <Bob> difference
  2546. [2011-12-30 17:40:43] <Bob> but it counts
  2547. [2011-12-30 17:40:47] <Fargist_The_Fifth> So if our soul ruptured, we could come back too?
  2548. [2011-12-30 17:40:50] <Arkeus> incidentally, i am not so hot for Dragonhood anymore- it seems to me like we would lose to much of 'Armas'
  2549. [2011-12-30 17:40:56] <Bob> yup
  2550. [2011-12-30 17:40:59] <Bob> it's costly though
  2551. [2011-12-30 17:41:04] <Bob> double cost of normal resurrect
  2552. [2011-12-30 17:41:06] <Fargist_The_Fifth> I regret not getting Borders now.
  2553. [2011-12-30 17:41:09] <Bob> since you have to fix soul
  2554. [2011-12-30 17:41:12] <Bob> and then fix body
  2555. [2011-12-30 17:41:16] <Bob> unless soul alone broke
  2556. [2011-12-30 17:41:25] <Bob> how would borders help here?
  2557. [2011-12-30 17:41:35] <Guile> it does add another layer of protection to soul tampering, which is nice
  2558. [2011-12-30 17:41:44] <Arkeus> Mmmh, i thought healing soul ruptures would take a LOT of time. Interesting that it only cost 'double'
  2559. [2011-12-30 17:41:58] <Arkeus> Yeah, it's a very nice layer
  2560. [2011-12-30 17:42:03] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Inflate our souls without abandon while harmonizing with SB. That is, if SB agrees to getting his soul ruptured too
  2561. [2011-12-30 17:42:06] <Bob> It takes longer-but to repair it you are automatically in NN time-so it evens out, more or less
  2562. [2011-12-30 17:42:13] <Arkeus> Especially as it seems it might be possible to use it to 'undo' self soul sculpting
  2563. [2011-12-30 17:42:14] <Bob> unless you REALLY ruptured it impressively
  2564. [2011-12-30 17:42:20] <Arkeus> So that we might 'reset' ourself
  2565. [2011-12-30 17:42:28] <Bob> SB cannot recover from rupture, I must note.
  2566. [2011-12-30 17:42:35] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Yup.
  2567. [2011-12-30 17:42:36] <Bob> that is correct Arkeus
  2568. [2011-12-30 17:42:36] <Arkeus> Yeah, you told us :-(
  2569. [2011-12-30 17:42:48] <Arkeus> Would 'our' soul rupturing means SB soul rupture too?
  2570. [2011-12-30 17:43:13] <Bob> if you forced a soul rupture, you could reset your soul to it's default (insofar as both bloodlines being done) state when repairing your soul
  2571. [2011-12-30 17:43:28] <Bob> of course, that relies on damaging your soul ONLY ENOUGH to rupture, and not outright destroy
  2572. [2011-12-30 17:43:32] <Bob> sliiiightly dangerous
  2573. [2011-12-30 17:43:41] <Fargist_The_Fifth> We still keep Divine Graft?
  2574. [2011-12-30 17:43:41] <Arkeus> sliiiiiiiiiiiightly
  2575. [2011-12-30 17:43:54] <Bob> Yes, it would be both souls that rupture when rupture occurs during a harmonization
  2576. [2011-12-30 17:44:07] <Arkeus> But not when there is no harmonization, correct?
  2577. [2011-12-30 17:44:49] <Guile> or if we were feeding soul to SB and fed too much?
  2578. [2011-12-30 17:45:02] <Arkeus> So, this might be a 'way' if we want to undo soul self-sculpting
  2579. [2011-12-30 17:45:15] <Arkeus> However, i am wondering if there is no 'way' to trigger Romanov without rutpuring
  2580. [2011-12-30 17:45:26] <Arkeus> That's something to try and see inquest, i think
  2581. [2011-12-30 17:45:42] <Guile> or do chakras regulate us enough that it would be really hard to injure ourselves that way?
  2582. [2011-12-30 17:46:10] <Bob> It's hard to overfeed SB because he can just... not accept energy
  2583. [2011-12-30 17:46:32] <Fargist_The_Fifth> I'm wondering if it's possible to...use chakras to construct a passive 'Chakra Soul-Armor'
  2584. [2011-12-30 17:46:55] <Arkeus> I think it would be more like soul manip
  2585. [2011-12-30 17:47:13] <Arkeus> Could probably be done via soul quirk, or even without
  2586. [2011-12-30 17:47:19] <Fargist_The_Fifth> But that would be Soul-Scarring, right?
  2587. [2011-12-30 17:47:37] <Bob> http://notalwaysright.com/one-good-takeout-deserves-another/15583
  2588. [2011-12-30 17:47:39] <Fargist_The_Fifth> I want to use something other than the soul to construct the armor
  2589. [2011-12-30 17:48:04] <Arkeus> Fargist_The_Fifth: well, it would be weaker then... and it's just like using charms to do it
  2590. [2011-12-30 17:48:27] <Arkeus> I still want to do that idea of Bob's- to use whistling + Sake to use rituals wind magic
  2591. [2011-12-30 17:48:38] <Arkeus> And maybe find a way to add charms within our whistling
  2592. [2011-12-30 17:48:47] <Guile> I was speaking of injuring ourselves from providing too much, not... I dunno, make him explode from taking too much in
  2593. [2011-12-30 17:48:57] <Arkeus> We still haven't found a 'battle whistling' :-(
  2594. [2011-12-30 17:49:30] <Guile> we'd probably need to set up a room ahead of time with the right kind of wards to bounce the whistling around like a perfect auditorium
  2595. [2011-12-30 17:49:33] <Arkeus> I... Don't think having "zero" chakra is dangerous
  2596. [2011-12-30 17:49:41] <Arkeus> might make us faint. Maybe.
  2597. [2011-12-30 17:51:36] <Guile> there it is http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/567351
  2598. [2011-12-30 17:58:33] <Arkeus> mmmh, 77777 should come in 2weeks or so
  2599. [2011-12-30 18:00:33] <Fargist_The_Fifth> I wonder what kind of bonus it'll give
  2600. [2011-12-30 18:01:20] <Arkeus> probably a 'normal' five of a kind one
  2601. [2011-12-30 18:01:42] <Fargist_The_Fifth> But...7! Lucky number!
  2602. [2011-12-30 18:02:39] <Guile> depends on what we're doing at the time, I suppose
  2603. [2011-12-30 18:02:46] <Guile> and whether a surprise turn of luck would help us
  2604. [2011-12-30 18:02:52] <Waryobserver> We find treasure.
  2605. [2011-12-30 18:02:56] <Waryobserver> On the moon?
  2606. [2011-12-30 18:03:01] <Waryobserver> Treasure.
  2607. [2011-12-30 18:03:15] <Waryobserver> Helicopter?
  2608. [2011-12-30 18:03:22] <Waryobserver> Treasure.
  2609. [2011-12-30 18:03:43] <Arkeus> We will be fighting our unarmed spar with Camella
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  2611. [2011-12-30 18:06:12] <Bob> luck is very useful in sparring and practice as a whole, as the only way to go for Armas' learning-is up!
  2612. [2011-12-30 18:06:40] <Arkeus> Armas has gained a New Trait! Luck Stealer: Armas has, through his spars with Camella, managed to find a way to grabe her luck and use it for himself. This make him able to 'share' her luck as logn as they arr fighting close together!
  2613. [2011-12-30 18:06:43] <Arkeus> <____________<
  2614. [2011-12-30 18:08:34] <Guile> that would be a fairly terrible power
  2615. [2011-12-30 18:08:37] <Arkeus> "is up"?
  2616. [2011-12-30 18:08:48] <Arkeus> Guile: terrible as in "worthless"?
  2617. [2011-12-30 18:09:13] <Guile> no, terrible as in 'watch us kneecap our best ally'
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  2619. [2011-12-30 18:09:51] <Arkeus> Now now, it's sharing
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  2621. [2011-12-30 18:10:37] <Arkeus> I wonder how Camella took it when we told her we healed well enough without the Carm
  2622. [2011-12-30 18:10:41] <Arkeus> Charm.
  2623. [2011-12-30 18:10:52] <Arkeus> What kind of healing she thinks we have :-)
  2624. [2011-12-30 18:11:19] <Bob> Put it this way
  2625. [2011-12-30 18:11:23] <Guile> she saw us heal from a 10-minute beating, and heal 5 broken teeth
  2626. [2011-12-30 18:11:26] <Bob> if you don't tell her you can come back from death
  2627. [2011-12-30 18:11:33] <Bob> she'll assume it anyway soon enough
  2628. [2011-12-30 18:12:02] <Arkeus> Even without us Ever having done so?
  2629. [2011-12-30 18:12:02] <Arkeus> huh
  2630. [2011-12-30 18:12:15] <Waryobserver> That won't end for her badly.
  2631. [2011-12-30 18:12:18] <Waryobserver> Nope.
  2632. [2011-12-30 18:12:33] <Arkeus> That's... a fairly big intuitive leap
  2633. [2011-12-30 18:12:44] <Guile> she genuinely thinks we're wizardly, Ark
  2634. [2011-12-30 18:12:49] <Arkeus> given how fucking RARE respawn powers are, if i my understand is correct
  2635. [2011-12-30 18:12:53] <Arkeus> I thought that was over
  2636. [2011-12-30 18:13:01] <Guile> and if we can heal from our arm getting lopped off, why not death?
  2637. [2011-12-30 18:13:18] <Guile> its not like she realizes its rare compared to other regenerators
  2638. [2011-12-30 18:13:32] <Waryobserver> There's a fairly large gap there, Guile.
  2639. [2011-12-30 18:13:44] <Waryobserver> MUndane things can regenerate.
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  2641. [2011-12-30 18:14:04] <Waryobserver> Coming back from the dead is...
  2642. [2011-12-30 18:14:13] <Arkeus> Also, she hasn't seen us regenerate from our arm being lopped off either
  2643. [2011-12-30 18:14:14] <Waryobserver> Well, Jesus-like.
  2644. [2011-12-30 18:14:15] <Arkeus> mmmh
  2645. [2011-12-30 18:14:39] <Arkeus> Something else, i wonder how rare is hybrid powers compared to respawn powers
  2646. [2011-12-30 18:15:10] <Waryobserver> I'd say a fair deal less, due to dragons.
  2647. [2011-12-30 18:15:25] <Arkeus> I still think MrTT is inventing dragons having them
  2648. [2011-12-30 18:16:47] <MrTT> Not inventing, logical deduction
  2649. [2011-12-30 18:16:58] <MrTT> we don't know, in game or word of bob, of anyone other then armas having hybrid powers
  2650. [2011-12-30 18:17:14] <MrTT> we DO know that bob explained that dragons have all 4 seasons in terms of bloodlines
  2651. [2011-12-30 18:17:23] <Arkeus> We know of people of immense powers having almost explicitely said they don't exsits
  2652. [2011-12-30 18:17:27] <Arkeus> shouldn't exists
  2653. [2011-12-30 18:17:29] <MrTT> and IIRC he mentioned something about positive interaction thereof
  2654. [2011-12-30 18:17:38] <MrTT> People don't know shit
  2655. [2011-12-30 18:17:41] <TheInsufferableMystic> Welp Night
  2656. [2011-12-30 18:17:53] <MrTT> dual bloodlines are super rare
  2657. [2011-12-30 18:17:53] <Arkeus> Night TIM
  2658. [2011-12-30 18:17:58] <Arkeus> 'super'
  2659. [2011-12-30 18:18:00] <Arkeus> lol
  2660. [2011-12-30 18:18:02] <MrTT> except for dragons where EVERY SINGLE DRAGON has them
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  2662. [2011-12-30 18:18:14] <MrTT> so it stands to reason that if someone knows, it would be dragons
  2663. [2011-12-30 18:18:14] <Arkeus> Dual bloodline are probably a few hundrends thousands human rare
  2664. [2011-12-30 18:18:24] <MrTT> doubtful
  2665. [2011-12-30 18:18:34] <Waryobserver> Dragons? Dragons don't know shit.
  2666. [2011-12-30 18:18:39] <Waryobserver> Ask Lucifer.
  2667. [2011-12-30 18:18:46] <MrTT> Dragons do know shit, they know a lot of shit
  2668. [2011-12-30 18:18:48] <Arkeus> Lucifer trolled dragons :-)
  2669. [2011-12-30 18:18:56] <MrTT> human magic is just dragon magic ripoff
  2670. [2011-12-30 18:19:00] <Arkeus> And OG > almost all Dragons
  2671. [2011-12-30 18:19:04] <MrTT> lucifer IS a dragon
  2672. [2011-12-30 18:19:11] <Arkeus> Yes, and trolled them
  2673. [2011-12-30 18:19:16] <MrTT> Og specialized in winter though
  2674. [2011-12-30 18:19:31] <MrTT> right, whatever
  2675. [2011-12-30 18:19:43] <Arkeus> Lucifer is as much an outlier for dragons as Amen is for humans
  2676. [2011-12-30 18:19:49] <Guile> under 400 dual-bloodline godlings in the world, TT. If you take SB and Armas and count them together as a 4 bloodline person, then no such thing exists
  2677. [2011-12-30 18:19:58] <MrTT> anyways... logically, if someone knows more about hybrid powers it would be dragons
  2678. [2011-12-30 18:20:12] <Waryobserver> Or Amoebas.
  2679. [2011-12-30 18:20:16] <Arkeus> Guile: SB isn't a godling, so not quiet
  2680. [2011-12-30 18:20:19] <Arkeus> if he was, then yes
  2681. [2011-12-30 18:20:28] <Arkeus> Amoebas >>>>>>>>>
  2682. [2011-12-30 18:20:30] <MrTT> @Guile: I am aware of the 400 figure, I have no idea what your point is though
  2683. [2011-12-30 18:20:55] <Waryobserver> The mechanism is uncommon, seems to be the point.
  2684. [2011-12-30 18:21:07] <MrTT> There is no human with more then 2 bloodlines
  2685. [2011-12-30 18:21:25] <MrTT> every single dragon has bloodlines of all 4 seasons, multiple, they GROW new blank bloodlines as they age
  2686. [2011-12-30 18:21:50] <MrTT> and there are about 100k dragons
  2687. [2011-12-30 18:22:12] <MrTT> so if we want to find people who know hybrid powers, i hypothesize that dragons are a very good place to start asking
  2688. [2011-12-30 18:22:19] <MrTT> well, aside from the "kill you from speaking to them"
  2689. [2011-12-30 18:22:28] <MrTT> that is a pretty big barrier
  2690. [2011-12-30 18:23:13] <Arkeus> I think only Dragons that have partly divine bloodline or partly imperial bloodlines could help us
  2691. [2011-12-30 18:23:22] <Arkeus> So, probably only ruling dragons
  2692. [2011-12-30 18:23:24] <Guile> >Dual bloodlines are super-rare, you said
  2693. [2011-12-30 18:23:26] <Arkeus> and even then, i doubt it
  2694. [2011-12-30 18:23:34] <MrTT> you ae assuming that the cause of hybridization are the divinity or imperial nature
  2695. [2011-12-30 18:23:48] <Waryobserver> You assume they are not.
  2696. [2011-12-30 18:23:50] <MrTT> it might be duable by anyone with dual bloodlines, or it might be romanov
  2697. [2011-12-30 18:23:58] <Waryobserver> I seems that way, anyways.
  2698. [2011-12-30 18:23:58] <Guile> They are rare. But not INCREDIBLY FUCKING OMG RARE
  2699. [2011-12-30 18:23:59] <MrTT> Actually wary, I am the one who raised the possibility
  2700. [2011-12-30 18:24:20] <Arkeus> I am assuming that given the more or less common nature of dual bloodlines human, Armas somehow managed to stymble upon it without anything special going on
  2701. [2011-12-30 18:24:26] <Arkeus> It WOULD be the soul mindfuck
  2702. [2011-12-30 18:24:29] <Arkeus> could
  2703. [2011-12-30 18:24:36] <MrTT> In a previous conversation he assumed that it was romanov that allowed hybrid and I said "it could be, or it could be because its divine, because it is imperial, because we have a divine soul graft, or something any dual season bloodline can do, or because soul and flesh manip or who knows":
  2704. [2011-12-30 18:25:29] <MrTT> anyways, saying "you assume they are not" is bullshit and insulting...I did not in any way assume that
  2705. [2011-12-30 18:25:40] <MrTT> I was perfectly clear that my point it that those are possibilities and not certainties
  2706. [2011-12-30 18:25:55] <MrTT> so throwing it back in my face that way is just antagonistic bullshit and not conductive to an adult conversation
  2707. [2011-12-30 18:26:15] <Arkeus> The 'anything someone with dual bloodline can do' would only be a possibility if it was insribed in us ten years ago
  2708. [2011-12-30 18:26:25] <Arkeus> inscribed
  2709. [2011-12-30 18:26:36] <Arkeus> I won't believe Armas managed that on his own
  2710. [2011-12-30 18:26:52] <MrTT> One last thing... I was wondering, do you guys think that there is a possibility that it came from "tasting" a dual bloodline use in the dragon attack that triggered it?
  2711. [2011-12-30 18:27:05] <Arkeus> Pretty much no
  2712. [2011-12-30 18:27:12] <MrTT> i mean, maybe that fireball took two bloodlines to mak
  2713. [2011-12-30 18:27:21] <MrTT> eh, its a wild idea but why not?
  2714. [2011-12-30 18:27:25] <Arkeus> If Shit tier dragon could do it, Einrik would be able to see it
  2715. [2011-12-30 18:27:41] <Arkeus> Also, if Shit Tier dragon could do it, Everyone would know about it
  2716. [2011-12-30 18:27:50] <MrTT> Also, maybe it is just because we use summer to heal body and winter to heal soul... and its not the summer winter interaction that makes it incredible but healing both soul AND flesh manip simultanously
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  2718. [2011-12-30 18:28:01] <MrTT> and it doesn't explode because winter only healed soul while summer only healed body?
  2719. [2011-12-30 18:28:10] <Arkeus> Would it be called hybrid tech if it was the case?
  2720. [2011-12-30 18:28:21] <MrTT> yes since its hybrid of two bloodlines
  2721. [2011-12-30 18:28:28] <Arkeus> Especially when we almost always only heal body?
