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- Session Start: Wed Aug 07 20:07:35 2013
- Session Ident: Ojama
- [20:07:35] Session Ident: Ojama (~ibastien@synIRC-4519D3EE.w109-211.abo.wanadoo.fr)
- [20:07:35] <Ojama> just quickly aldaron, what did i do wrong seriously? i just played 3 damn games, whats wrong with that?
- [20:07:55] <aldaron> i told them in the channel
- [20:07:59] <aldaron> i 100% understand
- [20:08:02] <aldaron> your frustration
- [20:08:04] <Ojama> did i ban people? did i say anything wrong? whats the problem here? am i a bad brain for having the best record ?
- [20:08:16] <aldaron> but like, eo did you tell you something and you didnt listen...
- [20:08:20] <aldaron> im not involved
- [20:08:26] <Ojama> im sorry?
- [20:08:29] <Ojama> does he have the right
- [20:08:30] <aldaron> i was merely giving my opinion based on the information given to me
- [20:08:34] <Ojama> to prevent me from playing
- [20:08:36] <Ojama> frontier games?
- [20:08:40] <Ojama> isnt this tournament supposed to be fun?
- [20:08:41] <aldaron> i was told he said something, you didnt listen
- [20:08:48] <Ojama> he told me not to play
- [20:08:50] <aldaron> tho u should be a bit happier lol
- [20:08:54] <Ojama> before top 4 is out
- [20:08:58] <aldaron> it was gonna be the full tourny
- [20:09:00] <aldaron> not its only a week
- [20:09:05] <aldaron> now *
- [20:09:10] <Ojama> im supposed to be
- [20:09:11] <Ojama> happy?
- [20:09:15] <Ojama> is that a joke?
- [20:09:25] <Ojama> i did nothing wrong and im banned for no reason
- [20:09:28] <aldaron> knock knock
- [20:09:30] <Ojama> oh ya sure, im fucking happy
- [20:09:41] <aldaron> like i said, im not involved
- [20:09:52] <aldaron> i simply gave my opinion on the information presented to me
- [20:09:54] <Ojama> you're not involved but you've talked to him for 2 hours
- [20:09:55] <Ojama> with bloo
- [20:10:02] <Ojama> and i cant even
- [20:10:04] <Ojama> defend myself?
- [20:10:05] <Ojama> wow nice
- [20:10:09] <Ojama> so he can ban me for no reason
- [20:10:13] <Ojama> and i cant even defend myself
- [20:10:31] <Ojama> jesus, why are you letting him host this tournament
- [20:10:34] <Ojama> he's just ruining it
- [20:10:52] <Ojama> did he also tell you that mcmeghan asked him to be subbed out
- [20:10:58] <Ojama> but eo doesnt want because he's a NAME
- [20:11:02] <Ojama> fucking great
- [20:11:05] <Ojama> what a nice host
- [20:11:13] <Ojama> he wants everyone to john so nO WINNER
- [20:11:48] <Ojama> im the best brain here, i've played 91 games and have the best record. I never talk on both channel and im banned for playing 3 damn games? congratulations
- [20:12:03] <aldaron> i was told eo told you not to play though
- [20:12:14] <Ojama> does he have the RIGHT
- [20:12:18] <Ojama> to prevent me from playing?
- [20:12:20] <aldaron> whether or not that was ok isnt something i know but bloo seemed to agree he did
- [20:12:33] <Ojama> why not banning
- [20:12:34] <Ojama> august
- [20:12:35] <Ojama> phil
- [20:12:36] <Ojama> and shake
- [20:12:40] <Ojama> since we need to be 2
- [20:12:42] <Ojama> to play a game?
- [20:12:45] <Ojama> hello?
- [20:13:16] <Ojama> did eo give you his pbin
- [20:13:22] <Ojama> in which he said brains can play
- [20:13:28] <Ojama> 3 frontier games max?
- [20:13:32] <Ojama> did he give you this pbin?
- [20:13:35] <aldaron> no
- [20:13:38] <Ojama> oh amazing
- [20:13:40] <Ojama> he didnt?
