Lesta Nediam GPP2016-12-03 1145 Pizza Gate and Haters

Lesta Nediam GPP2016-12-03 1145 Pizza Gate and Haters
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2016-12-03 1145 __ *ON "PIZZA-GATE" AND THE SYMBOL THAT IS USED BY "FREE RADIO REVOLUTION" ("FRR" / "JEFF C") AND WHY LESTA HAS DRAWN ATTENTION TO IT. PLUS A MESSAGE TO THE HATERS OF LESTA*.

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WARNING: Even by Lesta's standards this is *long* so don't attempt to read it all at once!

I have broken it up into "sections" for those who prefer to read it over a number of sittings. And I have thoughtfully provided plenty of spacing to rest the eyes while reading. ))



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Although this post is addressed to just one person I don't actually expect it to be read - _at least not in full_ - by that person.

*My words - however - will always reach and resonate with the right people*.


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I am writing this post as a response to a comment from +Twit Wit because it's more suited as a Google Plus post and because Twit Wit has been "shadow blocked" by YouTube.

By being "shadow blocked" her comments are only visible to those who are signed in and so my reply would not be seen by most people.


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_Twit Wit originally wrote:_



*"Lesta, Jeff's FRR symbol is not a triangle and the implication itself is not only sick but insulting to Jeff's subs.  really disappointing video. =("*



A link to her comment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEk14JdAS9Q&lc=z135wzypcmnucdcyi04chvpizz3depn5ndg

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Please read this through once - (*up to the "message for the haters"*) - then go back and look at the portions of the video I specify time periods for - before reading through it one more time.

Although I don't expect a reply from you - if you do reply - please at least be aware of everything in this message first.





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_*And now for Lesta's characteristically long reply!*_

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Let's focus on these words you wrote (I have put some words in *bold*): _"the *implication itself* is not only *sick* but insulting to Jeff's subs"_

>> As it happens - that is one of the *main points* my video makes only you may not have realised it yet. <<

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*TWO PRELIMINARY POINTS:*

1) If you had watched this video at least up to the "Red Pill Philosophy" segment then you would know that *"Jeff C" has asked his audience to be on the lookout for these symbols*.

_And so I did as "Jeff C" requested_.



2) You would also know that according to "Jeff C" *we cannot expect to find a "perfect match" to the FBI symbols*.

_And so I lowered my expectations and did not expect to find perfect matches_.



>> I am only doing what an audience member of "Jeff C" has been asked to do and may feel encouraged to do. <<



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By the way, what do you mean when you talk about the "FRR" symbol not being a triangle? *The "FRR" symbol more closely resembles the spiral symbol* which I isolated at 6:28 - (please take a look at that).

Or do you mean that the spiral in the FBI database has a more "triangular shape" to it? If so then don't forget "Jeff C" has said we must not expect to find a "perfect match" (and I'll deal with that aspect next).

It becomes rather *subjective* as to what's a match and what isn't - huh? _That happens to be a point I make in the presentation_.




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You have said that the "FRR" symbol used by "Jeff C" *does not* resemble the FBI logo and +Free Yourselves Globally Project has made the same observation.


>> Guess what? *I can agree with you (both)*! <<


For you to think I am implying "Jeff C" is a pedophile because of his symbol and its perceived resemblance to the FBI symbol *_is to misunderstand a major point I am making in the video_*.

That is why I am now taking the time to write this substantial reply. While I often write lengthy messages *this* reply is not something I would do for just anyone. I recognise that you are an "active regular" in the so-called "truth community" and so it is important to me that you understand the points I am making.

The same goes for FYGP as well.



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*IMPORTANT*: Now draw your attention to the symbol that "Alex Jones" would have us believe is a "match". That symbol can be seen in my presentation at 5:34. (Please watch from 5:27 to 5:40 and pause it at 5:34 so that you can hold it in your mind.)



While showing these symbols the narrator for "Alex Jones" says the following words:

_"Notice the symbols of the ping-pong paddles *and its clever resemblance* to the FBI database document's symbol for child love"_.


(For those who are reading along at home without having watched my video - the narrator is referring to the *"butterfly"* FBI symbol while at the same time *comparing* it to the symbol of two *ping-pong bats*.)