  2722. [2011-12-30 18:28:32] <MrTT> g2g
  2723. [2011-12-30 18:28:36] <Arkeus> It's not hybrid in that case
  2724. [2011-12-30 18:28:39] <Arkeus> laters
  2725. [2011-12-30 18:28:43] <MrTT> later
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  2727. [2011-12-30 18:37:40] <Arkeus> lagging, reboot
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  2730. [2011-12-30 18:42:35] <AlratanMobile> His guys
  2731. [2011-12-30 18:42:55] <AlratanMobile> *Hi guys
  2732. [2011-12-30 18:43:16] <BUTTZ> Hey y'all ever think that hybrid healing might just be related to how the energies from the two courts interact, period? Like how an air-fuel explosion is usually enough to ruin your day normally, but controlled and contained can be used to run an engine ?
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  2734. [2011-12-30 18:43:46] <BUTTZ> Might have something to do with Armas' crazy-ass soul
  2735. [2011-12-30 18:44:00] <Waryobserver> Like an antimatter reactor?
  2736. [2011-12-30 18:44:05] <Waryobserver> Or summat.
  2737. [2011-12-30 18:44:09] <BUTTZ> Yeah sure why not?
  2738. [2011-12-30 18:44:11] <Ironybot> That is pretty much how I'm interpreting it- where there is great potential for the release of energy there is great potential to harness that energy as well.
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  2740. [2011-12-30 18:47:24] <Guile> Trying to use Armas's incomplete understanding might be like trying to contain nuclear fission in an old washtub, though
  2741. [2011-12-30 18:47:35] <Arkeus> understanding of?
  2742. [2011-12-30 18:47:49] <Guile> how summer and winter interact
  2743. [2011-12-30 18:47:51] <AlratanMobile> Hybrid healing
  2744. [2011-12-30 18:48:00] <Waryobserver> Hybrid is like an antimatter reactor hypothosis.
  2745. [2011-12-30 18:48:07] <Arkeus> Lol, trying to do anything with that before we can see our soul is a waste of time
  2746. [2011-12-30 18:48:24] <Guile> I still think being able to see our soul means we're crazy
  2747. [2011-12-30 18:48:30] <AlratanMobile> I think that is the way we will learn to see our soul
  2748. [2011-12-30 18:48:47] <Arkeus> And i am pretty sure doing anything about that before we are a master soul manipulator would need to buy info from some really weird sources
  2749. [2011-12-30 18:48:52] <Arkeus> like lucifer, maybe
  2750. [2011-12-30 18:48:59] <Waryobserver> Or...
  2751. [2011-12-30 18:49:03] <Waryobserver> THE AMOEBAS
  2752. [2011-12-30 18:49:07] <Arkeus> <Guile> I still think being able to see our soul means we're crazy <= not anymore iirc.
  2753. [2011-12-30 18:49:14] <Arkeus> Iirc that was only because of the ritual
  2754. [2011-12-30 18:49:30] <Arkeus> Amoebas, sure. Armas is totally going to learn abou them inquest
  2755. [2011-12-30 18:49:32] <Arkeus> Totally
  2756. [2011-12-30 18:50:28] <AlratanMobile> We need to have Armas try examining his own soul first
  2757. [2011-12-30 18:50:37] <Arkeus> How?
  2758. [2011-12-30 18:50:43] <AlratanMobile> See what the result is
  2759. [2011-12-30 18:50:44] <Arkeus> If you make a great post about it, sure
  2760. [2011-12-30 18:50:50] <Arkeus> But we have runs out of ways.
  2761. [2011-12-30 18:51:10] <AlratanMobile> Two possibilities
  2762. [2011-12-30 18:51:25] <AlratanMobile> First one I don't like
  2763. [2011-12-30 18:52:03] <Arkeus> http://addventure.bast-enterprises.de/251767.html i say fuck yes, DKA update
  2764. [2011-12-30 18:52:05] <AlratanMobile> Have Amen use space manipulation so that we can look through a doorway back into the room we're in
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  2767. [2011-12-30 18:52:44] <Arkeus> sorry, wrong manip
  2768. [2011-12-30 18:52:46] <Arkeus> got link?
  2769. [2011-12-30 18:53:07] <Waryobserver> The DKA link? yup.
  2770. [2011-12-30 18:53:23] <Guile> nifty
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  2772. [2011-12-30 18:56:33] =-= mib_c4z2kb is now known as Grail
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  2774. [2011-12-30 19:04:34] <Guile> on the subject of Nazi-trolls, I really wish we had Border-train now. We could call it the Fuhrersonderzug
  2775. [2011-12-30 19:04:47] <BUTTZ> Yo dudes I wrote more dialogue!
  2776. [2011-12-30 19:04:59] <Fargist_The_Fifth> tl;dr
  2777. [2011-12-30 19:05:08] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Nah, jk
  2778. [2011-12-30 19:05:10] <Guile> good man
  2779. [2011-12-30 19:05:32] <Arkeus> "Yeah Rocco, actually we were just consolidating gear to get everyone kitted up properly anyway. The timing's pretty good. All 18 operators I told you about earlier are still in fighting shape, as is that special ops girl Camella, and since you're asking for everything, I'll see if I can call in some agents I had scaring up work elsewhere. Can't guarantee they can make it, but if they
  2780. [2011-12-30 19:05:32] <Arkeus> can you're looking at a five man element that works like an oiled machine. Well equipped, disciplined, and some of the most frustrating martial artists I've had the pleasure to spar with." <= did we spar with ourself?
  2781. [2011-12-30 19:05:35] <Arkeus> how does that work?
  2782. [2011-12-30 19:05:41] <Grail> I'm going to have to object to the Nazi uniforms.
  2783. [2011-12-30 19:06:06] <Guile> I love that Hitler's compartment of the train was called the Fuhrerwagen
  2784. [2011-12-30 19:06:06] <Grail> Without clearing the gag with Rocco first
  2785. [2011-12-30 19:06:17] <Grail> We're probably going to get shot if we step foot near them
  2786. [2011-12-30 19:06:21] <Guile> I suppose we could spook him
  2787. [2011-12-30 19:06:30] * Fargist_The_Fifth snickers
  2788. [2011-12-30 19:06:31] <Grail> And then that ruins the joke
  2789. [2011-12-30 19:06:42] <Arkeus> the jokes are for the nazis
  2790. [2011-12-30 19:06:51] <Fargist_The_Fifth> ^
  2791. [2011-12-30 19:06:56] <Fargist_The_Fifth> for dem nazis
  2792. [2011-12-30 19:07:13] <Guile> also; as bob put it, who in their right mind would go to an actual gunfight in a nazi uniform? obviously, must be performance art, or a movie, or something
  2793. [2011-12-30 19:07:25] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Exactly, no one would suspect
  2794. [2011-12-30 19:07:34] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Until those Nazis suddenly pop out the guns
  2795. [2011-12-30 19:07:42] <Guile> we DO still need a clear it with Rocco, you're right, and thats just not quite as funny
  2796. [2011-12-30 19:07:49] <Guile> pity
  2797. [2011-12-30 19:09:06] <AlratanMobile> The Russians may have some objections
  2798. [2011-12-30 19:09:28] <AlratanMobile> Given the Nazis went genocidal on their ass
  2799. [2011-12-30 19:09:47] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Exactly, it's payback time motherfuckers
  2800. [2011-12-30 19:09:52] <Bob> You could use a special way of clearing it
  2801. [2011-12-30 19:10:13] <Bob> 'we'll be wearing counter-intelligence camoflauge-we'll pre-identify ourselves with the following sign:'
  2802. [2011-12-30 19:10:22] <Arkeus> lololol
  2803. [2011-12-30 19:10:28] <Guile> ... the high sign is of course, the Sieg Heil?
  2804. [2011-12-30 19:10:32] <Bob> Yup
  2805. [2011-12-30 19:10:46] <BUTTZ> Rocco might allow it, but I'm sure he wouldn't be amused
  2806. [2011-12-30 19:10:51] <Bob> 'The sign will be a vertical open-hand lift, palm down, at a forty five degree angle
  2807. [2011-12-30 19:10:56] <BUTTZ> He just doesn't seem like that
  2808. [2011-12-30 19:11:02] <Bob> if you say those two things
  2809. [2011-12-30 19:11:03] <Arkeus> Pfff
  2810. [2011-12-30 19:11:06] <Arkeus> Poor guy
  2811. [2011-12-30 19:11:08] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Mein Fuhrer is the codeword to start the attack
  2812. [2011-12-30 19:11:09] <Bob> there's no... reason to know what you're planning
  2813. [2011-12-30 19:11:12] <Guile> he does seem fairly dour, but you never know
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  2815. [2011-12-30 19:11:58] <Guile> I suppose its another case of Armas getting a funny idea and not able to let go of it, even when it might hurt his overall standing
  2816. [2011-12-30 19:12:11] <Arkeus> ;-)
  2817. [2011-12-30 19:12:17] <Grail> You know I wish we had lightening powers just so we could make a blitzkrieg joke.
  2818. [2011-12-30 19:12:30] <Arkeus> We need those thunder powers
  2819. [2011-12-30 19:12:46] <Arkeus> Thunder voice, i mean
  2820. [2011-12-30 19:12:47] <AlratanMobile> That lucky devil
  2821. [2011-12-30 19:12:47] <Guile> and if Hillevi can make a U-boat out of ice. And if we can rent blimps from somewhere
  2822. [2011-12-30 19:12:50] <Arkeus> For next time, i guess
  2823. [2011-12-30 19:13:05] <Grail> Find an old tank
  2824. [2011-12-30 19:13:09] <Grail> Throw it at the building
  2825. [2011-12-30 19:13:33] <BUTTZ> "Yeah, that Armas... you hire him and ask for everything and you get a fucking platoon AND a goddamn performance art piece tailored to whoever you're fighting. Guy's got a sick sense of humor."
  2826. [2011-12-30 19:13:55] <AlratanMobile> Genius
  2827. [2011-12-30 19:14:08] <Guile> well, get Hillevi to throw it at the building
  2828. [2011-12-30 19:14:12] <Grail> You're not just paying for the work
  2829. [2011-12-30 19:14:16] <Arkeus> Sake to Port it
  2830. [2011-12-30 19:14:18] <Grail> You're paying for the craftsmanship
  2831. [2011-12-30 19:14:18] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Next time we meet Armin, we're doing it again!
  2832. [2011-12-30 19:14:19] <Arkeus> SB
  2833. [2011-12-30 19:14:20] <Arkeus> not Sake
  2834. [2011-12-30 19:14:23] <Arkeus> or Sake to throw it
  2835. [2011-12-30 19:14:35] <AlratanMobile> But what can we get Einrik to dress in?
  2836. [2011-12-30 19:14:45] <Guile> Skorzeny?
  2837. [2011-12-30 19:14:47] <Arkeus> Goddam it, we need to meld Sake and Wisthling
  2838. [2011-12-30 19:14:52] <Fargist_The_Fifth> What was...
  2839. [2011-12-30 19:14:53] <Arkeus> if only for the SOUND EFFECT
  2840. [2011-12-30 19:14:57] <Arkeus> Damn Armin
  2841. [2011-12-30 19:14:58] <Fargist_The_Fifth> That one german nazi who loved human experiments
  2842. [2011-12-30 19:15:02] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Einrik can be him
  2843. [2011-12-30 19:15:51] * Conil waves
  2844. [2011-12-30 19:15:56] <Guile> who would WANT to be Josef Mengele? Although there is some similarity between Einrik and the Angel of Death
  2845. [2011-12-30 19:16:23] <Conil> ...
  2846. [2011-12-30 19:16:26] <Conil> The fuck?
  2847. [2011-12-30 19:16:31] <Fargist_The_Fifth> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele
  2848. [2011-12-30 19:16:36] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Dammit Guile, you beat me to it
  2849. [2011-12-30 19:16:51] <Arkeus> only by half a minute!
  2850. [2011-12-30 19:19:09] <Grail> I wish we had a line in to Ricky and Lucy
  2851. [2011-12-30 19:19:19] <Arkeus> Yeah :-(
  2852. [2011-12-30 19:19:28] <Grail> We could even offer to do body disposal for the job
  2853. [2011-12-30 19:19:35] <Arkeus> *chuckle*
  2854. [2011-12-30 19:19:44] <Bob> 3>BUTTZ "Yeah, that Armas... you hire him and ask for everything and you get a fucking platoon AND a goddamn performance art piece tailored to whoever you're fighting. Guy's got a sick sense of humor."
  2855. [2011-12-30 19:20:09] <Arkeus> Were you supposed to say something?
  2856. [2011-12-30 19:20:19] <Bob> 2I hope you grasp in the supernatural world, particularly fae... and vamps.... and demons... and a lot of things... that is an offer they'd pay a premium for.
  2857. [2011-12-30 19:20:28] <Arkeus> :D :D :D
  2858. [2011-12-30 19:20:57] <Fargist_The_Fifth> :D indeed
  2859. [2011-12-30 19:21:10] <Bob> 2I guess I'm saying: magic world has a lot of things that can... appreciate such a sense of humor and macabre way of defining 'art'
  2860. [2011-12-30 19:21:26] <Arkeus> We totally need to find a way to enhance our whistling somehow
  2861. [2011-12-30 19:21:30] <Arkeus> for background music
  2862. [2011-12-30 19:22:00] <EvilP> there's a service for sale, ironic assassinations
  2863. [2011-12-30 19:22:05] <AlratanMobile> Some things in the real world belong in GfH
  2864. [2011-12-30 19:22:07] <AlratanMobile> http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Lance#Vienna_Lance_.28Hofburg_spear.29
  2865. [2011-12-30 19:22:49] <Ironybot> Team, writing post- we need possible negotiating points other than money.
  2866. [2011-12-30 19:22:53] <BUTTZ> We've got to talk to Silja
  2867. [2011-12-30 19:22:58] <BUTTZ> I'm sure she'd be OK fighting Nazis
  2868. [2011-12-30 19:23:09] <Arkeus> She might not know who are Nazis, though
  2869. [2011-12-30 19:23:12] <BUTTZ> "Yeah, they lost, but some of those losers escaped and hung around"
  2870. [2011-12-30 19:23:16] <Arkeus> But we got to take her anyway
  2871. [2011-12-30 19:23:20] <BUTTZ> Uh she was alive during that period Ark
  2872. [2011-12-30 19:23:23] <EvilP> which war did Silja die in? winter war?
  2873. [2011-12-30 19:23:30] <Arkeus> I think a bit before
  2874. [2011-12-30 19:23:32] <EvilP> or continuation war?
  2875. [2011-12-30 19:23:34] <EvilP> or?
  2876. [2011-12-30 19:23:40] <Ironybot> Thus far I have loot off enemies and position in order of battle as negotiable points- that is, we could get paid more for going in first, which shouldn't be a problem with teleportation/Hillevi crazy ice armor if we can get her.
  2877. [2011-12-30 19:23:45] <BUTTZ> The whole ascendancy of the National Socialists was pretty much big news
  2878. [2011-12-30 19:24:07] <Guile> since we're the hired help, I dont think we get access to loot
  2879. [2011-12-30 19:24:08] <Arkeus> BUTTZ: but what they really were wasn't
  2880. [2011-12-30 19:24:18] <Arkeus> People really didn't believe how bad things were then
  2881. [2011-12-30 19:24:29] <Arkeus> I think SB get 'access' to loot
  2882. [2011-12-30 19:24:34] <BUTTZ> Nah but she'd know about them, and we can share what we know.
  2883. [2011-12-30 19:24:38] <Guile> I do like 'taking point' as a negotiable point. Rocco would rather us exposed to danger than his men
  2884. [2011-12-30 19:24:40] <Ironybot> Since we're hired help, I'm pretty sure we take whatever bonuses we can get.
  2885. [2011-12-30 19:24:44] <BUTTZ> It provides a good starting point.
  2886. [2011-12-30 19:25:05] <Ironybot> If he doesn't want us to take loot, he'd better make that explicit and make sure that we're getting compensatory funding.
  2887. [2011-12-30 19:25:23] <Arkeus> true
  2888. [2011-12-30 19:25:25] <BUTTZ> So if Rocco, Gianni, Hillevi, and Armas all show up that's four practicioners
  2889. [2011-12-30 19:25:39] <Ironybot> Mercenaries are historically rampant looters for exactly that reason- if the contract doesn't say not to loot, they will take everything not nailed down.
  2890. [2011-12-30 19:25:44] <Arkeus> Without counting SB, Sake, VikingBro
  2891. [2011-12-30 19:25:49] <BUTTZ> Right
  2892. [2011-12-30 19:25:55] <BUTTZ> Just four obvious practicioners
  2893. [2011-12-30 19:26:07] <BUTTZ> Gonna draw some attention
  2894. [2011-12-30 19:26:08] <Arkeus> Gianni is fleshcrafter right?
  2895. [2011-12-30 19:26:15] <Arkeus> why haven't we tried getting taught by him?
  2896. [2011-12-30 19:26:25] <BUTTZ> We haven't even met him
  2897. [2011-12-30 19:26:29] <Arkeus> oh right, we can'ty do squat until we learn a decent chakra alignment
  2898. [2011-12-30 19:26:30] <BUTTZ> Just the Russians have
  2899. [2011-12-30 19:26:32] <Ironybot> So no other ideas for talking points that might get us paid more?
  2900. [2011-12-30 19:26:47] <BUTTZ> Not without giving away information they likely don't have yet
  2901. [2011-12-30 19:27:01] <Arkeus> Ironybot: we have two healers
  2902. [2011-12-30 19:27:03] <BUTTZ> Everything I wrote took into account what they could have learned already
  2903. [2011-12-30 19:27:17] <Arkeus> Well, one we want to say
  2904. [2011-12-30 19:27:49] <Arkeus> We also have someone (Hillevi) who can reconstruct the battlefiel with walls/etc
  2905. [2011-12-30 19:28:05] <AlratanMobile> I'd prefer to have the Mafia not come along at all
  2906. [2011-12-30 19:28:18] <Ironybot> The mafia will at minimum send an observer.
  2907. [2011-12-30 19:28:21] <Arkeus> Alratan: no choice there, apparently Rocco wants the loot
  2908. [2011-12-30 19:28:27] <Arkeus> and doesn't trust Armas not to take it all
  2909. [2011-12-30 19:28:34] <Ironybot> Wise man.