- [20:13:42] <Ojama> lemme give it to you
- [20:14:00] <Ojama> http://pastebin.com/z5W5sXsF
- [20:14:11] <Ojama> its in the topic
- [20:14:14] <Ojama> of brains chan
- [20:14:53] <aldaron> [20:14:29] <eOut> I said you can play 3 games
- [20:14:53] <aldaron> [20:14:30] <eOut> AFTER
- [20:14:53] <aldaron> [20:14:34] <eOut> he played the three games
- [20:14:53] <aldaron> [20:14:42] <eOut> and then I noticed he had played three games
- [20:15:17] <Ojama> and?
- [20:15:21] <Ojama> so now people can play 3 games
- [20:15:25] <Ojama> without being banned
- [20:15:28] <Ojama> but i am banned
- [20:15:31] <aldaron> but that means you knowingly broke the rules
- [20:15:32] <Ojama> for playing 3 games
- [20:15:33] <Ojama> man aldaron
- [20:15:37] <Ojama> lets be serious 5 secs
- [20:15:42] <Ojama> the reason why
- [20:15:44] <aldaron> at the time you played those 3 games, you didnt know that you were allowed to
- [20:15:45] <Ojama> im banned for frontier
- [20:15:49] <Ojama> is because i played 3 games
- [20:15:52] <Ojama> is that a joke or what?
- [20:16:01] <aldaron> im assuming its because it was against the rules
- [20:16:02] <aldaron> at the time
- [20:16:06] <aldaron> not the 3 games
- [20:16:09] <Ojama> against
- [20:16:10] <Ojama> the rules?
- [20:16:12] <Ojama> give me the rules
- [20:16:15] <Ojama> of the tournament plz
- [20:16:23] <Ojama> is it forbidden to chall brains
- [20:16:26] <Ojama> when you are a brain?
- [20:16:33] <aldaron> the host is allowed to add rules at his discretion
- [20:16:34] <Ojama> which rules are you talking about
- [20:16:43] <Ojama> ah yah the host is allowed to do whatever he wants
- [20:16:58] <aldaron> he just said dont play
- [20:16:59] <Ojama> even keeping a brain that asked to be subbed out
- [20:17:00] <Ojama> even banning his best brain
- [20:17:01] <Ojama> for playing 3 games
- [20:17:01] <aldaron> apparently bloo is fine with it
- [20:17:06] <aldaron> with what eo asked
- [20:17:11] <aldaron> so that became a rule
- [20:17:27] <Ojama> do you realize
- [20:17:28] <aldaron> then you played without knowing you could play 3 games, meaning you knowingly broke the rule
- [20:17:29] <Ojama> why im banned?
- [20:18:10] <aldaron> im just explaining my position to you
- [20:18:18] <aldaron> this is what im presented with
- [20:18:34] <Ojama> im banned
- [20:18:38] <Ojama> for playing 3 games
- [20:18:41] <Ojama> read that again
- [20:18:42] <Ojama> please
- [20:18:53] <Ojama> the smogon frontier
- [20:19:02] <Ojama> in which you're supposed to chall and beat brains
- [20:19:04] <aldaron> eo asks people not to play, bloo is ok with it, so it becomes a rule; you play anyway, meaning you broke the rule because eo didnt say it was ok to play 3 games until after you did
- [20:19:07] <Ojama> to get the green trophy
- [20:19:11] <aldaron> so i have to agree with some punishment
- [20:19:11] <aldaron> i mean
- [20:19:16] <aldaron> you did break the rule
- [20:19:17] <Ojama> and im banned for playing 3 brains
- [20:19:19] <aldaron> bloo said he was ok with
- [20:19:24] <Ojama> wtf is that rule seriously
- [20:19:32] <Ojama> why not banning
- [20:19:35] <Ojama> phil shake and august
- [20:19:38] <Ojama> for playing as well?
- [20:19:39] <Ojama> why not?
- [20:19:44] <Ojama> lets be logical and fair here
- [20:21:52] <Ojama> your lack of answer just proves me im 100% right here
- [20:22:01] <Ojama> you perfectly know i shouldnt be banned
- [20:22:06] <Ojama> i did nothing wrong
- [20:22:13] <Ojama> this is fucking ridiculous to ban me
- [20:22:18] <aldaron> you played when eo told you not to play >.>
- [20:22:22] <aldaron> how is that not wrong
- [20:22:28] <Ojama> and so thats a reason to BAN me?