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With all of the above in mind: *Would you say the "butterfly symbol" and the "ping-pong bats symbol" are similar*?


>>> *I would say they are EVEN LESS similar than the symbol "Jeff C" used and the "little boy lover" FBI symbol*! <<<


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So what is the "rule" that has been established by "Jeff C"? Please read over the following more than once if my wording isn't immediately clear:




*RULE*: If "Jeff C" *can accept* the symbol that "Alex Jones" points out as having *an adequate resemblance* that deserves to be _"pointed out as a potential symbol advertising a deviant's sexual preference"_ *then he MUST ALSO accept HIS OWN symbol bears an adequate resemblance and deserves to be pointed out*.



Why? >> _Because they are *equally dissimilar*_. <<

They are EQUALLY *DISSIMILAR*. The "butterfly HEART shape" and "ping-pong bats" are just as *dissimilar* as the "TRIANGULAR spiral" and the "Free Radio Revolution" symbol.

So how can it be that "Jeff C" would *embrace* the "Butterfly/Ping-Pong" symbol as bearing a "clever resemblance" *while simultaneously rejecting* the notion that his own "Free Radio Revolution" symbol bears a clever resemblance?


>>> He CANNOT without being either ARBITRARY or DISHONEST. <<<


An early point my presentation makes about those promoting "Pizza-Gate" is their *astonishingly reckless* hypocrisy.




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"Alex Jones" and "Jeff C" are at best being *arbitrary* and at worst being outright *dishonest*.

They are *at best* picking and choosing what they want to see as a "symbol of pedophilia" to suit their needs. And they are *at worst* encouraging *intellectually and emotionally vulnerable people* to see "symbols of pedophilia" _where they most likely are not present_.


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With your reproach to me you are defending "Jeff C" (as is "BzTruetalk"). I will in time be alleging that "Jeff C", "Alex Jones" and others are *inciting hatred* and are *seeking to provoke* a real event where an innocent person *really does become harmed* as a consequence of this.

>> _For how is that not to be an anticipated consequence?_ <<


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Put aside whether or not you think "Julian Assange" is a "genuine person" or a "controlled person". Are not those who attack "Julian Assange" and "WikiLeaks" *itching for a "real world" example* where someone "innocent" *does get harmed* as a result of leaked documents?

Would not such a tragedy have a so-called "chilling effect" on those who might otherwise be tempted to "leak information"?

I do not believe "Julian Assange" ever said: _"Hey guys, I am releasing the Podesta emails because they contain coded references to Satanic pedophilia - now go and investigate it!"_ *but if you listen to "Jeff C" and "Alex Jones" you would think that was the "tacit reason" for why "WikiLeaks" released them!*





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*AND NOW FOR A MESSAGE TO MY HATERS*




While the following applies to *all of the haters of Lesta* I am focusing my attention on "Bz" because he has been the most active and he serves as an exemplary example of someone who practices dishonesty and hypocrisy.

He is just coherent enough to be convincing to those who want to hear the kind of things he says. Given the garbage he records himself saying and allows others to hear it is my firm belief that "Bz" *is a most wretched, snivelling and contemptible loser*.

He is *representative* of those who hate on Lesta and what I have to point out about him so very often *applies to others* who also hate on Lesta.

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"Bz" is a sad little man who chooses to focus on (intentional) misunderstandings he has about what I have had to say with regard to the "ISS" *while choosing to overlook the very real and immediate dangers of what people like "Jeff C" and "Alex Jones" are actually doing*.


"Bz" would have you believe that _"Lesta is a bad person for making unsubstantiated claims - hiss hiss!"_ while at the very same time his spit-worthy mentors "Jeff C" and "Alex Jones" are doing precisely that *on a scale and magnitude that's beyond anything Lesta could ever do*!


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In an effort to hate on me dummies like "Bz" must overlook a great many "inconvenient" things.

For example - let's suppose Lesta is wrong to be critical of the "ISS" because of the way it is presented. *If I am wrong about the "ISS" then it means there are people living in space*.

Awesome! That's good!

It's good to be wrong!

_I hope I'm wrong!_

(By the way - Lesta *does not* assert as a fact about reality that the "ISS" is fake or that people *are* being filmed underwater. It's easy for careless, stupid and dishonest people to *imply* that I make those claims when in reality *I don't*.)