  2910. [2011-12-30 19:28:48] <AlratanMobile> Invite Einrik, and do the entire job as a group
  2911. [2011-12-30 19:28:56] <AlratanMobile> SB then gets
  2912. [2011-12-30 19:29:03] <Ironybot> I think battlefield reconstruction falls under what he's paying Hillevi's base pay for.
  2913. [2011-12-30 19:29:08] <AlratanMobile> The chance to see him in action again
  2914. [2011-12-30 19:30:02] <Guile> incidentally; the loot? a treasure trove of defensive charms
  2915. [2011-12-30 19:30:15] <Arkeus> not just that, iirc
  2916. [2011-12-30 19:30:28] <Arkeus> Also, Ironybot, how would the guy knows about defensive walls and so on?
  2917. [2011-12-30 19:30:54] <Guile> what, Rocco? Presumable he knows what they are and instant defensive partitions value
  2918. [2011-12-30 19:31:15] <Ironybot> It doesn't matter if he knows about them; if he's paying hundreds of thousands of dollars for Hillevi to show up then nickel and diming him about specific actions she might take is bullshit and he'll know it.
  2919. [2011-12-30 19:31:46] <Arkeus> Ironybot: i meant selling up Hillevi's worth that way, not springing it up later on
  2920. [2011-12-30 19:31:49] <Arkeus> fair enough
  2921. [2011-12-30 19:31:52] <Ironybot> Healing is arguably a separate issue because this is being explicitly presented as an assault job, but taking helpful tactical actions? Can't charge for that.
  2922. [2011-12-30 19:32:21] <AlratanMobile> Agreed
  2923. [2011-12-30 19:33:08] <AlratanMobile> However, I don't think we should charge for either Einrik or Hillevi
  2924. [2011-12-30 19:33:18] <Arkeus> Ironybot, if you make a post, could you add the youtube video of a Germon march song that Armas could whistle?
  2925. [2011-12-30 19:33:24] <AlratanMobile> Just have them show up and kick much ass
  2926. [2011-12-30 19:33:49] <AlratanMobile> It sends a message
  2927. [2011-12-30 19:34:09] <BUTTZ> A message that we're sort of business-tarded
  2928. [2011-12-30 19:34:19] <Arkeus> It also tells rocco he doesn't need to pay us
  2929. [2011-12-30 19:34:36] <Arkeus> "The guy who did that you can't charge us with? cool, you get nothing"
  2930. [2011-12-30 19:34:56] <Arkeus> Einrik shouldn't really be bothered with doing this fight, too
  2931. [2011-12-30 19:35:05] <Arkeus> He might have fun looking if he wants, but...
  2932. [2011-12-30 19:36:04] <BUTTZ> "...a number of vending machines at the time accepted the 1 new lira coin as a €2 coin. Since €2 is worth roughly four times more, vending machines affected had to be upgraded at the expense of their owners."
  2933. [2011-12-30 19:36:06] <BUTTZ> Haw haw haw
  2934. [2011-12-30 19:36:19] <BUTTZ> Turkey trolled the European central bank
  2935. [2011-12-30 19:38:29] =-= Arkeus is now known as ArkNap
  2936. [2011-12-30 19:38:38] <Bob> 2Frankly, I'm not sure I see how you'd interest Einrik in the event-I could see Hillevi, sure-but why would Einrik give a crap about it?
  2937. [2011-12-30 19:38:39] <ArkNap> might rest a couple minutes/hours/day/months
  2938. [2011-12-30 19:38:41] <ArkNap> later
  2939. [2011-12-30 19:38:51] <ArkNap> bob: pretty much
  2940. [2011-12-30 19:39:08] <ArkNap> einrik's interest would only be to see Camella fight, or Hillevi in action directed by us
  2941. [2011-12-30 19:39:13] <AlratanMobile> It depends on how meaningful the higher ups are as opponents
  2942. [2011-12-30 19:39:16] <ArkNap> To see we aren't doing too badly
  2943. [2011-12-30 19:39:25] <ArkNap> So he wouldn't fight anyway
  2944. [2011-12-30 19:39:44] <AlratanMobile> That's rather defeatist
  2945. [2011-12-30 19:40:44] <AlratanMobile> If he can get an interesting fight out it
  2946. [2011-12-30 19:41:04] <AlratanMobile> He might come
  2947. [2011-12-30 19:41:23] <AlratanMobile> If they're too trivial, then he would stay out of it
  2948. [2011-12-30 19:42:12] <AlratanMobile> But he would essentially be insurance against the chance a real heavy hitter showed up
  2949. [2011-12-30 19:42:23] <Guile> I dont particularly care about Einirk showing up- it just seems rude to invite Hillevi and not him, since they're currently together
  2950. [2011-12-30 19:42:44] <Grail> I read part of that as "a real heavy hitler showed up".
  2951. [2011-12-30 19:42:47] <Guile> "Yo Einrik. Fighting Nazis. Wanna come with?"
  2952. [2011-12-30 19:42:53] <Guile> haha
  2953. [2011-12-30 19:45:42] <Bob> 2heavy hitler is sad when people comment about his weight
  2954. [2011-12-30 19:45:55] <Bob> 2heavy hitler drowns his sorrows at defeats in war... with doughnuts
  2955. [2011-12-30 19:46:11] <Bob> 2heavy hitler cries sugar-and farts a very special kind of gas....
  2956. [2011-12-30 19:46:13] <Guile> and then he drowns his sorrows about his weight with war
  2957. [2011-12-30 19:46:22] <Guile> it is a vicious cycle
  2958. [2011-12-30 19:46:46] <Grail> The Biggest Loser: Featuring Hitler
  2959. [2011-12-30 19:49:45] <Ironybot> There, I posted on things. I have a slightly different take on the way this should go than most suggestions- I would rather tell Rocco "yes but let me check exactly what I've got" and call him back after confirming what we actually have to sell than sell to him blind.
  2960. [2011-12-30 19:50:27] <Ironybot> It's slower and gives the impression that we're slightly less in control of all our assets- but it also gives the impression that when we say something it's because we've confirmed it's actually true and can back it up, which is important in future negotiations and dealings.
  2961. [2011-12-30 19:51:08] <Guile> I suppose we would need to check if Camella and Hillevi are available or not
  2962. [2011-12-30 19:51:18] <Guile> speed is definitely of the essence right now, though
  2963. [2011-12-30 19:51:48] <Ironybot> Also I want to troll Camella by simultaneously holding a phone conversation with someone else and talking to her and flawlessly carrying on both conversations. Which is a trick I'm pretty sure we can pull off without a problem.
  2964. [2011-12-30 19:52:26] <Ironybot> Incredible multitasking while being slightly rude and claiming business reasons to justify it is well within our skillset.
  2965. [2011-12-30 19:52:32] <Guile> by god, if we have to periodically drop into swift telepathy, then we shall
  2966. [2011-12-30 19:54:07] <Guile> kinda wondering if this job doesnt also double as Rocco's inventory of our assets
  2967. [2011-12-30 19:54:53] <AlratanMobile> That's why I want to suggest we hit the Nazi VIPs
  2968. [2011-12-30 19:55:32] <Ironybot> I would say that we should suggest that immediately after the assault is concluded, if it goes spectacularly well.
  2969. [2011-12-30 19:55:52] <Ironybot> We don't actually know how hard of a nut this will be to crack; we might not be in condition to hit their higher-ups afterward.
  2970. [2011-12-30 19:56:07] <Guile> yeah, once we've taken the warehouse, then we can decide if Rocco wants to throw in a ambush party get together
  2971. [2011-12-30 19:56:21] <Guile> bob said he was a more deliberative sort, though, and may not go for it
  2972. [2011-12-30 19:57:11] <ArkNap> At a guess, she means to take over our life and push us into being less lazy and completely erratic. Awesome. Hopefully it'll be like having a combined personal trainer/assistant/executive officer who thinks we're terrible at everything and we can troll constantly. <= ahahah
  2973. [2011-12-30 19:57:22] <Falconis> a reprogrammable glamor would be really nice to have
  2974. [2011-12-30 19:57:23] <ArkNap> Also, sleep is a bitch
  2975. [2011-12-30 19:57:28] =-= ArkNap is now known as Arkeus
  2976. [2011-12-30 19:57:47] <Guile> Amen's blood-based ones cant do that, but maybe gobbos have something
  2977. [2011-12-30 20:00:34] <Falconis> maybe
  2978. [2011-12-30 20:00:47] <Falconis> I also imagine it would be insanely expensive
  2979. [2011-12-30 20:00:53] <Falconis> for what I have in mind anyway
  2980. [2011-12-30 20:01:04] <Guile> I mean that that could be one of the charms we focus on learning to craft ourselves
  2981. [2011-12-30 20:01:07] <Guile> if it exists
  2982. [2011-12-30 20:02:06] <AlratanMobile> Once we've attacked the warehouse
  2983. [2011-12-30 20:02:17] <AlratanMobile> It will be too late to attack the higher ups
  2984. [2011-12-30 20:02:31] <AlratanMobile> Because then they won't show up
  2985. [2011-12-30 20:02:41] <Arkeus> That's an assumption
  2986. [2011-12-30 20:02:43] <Guile> nothing I can disagree with in your post, irony
  2987. [2011-12-30 20:02:47] <AlratanMobile> We're not the only person in the world with a mobile phone
  2988. [2011-12-30 20:02:54] <Arkeus> Also, this is Rocco's take. We aren't paid to plan his raid here.
  2989. [2011-12-30 20:03:08] <AlratanMobile> But we should
  2990. [2011-12-30 20:03:23] <Ironybot> If we plan his raid we need to charge him for strategic consulting services.
  2991. [2011-12-30 20:03:28] <AlratanMobile> To demonstrate that we're not simply hired help
  2992. [2011-12-30 20:03:36] <AlratanMobile> We're a player ourselves
  2993. [2011-12-30 20:03:37] <Arkeus> We also need to be able to PROVE we cna plan his raid
  2994. [2011-12-30 20:03:40] <Arkeus> and we really can't
  2995. [2011-12-30 20:03:51] <AlratanMobile> And we should be considered an allied force
  2996. [2011-12-30 20:03:53] <Arkeus> We don't have the resume to pull it off here.
  2997. [2011-12-30 20:04:01] <AlratanMobile> Not a contractor
  2998. [2011-12-30 20:04:08] <Arkeus> lol....
  2999. [2011-12-30 20:04:17] <AlratanMobile> Walk away then
  3000. [2011-12-30 20:04:21] <Ironybot> I look forward to having a reputation one day. When people can call us, say "There is a Nazi warehouse at this address. A million dollars to make it go away."
  3001. [2011-12-30 20:04:25] <Arkeus> We ARE a contracxtor
  3002. [2011-12-30 20:04:36] <Guile> in this case, we ARE the hired help
  3003. [2011-12-30 20:04:37] <Arkeus> Unless you want to stop having jobs with Riker/Triad/H&H
  3004. [2011-12-30 20:04:46] <Guile> but once he sees our chops, I think we can go for more from there
  3005. [2011-12-30 20:05:07] <Guile> Triad and Mafia might end up coming into conflict, anyway
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  3007. [2011-12-30 20:05:15] <Arkeus> Guile: yep
  3008. [2011-12-30 20:05:31] <Arkeus> So let's squeeze both as long as possible
  3009. [2011-12-30 20:05:33] <Guile> best case: both call us for a hit on the other
  3010. [2011-12-30 20:05:36] <Guile> or is that the worst?
  3011. [2011-12-30 20:06:07] <Falconis> probably the worst
  3012. [2011-12-30 20:06:08] <Guile> Rocco: "Lo Fang has a real killer working for him, killed Klaus Barby- I want you to take him out."
  3013. [2011-12-30 20:06:27] <Guile> Then we have to commit seppuku so we can rightly claim we killed him
  3014. [2011-12-30 20:06:28] <Falconis> because that's when you have to bug out and hope they don't kill you, or fight and hope they don't kill u
  3015. [2011-12-30 20:06:30] <Arkeus> Huh, the klaus barby thing was for Castelliagti
  3016. [2011-12-30 20:06:34] |<-- Fargist_The_Fifth has left irc.rizon.net (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
  3017. [2011-12-30 20:06:34] <Arkeus> Rocco knows that
  3018. [2011-12-30 20:06:37] <Arkeus> iirc
  3019. [2011-12-30 20:06:38] <Guile> oh, right
  3020. [2011-12-30 20:06:49] <Ironybot> Ideally we'll be able to convince them to use us as middleman for eliminating all other underworld figures and dividing the town down the middle, then have each of them pay us a periodic retainer to call us in and stamp out any other outfits who move into town.
  3021. [2011-12-30 20:06:52] <Guile> what HAVE we done for Lo Fang, besides the dock jobs? The Reapers, I guess
  3022. [2011-12-30 20:07:05] <Arkeus> Doonegaes
  3023. [2011-12-30 20:07:14] <Grail> The ship
  3024. [2011-12-30 20:07:14] <Arkeus> Destroying his med room
  3025. [2011-12-30 20:07:17] <Guile> that'll work for awhile, Irony. Hopefully quest ends before they decide its time to take total control
  3026. [2011-12-30 20:07:44] <Guile> Mafia and Triad arent exactly sharing and caring types
  3027. [2011-12-30 20:07:47] <Falconis> I think they profit more from having each other around
  3028. [2011-12-30 20:07:50] <Falconis> not sure why
  3029. [2011-12-30 20:08:15] <Arkeus> I am pretty sure the Mafia aren't up to snuff compared to Triad
  3030. [2011-12-30 20:08:18] <Ironybot> They don't have to be sharing and caring types; they only have to decide that it's more profitable to keep their good thing going than to risk it all on an all-out war against the town's only other major gang.
  3031. [2011-12-30 20:08:27] <Arkeus> Given Savoy was one of the best operatives there...
  3032. [2011-12-30 20:08:29] <Falconis> exactly
  3033. [2011-12-30 20:08:49] <Guile> honestly, as visible as we are, Rocco will probably know we know the Triads soon enough
  3034. [2011-12-30 20:08:51] <Falconis> Lo fang ain't no pushover either
  3035. [2011-12-30 20:09:02] <Guile> they are if they call in the Fingers, Ark
  3036. [2011-12-30 20:09:12] <Arkeus> Savoy was a finger
  3037. [2011-12-30 20:09:23] <Falconis> but they got more
  3038. [2011-12-30 20:09:24] <Guile> so 4 people that are slightly weaker than him
  3039. [2011-12-30 20:09:25] <Ironybot> Yeah, the Mafia don't really seem to be on the same tier as the Triads- they've got practitioners, but I suspect that the while "China is the homeland of all awesome magic" thing gives the Triads a huge edge.
  3040. [2011-12-30 20:09:32] <Grail> They lost quite a few of those fingers against Savoy
  3041. [2011-12-30 20:09:37] <Guile> orly?
  3042. [2011-12-30 20:09:38] <Falconis> and possibly another hand
  3043. [2011-12-30 20:09:42] <Ironybot> Not slightly weaker so much as less suited to independent operation, I think.
  3044. [2011-12-30 20:09:52] <Arkeus> I think just much, much smaller
  3045. [2011-12-30 20:09:59] <Falconis> traid is old
  3046. [2011-12-30 20:10:01] <Falconis> very old
  3047. [2011-12-30 20:10:12] <AlratanMobile> I suspect the mafia has other assets we haven't seen
  3048. [2011-12-30 20:10:12] <Grail> If I recall Savoy has been made to kill his best friend, the Cosa Nostra boy, and a couple others
  3049. [2011-12-30 20:10:30] <Arkeus> Yeah, While triad boss is a crucible champion, i don't think she is the only draconic-tier in there
  3050. [2011-12-30 20:10:37] <Falconis> she?
  3051. [2011-12-30 20:10:53] <Arkeus> Grail: huh? you mean pre-quest?
  3052. [2011-12-30 20:11:00] <Falconis> I imagined some bald old, life supported man
  3053. [2011-12-30 20:11:04] <Ironybot> Also, one thing to consider- from what I recall, it's not "the Triad" so much as "the Triads", that is, there are numerous competing Triad organizations.
  3054. [2011-12-30 20:11:05] <Falconis> not a she
  3055. [2011-12-30 20:11:08] <Arkeus> Nah, Triad boss is a she
  3056. [2011-12-30 20:11:10] <Arkeus> Dragon
  3057. [2011-12-30 20:11:16] <Arkeus> Well, former human turned dragon
  3058. [2011-12-30 20:11:17] <A_Mad_Oyster> Someone ping me when Bob updates, k?
  3059. [2011-12-30 20:11:22] <AlratanMobile> Triads date back to what, 1760? As the Heaven and Earth society
  3060. [2011-12-30 20:11:58] <Falconis> ...how do you even become a dragon
  3061. [2011-12-30 20:12:02] <Falconis> whatisthisidonteven
  3062. [2011-12-30 20:12:07] <Arkeus> I wonder if Triad boss was its boss before she won the crucible
  3063. [2011-12-30 20:12:58] <Grail> Cosa Nostra are 1860s or so, maybe.
  3064. [2011-12-30 20:13:01] <Grail> They don't keep records
  3065. [2011-12-30 20:13:12] <Grail> So who the hell knows.
  3066. [2011-12-30 20:13:23] <Falconis> did she win/lose a bet with a wizard or somn?
  3067. [2011-12-30 20:13:32] <Grail> Crucible.
  3068. [2011-12-30 20:13:40] <Falconis> the heck is that
  3069. [2011-12-30 20:13:46] <Grail> A giant tournament in which the winner can become a dragon
  3070. [2011-12-30 20:13:50] <Falconis> wat
  3071. [2011-12-30 20:13:55] <Falconis> are you kidding me
  3072. [2011-12-30 20:14:03] <Grail> Nope
  3073. [2011-12-30 20:14:03] <Falconis> >you win
  3074. [2011-12-30 20:14:09] <Falconis> >become a dragon
  3075. [2011-12-30 20:14:11] <Falconis> what
  3076. [2011-12-30 20:14:13] <Arkeus> used by dragons to kill the most talented humans
  3077. [2011-12-30 20:14:21] <Falconis> :I
  3078. [2011-12-30 20:14:22] <A_Mad_Oyster> Indeed
  3079. [2011-12-30 20:14:25] <Grail> Takes about fifty dragons networking together to do it
  3080. [2011-12-30 20:14:25] <Arkeus> Well, 'kill'
  3081. [2011-12-30 20:14:28] <A_Mad_Oyster> You win, you become a daragon
  3082. [2011-12-30 20:14:30] <A_Mad_Oyster> dragon*
  3083. [2011-12-30 20:15:04] <Falconis> can non humans enter?