- [20:22:31] <Ojama> for playing GAMES
- [20:22:38] <aldaron> but lets not say you did NOTHING
- [20:22:38] <Ojama> in a tournament you're supposed to win by playing GAMES
- [20:22:39] <aldaron> at least
- [20:22:43] <aldaron> you did do something
- [20:22:46] <aldaron> you played when told not to
- [20:22:54] <Ojama> omg big deal
- [20:23:01] <Ojama> i played pkmn games
- [20:23:10] <Ojama> since when he has the right to prevent people from playing
- [20:23:14] <Ojama> if someone is close from winning
- [20:23:18] <Ojama> is that fair?
- [20:23:26] <Ojama> in this kind of tournaments?
- [20:23:29] <Ojama> the faster wins
- [20:23:39] <aldaron> i dunno, bloo seemed fine with it
- [20:23:43] <Ojama> and the host prevents people from playing cause someone can win?
- [20:23:49] <Ojama> yah of course
- [20:24:01] <Ojama> everyone is fine with anything eo says
- [20:24:05] <Ojama> im the bad boy here
- [20:24:11] <Ojama> i played 3 damn games
- [20:24:14] <Ojama> for fun
- [20:24:17] <Ojama> and im banned
- [20:24:24] <Ojama> thats seriously ridiculous
- [20:24:40] <Ojama> ill lose my symbol that i deserved more than anyone else
- [20:25:05] <Ojama> smogon is definitely full of shit
- [20:25:24] <aldaron> lol
- [20:25:47] <aldaron> [20:23:49] <eOut> no
- [20:25:47] <aldaron> [20:23:56] <eOut> let me explain
- [20:25:47] <aldaron> [20:24:08] <eOut> ojama was the only one asking about playing
- [20:25:47] <aldaron> [20:24:13] <eOut> and I told him: no, brains can't play yet
- [20:25:47] <aldaron> [20:24:21] <eOut> I said this in the channel, to a general audience
- [20:25:47] <aldaron> [20:24:36] <eOut> apparently shakeitup and phil somehow missed the memo, so I made it clear and put it in the topic after ojama beat both of them
- [20:25:47] <aldaron> [20:24:48] <eOut> and after that was when ojama and august battled
- [20:26:01] <aldaron> what im getting from this is that august should also be banned from challenging the frontier
- [20:26:02] <aldaron> for a week
- [20:26:15] <Ojama> and you guys
- [20:26:19] <Ojama> are fine with a host
- [20:26:21] <Ojama> that banns
- [20:26:24] <Ojama> his best 2 brains?
- [20:26:30] <Ojama> he keeps
- [20:26:32] <Ojama> johns like mcmeghan
- [20:26:34] <Ojama> ifm and bro fist
- [20:26:38] <Ojama> but he can ban
- [20:26:41] <Ojama> his best brains?
- [20:26:48] <Ojama> is that a joke or something?
- [20:27:05] <aldarOFF> well ok
- [20:27:08] <aldarOFF> if that is a real concern
- [20:27:12] <aldarOFF> we should discuss that
- [20:27:17] <aldarOFF> but thats separate from this
- [20:27:46] <Ojama> how is that separate
- [20:27:51] <Ojama> the host can do whatever he wants
- [20:27:55] <Ojama> people are fine with it?
- [20:27:58] <Ojama> and thats it?
- [20:28:10] <aldarOFF> it doesnt seem like eo did whatever
- [20:28:16] <aldarOFF> he just said brains cant challenge right now
- [20:28:19] <Ojama> oh no
- [20:28:21] <aldarOFF> which is acceptable
- [20:28:33] <Ojama> he is just keeping a brain that played 0 game and asked to be subbed out
- [20:28:34] <aldarOFF> according to bloo
- [20:28:36] <Ojama> can he do that?
- [20:28:40] <Ojama> he's just banning his brains
- [20:28:43] <Ojama> can he do that?
- [20:28:44] <aldarOFF> that is separate from this situation...
- [20:28:48] <Ojama> he can prevent people from playing
- [20:28:50] <Ojama> in such a tournament
- [20:28:53] <Ojama> can he do that?
- [20:28:56] <Ojama> can he also ban papai noel
- [20:29:02] <Ojama> because he's clause from winning?