_*If Lesta is wrong* - big deal. *People are in space*. Hooray!_



>>> *But if "Jeff C", "Alex Jones" and pals are wrong then it cannot at all be a good thing FOR IT WOULD MEAN that they are accusing INNOCENT PEOPLE of not just being PEDOPHILES - but of being mixed up in SATANIC PEDOPHILE RINGS that involve the wholesale MURDER of children*. <<<



So there's a difference.


>>>>> There's a BIG F_KCING DIFFERENCE. <<<<<


*And the difference f_kcing well matters*.




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If I am wrong then it means people are in space (never mind that my *focus* is on *how* the "ISS" is *presented* and *not* whether it's manned or not - though it would be unrealistic to expect dummies and dishonest people to understand or acknowledge this *nuance*).


On the other hand - if people like "Jeff C" and "Alex Jones" are wrong then it means *INNOCENT PEOPLE* are being *horrendously slandered* and their lives put at *genuine risk* from *insane* and *paranoid* people who are *susceptible to manipulation* from the repeated *intentionally reckless* rhetoric of "Alex Jones", "Jeff C" and pals.



Yet "Bz" - (that most prolific of "social commentators" with more than 500 videos posted in under 18 months) - thinks it's more worthwhile to focus his time - _*and your attention*_ - on misconstruing things Lesta has in the past had to say about the "ISS" *when Lesta first began looking into the issue*.



Notice how with such unbridled fervour "Bz" and pals will latch onto *a few select things* I had pointed out *in the early days* of when I first began examining the "ISS" and first began scrutinising the "conspiracy claims" made about it.



>> Oh - how he will preach to anyone who will listen about how people should "let things go and move on" - _but he cannot bring himself to let go and move on!_ <<


>> Oh - how he will preach to anyone who will listen about how Lesta "cherry-picks" evidence - _*but in order to turn people against me he is himself forced to cherry-pick*!_ <<



He - *and all who hate on me* - are soon revealed as *consummate hypocrites*.

I spit on them. And I spit on them _until there is no more spit_.



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Even if "Bz" *wasn't* misrepresenting me and even if I really did assert the things he claims I do - then *is it the case that I assert those very same things today*? Or is "Bz" choosing to *cling onto the past* because back then - _*back when I was new to all of this*_ - it was so much easier to misrepresent me?


Has "Bz" never been wrong about something and learned from it? Is that what he would allege about himself - that he is perfect? That he has never held an incorrect opinion?


"Bz" is setting a rule whereby we are to be bound to every single thing we have ever said in the past - *including that which we didn't* _just so long as it can be construed as "crazy" by "Bz"_.

And it's even worse than that. "Bz's rule" insists that we *still think and feel* it today! Because according to "Bz" if someone has said something in the past it must mean they are still saying it - and still thinking it - and still feeling it - _*for all of eternity*!_

That's his stupid little rule. And so from now on that most stupid and worthless of rules shall be known as: *"BZ's RULE"*.

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Do you think "Bz" would hold himself to the same standard he demands of others? Would "Bz" really apply his own rule to himself?

*Would "Bz" really apply his own rule to all of his friends and allies (such as "Jeff C" and pals)*?

Or would "Bz" only apply that most STUPID and WORTHLESS of rules to those he disagrees with while *ignoring* it whenever it applies to those he considers to be on his own side?

As I say - that *wretched little coward* is the *consummate hypocrite*. _As so are all who have become *negatively and psychotically obsessed* with Lesta_.





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"Bz" can be heard telling his audience that he used to be a "truther" - that he used to "believe" things about "hoaxes". Will he allow us to relentlessly drag out his *old and abandoned* beliefs every time he has something to say about a current issue?


Because that's the rule "Bz" has established. That's what "Bz" demands of others - and so why not also of himself?


But uh.. just what are some of these "conspiracies" that "Bz" used to believe? _Does anyone actually know?_


Have you noticed how "Bz" never talks about that. *He never properly addresses his own "origins"*. When he is asked about _"what were some of the conspiracies you used to believe?"_ *he dances around with his two left feet like a klutz _and cannot give anyone a straight answer_*.