  3084. [2011-12-30 20:15:47] <Falconis> if so I nominate best hummingbird
  3085. [2011-12-30 20:15:59] <Ironybot> Yes, by my understanding nonhumans can enter. Encantado and such were mentioned.
  3086. [2011-12-30 20:16:28] <Falconis> heck yea
  3087. [2011-12-30 20:16:37] <Falconis> hummingbird-dragon champion
  3088. [2011-12-30 20:16:40] <Arkeus> oh fuck
  3089. [2011-12-30 20:16:40] <Grail> Keep in mind this is at the level where people like Einrik are fighting
  3090. [2011-12-30 20:16:52] <Arkeus> Best Hummingbird would so get a INCREDIBLE spirit
  3091. [2011-12-30 20:16:57] <Arkeus> too bad it probably can't take it
  3092. [2011-12-30 20:16:58] <Guile> actually, the hummingbird would ROCK THE COMPETITION
  3093. [2011-12-30 20:17:02] <AlratanMobile> Hummingbird should definitely get involved
  3094. [2011-12-30 20:17:16] <Grail> There's a guy with two bloodlines, an artifact bloodline sword, and probably two other artifacts.
  3095. [2011-12-30 20:17:23] <Grail> There's someone that's a living plague
  3096. [2011-12-30 20:17:28] <AlratanMobile> But we need him to have a bloodline and be Emperor of All Birds first
  3097. [2011-12-30 20:17:31] <Falconis> let me guess, it takes place in a palace of Jade surrounded by lava in the bowels of the earth
  3098. [2011-12-30 20:17:31] <Guile> you get a spirit summoned thats the inverse of your soul weight - if you're strong, you get a sensor-type. A few mundanes get in, and have crazy-strong spirits
  3099. [2011-12-30 20:17:49] <Guile> the hummingbird's soul is impossibly complex, but tiny. Its spirit would crush faces
  3100. [2011-12-30 20:17:56] <Arkeus> Hummingbird would get crazy strong spirit
  3101. [2011-12-30 20:18:02] <Guile> the dragon presiding has an iron hand
  3102. [2011-12-30 20:18:06] <Arkeus> But i don't know if it CAN get one
  3103. [2011-12-30 20:18:08] <Bob> 2Spirit animals and slaved souls in general cannot compete
  3104. [2011-12-30 20:18:10] <Arkeus> given it's a spirit animal
  3105. [2011-12-30 20:18:13] <Falconis> booooo
  3106. [2011-12-30 20:18:14] <Bob> 2have to be under your own direction
  3107. [2011-12-30 20:18:20] <Arkeus> *sandess*
  3108. [2011-12-30 20:18:26] <Bob> 2sandy sadness
  3109. [2011-12-30 20:18:29] <Arkeus> yeah, that was the iffy bit
  3110. [2011-12-30 20:18:34] <Wutenheimer> http://www.wimp.com/rodah/
  3111. [2011-12-30 20:18:42] <Arkeus> bob: Hummingbird will make its displeasure known
  3112. [2011-12-30 20:18:45] <Falconis> ok armas enters
  3113. [2011-12-30 20:18:50] <Falconis> takes a chair
  3114. [2011-12-30 20:18:52] <Arkeus> Incidentally, how good would its odds have been?
  3115. [2011-12-30 20:18:57] <Falconis> a bottle of red wine
  3116. [2011-12-30 20:19:06] <Falconis> sits down and makes hummingbird fight
  3117. [2011-12-30 20:19:07] <Arkeus> Would it have gotten monstruously powerful spirit?
  3118. [2011-12-30 20:19:25] <Falconis> "If you cannot even beat my spirit animal you are 100 years too early to face me?"
  3119. [2011-12-30 20:19:33] <Falconis> *trollface*
  3120. [2011-12-30 20:19:40] <Falconis> minus ?
  3121. [2011-12-30 20:19:52] <Guile> unfortunately, the spirit would be based on Armas's soul. Sensor-type
  3122. [2011-12-30 20:20:03] <Arkeus> Probably not sensor type
  3123. [2011-12-30 20:20:09] <Arkeus> probably middle of the road
  3124. [2011-12-30 20:20:11] <Arkeus> :-(
  3125. [2011-12-30 20:20:16] <Falconis> hey, I'm fine with a thousand mile eye
  3126. [2011-12-30 20:21:50] <Falconis> hmm
  3127. [2011-12-30 20:21:52] <Falconis> know what
  3128. [2011-12-30 20:22:20] <Falconis> Armas should just learn how to fly, get a really loud voice and the ability to breathe fire
  3129. [2011-12-30 20:22:29] <Ironybot> Armas is most of the way to flying, I think.
  3130. [2011-12-30 20:22:30] <Falconis> and then start calling himself a dragon
  3131. [2011-12-30 20:22:31] <Arkeus> Why?
  3132. [2011-12-30 20:22:49] <Arkeus> Armas also could get Thunder voice pretty 'soon'
  3133. [2011-12-30 20:22:58] <Arkeus> But calling himself a dragon = suicide
  3134. [2011-12-30 20:22:59] <Ironybot> Hummingbird boosts+I bet there's some kind of jumping or lightening chakra orientation that Lo Fang could teach us in a matter of seconds.
  3135. [2011-12-30 20:22:59] <Arkeus> i think
  3136. [2011-12-30 20:23:02] <AlratanMobile> Is the hummingbird slaved to our soul though?
  3137. [2011-12-30 20:23:03] <Falconis> tis why I even thought of it
  3138. [2011-12-30 20:23:35] <Ironybot> If I understand correctly, the hummingbird is slaved to our soul, but the slaving mechanism has a damper (its body) on it.
  3139. [2011-12-30 20:23:40] <Guile> its connected
  3140. [2011-12-30 20:23:41] <Arkeus> It's our spirit animal- it can still grow so far, but not for long
  3141. [2011-12-30 20:23:47] <Falconis> when it dies, that's it
  3142. [2011-12-30 20:24:06] <Falconis> so the longer we keep it 'alive' the more it can grow?
  3143. [2011-12-30 20:24:09] <Ironybot> Yes.
  3144. [2011-12-30 20:24:14] <Falconis> hot damn, we need to find a mage
  3145. [2011-12-30 20:24:19] <Arkeus> Why?
  3146. [2011-12-30 20:24:28] <Falconis> keep his body entact
  3147. [2011-12-30 20:24:31] <Wutenheimer> http://www.wimp.com/buildit/ i lold
  3148. [2011-12-30 20:24:35] <Arkeus> Has nothing to do with the body
  3149. [2011-12-30 20:24:38] <Ironybot> As long as we can maintain its body it can continue to grow stronger. I'm hoping that Sake will be able to heal its body into staying intact.
  3150. [2011-12-30 20:24:39] <Guile> I stoll hold that the longer we can saturate its body with our soul, the stronger it will end up
  3151. [2011-12-30 20:25:03] <Falconis> ...so we just need to switch chakras to spirit animal then
  3152. [2011-12-30 20:25:08] <Falconis> FOOD
  3153. [2011-12-30 20:25:12] <Guile> I dunno if he can heal what is effectively us smothering it
  3154. [2011-12-30 20:25:30] <AlratanMobile> I'm still trying to work out a way to make it have a copy of the Einheir bloodline
  3155. [2011-12-30 20:25:31] <Falconis> blast it with as much as possible before it dies
  3156. [2011-12-30 20:25:47] <Falconis> !
  3157. [2011-12-30 20:26:05] <Guile> we could give it the item sensing if we understood how WE had it, and Lo Fang's charms can do something similar to what it did to the Disciple
  3158. [2011-12-30 20:26:09] <Falconis> that's it, it's linked to our soul, which is winter aspected yes?
  3159. [2011-12-30 20:26:20] <Falconis> so it makes sense that it shares our bloodline powers
  3160. [2011-12-30 20:26:23] <Arkeus> Bob did say that Einher!Hummingbird would maybe be possible, but probably not effective
  3161. [2011-12-30 20:26:28] <Falconis> which is why it can do all this shit
  3162. [2011-12-30 20:26:34] <Guile> which seemed to triple the Disciple's power when it zombified him
  3163. [2011-12-30 20:26:36] <Arkeus> of course that's why
  3164. [2011-12-30 20:26:41] <Arkeus> it's flat out said in the quest
  3165. [2011-12-30 20:26:48] <Guile> it shares our soul, maybe not our bloodline
  3166. [2011-12-30 20:26:53] <Falconis> I must have missed it
  3167. [2011-12-30 20:26:53] <Wutenheimer> http://www.wimp.com/kellyneil/
  3168. [2011-12-30 20:27:02] <Falconis> but that means he can soul dominate
  3169. [2011-12-30 20:27:10] <Arkeus> Guile: he can use our bloodline because it is good with souls by itself
  3170. [2011-12-30 20:27:11] <Falconis> and that's why he can see our chakras
  3171. [2011-12-30 20:27:23] <Falconis> and see all that other stuff
  3172. [2011-12-30 20:27:30] <Falconis> and manipulate his soul like that
  3173. [2011-12-30 20:27:31] <Arkeus> But, iirc, he did use our own power to link with silja
  3174. [2011-12-30 20:27:54] <Falconis> I just had no idea how he did that, but now I know I guess
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  3176. [2011-12-30 20:28:23] <Arkeus> Pinged out?
  3177. [2011-12-30 20:28:42] <Guile> if the hummingbird could use Lordly Imposition, man... thatd be it
  3178. [2011-12-30 20:28:46] <mib_2vprue> Yes
  3179. [2011-12-30 20:28:58] <Guile> *fluffs feathers* *everyone hits the deck on their knees*
  3180. [2011-12-30 20:29:03] <AlratanMobile> That must be what it used on Silja
  3181. [2011-12-30 20:29:08] <Arkeus> ^
  3182. [2011-12-30 20:29:48] <Falconis> I'm sure he can
  3183. [2011-12-30 20:30:07] <Falconis> probably has darkening too, which is what the flower shit is about
  3184. [2011-12-30 20:30:15] <Falconis> >I want to do this, so I do it
  3185. [2011-12-30 20:30:17] <Falconis> done
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  3187. [2011-12-30 20:30:48] <Waryobserver> Can we use lordly inposition on ourselves?
  3188. [2011-12-30 20:30:50] <Falconis> Humans have a bit more going on in the head so it's probably much more dangerous
  3189. [2011-12-30 20:31:04] <Arkeus> Lordly imposition is abit using soul manip on range
  3190. [2011-12-30 20:31:05] <Falconis> we can make ourselves believe anything
  3191. [2011-12-30 20:31:09] <AlratanMobile> I'm disappointed that Einheir!Bird would not be effective
  3192. [2011-12-30 20:31:12] <Arkeus> We are MUCH better on ourself
  3193. [2011-12-30 20:31:46] <Guile> its fluffed as a Jedi mind trick, but really it's just beating people into submission with our soul
  3194. [2011-12-30 20:31:55] =-= mib_2vprue is now known as Grail
  3195. [2011-12-30 20:32:07] <Wutenheimer> http://www.wimp.com/everyoneneeds/ 007 pool
  3196. [2011-12-30 20:32:10] <Guile> we make them do what we want, not make them (or ourselves) believe whatever we want
  3197. [2011-12-30 20:32:32] <Arkeus> ...That's not what it does
  3198. [2011-12-30 20:32:34] <Falconis> that is amazing
  3199. [2011-12-30 20:32:43] <Arkeus> It's about being able to to stuff to other souls
  3200. [2011-12-30 20:32:49] <Arkeus> As in soul sculpt, etc
  3201. [2011-12-30 20:33:01] <Arkeus> 'beat into submission' is like the poor way of using it
  3202. [2011-12-30 20:34:08] <Wutenheimer> http://www.wimp.com/theiceman/ armas.avi
  3203. [2011-12-30 20:34:17] <Arkeus> ooooooooooold
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  3205. [2011-12-30 20:34:31] <Arkeus> ah, no, not what i thought
  3206. [2011-12-30 20:34:47] <Falconis> at least he is wearing pants :I
  3207. [2011-12-30 20:34:53] <Wutenheimer> >pants
  3208. [2011-12-30 20:34:54] <Arkeus> :-(
  3209. [2011-12-30 20:34:56] <Arkeus> how dare he
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  3211. [2011-12-30 20:41:05] <Arkeus> Wb GuGu-ile
  3212. [2011-12-30 20:41:07] <G-man> I did misread the Lordly Imposition tag. Although it says it pits Armas versus the other soul directly, it is strictly for soul manipulation
  3213. [2011-12-30 20:41:18] <Arkeus> Yeah.
  3214. [2011-12-30 20:42:34] <Arkeus> I mean, it might be possible to 'possess' the other guy, but that would be a specific use of it, and would need to be learned to i expect-and time.
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  3216. [2011-12-30 20:43:04] =-= G-man is now known as Guile
  3217. [2011-12-30 20:43:05] <Falconis> I still want to see Armas do the Goran line
  3218. [2011-12-30 20:43:17] <Guile> which is?
  3219. [2011-12-30 20:43:18] <Falconis> "PROSTRATE YOURSELF BEFORE ME"
  3220. [2011-12-30 20:43:27] <Guile> ah yeah, that was exactly what I thought it did
  3221. [2011-12-30 20:44:09] <Falconis> except Goran had gravity, so it's cheating
  3222. [2011-12-30 20:44:16] <Falconis> but ti was still a great line
  3223. [2011-12-30 20:44:18] <Falconis> it*
  3224. [2011-12-30 20:45:54] <Falconis> man this bird would be a great test subject
  3225. [2011-12-30 20:46:01] <Arkeus> http://www.goblinscomic.com/ logic
  3226. [2011-12-30 20:46:03] <Falconis> nah
  3227. [2011-12-30 20:49:40] <BUTTZ> http://www.wimp.com/santaclaus/
  3228. [2011-12-30 20:50:16] <Wutenheimer> saw it, fucking hilarious
  3229. [2011-12-30 20:50:30] <Wutenheimer> i prefer mark walberg though
  3230. [2011-12-30 20:51:57] <Wutenheimer> http://www.wimp.com/celticsfan/ ... what
  3231. [2011-12-30 20:52:17] <Falconis> >nobody knows Matt Damon
  3232. [2011-12-30 20:52:20] <Falconis> loooool
  3233. [2011-12-30 20:54:09] <Falconis> I wonder what possesd this guy
  3234. [2011-12-30 20:54:14] <Falconis> possessed*
  3235. [2011-12-30 20:55:32] <Guile> wow, I am REALLY far behind on Goblins
  3236. [2011-12-30 20:55:46] <Falconis> it's fun
  3237. [2011-12-30 20:55:54] <Falconis> wish it updated faster
  3238. [2011-12-30 20:56:37] <Wutenheimer> http://www.wimp.com/legallybank/
  3239. [2011-12-30 20:57:07] <Guile> apparently I havent checked up on it since august
  3240. [2011-12-30 20:58:10] <Falconis> http://www.wimp.com/staticycat/
  3241. [2011-12-30 21:01:19] <Falconis> lol
  3242. [2011-12-30 21:03:47] <Wutenheimer> this is the best bank robbery ever
  3243. [2011-12-30 21:04:46] <Falconis> indeed
  3244. [2011-12-30 21:07:18] <Bob> 2I wonder if he could keep count of how many times that story got him laid.
  3245. [2011-12-30 21:07:38] <Falconis> man probably had a threesome that same night
  3246. [2011-12-30 21:08:08] <Bob> 2I mean, he can INSTANTLY grab a whole room's attention with this story
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  3249. [2011-12-30 21:13:00] <A_Greedy_Squid> Go away, Oyster.
  3250. [2011-12-30 21:13:29] <Falconis> http://www.wimp.com/dubfx/
  3251. [2011-12-30 21:14:03] <Falconis> this is amazing
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  3253. [2011-12-30 21:16:03] <Wutenheimer> http://www.wimp.com/facialexpressions/ freaky shit yo
  3254. [2011-12-30 21:18:52] <Wutenheimer> smack dab in the middle of the uncanny valley
  3255. [2011-12-30 21:19:06] <Wutenheimer> but hes an actual human
  3256. [2011-12-30 21:19:09] <Wutenheimer> it doesnt make sence
  3257. [2011-12-30 21:22:51] <Shifter20> Sure it does, just have to strain the right muscles.
  3258. [2011-12-30 21:23:15] <Wutenheimer> am boreded
  3259. [2011-12-30 21:23:52] <BUTTZ> http://www.wimp.com/whistlingguy/
  3260. [2011-12-30 21:24:09] <BUTTZ> I wonder if Hummingbird would be impressed?
  3261. [2011-12-30 21:24:31] <Shifter20> Laughingdragons.gif
  3262. [2011-12-30 21:24:34] <Guile> wonder if Armas can do that
  3263. [2011-12-30 21:26:18] <Grail> Linked that before
  3264. [2011-12-30 21:26:20] <Grail> Armas can
  3265. [2011-12-30 21:27:06] <A_Greedy_Squid> I can't stop staring at his 'stache
  3266. [2011-12-30 21:27:16] <Guile> pity it has no useful applications, since we have radios and hummingbird can pretty much only hear us
  3267. [2011-12-30 21:28:04] <Wutenheimer> oh god mullet
  3268. [2011-12-30 21:28:14] <Wutenheimer> how the fuck
  3269. [2011-12-30 21:28:40] <BUTTZ> Armas could grow a mullet on demand if he thought of it as part of himself
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  3271. [2011-12-30 21:28:53] <Wutenheimer> ... perfect
  3272. [2011-12-30 21:28:54] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Gentlemen.