- [20:29:04] <Ojama> i mean
- [20:29:06] <Ojama> he's the HOST
- [20:29:13] <Ojama> close*
- [20:29:31] <Ojama> why not telling his brains to john until frontier ends
- [20:29:33] <Ojama> so no winner
- [20:29:36] <Ojama> even better
- [20:29:48] <Ojama> thats basically what he did
- [20:29:54] <Ojama> he even said it in his pbin
- [20:30:07] <aldarOFF> ima go get chipotle
- [20:30:09] <aldarOFF> ill brb
- [20:30:18] <aldarOFF> but in summary
- [20:30:21] <aldarOFF> for this specific situation
- [20:30:40] <aldarOFF> i am told he was within his rights to request brains not challenge each other, and you did so anyway
- [20:30:45] <aldarOFF> so im still getting you did something wrong
- [20:30:49] <aldarOFF> it might not warrant a ban
- [20:30:52] <aldarOFF> but you did do something
- [20:31:05] <Ojama> as you said it
- [20:31:09] <Ojama> i shouldnt be banned
- [20:31:13] <Ojama> so why am i banned?
- [20:31:18] <aldarOFF> no, i just said, it might not warrant a ban
- [20:31:29] <aldarOFF> im inclined to agree with the host's discretion
- [20:31:32] <Ojama> and WHY can he request brains not challenge each other
- [20:31:33] <Ojama> WHY?
- [20:31:36] <aldarOFF> regarding punishments
- [20:31:40] <aldarOFF> i dunno ask bloo lol
- [20:31:54] <Ojama> so if he bans papai noel, you would agree with him
- [20:31:57] <Ojama> because he's the host
- [20:32:03] <Ojama> he can do whatever he wants in his tournament
- [20:32:08] <Ojama> ah thats amazing
- [20:32:11] <aldarOFF> as long as he felt papai_noel broke a rule
- [20:32:14] <aldarOFF> and was being unreasonable
- [20:32:17] <Ojama> smogon tournaments are absolutely fantastic
- [20:32:21] <aldarOFF> i hear you havent exactly been civil with eo
- [20:32:24] <aldarOFF> during this whole thing
- [20:32:24] <Ojama> gr8 won ost
- [20:32:29] <Ojama> because ew is the dumbest host of all time
- [20:32:33] <Ojama> but it seems that eo
- [20:32:37] <Ojama> is a serious concurrent
- [20:32:44] <Ojama> for the award of the dumbest host
- [20:32:47] <Ojama> of the year
- [20:33:00] <Ojama> havent been civile?
- [20:33:02] <Ojama> lmao
- [20:33:07] <Ojama> i didnt want to be a brain
- [20:33:17] <Ojama> he pmed me and asked me if i could be a brain
- [20:33:19] <Ojama> i accepted
- [20:33:25] <Ojama> im the best brain by far
- [20:33:26] <aldarOFF> during this situation
- [20:33:30] <Ojama> i did nothing
- [20:33:34] <aldarOFF> i hear you havent been civil
- [20:33:37] <Ojama> i didnt ban anyone
- [20:33:40] <Ojama> didnt say anything
- [20:33:48] <aldarOFF> what about to eo
- [20:34:07] <Ojama> what about him preventing me from playing
- [20:34:13] <Ojama> i just said i wanted to play games
- [20:34:15] <Ojama> is that a fucking crime
- [20:34:30] <Ojama> brains have to wait enough time before challenging each other
- [20:34:55] <Ojama> we even have to wait that a random brazilian lucks the other brains before having our chance… oh wait
- [20:34:59] <Ojama> the tournament will be over
- [20:38:38] <Ojama> if someone should be banned from frontier
- [20:38:47] <Ojama> this should be mcmeghan for lying to us many times
- [20:38:58] <Ojama> he still hasnt played a single game
- [20:39:08] <Ojama> he even asked to be subbed out but the host is still keeping him
- [20:39:13] <Ojama> can he do that?
- [20:39:33] <Ojama> forcing him to stay? what a nice host you guys found
- [20:43:45] <Ojama> thats also amazing to see that eo can find a sub to replace while he's been claiming for days he hadnt a sub for mcm
- [20:43:50] <Ojama> so the host can also lie?
- [20:44:25] <Ojama> anyway im done, you just showed me how dirty smogon is
- [20:44:34] <Ojama> banned for playing games, best joke of all time
- [20:45:59] <aldarOFF> i have a better joke
- [20:46:01] <aldarOFF> knock knock
- Session Time: Thu Aug 08 00:00:00 2013
- Session Time: Fri Aug 09 00:00:00 2013
- Session Close: Fri Aug 09 18:58:03 2013
- Session Start: Sat Aug 10 15:11:19 2013
- Session Ident: ojama
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