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*MEANWHILE - EVERY F_KCING WORD I HAVE EVER WRITTEN ON THE TOPIC OF "CONSPIRACIES" AND "NEWS EVENTS" HAS BEEN PAINSTAKINGLY ARCHIVED FOR ANYONE AND EVERYONE TO READ FOR THEMSELVES*.

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*I have shown AND explained* - MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE - *how I got from A to B*.


I have *shown the changes in my thinking over time* and I have *not* sought to hide it *_nor hide from it_*.


Every video I have ever posted *is still available* via my Google Plus (and I have explained elsewhere why my videos have been made unlisted - though rest assured they can still be found).

Every Google Plus post I have written remains up and every comment I have written on YouTube has been archived at Pastebin for all to read.


>> Who else has done that? No one. Who else has come close? No one. <<


That is how I can know what I wrote - when I wrote it - and where I wrote it. And when a genuine person comes along I can explain to them *why* I wrote it. But "Bz" isn't interested in the "why" of anything - he and the haters are only interested in misrepresenting.

Given that I have written as many words as I have - even if I were a f_kcing Saint it would still be possible for these conniving little pests to chop it up and present it as something terrible. That they can do this is not surprising. That jealous losers would go ahead and do this - is also not surprising.

These little losers can only take *cheap shots from the sidelines* because they do not have the b4lls to communicate with Lesta one on one. Some who disagree with me do *but as a rule _these losers don't_*.

They are scared little pu$$ies who gush about at every opportunity to *poison the well* and *muddy the waters* but they will not do it to my face *because they fear My rebuke*.

For if that is not true then where is their willingness to talk one on one? Why be satisfied doing what they do behind my back when they could also do it to my face?

>> *They won't because they are jealous little cowards and Lesta has called them out*. <<




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And so my openness and willingness to pour out my thoughts on "conspiracy topics" - my willingness to engage with anyone and everyone - *is now to come under attack from worthless and jealous low IQ losers like "Bz"*?!


_Get the f_kc out of here!_


>> I won't put up with this any longer and it is a shame to see you - or anyone else - fall for their *insecure hate*. <<


If I kept saying the same things from the past - then I am damned. If I stop saying those things from the past - then I am also damned!

No matter what I do - by these *wretched and worthless fools* I am damned if I do and damned if I don't.

And that's even if they weren't having to resort to lying about me and selectively quoting from me. Even if they weren't doing that (which they are) _they have given no possible way for a person to grow_.


>> *THEY HAVE GIVEN ME NO POSSIBILITY OF REDEMPTION*. <<


How is that reasonable? It's not.

Has "Bz" *never* progressed his thinking on an issue? Does "Bz" *have all the answers* and did he have them *from the very outset*? Hypocrite.


As judge, jury and executioner these *worthless losers* have cut off the possibility of growth from those they don't like. Meanwhile - when their own side behaves *deplorably* and *hypocritically* - _that's just fine!_


Is it okay for them to do that?


>> Are you really okay with their relentless tactics? Is it really okay to do this to people just because you don't like them? *Have they really managed to turn you against me*? <<


It's not okay.


There is a *profound difference* between how I have addressed the "ISS" issue (and other issues) and how "Jeff C" and "Alex Jones" and pals are addressing the "Pizza Gate" issue.

This profound difference is completely and *wilfully* overlooked by those like "Bz" who need to disregard everything that's *inconvenient* or *contradictory* to their pre-existing belief bias *_in order to "justify" their hate for Lesta_*.


Losers. Never have I encountered so many spiteful and jealous losers as I have here on YouTube. _Good grief!_




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How will you feel when someone *innocent* has their reputation destroyed and becomes physically attacked *or killed* as a result of the *repeated reckless rhetoric* that comes from people like "Alex Jones" and "Jeff C"?

And you would write these words to me without *first* understanding the points I am making: *_"...the implication itself is not only sick but insulting to Jeff's subs. really disappointing video"_*


Thanks!


Know that you have been supporting a liar - _and liars_ - who are lying about me and are lying about a serious issue.


>> *AND THEY ARE DOING IT TO INCITE HATRED AND DIVISION.* <<


So are you on their side *or have they just gotten inside your head*? Tell me if you can because I'd like to know how you can defend these people given how flagrantly they do what they repeatedly do.





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For a few other people who might want to read these words:
+John le Bon,  +nationalparksign ., +Terran Downvale




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