  3273. [2011-12-30 21:29:02] <Falconis> Gentlegun
  3274. [2011-12-30 21:29:04] <Wutenheimer> [22:28:47] <BUTTZ> Armas could grow a mullet on demand if he thought of it as part of himself
  3275. [2011-12-30 21:29:13] <BUTTZ> Goes back to the vampire hair thing
  3276. [2011-12-30 21:29:25] <Falconis> Memory fleshcrafting
  3277. [2011-12-30 21:29:31] <Wutenheimer> and armas can think whatever the fuck he wants
  3278. [2011-12-30 21:29:33] <Wutenheimer> because m7
  3279. [2011-12-30 21:29:39] <Falconis> you just have to have a very good image of yourself
  3280. [2011-12-30 21:29:41] <Falconis> and then change it
  3281. [2011-12-30 21:29:50] <Wutenheimer> fuck you mind i have a mullet now
  3282. [2011-12-30 21:30:00] <Falconis> basically
  3283. [2011-12-30 21:30:13] <Falconis> this is even easier because Armas can lie to himself
  3284. [2011-12-30 21:30:21] <Guile> yes, that works. bob ruled that it would mess up our self-image after awhile
  3285. [2011-12-30 21:30:23] <Falconis> so he really WILL belive it was teher
  3286. [2011-12-30 21:30:30] <Falconis> there*
  3287. [2011-12-30 21:30:32] <Falconis> yea I know
  3288. [2011-12-30 21:30:44] <Falconis> it makes you wonder what you really are
  3289. [2011-12-30 21:30:48] <Falconis> so don't abuse it
  3290. [2011-12-30 21:31:16] <Wutenheimer> by which you mean...
  3291. [2011-12-30 21:31:20] <Wutenheimer> abuse the fuck out of it?
  3292. [2011-12-30 21:31:22] <Falconis> next thing you know you become some horrible monstrosity, unable to return to your normal form because you cannot remember it
  3293. [2011-12-30 21:31:27] <Wutenheimer> :D
  3294. [2011-12-30 21:31:57] <Falconis> heh
  3295. [2011-12-30 21:32:09] <Falconis> normally I would say yes, but Armas isn't Bang
  3296. [2011-12-30 21:32:11] <Falconis> sadly
  3297. [2011-12-30 21:32:20] <Waryobserver> YET
  3298. [2011-12-30 21:33:01] <A_Greedy_Squid> ^YET
  3299. [2011-12-30 21:33:01] <Falconis> indeed *grin*
  3300. [2011-12-30 21:33:30] <Wutenheimer> fast thinking, regeneration, flesh magic
  3301. [2011-12-30 21:33:33] <Wutenheimer> we're getting there
  3302. [2011-12-30 21:33:45] <Wutenheimer> biology class is go!
  3303. [2011-12-30 21:33:56] <Wutenheimer> armas needs to go to university
  3304. [2011-12-30 21:33:58] <Falconis> if we copy our mind before we start we have a good chance of being able to return to our normal form
  3305. [2011-12-30 21:34:04] <Falconis> and then implant the new memories
  3306. [2011-12-30 21:34:06] <Wutenheimer> timeskip? timeskip!
  3307. [2011-12-30 21:35:19] <Falconis> but I don't actually want that, just throwing ideas around
  3308. [2011-12-30 21:35:45] <Shifter20> Now as long as you don't go about removing his pleural layers for chakra training...
  3309. [2011-12-30 21:36:11] * Falconis grins manically
  3310. [2011-12-30 21:37:13] <Wutenheimer> also, how much do you want to bet there are a bunch of korean monks who sit around all day with their chakras aligned to MORE CHAKRA
  3311. [2011-12-30 21:37:26] <Falconis> ...lol
  3312. [2011-12-30 21:37:45] <Shifter20> I'll bet you 100CE.
  3313. [2011-12-30 21:38:00] <Falconis> ...Chaos Energy?
  3314. [2011-12-30 21:38:33] <Shifter20> Crystal Energy.
  3315. [2011-12-30 21:38:55] <Falconis> http://vimeo.com/2795177
  3316. [2011-12-30 21:38:55] <Classhole> Falconis: Comedy, Music and Dance - length 128s - 3 likes - 3473 plays - Ben Dowden on 2009-01-11 16:55:41
  3317. [2011-12-30 21:41:33] <Falconis> ok, so do we have a soul attack for Armas yet?
  3318. [2011-12-30 21:41:51] <Falconis> really we should be able to do the same stuff the bird does at least
  3319. [2011-12-30 21:42:18] <Falconis> though I think the bird is more comfortable with manipulating his soul
  3320. [2011-12-30 21:42:27] <Falconis> even if he doesn't know he was doing it
  3321. [2011-12-30 21:44:33] <Falconis> Armas doesn't seem like a fisticuffs guy to me though
  3322. [2011-12-30 21:44:52] <Falconis> so the memories for Simo seem like the best bet for getting an Armas applicable soul attack
  3323. [2011-12-30 21:45:03] <Falconis> well DEVELOPING one
  3324. [2011-12-30 21:45:08] <BUTTZ> Simo's memories are tied to killing and being a sniper
  3325. [2011-12-30 21:45:18] <Falconis> yes
  3326. [2011-12-30 21:45:33] <Falconis> I was thinking about a soul attack through a gun
  3327. [2011-12-30 21:45:36] <BUTTZ> He did a lot of killing with his smg and rifle
  3328. [2011-12-30 21:45:40] <Falconis> a rifle even
  3329. [2011-12-30 21:45:58] <Falconis> a love love harmony gattai with Silja
  3330. [2011-12-30 21:46:07] * Falconis has mixed feelings about that joke
  3331. [2011-12-30 21:47:03] <Falconis> but yea, soul attack through guns, initiated by intense focus and comfort with the piece you are holding
  3332. [2011-12-30 21:47:11] <Falconis> a resonance between you and the instrument
  3333. [2011-12-30 21:47:23] <Falconis> so much that it feels like part of your body
  3334. [2011-12-30 21:47:37] <Falconis> so I was thinking that the memories from Simo would give us an edge there
  3335. [2011-12-30 21:48:18] <Dart666> we could try to shoot soul bullets through our fingers
  3336. [2011-12-30 21:48:27] <Falconis> seems dangerous
  3337. [2011-12-30 21:48:36] <Falconis> also more difficult since we wouldn't have a channel
  3338. [2011-12-30 21:49:00] <Falconis> but awesome
  3339. [2011-12-30 21:49:14] <Falconis> >point fingers
  3340. [2011-12-30 21:49:17] <Falconis> >"bang"
  3341. [2011-12-30 21:49:20] <Falconis> >guy dies
  3342. [2011-12-30 21:49:24] <Dart666> http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l3zz4gmPKu1qap3udo1_500.jpg
  3343. [2011-12-30 21:49:34] <Falconis> yeeep
  3344. [2011-12-30 21:49:42] <Grail> We've had this conversation before
  3345. [2011-12-30 21:49:47] <Falconis> yes we have
  3346. [2011-12-30 21:49:54] <Grail> Several times
  3347. [2011-12-30 21:50:01] <Falconis> which is why I've been focusing on the gun
  3348. [2011-12-30 21:50:40] <Falconis> and actually choosing a soul attack for Armas
  3349. [2011-12-30 21:50:43] <BUTTZ> You know, Armas could provide catering, performance art, and contract killing in one neat package
  3350. [2011-12-30 21:50:59] <BUTTZ> The Dinner and a Show deak
  3351. [2011-12-30 21:51:00] <BUTTZ> deal
  3352. [2011-12-30 21:51:07] <Falconis> because with all the conversations we haven't even come close to starting on won
  3353. [2011-12-30 21:52:02] <Grail> That's more because Armas can't actually use his soul manipulation yet.
  3354. [2011-12-30 21:52:15] <Guile> has no idea what he's doing
  3355. [2011-12-30 21:52:35] <Falconis> this isn't even something you need to consciously know how to do
  3356. [2011-12-30 21:52:43] <Guile> for being the 'ready and go' option over Item and Border, it sure isnt making itself transparent to us
  3357. [2011-12-30 21:52:46] <Falconis> how to activate anyway
  3358. [2011-12-30 21:53:25] <Grail> The Hummingbird could instinctively do it, I have less than high hopes for Armas.
  3359. [2011-12-30 21:53:39] <Falconis> as I said, this is something you get from experience
  3360. [2011-12-30 21:53:43] <Falconis> lots of it
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  3362. [2011-12-30 21:53:53] <A_Greedy_Squid> Dat bird can even spin around fast like a drill
  3363. [2011-12-30 21:53:54] <Falconis> Bird has tons of experience using his natural weapons
  3364. [2011-12-30 21:54:02] <A_Greedy_Squid> Your beak is the beak that shall pierce the magics!
  3365. [2011-12-30 21:54:13] <Guile> he doesnt enjoy doing it, though
  3366. [2011-12-30 21:54:15] <Falconis> and surpassing limits of normal birds
  3367. [2011-12-30 21:54:26] <Grail> Fantastic, let's just toss our level two shooting ability in the ring.
  3368. [2011-12-30 21:54:28] <Falconis> the bird does not enjoy winning?
  3369. [2011-12-30 21:54:29] <Guile> plus, now that he has our soul to work with...
  3370. [2011-12-30 21:54:45] <Guile> would you enjoy spinning around so fast your centrifugal force turns you into a drill?
  3371. [2011-12-30 21:54:46] <Dart666> we really need to get those memories
  3372. [2011-12-30 21:54:57] <Falconis> not really no
  3373. [2011-12-30 21:55:01] <Falconis> I would get dizzy
  3374. [2011-12-30 21:55:06] <Guile> yeah, him too
  3375. [2011-12-30 21:55:26] <Falconis> but I think the memories from Simo would give us some SERIOUS comfort with sniping and using rifles
  3376. [2011-12-30 21:55:43] <Falconis> so a soul link would be much easier to set up
  3377. [2011-12-30 21:55:44] <Guile> yep. but how do we get into Silja and get them?
  3378. [2011-12-30 21:55:53] <Falconis> plus we are already linked to Silja
  3379. [2011-12-30 21:55:56] <Falconis> so even better
  3380. [2011-12-30 21:56:08] <Falconis> ask her for them I would expect
  3381. [2011-12-30 21:56:18] <Dart666> we could just have amen do it
  3382. [2011-12-30 21:56:22] <Falconis> and then ask Einrik to help you out *trollface*
  3383. [2011-12-30 21:56:29] <A_Greedy_Squid> When are we going to get a fang necklace that we'll hang on the rifle for her?
  3384. [2011-12-30 21:56:29] <Falconis> hell no, not Amen
  3385. [2011-12-30 21:56:31] |<-- AlratanMobile has left irc.rizon.net (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
  3386. [2011-12-30 21:56:33] <Falconis> never Amen
  3387. [2011-12-30 21:56:34] =-= AlratanMobile_ is now known as AlratanMobile
  3388. [2011-12-30 21:56:44] <Falconis> when she is back to her old self
  3389. [2011-12-30 21:56:48] <Guile> I wonder if its flesh or chakra she needs to eat to evolve. Because if we learn the 'funnel power to SB/Sake' chakra configuration from the Triad, but alter it for Silja...
  3390. [2011-12-30 21:57:11] <Falconis> we would probably die so fast
  3391. [2011-12-30 21:57:20] <Dart666> we already had amen do a lot of thing like that
  3392. [2011-12-30 21:57:21] <Falconis> it's a Vampiric weapon
  3393. [2011-12-30 21:57:28] <Guile> well obviously we'd need to be able to 'respec' to tamp down the flow
  3394. [2011-12-30 21:57:47] <Falconis> it's not a matter of blocking how much you give out
  3395. [2011-12-30 21:58:10] <Falconis> I imagine she'll just suck it out if you make a connection, but that
  3396. [2011-12-30 21:58:14] <Falconis> 's just a gues
  3397. [2011-12-30 21:58:36] <Guile> but as you pointed out, we already have a connection
  3398. [2011-12-30 21:58:56] <Falconis> godd point
  3399. [2011-12-30 21:58:58] <Falconis> good*
  3400. [2011-12-30 21:59:33] <Dart666> opening our chakras, aspecting our chakras, defending our mind
  3401. [2011-12-30 22:01:43] <Falconis> I was just kind of afraid that feeding her rather than just having this passive connection would be bad
  3402. [2011-12-30 22:01:53] <Falconis> meh
  3403. [2011-12-30 22:02:12] <A_Greedy_Squid> She has been "meditating"
  3404. [2011-12-30 22:02:15] <A_Greedy_Squid> I wonder how...?
  3405. [2011-12-30 22:02:29] <BUTTZ> One of the upsides of feeding her is we can claim to be inside her
  3406. [2011-12-30 22:02:41] <Falconis> :I
  3407. [2011-12-30 22:02:44] <BUTTZ> Though trolling her is probably not a good idea
  3408. [2011-12-30 22:02:49] <A_Greedy_Squid> ಠ_ಠ not silja
  3409. [2011-12-30 22:03:09] * Falconis is unsure how to react to this statement, but feels negative about it in general
  3410. [2011-12-30 22:04:04] <A_Greedy_Squid> Yeah, let's not troll her...too hard. Us and Note-Writer and the only ones keeping her sane
  3411. [2011-12-30 22:04:19] <BUTTZ> She can talk to hummingbird now
  3412. [2011-12-30 22:04:48] <BUTTZ> I wonder if Sake or Shadowbro could leverage that same connection to talk to her too?
  3413. [2011-12-30 22:04:56] <Falconis> probably not the best conversationalist
  3414. [2011-12-30 22:05:13] <BUTTZ> Both bros know some chakra techniques, they should be able to right?
  3415. [2011-12-30 22:05:15] <Falconis> I wonder if Armas can break through wind like Bird did
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  3417. [2011-12-30 22:09:27] <Guile> I very much doubt it
  3418. [2011-12-30 22:09:46] <Guile> Bird's whole thing is piercing through things
  3419. [2011-12-30 22:10:12] <Waryobserver> UPDAT
  3420. [2011-12-30 22:10:16] <A_Greedy_Squid> We really need to get it some epic glasses
  3421. [2011-12-30 22:10:17] <A_Greedy_Squid> WHAT
  3422. [2011-12-30 22:10:38] <A_Greedy_Squid> YOU TRICKED ME YOU PIECE OF SHIT
  3423. [2011-12-30 22:10:41] <Bob> 2Fixing update
  3424. [2011-12-30 22:10:43] <Bob> 2it's back up
  3425. [2011-12-30 22:10:50] <A_Greedy_Squid> Ah.
  3426. [2011-12-30 22:10:51] <Falconis> ...yay
  3427. [2011-12-30 22:10:59] <Falconis> u need to chill out :I
  3428. [2011-12-30 22:17:34] |<-- A_Greedy_Squid has left irc.rizon.net (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
  3429. [2011-12-30 22:19:04] <Guile> anybody who's played Deus Ex - is the assassin build (sneaky-takedown type) viable? some games say you can play as any type then lock you into a boss battle you need heavy weapons to take down
  3430. [2011-12-30 22:19:04] <Waryobserver> >[WON'T TAKE NO HAGGLING TRAIT EVOLVES INTO: WON'T EVER TAKE NO, Level 4 Mercantile Trait] Happy is me.
  3431. [2011-12-30 22:19:23] <Bob> 2That's kind of the problem
  3432. [2011-12-30 22:19:33] <Bob> 2some of the bosses SUCK to face as a stealth only build
  3433. [2011-12-30 22:19:42] <Guile> I hate that
  3434. [2011-12-30 22:20:03] <Bob> 2Honestly, conventional sneaking, if used right, will solve 95% of sneaking scenarios-so you can put the points elsewhere
  3435. [2011-12-30 22:20:34] <Guile> but I should put at least some points into stand and fight stuff for those bosses?
  3436. [2011-12-30 22:22:07] <Bob> 2You don't have to do stand and fight focus-tazer based trickery fighting builds work VERY well for most bosses.
  3437. [2011-12-30 22:22:31] <Falconis> Never take no, never never never
  3438. [2011-12-30 22:24:08] <Guile> alright, I'll give it a go
  3439. [2011-12-30 22:25:07] <Guile> dlc- good to get?
  3440. [2011-12-30 22:26:06] -->| Sanity_Flake (cgiirc@4BF3E79B.E039B8F5.C318AC60.IP) has joined #golemquest
  3441. [2011-12-30 22:26:10] <Sanity_Flake> >I look at Rocco's goons again, all sporting sunglasses... at night
  3442. [2011-12-30 22:26:11] * Sanity_Flake snickers
  3443. [2011-12-30 22:26:23] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Hey, I do that all the time.
  3444. [2011-12-30 22:26:33] <Falconis> plan of attack?
  3445. [2011-12-30 22:26:34] <Sanity_Flake> WHY
  3446. [2011-12-30 22:26:35] <Falconis> Blow it up
  3447. [2011-12-30 22:26:37] <Bob> 2I don't even recall the dlc: take that as you will
  3448. [2011-12-30 22:26:44] <Sanity_Flake> dlc?
  3449. [2011-12-30 22:26:46] <Gunpowder_Symphony> For one thing, BECAUSE.
  3450. [2011-12-30 22:26:58] <Falconis> downloadable content
  3451. [2011-12-30 22:27:00] <Gunpowder_Symphony> For another, assholes who have regular headlights brighter than everyone else's high beams.
  3452. [2011-12-30 22:27:09] <Falconis> ^
  3453. [2011-12-30 22:27:16] <Guile> apparently it involves a pirate ship?
  3454. [2011-12-30 22:27:27] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Especially when they're in fucking trucks and laser you right in the goddamn face.
  3455. [2011-12-30 22:27:38] <Grail> I wouldn't bother.
  3456. [2011-12-30 22:27:40] <Falconis> Bob, is Silja here?
  3457. [2011-12-30 22:27:48] <Bob> 2It's like.... 2011 pop... made one song http://www.wimp.com/popmashup/
  3458. [2011-12-30 22:28:19] <Bob> 2Sija, Mateba (1) and Old Lonesome complement Iron Trick for you right now
  3459. [2011-12-30 22:28:28] <Falconis> yay
  3460. [2011-12-30 22:28:34] <Bob> 2Those sticky finger traits
  3461. [2011-12-30 22:28:40] <Bob> 2so handy in certain places
  3462. [2011-12-30 22:28:46] <Guile> that is really pretty catchy
  3463. [2011-12-30 22:28:48] <Bob> 2you just always grab what you can get away with carrying
  3464. [2011-12-30 22:28:50] <Falconis> indeed
  3465. [2011-12-30 22:28:57] <Grail> I played through the main game, somehow got the private ship dlc later.
  3466. [2011-12-30 22:29:01] <Grail> It was pretty bland
  3467. [2011-12-30 22:29:37] <Falconis> who is this guy?
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  3469. [2011-12-30 22:30:46] <Bob> 2Sam
  3470. [2011-12-30 22:30:47] <Falconis> hmm, Silja is pretty loud isn't she...dang. I don't suppose she can grow a silencer
  3471. [2011-12-30 22:30:49] <Falconis> heh
  3472. [2011-12-30 22:30:50] <Bob> 2Sam... Shewy
  3473. [2011-12-30 22:30:50] <Wutenheimer> bob, that pop mashup
  3474. [2011-12-30 22:30:52] <Wutenheimer> oh gods
  3475. [2011-12-30 22:30:56] <Wutenheimer> i hate this
  3476. [2011-12-30 22:31:10] <Wutenheimer> for being the truth
  3477. [2011-12-30 22:31:11] <Bob> 2Yet you're still listening, aren't you?
  3478. [2011-12-30 22:31:12] <Falconis> That is an impressive last name
  3479. [2011-12-30 22:31:17] <Wutenheimer> I AM FUCK YOU
  3480. [2011-12-30 22:31:26] <Bob> 2I have no idea if I spelled it right
  3481. [2011-12-30 22:31:41] <Sanity_Flake> Oho, finder's keepers...
  3482. [2011-12-30 22:31:57] <Falconis> Finder's Keepers is a great comic
  3483. [2011-12-30 22:32:08] <Grail> I wouldn't worry about the sound Silja makes.
  3484. [2011-12-30 22:32:21] <Grail> We're running into a warehouse with 18 burst fire weapons going off
  3485. [2011-12-30 22:32:28] <Falconis> I was thinking of initiating with her and taking out the gate
  3486. [2011-12-30 22:32:29] <Guile> its pretty enough, but I never got into it
  3487. [2011-12-30 22:32:32] <Grail> Whatever the Mafia is using
  3488. [2011-12-30 22:32:46] <Falconis> actually...
  3489. [2011-12-30 22:32:51] <Falconis> >Armas sneaks up
  3490. [2011-12-30 22:33:02] <Grail> And actually a silencer doesn't do as much as the movies would have you believe
  3491. [2011-12-30 22:33:08] <Grail> So it's going to be loud either way
  3492. [2011-12-30 22:33:10] <Falconis> >Hummingbird kills everyone stealthily
  3493. [2011-12-30 22:33:13] <Falconis> >open gate
  3494. [2011-12-30 22:33:26] <Grail> At least were gunfire is concerned
  3495. [2011-12-30 22:33:32] <Grail> where*
  3496. [2011-12-30 22:33:41] <Falconis> true, sadly so mouse fart noises
  3497. [2011-12-30 22:33:46] <Bob> 2Well, Iosef's on Gatmalite duty-and Vlad's shitting himself in glee that he has his shotgun AND the AA-12 right now. He hopes to complete this mission without using a single non-shotgun-fired round
  3498. [2011-12-30 22:34:07] <Bob> 2Zhenya, Matvey, Gloom and Ivan are on season pistol duty
  3499. [2011-12-30 22:34:13] <Falconis> awww yeaaaa
  3500. [2011-12-30 22:34:16] <Falconis> I call summer
  3501. [2011-12-30 22:34:22] <Falconis> because fuck fire
  3502. [2011-12-30 22:34:28] <Gunpowder_Symphony> BWAHAHAHAHAHA
  3503. [2011-12-30 22:35:05] <Grail> Matvey just wants everyone to not get themselves killed
  3504. [2011-12-30 22:35:06] <Falconis> and by I, I of course men Zhenya
  3505. [2011-12-30 22:35:10] <Gunpowder_Symphony> IS TIME TO CRUSH TINY NAZIS
  3506. [2011-12-30 22:35:13] <Falconis> mean*
  3507. [2011-12-30 22:36:05] <Falconis> >fifty feet
  3508. [2011-12-30 22:36:06] <Falconis> shit
  3509. [2011-12-30 22:36:10] <Wutenheimer> >what can be physically carried
  3510. [2011-12-30 22:36:13] <Falconis> Bird can't go that far away can he?
  3511. [2011-12-30 22:36:24] <Gunpowder_Symphony> CANCER BREAK
  3512. [2011-12-30 22:36:25] <Wutenheimer> >hillevi can carry the building while sake acts as balence
  3513. [2011-12-30 22:36:34] <Wutenheimer> wow dat spelling
  3514. [2011-12-30 22:36:36] <Guile> aw, Matvey has faith in us. I feel warm and fuzzy.
  3515. [2011-12-30 22:36:46] <Bob> 2What spelling?
  3516. [2011-12-30 22:37:16] <Guile> carry the building? like, the whole building?
  3517. [2011-12-30 22:37:44] <Grail> Hillevi juggles buildings
  3518. [2011-12-30 22:38:48] <Falconis> I doubt the mafia would ever work with us again
  3519. [2011-12-30 22:38:56] <Bob> 2Camella at an arcade http://www.wimp.com/keepsgoing/
  3520. [2011-12-30 22:39:18] <Falconis> plus Hillevi would probably own all of that now
  3521. [2011-12-30 22:39:30] <Grail> Who would win in a game of one on one
  3522. [2011-12-30 22:39:33] <Grail> Camella or Labombard
  3523. [2011-12-30 22:39:43] <Sanity_Flake> Holy shit.
  3524. [2011-12-30 22:40:58] <Falconis> Holy shit
  3525. [2011-12-30 22:42:02] * Gunpowder_Symphony returns.
  3526. [2011-12-30 22:42:27] <Guile> Armas takes winner
  3527. [2011-12-30 22:42:48] <Guile> Camella hits every 3-pointer, Armas dunks like he's got wings attached to his feet
  3528. [2011-12-30 22:43:29] <Guile> Lammy just gets into the box no matter what you try to do to stop him
  3529. [2011-12-30 22:43:58] <Falconis> Shadowbro wins
  3530. [2011-12-30 22:44:03] <Falconis> >turn off lights
  3531. [2011-12-30 22:44:06] <Falconis> >minute up
  3532. [2011-12-30 22:44:11] <Falconis> >1000 points
  3533. [2011-12-30 22:44:41] <Grail> So does the wall have magical protection?
  3534. [2011-12-30 22:45:02] <Grail> It sounds like we could have Shadowbro go in and remove all their long arms from the lockers
  3535. [2011-12-30 22:45:15] <Bob> 2You don't detect any magic about the wall or the guards
  3536. [2011-12-30 22:45:27] <Sanity_Flake> FUCK YEAH MUNDANITY
  3537. [2011-12-30 22:45:28] <Falconis> KILL THEM ALL
  3538. [2011-12-30 22:45:30] <Grail> And then teleport both us and Rocco in
  3539. [2011-12-30 22:45:46] <Sanity_Flake> No...wait!
  3540. [2011-12-30 22:45:46] <Grail> Granted someone would need to hold trick
  3541. [2011-12-30 22:45:54] <Sanity_Flake> Have SB mass kill everyone inside a shadow
  3542. [2011-12-30 22:45:57] <Falconis> oh wait sake is here
  3543. [2011-12-30 22:45:58] <Bob> 2Me: 60 enter battle: 13 die. Enemy: 98 enter battle, 97 die
  3544. [2011-12-30 22:46:00] <Falconis> HAHAHAHAHAH
  3545. [2011-12-30 22:46:02] <Guile> no magic on the wall or guards doesnt preclude sensor alarms or mundane security system
  3546. [2011-12-30 22:46:09] <Bob> 2FUCK YOU DISHONERABLE DAIMYO, RUN AWAY FROM YOUR DEFEAT!
  3547. [2011-12-30 22:46:24] <Gunpowder_Symphony> A thought occurs.
  3548. [2011-12-30 22:46:26] <Sanity_Flake> http://images.4chan.org/k/src/1325304966141.jpg
  3549. [2011-12-30 22:46:27] <Guile> silly daimyo. where you think you go?
  3550. [2011-12-30 22:46:33] <Sanity_Flake> SHAMEFUR DISPRAY
  3551. [2011-12-30 22:46:53] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Have Hillevi encase outgoing grenades with ice while they're in midair. Instant super-frags.
  3552. [2011-12-30 22:48:16] <Falconis> it's night right?
  3553. [2011-12-30 22:48:22] <Falconis> I keep thinking it's night
  3554. [2011-12-30 22:48:25] <Sanity_Flake> yip yip
  3555. [2011-12-30 22:48:38] <Sanity_Flake> Good ol' massacre
  3556. [2011-12-30 22:48:43] <Falconis> do they have the stereotypical generic floodlights?
  3557. [2011-12-30 22:48:58] <Gunpowder_Symphony> http://www.originalmemorabilia.co.uk/ShowDetails.asp?id=419
  3558. [2011-12-30 22:49:05] <Falconis> ...why did I put both of those in the same sentence
  3559. [2011-12-30 22:49:27] <Bob> 2They have sporting style floodlights
  3560. [2011-12-30 22:49:29] <Falconis> but yea, if it really is night, shaowbro can have a picnic
  3561. [2011-12-30 22:49:31] <Bob> 2massive double decker rows of them
  3562. [2011-12-30 22:49:32] <Falconis> awww
  3563. [2011-12-30 22:49:36] <Bob> 2it's QUITE well illuminated
  3564. [2011-12-30 22:49:47] <Grail> That's not fun
  3565. [2011-12-30 22:49:52] <Bob> 2It's not
  3566. [2011-12-30 22:49:52] <Falconis> their light bill must be horrendous
  3567. [2011-12-30 22:49:55] <Sanity_Flake> :( There goes SB's massacre plan
  3568. [2011-12-30 22:49:56] <Bob> 2It is
  3569. [2011-12-30 22:50:03] <Grail> Hillevi can probably blow the cameras and lights within a few seconds though
  3570. [2011-12-30 22:50:16] <Falconis> I'm counting on it
  3571. [2011-12-30 22:50:21] <Grail> Some smoke bomb support
  3572. [2011-12-30 22:51:28] <Grail> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisu
  3573. [2011-12-30 22:51:36] <Gunpowder_Symphony> I'll go one better on that smoke. Vlad's got CN gas grenade slugs for his KS-23.
  3574. [2011-12-30 22:51:38] <Grail> Need to stick that in Hummingbro's name if he ever gets one
  3575. [2011-12-30 22:51:53] <Sanity_Flake> kokko sisu?
  3576. [2011-12-30 22:52:30] <Guile> do you really anticipate giving us ANY say in what his name will be?
  3577. [2011-12-30 22:52:38] <Guile> him giving us*
  3578. [2011-12-30 22:52:42] <Bob> 2And since he already thinks of himself as a mentor... you could append sifu to that
  3579. [2011-12-30 22:52:46] <Bob> 2Kokko Sisu Sifu
  3580. [2011-12-30 22:52:53] <Guile> Sisu-sensei
  3581. [2011-12-30 22:52:59] <Sanity_Flake> And "Sifu" means...?
  3582. [2011-12-30 22:53:04] <Guile> master in chinese
  3583. [2011-12-30 22:53:09] <Bob> 2Sifu is another way to say 'master'
  3584. [2011-12-30 22:53:17] <Falconis> heck yea
  3585. [2011-12-30 22:53:18] <Sanity_Flake> ...oh. Right. Thought it was Finnish >.>
  3586. [2011-12-30 22:53:21] <Falconis> good name
  3587. [2011-12-30 22:53:32] <Wutenheimer> i read sifu and had a craving for cheese
  3588. [2011-12-30 22:53:34] <Wutenheimer> no idea why
  3589. [2011-12-30 23:00:35] <Guile> Im guessing the nazis are NOT dumb enough that we could actually bluff our way past the gate in our snazzy uniforms, given we have no way of calling ahead or any knowledge of passwords or the like?
  3590. [2011-12-30 23:00:45] <Wutenheimer> :|
  3591. [2011-12-30 23:01:04] <Wutenheimer> VEE HAS COME TO INSPECT ZEE VARES
  3592. [2011-12-30 23:01:30] <Sanity_Flake> Wait a sec...if the Russians are dressed up as Nazis...
  3593. [2011-12-30 23:01:37] <Sanity_Flake> What are WE wearing?
  3594. [2011-12-30 23:01:44] <Guile> on the other hand, affecting a terrible accent when we are obviously not Aryan would be hilarious enough I almost want to go for it
  3595. [2011-12-30 23:01:55] <Guile> our pickelhaub is especially fancy
  3596. [2011-12-30 23:02:07] <Bob> 2Armas is also wearing the uniform
  3597. [2011-12-30 23:02:13] <Bob> 2hell, so's Hillevi
  3598. [2011-12-30 23:02:16] <Grail> Is our spike golden?
  3599. [2011-12-30 23:02:17] <Bob> 2You were thorough
  3600. [2011-12-30 23:02:25] <Sanity_Flake> What of CAMELLA
  3601. [2011-12-30 23:02:27] <Grail> And overly engraved?
  3602. [2011-12-30 23:02:36] <Sanity_Flake> We have tons of medals
  3603. [2011-12-30 23:02:42] <Sanity_Flake> ...probably.
  3604. [2011-12-30 23:02:44] <Guile> hell, practically our entire force could pass as Aryan, except us
  3605. [2011-12-30 23:02:45] <Bob> 2your spike is not golden. There is, however, a gold embossing of a smirking face on your helmet's brim
  3606. [2011-12-30 23:02:46] <Falconis> Super Aryan
  3607. [2011-12-30 23:03:04] <Grail> Hillevi could definitely pass
  3608. [2011-12-30 23:03:15] <Sanity_Flake> yep. http://www.meh.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/meh.ro4915.jpg
  3609. [2011-12-30 23:03:15] <Grail> Pass as a giant, giant Aryan.
  3610. [2011-12-30 23:03:21] <Guile> "I get zee great tan at Germany's many fine beaches! Why do you ask?"
  3611. [2011-12-30 23:03:25] <Falconis> if she could stop herself from stuttering
  3612. [2011-12-30 23:03:53] <Falconis> damn straight, legend of Koizumi
  3613. [2011-12-30 23:03:59] <Grail> If only Armas had the level of fleshcrafting required to look like other people
  3614. [2011-12-30 23:04:02] <Bob> 2Armas even has an eye patch
  3615. [2011-12-30 23:04:04] <Guile> Benito: Finger, Confessor, some other ranking mafia boss?
  3616. [2011-12-30 23:04:04] <Falconis> started playing Mahjong recently
  3617. [2011-12-30 23:04:08] <Bob> 2you guys totally make snazzier nazis
  3618. [2011-12-30 23:04:15] <Grail> Mussolini
  3619. [2011-12-30 23:04:17] <Sanity_Flake> Claim she's the result of decades of human-experimentation to achieve the perfect 'super-soldier'
  3620. [2011-12-30 23:04:19] <Grail> I'm guessing
  3621. [2011-12-30 23:04:24] <Falconis> indeed
  3622. [2011-12-30 23:04:30] <Falconis> that sounds awesome
  3623. [2011-12-30 23:04:35] <Grail> Somehow survived and has a place within upper Mafia management.
  3624. [2011-12-30 23:04:35] <Guile> "We are ze true Nazis!" Challenge them to whatever the traditional sport of Nazis is
  3625. [2011-12-30 23:04:56] <Bob> 2Mussolini did not survive
  3626. [2011-12-30 23:04:56] <Guile> oh, wow, yeah, Benito WAS his first name
  3627. [2011-12-30 23:05:00] <Bob> 2the Mafia saw to that
  3628. [2011-12-30 23:05:03] <Bob> 2different Benito
  3629. [2011-12-30 23:05:09] <Sanity_Flake> Oh, Mafia. Oh you.
  3630. [2011-12-30 23:05:18] <Sanity_Flake> What's Camella wearing, Bob?
  3631. [2011-12-30 23:05:24] <Falconis> same thing
  3632. [2011-12-30 23:05:29] <Bob> 2Camella-funny thing
  3633. [2011-12-30 23:05:32] <Bob> 2forgot to mention this parrt
  3634. [2011-12-30 23:05:39] <Bob> 2she was resisting the Heel uniform idea
  3635. [2011-12-30 23:05:45] <Guile> http://www.librarising.com/astrology/celebs/images2/EF/evabraun.jpg
  3636. [2011-12-30 23:05:46] <Guile> ?
  3637. [2011-12-30 23:05:48] * Sanity_Flake snickers
  3638. [2011-12-30 23:05:53] <Bob> 2so I had Armas say 'well, I have another costume option but it's kind of boring'
  3639. [2011-12-30 23:05:54] <Bob> 2and...
  3640. [2011-12-30 23:05:57] <Falconis> lol
  3641. [2011-12-30 23:05:58] <Bob> 2she FELL for it
  3642. [2011-12-30 23:05:58] <Bob> 2so...
  3643. [2011-12-30 23:06:02] <Bob> 2SS uniform forher
  3644. [2011-12-30 23:06:08] <Gunpowder_Symphony> ILSA
  3645. [2011-12-30 23:06:12] <Sanity_Flake> Oh god...
  3646. [2011-12-30 23:06:22] <Bob> 2I should have mentioned that in the update.
  3647. [2011-12-30 23:06:23] <Bob> 2Hm
  3648. [2011-12-30 23:06:29] <Guile> its like she isnt aware of who we are, like the second option isnt ALWAYS worse
  3649. [2011-12-30 23:07:21] <Grail> You know
  3650. [2011-12-30 23:07:30] <Grail> I bet Amen was responsible for the original Nazi uniforms
  3651. [2011-12-30 23:07:47] <Grail> Too stylish for mortal tailors to conceive of.
  3652. [2011-12-30 23:07:54] <Waryobserver> They certainly are snazzy enough.
  3653. [2011-12-30 23:07:56] <Guile> *google* ... that is NOT what female SS-Waffen uniforms looked like. I think http://dada8909.tripod.com/cccssrikka/rikka06.jpg
  3654. [2011-12-30 23:08:09] <Falconis> :I
  3655. [2011-12-30 23:08:20] <Gunpowder_Symphony> BWAHAHAH
  3656. [2011-12-30 23:08:21] <Grail> Can't see the image
  3657. [2011-12-30 23:08:22] * Conil facepalms
  3658. [2011-12-30 23:08:26] <Falconis> yea first thing I saw when I googled 'SS uniforms'
  3659. [2011-12-30 23:08:34] <Sanity_Flake> http://cdn102.iofferphoto.com/img3/item/473/781/640/wwii-nazi-german-ss-women-m32-uniform-set-70fe.jpg
  3660. [2011-12-30 23:08:40] <Guile> or you, sorry http://merit-intl.com/month/5-5-09/ttl/ttl1001/ttl1001p1.jpg
  3661. [2011-12-30 23:08:54] <Falconis> :I
  3662. [2011-12-30 23:08:57] <Waryobserver> >Camella
  3663. [2011-12-30 23:09:00] <Grail> Kevlar miniskirt
  3664. [2011-12-30 23:09:01] <Waryobserver> > In that
  3665. [2011-12-30 23:09:04] <Falconis> that better be the one we gave her
  3666. [2011-12-30 23:09:05] <Grail> The perfect defense
  3667. [2011-12-30 23:09:23] <Falconis> just have her walk up
  3668. [2011-12-30 23:09:23] <Sanity_Flake> I'd slightly prefer Hillevi in that than Camella
  3669. [2011-12-30 23:09:27] <Falconis> instant win
  3670. [2011-12-30 23:09:54] <Grail> I wish we had a flame manipulator too
  3671. [2011-12-30 23:10:07] <Falconis> but then Zhenya would shit bricks
  3672. [2011-12-30 23:10:10] <Grail> Then we could do some sort of oven-based pun/ironic death.
  3673. [2011-12-30 23:10:14] <Guile> oh come on, you arent even TRYING anymore! http://www.werewolves.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/werewolf-woman-whip.jpg
  3674. [2011-12-30 23:10:21] <Wutenheimer> if we do end up talking to the germans pretending to be a nazi
  3675. [2011-12-30 23:10:21] <Falconis> lol
  3676. [2011-12-30 23:10:27] <Sanity_Flake> Ah, that movie
  3677. [2011-12-30 23:11:06] <Wutenheimer> we have to play it like herr otto flick from allo allo
  3678. [2011-12-30 23:11:32] <Falconis> so if my plan only covers one segment I don't need to roll?
  3679. [2011-12-30 23:11:34] <Falconis> cool
  3680. [2011-12-30 23:11:52] <Wutenheimer> and of course none of you will have seen allo allo :\
  3681. [2011-12-30 23:12:00] <Sanity_Flake> .g allo allo
  3682. [2011-12-30 23:12:01] <Classhole> Sanity_Flake: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/'Allo_'Allo! -- &#39;Allo &#39;Allo! - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: "'Allo 'Allo! is a British sitcom broadcast on BBC One from 1982 to 1992 comprising eighty-five..."
  3683. [2011-12-30 23:12:05] <Grail> I think you need to
  3684. [2011-12-30 23:12:06] <Wutenheimer> you should remedy that
  3685. [2011-12-30 23:12:20] <Wutenheimer> its no blackadder but it's good
  3686. [2011-12-30 23:12:26] <Grail> But for each additional segment you add you need an additional roll
  3687. [2011-12-30 23:12:49] <Guile> I think you need to roll once per one segment, yes
  3688. [2011-12-30 23:13:04] <Falconis> meh, figured
  3689. [2011-12-30 23:13:39] <Guile> So, nice little stockpile on the outskirts of the city... I wonder how they move stuff into the city proper
  3690. [2011-12-30 23:13:49] <Wutenheimer> .dice 1d100 put one foot in front of the other
  3691. [2011-12-30 23:13:49] <Classhole> Wutenheimer: put one foot in front of the other: Average(43.00) Total(43) Rolled(1d100=43)
  3692. [2011-12-30 23:13:55] <Wutenheimer> >we trip
  3693. [2011-12-30 23:13:58] <Wutenheimer> fucking lovely
  3694. [2011-12-30 23:14:43] <Bob> 2.dice 1d11, how hard, on a 1 to 10 scale with ten being the hardest, should I DM this mission, Classhole?
  3695. [2011-12-30 23:14:49] <Bob> 2.dice 1d11 how hard, on a 1 to 10 scale with ten being the hardest, should I DM this mission, Classhole?
  3696. [2011-12-30 23:14:56] <Bob> oh right, colors
  3697. [2011-12-30 23:14:57] <Bob> .dice 1d11 how hard, on a 1 to 10 scale with ten being the hardest, should I DM this mission, Classhole?
  3698. [2011-12-30 23:14:58] <Classhole> Bob: how hard, on a 1 to 10 scale with ten being the hardest, should I DM this mission, Classhole?: Average(1.00) Total(1) Rolled(1d11=1)
  3699. [2011-12-30 23:14:58] <Falconis> lol
  3700. [2011-12-30 23:15:02] <Falconis> yessssss
  3701. [2011-12-30 23:15:03] <Bob> Huh
  3702. [2011-12-30 23:15:04] <Wutenheimer> :D
  3703. [2011-12-30 23:15:04] <Sanity_Flake> HA
  3704. [2011-12-30 23:15:05] <Bob> well then
  3705. [2011-12-30 23:15:07] <Sanity_Flake> HAHAHA
  3706. [2011-12-30 23:15:07] <Gunpowder_Symphony> BWAHAHAHAH
  3707. [2011-12-30 23:15:08] <Falconis> I love you class
  3708. [2011-12-30 23:15:14] <Bob> Have at it then I guess
  3709. [2011-12-30 23:15:15] <Sanity_Flake> Nice one Classhole!
  3710. [2011-12-30 23:15:23] <Wutenheimer> fuck yes classhole
  3711. [2011-12-30 23:15:25] <Wutenheimer> fuck yes
  3712. [2011-12-30 23:15:30] <Waryobserver> >1d11
  3713. [2011-12-30 23:15:34] <Grail> I know where the Murphy field went now
  3714. [2011-12-30 23:15:37] <Sanity_Flake> .dice 1d100 My Russian overexerts himself by carrying so much he has muscle pain for the next 3 days with a massive grin
  3715. [2011-12-30 23:15:37] <Classhole> Sanity_Flake: My Russian overexerts himself by carrying so much he has muscle pain for the next 3 days with a massive grin: Average(59.00) Total(59) Rolled(1d100=59)
  3716. [2011-12-30 23:15:38] <Wutenheimer> Captain-Lightning i owe you 1 beer
  3717. [2011-12-30 23:15:39] <Waryobserver> What would 11 be
  3718. [2011-12-30 23:15:55] <Guile> Skorzeny drops by for inspection early
  3719. [2011-12-30 23:16:02] <Sanity_Flake> SHHH SHHH!
  3720. [2011-12-30 23:16:03] <Grail> He brings the tank
  3721. [2011-12-30 23:16:09] * Sanity_Flake muffles Guile and Grail
  3722. [2011-12-30 23:16:13] <Guile> sees us standing on a pile of corpses, looting things
  3723. [2011-12-30 23:16:22] <Falconis> .dice 1d100 odds of beating GFH
  3724. [2011-12-30 23:16:26] <Wutenheimer> a wild gestapo appears
  3725. [2011-12-30 23:16:35] * Conil snrks
  3726. [2011-12-30 23:16:49] <Sanity_Flake> Go Hillevi!
  3727. [2011-12-30 23:16:51] <Guile> "... these fakes attempted to gain access to the base, mein... sir."
  3728. [2011-12-30 23:16:53] <Shifter20> .dice 1d2 Grisha decides to take any chance there is to throw grenades at people.
  3729. [2011-12-30 23:16:54] <Classhole> Shifter20: Grisha decides to take any chance there is to throw grenades at people.: Average(1.00) Total(1) Rolled(1d2=1)
  3730. [2011-12-30 23:16:59] <Falconis> .dice 1d100 win at gfh
  3731. [2011-12-30 23:17:00] <Classhole> Falconis: win at gfh: Average(43.00) Total(43) Rolled(1d100=43)
  3732. [2011-12-30 23:17:01] <Guile> "But don't worry, we stopped them."
  3733. [2011-12-30 23:17:03] <Falconis> :I
  3734. [2011-12-30 23:17:09] <Grail> What's with all the 40s
  3735. [2011-12-30 23:17:15] <Falconis> I know right
  3736. [2011-12-30 23:17:19] <Grail> Specifically 43
  3737. [2011-12-30 23:17:33] <Sanity_Flake> Let's correct that...I have luck with dice
  3738. [2011-12-30 23:17:39] <Sanity_Flake> .dice 1d100 WIN at GfH
  3739. [2011-12-30 23:17:39] <Classhole> Sanity_Flake: WIN at GfH: Average(57.00) Total(57) Rolled(1d100=57)
  3740. [2011-12-30 23:17:42] <Wutenheimer> lold
  3741. [2011-12-30 23:17:44] <Falconis> it's 1 away from the answer to life, the universe and everything
  3742. [2011-12-30 23:17:58] <Wutenheimer> .dice 1d100 fuck up everyone else at winning gfh
  3743. [2011-12-30 23:17:58] <Classhole> Wutenheimer: fuck up everyone else at winning gfh: Average(6.00) Total(6) Rolled(1d100=6)
  3744. [2011-12-30 23:18:01] <Wutenheimer> ;-;
  3745. [2011-12-30 23:18:03] <Sanity_Flake> ......
  3746. [2011-12-30 23:18:05] <Gunpowder_Symphony> BWAHAHAHAH
  3747. [2011-12-30 23:18:06] <Falconis> .................
  3748. [2011-12-30 23:18:33] <Conil> XD
  3749. [2011-12-30 23:18:37] <Falconis> .dice 1d100 chances of a metal god appearing
  3750. [2011-12-30 23:18:38] <Classhole> Falconis: chances of a metal god appearing: Average(36.00) Total(36) Rolled(1d100=36)
  3751. [2011-12-30 23:18:41] <Falconis> dammit
  3752. [2011-12-30 23:18:41] <Guile> rolled a little high there, wut
  3753. [2011-12-30 23:18:42] <Gunpowder_Symphony> .dice 1d100 HEY MURPHY GUESS WHO
  3754. [2011-12-30 23:18:43] <Classhole> Gunpowder_Symphony: HEY MURPHY GUESS WHO: Average(39.00) Total(39) Rolled(1d100=39)
  3755. [2011-12-30 23:18:59] <Wutenheimer> .dice 1d100 should i drink more
  3756. [2011-12-30 23:18:59] <Classhole> Wutenheimer: should i drink more: Average(76.00) Total(76) Rolled(1d100=76)
  3757. [2011-12-30 23:19:06] <Wutenheimer> that would be a yes...
  3758. [2011-12-30 23:19:08] <Falconis> class is trying to kill u
  3759. [2011-12-30 23:19:09] <Gunpowder_Symphony> You don't need dice to answer that, dude.
  3760. [2011-12-30 23:19:10] <Grail> .dice 1d100 Matvey acquires a fancy magical gun during the raid
  3761. [2011-12-30 23:19:12] <Classhole> Grail: Matvey acquires a fancy magical gun during the raid: Average(71.00) Total(71) Rolled(1d100=71)
  3762. [2011-12-30 23:19:15] <Bob> .dice 1d100 Hey classhole, roll high if you were joking about going easy on them
  3763. [2011-12-30 23:19:15] <Classhole> Bob: Hey classhole, roll high if you were joking about going easy on them: Average(57.00) Total(57) Rolled(1d100=57)
  3764. [2011-12-30 23:19:21] <Wutenheimer> 76 more beers to go
  3765. [2011-12-30 23:19:22] <Falconis> lol
  3766. [2011-12-30 23:19:22] <Bob> Hm... noncommital
  3767. [2011-12-30 23:19:25] <Bob> Let's try again
  3768. [2011-12-30 23:19:29] <Falconis> nooo
  3769. [2011-12-30 23:19:39] <Bob> .dice 1d100 Hey classhole, roll high if you were joking about going easy on them? And be a bit more... pronounced about your opinion, please.
  3770. [2011-12-30 23:19:40] <Classhole> Bob: Hey classhole, roll high if you were joking about going easy on them? And be a bit more... pronounced about your opinion, please.: Average(40.00) Total(40) Rolled(1d100=40)
  3771. [2011-12-30 23:19:49] * Sanity_Flake snickers
  3772. [2011-12-30 23:19:50] <Wutenheimer> roughly the same
  3773. [2011-12-30 23:19:50] <Grail> He's rolling progressively lower
  3774. [2011-12-30 23:19:51] <Falconis> aww yeaaaa
  3775. [2011-12-30 23:19:56] <Captain-Lightning> .roll a winner
  3776. [2011-12-30 23:19:56] <Wutenheimer> lolgrail
  3777. [2011-12-30 23:19:57] <Classhole> Captain-Lightning: INVALID INPUT MOTHERFUCKER
  3778. [2011-12-30 23:20:01] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Hrm...
  3779. [2011-12-30 23:20:02] <Grail> I think Classhole likes us
  3780. [2011-12-30 23:20:02] <Captain-Lightning> :(
  3781. [2011-12-30 23:20:05] <Wutenheimer> way to jynx it
  3782. [2011-12-30 23:20:06] <Falconis> lol
  3783. [2011-12-30 23:20:15] <Bob> .dice 1d100 Classhole, buddy, I know it's fun rolling close to the average but can you give me an extreme here? Low for shit on their day, high for be nice to them
  3784. [2011-12-30 23:20:16] <Classhole> Bob: Classhole, buddy, I know it's fun rolling close to the average but can you give me an extreme here? Low for shit on their day, high for be nice to them: Average(57.00) Total(57) Rolled(1d100=57)
  3785. [2011-12-30 23:20:18] <Falconis> we have no relation to this man classhole
  3786. [2011-12-30 23:20:23] <Wutenheimer> HAHAHAHA YES
  3787. [2011-12-30 23:20:24] <Bob> ....Fuck you classhole
  3788. [2011-12-30 23:20:26] <Captain-Lightning> haha
  3789. [2011-12-30 23:20:26] <Falconis> YEA!
  3790. [2011-12-30 23:20:30] <Sanity_Flake> .dice 1d100 How GREEDY my Russian gets
  3791. [2011-12-30 23:20:30] <Classhole> Sanity_Flake: How GREEDY my Russian gets: Average(31.00) Total(31) Rolled(1d100=31)
  3792. [2011-12-30 23:20:38] <Grail> Not very it seems
  3793. [2011-12-30 23:20:38] <Wutenheimer> captain, i owe you 2 beers
  3794. [2011-12-30 23:20:42] <Gunpowder_Symphony> .dice 1d100 Vlad serial-crushes a bunch of Nazis because he is a huge friggin' guy.
  3795. [2011-12-30 23:20:43] <Classhole> Gunpowder_Symphony: Vlad serial-crushes a bunch of Nazis because he is a huge friggin' guy.: Average(94.00) Total(94) Rolled(1d100=94)
  3796. [2011-12-30 23:20:43] <Sanity_Flake> Sorry Greed, you're not my friend today.
  3797. [2011-12-30 23:20:46] <Gunpowder_Symphony> BWAHAHAHAHAHA
  3798. [2011-12-30 23:20:51] <Falconis> .dice 1d100 does Zhenya find a nice new magic pistol?
  3799. [2011-12-30 23:20:52] <Classhole> Falconis: does Zhenya find a nice new magic pistol?: Average(12.00) Total(12) Rolled(1d100=12)
  3800. [2011-12-30 23:20:55] <Falconis> NOOOOOOOOOOO
  3801. [2011-12-30 23:21:05] <Grail> Matvey gets the magical pistol
  3802. [2011-12-30 23:21:09] <Grail> And will not let you have it
  3803. [2011-12-30 23:21:11] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Well, there's gonna be a bunch of flattened Germans, it seems.
  3804. [2011-12-30 23:21:13] <Falconis> but but
  3805. [2011-12-30 23:21:19] <Falconis> I'm the pistol expert :I
  3806. [2011-12-30 23:21:21] <Sanity_Flake> .dice 1d100 Rolling for chances of Classhole rolling high for next roll
  3807. [2011-12-30 23:21:22] <Classhole> Sanity_Flake: Rolling for chances of Classhole rolling high for next roll: Average(1.00) Total(1) Rolled(1d100=1)
  3808. [2011-12-30 23:21:22] <Bob> 1d100 last time I'll ask Classhole-extreme low for shit on them, extreme high for let them be merry.
  3809. [2011-12-30 23:21:27] <Sanity_Flake> WAT
  3810. [2011-12-30 23:21:27] <Falconis> holy
  3811. [2011-12-30 23:21:28] <Gunpowder_Symphony> BWAHAHAHAHA
  3812. [2011-12-30 23:21:29] <Bob> .dice 1d100 last time I'll ask Classhole-extreme low for shit on them, extreme high for let them be merry.
  3813. [2011-12-30 23:21:30] <Falconis> a 1
  3814. [2011-12-30 23:21:30] <Classhole> Bob: last time I'll ask Classhole-extreme low for shit on them, extreme high for let them be merry.: Average(11.00) Total(11) Rolled(1d100=11)
  3815. [2011-12-30 23:21:31] <Wutenheimer> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHLA
  3816. [2011-12-30 23:21:33] <Falconis> a flippin 1
  3817. [2011-12-30 23:21:37] <Bob> YES
  3818. [2011-12-30 23:21:41] <Grail> What?
  3819. [2011-12-30 23:21:42] <Wutenheimer> fuck yes
  3820. [2011-12-30 23:21:45] <Wutenheimer> fucking lold
  3821. [2011-12-30 23:21:46] <Falconis> YES!
  3822. [2011-12-30 23:21:49] <Grail> How do you change the rolling scale around like that?
  3823. [2011-12-30 23:21:51] <Falconis> CLASS U ARE THE MAN
  3824. [2011-12-30 23:21:55] <Bob> Sanity_Flake, thanks for the assist
  3825. [2011-12-30 23:22:09] <Sanity_Flake> Anytime, Bob. Anytime.
  3826. [2011-12-30 23:22:15] <Bob> So anyway...
  3827. [2011-12-30 23:22:20] <Bob> Yeah, fun stuff in that warehouse
  3828. [2011-12-30 23:22:29] <Falconis> a tank maybe?
  3829. [2011-12-30 23:22:32] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Dibs on the panzer.
  3830. [2011-12-30 23:22:39] <Sanity_Flake> Dibs on EVERYTHING
  3831. [2011-12-30 23:22:42] <Grail> But Gun
  3832. [2011-12-30 23:22:43] <Sanity_Flake> Except the panzer.
  3833. [2011-12-30 23:22:46] <Grail> Vlad can't drive
  3834. [2011-12-30 23:22:46] <Falconis> dibs on the flak cannon
  3835. [2011-12-30 23:22:47] <Grail> At all
  3836. [2011-12-30 23:22:53] <Gunpowder_Symphony> HE CAN MAN THE GUN
  3837. [2011-12-30 23:22:59] <Sanity_Flake> Dibs on the Howitzer
  3838. [2011-12-30 23:23:01] <Gunpowder_Symphony> THAT DOES NOT TAKE DRIVING
  3839. [2011-12-30 23:23:17] <Gunpowder_Symphony> ...Although...Vlad in a runaway tank would be hilarious.
  3840. [2011-12-30 23:23:30] <Falconis> learn from GTA
  3841. [2011-12-30 23:23:33] <Falconis> shoot to stop
  3842. [2011-12-30 23:23:47] <Guile> so, what do you guys think about splitting into two groups? One with us (Armas, Rocco, Gloom, whoever the mafia has thats good on stealth) gets past the wall, then Hillevi and Camella hit the front like the fist of an angry god? By the time they react to the frontal assault, we'll already be up their ass
  3843. [2011-12-30 23:23:53] <Shifter20> Yes, he'ld end up on top of a building with a thrown tread.
  3844. [2011-12-30 23:23:55] <Gunpowder_Symphony> CANNOT STOPPING STUPID MACHINE, PLEASE TO CLEAR WAY OR BECOME CRUSH WAFFLE
  3845. [2011-12-30 23:24:05] <Grail> That was what I was going to propose
  3846. [2011-12-30 23:24:09] * Falconis snickers
  3847. [2011-12-30 23:24:10] <Sanity_Flake> >Crush Waffle
  3848. [2011-12-30 23:24:12] <Sanity_Flake> FUCKING LOST IT
  3849. [2011-12-30 23:24:25] <Falconis> in any case, im out guys
  3850. [2011-12-30 23:24:28] <Grail> Mostly because if we go Falcon's route and full frontal assault them we'll be left covering a 100 or so feet where they have better positioning
  3851. [2011-12-30 23:24:31] <Guile> Im surprised Rocco was okay with us having scavenging rights
  3852. [2011-12-30 23:24:33] <Sanity_Flake> Same here, Falconis...
  3853. [2011-12-30 23:24:42] <Falconis> I wanted to add something to my post, but I can't delete cause of roll
  3854. [2011-12-30 23:24:46] <Falconis> meh
  3855. [2011-12-30 23:24:46] <Sanity_Flake> Maybe we could sleep together?
  3856. [2011-12-30 23:24:47] <Falconis> PEACE
  3857. [2011-12-30 23:24:50] <Falconis> ....
  3858. [2011-12-30 23:24:53] |<-- Falconis has left irc.rizon.net (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 8.0/20111104165243])
  3859. [2011-12-30 23:25:47] <Guile> this assumes we CAN stealth past the wall cameras/guards. I assume nazis know how to put together a fortification with new or no weak points of ingress
  3860. [2011-12-30 23:27:05] <Grail> There's a difference between knowing how and having the full resources to implement such measures
  3861. [2011-12-30 23:27:15] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Well, there's always the option of MAKING an entryway...
  3862. [2011-12-30 23:27:20] <Guile> and of course, there is such a thing as human error
  3863. [2011-12-30 23:28:12] <Grail> Gianni being able to cover healing makes me think he's partially external in his flesh manipulation
  3864. [2011-12-30 23:28:35] <Guile> seems logical
  3865. [2011-12-30 23:28:38] <Bob> You know what would make for an excellent entrance? Shoot the main doors with the black hole while Hillevi freezes the far wall and makes it shatter
  3866. [2011-12-30 23:29:02] <Bob> All it'd take is proper positioning-and actually knowing how to employ the grand tricks of IT
  3867. [2011-12-30 23:29:27] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Dpm
  3868. [2011-12-30 23:29:29] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Err
  3869. [2011-12-30 23:29:36] <Guile> which... we kinda don't, since using the grand trick against inanimate objects might require a different application
  3870. [2011-12-30 23:29:36] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Don't just freeze the wall and crumble it.
  3871. [2011-12-30 23:29:41] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Put demo charges on it first.
  3872. [2011-12-30 23:29:47] <Grail> Huh does our shadow pinning trick work on inanimate objects?
  3873. [2011-12-30 23:29:49] <Guile> ice shards for everyone
  3874. [2011-12-30 23:29:50] <Gunpowder_Symphony> TURN THE WHOLE FUCKING WALL INTO A CLAYMORE
  3875. [2011-12-30 23:29:56] <Grail> We could shoot the shadow of a door and instantly barricade it
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  3877. [2011-12-30 23:29:58] <Bob> http://notalwaysright.com/lets-hope-this-apple-fell-far-from-the-tree/15485
  3878. [2011-12-30 23:30:25] <Bob> that is true grail
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  3880. [2011-12-30 23:30:45] <Grail> This does puzzle the fuck out of me though
  3881. [2011-12-30 23:30:47] <Guile> shoot the shadow of complex machinery and it all stops working? or just one cog?
  3882. [2011-12-30 23:30:52] <Grail> How does one get an illusion to work on a door?
  3883. [2011-12-30 23:31:09] <Guile> when rabbit plays a trick, reality plays along
  3884. [2011-12-30 23:31:20] <Grail> Good enough answer I guess
  3885. [2011-12-30 23:31:44] * Arkeus sorta wake up
  3886. [2011-12-30 23:31:52] <Arkeus> logs to read, again. And update :3
  3887. [2011-12-30 23:32:23] <Guile> and can we teleport people safely through the Dark besides us? albeit at the cost of them seeing something truly horrifyingly not-right?
  3888. [2011-12-30 23:32:42] <Grail> Does closing your eyes help or make it worse?
  3889. [2011-12-30 23:32:59] <Guile> heh - we'll have our first volunteer test that
  3890. [2011-12-30 23:33:07] <Guile> just make sure it's not Iosef
  3891. [2011-12-30 23:33:16] <Guile> Sorry bro, that fear of the dark you have? TOTALLY LOGICAL.
  3892. [2011-12-30 23:33:30] <Grail> Vlad?
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  3894. [2011-12-30 23:33:38] <Grail> You up for seeing terrible, terrible things?
  3895. [2011-12-30 23:33:55] <Grail> That was a great time for you to come in TMI.
  3896. [2011-12-30 23:33:57] =-= TMIoverloadaway is now known as TMIoverload
  3897. [2011-12-30 23:34:36] <TMIoverload> Yeah, stomach not killing me. Prick friend and I got food poisoning at the same time, him from his mom, me from my new tenant, but the fucker recovered a lot quicker then me
  3898. [2011-12-30 23:34:45] <Arkeus> ou will get all eighteen on hand-and Camella-all with superior outfitting to what you've yet seen <= <<<<<<________________________<<<<<<<
  3899. [2011-12-30 23:34:47] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Hahaha
  3900. [2011-12-30 23:34:50] <Bob> Always fun being the slow one to get better.
  3901. [2011-12-30 23:34:57] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Oh geez, that sucks man
  3902. [2011-12-30 23:35:01] <TMIoverload> Also, people I don't know are no longer allowed to cook my christmas dinner
  3903. [2011-12-30 23:35:08] <Guile> so, if the teleport works... SB heads to the halfway point between trees and wall (25ft). Teleports people from one end of his zone to the other
  3904. [2011-12-30 23:36:13] <TMIoverload> So I take it current plan is SB teleporting people into position? ANy using Sake to wind manipulate through shadows to take out lights and guards first?
  3905. [2011-12-30 23:36:40] <Grail> We were going to either freeze them or in Falcon's plan shoot them, I'd favor the freezing or wind over shooting myself.
  3906. [2011-12-30 23:36:52] <Guile> or SB takes out a particular guard but holds him up so he looks normal, then we climb up that section of the wall
  3907. [2011-12-30 23:37:04] <TMIoverload> Also, i might recommend just flat out porting Camella with backup into the warehouse
  3908. [2011-12-30 23:37:19] <Guile> he doesnt have that range. 30m radius
  3909. [2011-12-30 23:37:25] <Grail> Better to have her lead the main assault I'd think, with Hillevi.
  3910. [2011-12-30 23:37:29] <Guile> 50m from trees to wall, 100m from wall to warehouse
  3911. [2011-12-30 23:37:48] <Bob> fifty FEET from trees to wall, 100m from wall to warehouse
  3912. [2011-12-30 23:37:49] <TMIoverload> I meant as we breach.
  3913. [2011-12-30 23:37:51] <Bob> difference
  3914. [2011-12-30 23:37:52] <Guile> ah
  3915. [2011-12-30 23:38:05] <Guile> the snag is still the killing ground between wall and warehouse
  3916. [2011-12-30 23:38:20] <TMIoverload> Once the walls are bypassed make an immediate assault on the warehouse before they're alerted
  3917. [2011-12-30 23:38:47] <Guile> if their security is any use at all, theyll know theyve been breached as soon as the guard post is hit
  3918. [2011-12-30 23:38:58] <Arkeus> [FYI, thanks to player interaction, Camella was duped into not taking the default uniform everyone else (Armas included) wore to this-and got Armas' 'backup' costume. That being an SS uniform. Just so you know.] <= ahahahahha
  3919. [2011-12-30 23:39:08] <TMIoverload> Also, why are we assaulting from the gate rather then some other section?
  3920. [2011-12-30 23:39:32] <Guile> a gate's easier to get through than a wall, but considering we have Hillevi, we can make our own wall
  3921. [2011-12-30 23:39:41] <Guile> er, gate*
  3922. [2011-12-30 23:39:49] <TMIoverload> Or stairs over the wall, or teleport past
  3923. [2011-12-30 23:39:50] <Grail> We can make our wall too
  3924. [2011-12-30 23:40:01] <Guile> that too. so very useful, that girl
  3925. [2011-12-30 23:40:25] <Grail> I don't know if we'll be able to teleport everyone over
  3926. [2011-12-30 23:40:29] <TMIoverload> Hell, stairs up and floor so we can use the top of the wall as cover
  3927. [2011-12-30 23:40:34] <Grail> Without burning out SB for the whole fight
  3928. [2011-12-30 23:40:46] <Grail> Or scarring everyone mentally
  3929. [2011-12-30 23:40:52] <Grail> But yeah, ice stairs, Sake float over.
  3930. [2011-12-30 23:41:04] <Guile> are any russians besides gloom particularly sneaky? I remember 3 went into BB's tower, but one was Iosef
  3931. [2011-12-30 23:41:12] <Guile> which would not handle a trip through the Dark well at all
  3932. [2011-12-30 23:41:23] <Grail> I believe it was Gloom and the explosives girl
  3933. [2011-12-30 23:41:27] <Grail> But not because she was sneaky
  3934. [2011-12-30 23:41:35] <Guile> just ballsy?
  3935. [2011-12-30 23:41:38] <Grail> She just needed to stop everyone getting blown up
  3936. [2011-12-30 23:42:05] <TMIoverload> I don't think any are particular sneaky, but Dmitrii likes to fight on the otherside of walls in buildings, so I'd guess he's not totally incompetent at keeping quiet
  3937. [2011-12-30 23:45:01] <TMIoverload> ALso, i think posting Ivan on ice stairs on the wall with someone(s) keeping him safe might be a good idea while he snipes with the AVT.
  3938. [2011-12-30 23:45:51] <Grail> Matvey is actually a long rang marksman, but he's better leading units.
  3939. [2011-12-30 23:46:15] <TMIoverload> Oh, Bob, are the special guns already handed out or can that be decided in post?
  3940. [2011-12-30 23:46:51] <TMIoverload> AVt is obviously something Ivan the sniper would have, and the AA-12 would probably go to either Camella or Vlad since he's apparantly a shotgun surgeon
  3941. [2011-12-30 23:47:18] <Grail> Vlad has it
  3942. [2011-12-30 23:47:34] <Gunpowder_Symphony> AND his KS-23
  3943. [2011-12-30 23:47:37] <Grail> Four guns already went out I know Zhenya and Matvey grabbed one a peice.
  3944. [2011-12-30 23:47:47] <Arkeus> <Classhole> Bob: how hard, on a 1 to 10 scale with ten being the hardest, should I DM this mission, Classhole?: Average(1.00) Total(1) Rolled(1d11=1) <= Classhole, totallyabot.png
  3945. [2011-12-30 23:49:45] <Arkeus> <Bob> You know what would make for an excellent entrance? Shoot the main doors with the black hole while Hillevi freezes the far wall and makes it shatter <= i was actually thinking the exact same thing
  3946. [2011-12-30 23:50:01] <TMIoverload> We can't guarantee blackhole
  3947. [2011-12-30 23:50:27] <Grail> So how are we going to get past that kill zone
  3948. [2011-12-30 23:50:37] <TMIoverload> Not go through the gate?
  3949. [2011-12-30 23:50:52] <TMIoverload> The silo and trucks would both serve better as cover
  3950. [2011-12-30 23:51:17] <Arkeus> Hillevi can't do big ass ice walls every ten meters?
  3951. [2011-12-30 23:51:28] <Grail> There's still that 100m between the walls and the warehouse
  3952. [2011-12-30 23:51:38] <TMIoverload> The farther we get before we're even noticed or they can do anything the better
  3953. [2011-12-30 23:52:06] <Arkeus> How far from us can hummingbro go?
  3954. [2011-12-30 23:53:32] <TMIoverload> You know, the irony of Blitzing a Nazi establishment led by a guy with lightning powers is hilarious
  3955. [2011-12-30 23:54:23] <Grail> Once we ice/float over and hit the lights we're pretty much revealed.
  3956. [2011-12-30 23:54:50] <Arkeus> Hummingbro- how far from us can he go?
  3957. [2011-12-30 23:54:56] <Arkeus> because he could take out sentries easily
  3958. [2011-12-30 23:54:59] <Guile> welp, I think I have a pretty decent plan... now lets see if the dice gods are feeling generous. They usually arent
  3959. [2011-12-30 23:55:20] <Grail> .dice 1d100 to test the dice god's generosity
  3960. [2011-12-30 23:55:20] <Classhole> Grail: to test the dice god's generosity: Average(48.00) Total(48) Rolled(1d100=48)
  3961. [2011-12-30 23:55:28] <Grail> They are ambivalent
  3962. [2011-12-30 23:55:29] <TMIoverload> Ark, these aren't lone sentries.
  3963. [2011-12-30 23:55:29] <Guile> dice 3d100, right?
  3964. [2011-12-30 23:55:33] <Guile> in email field?
  3965. [2011-12-30 23:55:52] <Arkeus> Also, bob totally didn't insist quite a lot for making sure he could be nasty on us
  3966. [2011-12-30 23:55:52] <Grail> Sounds about right
  3967. [2011-12-30 23:55:53] <TMIoverload> If it's a three tier plan, yep
  3968. [2011-12-30 23:55:53] <Arkeus> ttoally
  3969. [2011-12-30 23:56:33] <Arkeus> wow
  3970. [2011-12-30 23:56:38] <TMIoverload> Guile, is that a horrid roll, or a great one?
  3971. [2011-12-30 23:56:38] <Guile> you fucking dice gods
  3972. [2011-12-30 23:56:39] <Arkeus> dice gods were nasty
  3973. [2011-12-30 23:56:44] <Arkeus> :-(
  3974. [2011-12-30 23:56:50] <Grail> Wat
  3975. [2011-12-30 23:56:52] <TMIoverload> Twelve and four suck, but a natural hundred?
  3976. [2011-12-30 23:57:01] <Arkeus> 1é and 4 REALLY suck
  3977. [2011-12-30 23:57:06] <Grail> The dice gods love/hate you
  3978. [2011-12-30 23:57:11] <Arkeus> Tsundere
  3979. [2011-12-30 23:57:15] <Guile> we are sneaky like a sneaky thing, which doesnt help when we get caught scaling the wall
  3980. [2011-12-30 23:57:29] <TMIoverload> And the 100 is for Hillevi and Camella's entrance
  3981. [2011-12-30 23:57:41] <Grail> Obviously she's stealing our luck for her own purposes
  3982. [2011-12-30 23:57:44] <TMIoverload> Also, putting Hillevi and Camella together seems stupid to me
  3983. [2011-12-30 23:57:49] <Guile> oh, right. I switched Armas sneaky roll for them at the last second
  3984. [2011-12-30 23:58:11] <Guile> Theyre going to be taking the brunt, I figure, and Hillevi has ice armor and Camella the charm
  3985. [2011-12-30 23:58:24] <Arkeus> Also, why are you rolling for other player characters?
  3986. [2011-12-30 23:58:28] <Arkeus> wtf, Guile?
  3987. [2011-12-30 23:58:29] <Guile> so yeah, we fail hard, but Camella and Hillevi complete the entire mission by themselves anyway
  3988. [2011-12-30 23:58:30] <TMIoverload> I think putting each of them with a team is the smartest idea
  3989. [2011-12-30 23:58:32] <Arkeus> they have their own rolls
  3990. [2011-12-30 23:58:43] <Grail> Hillevi needs a higher tier person to help her
  3991. [2011-12-30 23:58:45] <Guile> bob said to roll for each section of the plan
  3992. [2011-12-30 23:58:46] <Guile> *shrug*
  3993. [2011-12-30 23:58:49] <TMIoverload> I'll be posting a seperate plan here ina bit I think
  3994. [2011-12-30 23:58:56] <Guile> matvey could do it, but I went with camella
  3995. [2011-12-30 23:59:13] <Grail> Gotta love having leadership traits out the wazoo
  3996. [2011-12-30 23:59:34] <TMIoverload> I would've went with Matvey and some Russians, Camella with some Russians and maybe some mafia, and Armas with Rocco and others
  3997. [2011-12-30 23:59:46] <Guile> 3 groups?
  3998. [2011-12-30 23:59:48] <Arkeus> Armas will gain a "Luck giver- gives any good rolls he has to other players" trait, won't he?
  3999. [2011-12-30 23:59:49] <TMIoverload> Yep
  4000. [2011-12-30 23:59:52] <Arkeus> thanks, guile.
  4001. [2011-12-30 23:59:59] <TMIoverload> Three groups.
  4002. [2011-12-30 23:59:59] <Grail> Where does Hillevi go?
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