Guto Bebb Emails

Dylan Barlow <dylan.barlow87@googlemail.com>
from:	 Dylan Barlow <dylan.barlow87@googlemail.com>
to:	 "BEBB, Guto" <guto.bebb.mp@parliament.uk>
date:	 Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 1:39 PM
subject:	 Danish Military Involvement In The Faroe Islands

to Guto
15 St Winifreds,
Charlton St,
Llandudno,
Conwy
LL30 2AA
Wales, UK

Dear Mr Bebb,
As you are my MP, I wish you to investigate the Danish military
involvement in the Faroe Islands. I am led to believe that the Danes
actions are in violation of European law.

I wish to lodge my utmost contempt to the Danish navies support of the
illegal whaling operation in the Faroe islands.

The Danish navy have illegally detained a number of Sea Shepherd
volunteers who were acting in accordance with the international ban on
whaling, which Denmark complies.

Therefore, Denmark is violating its own laws in supporting the Faroe islands.

The fact that military assets have been deployed against unarmed
civilians have sent alarm bells ringing across the world, and it is
time that the Danish Government listens to international pressure.

Citizens worldwide are sickened by the annual vision of whales
marooned in blood-red waters. Islanders stone, gouge, spear, hack and
bludgeon some 2,000 to 3,500 long- and short-finned pilot whales under
the bizarre notion that God created these animals for the Faeroese to
butcher alive.

During a pilot whale "grind" boats chase whales into shallow bays,
where the disoriented creatures are easily gored with metal gaffs.
Waters turn a brilliant red by the time killers sink a 6-inch blade
past blubber and flesh to sever a whale's spinal cord.

Finally, vital blood vessels are cut, leaving a bay littered with
mangled whales. Unbelievably, whale drives are festive community
events. Young children even take part in the massacre of terrified
animals.

I cannot support tourism in the Danish Faeroe Islands until whale
kills are permanently terminated. I urge officials to legally shield
wildlife from abuse, including the senseless slaughter of whales for
sport.

Moreover, the population count for North Atlantic long-finned pilot
whales is unknown. The Convention on the Conservation of European
Wildlife and Natural Habitats classifies them as "strictly protected."
Each time the Faeroese kill even 100 whales, entire pods and family
groups are erased. This weakens the their gene pool and harms
ecosystems in the North Atlantic and the North Sea.

The whale drive is illegal in other European states. Residents of the
Faeroe Islands don't use the toxin-contaminated flesh left behind.
Tradition, entertainment and sport never justify outright torture. For
these reasons, I respectfully ask you to outlaw whale drives in the
Danish Faeroe Islands.

I hope you will take the time to read this, and I look forward to your reply.

DYlan Barlow
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His Reply
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 BEBB, Guto <guto.bebb.mp@parliament.uk>
to:	 Dylan Barlow <dylan.barlow87@googlemail.com>
date:	 Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 1:43 PM
subject:	 Re: Danish Military Involvement In The Faroe Islands

Dear Mr Barlow,

I think this issue, being a foreign matter, is above my pay grade.

Yours etc.,

Guto Bebb

Sent from my HTC
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My Reply
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from:	 Dylan Barlow <dylan.barlow87@googlemail.com>
to:	 "BEBB, Guto" <guto.bebb.mp@parliament.uk>
date:	 Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 1:47 PM
subject:	 Re: Danish Military Involvement In The Faroe Islands

I thank you for your very prompt reply, however As my Member of
Parliament , Im sure you could have at least provided me with someone
in parliament who would be willing to take up my issue!
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His Reply
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from:	 BEBB, Guto <guto.bebb.mp@parliament.uk>
to:	 Dylan Barlow <dylan.barlow87@googlemail.com>
date:	 Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 1:51 PM
subject:	 Re: Danish Military Involvement In The Faroe Islands

Me Barlow,

So I should show you a degree of respect that you have opted not to show me?

Your comments on social media were clear that as your MP you thought that foreign affairs were "above my pay level".  What has changed your mind?

Yours,
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My Reply
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from:	 Dylan Barlow <dylan.barlow87@googlemail.com>
to:	 "BEBB, Guto" <guto.bebb.mp@parliament.uk>
date:	 Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 1:57 PM
subject:	 Re: Danish Military Involvement In The Faroe Islands

So every member of the electorate who disagrees with your actions
loose their right to representation by their MP? I asked you to point
me in the right direction, unfortunately it would seem you now choose
which parts of the community you now represent.

I was trying to be civil on this matter as it is one very close to my
heart, unfortunately now it would seem i will have to make a formal
complaint and take your actions up with the local press.

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His reply
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from:	 BEBB, Guto <guto.bebb.mp@parliament.uk>
to:	 Dylan Barlow <dylan.barlow87@googlemail.com>
date:	 Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 2:02 PM
subject:	 Re: Danish Military Involvement In The Faroe Islands

Oh behave.  You opted to treat me with disdain and specifically stated that I should not get involved with Foreign Affairs.  So what has changed?  Sounds as if you simply jumped on a bandwagon because you could.

The MP / constituent relationship is a two way process.  You made it clear the disdain you had for my involvement in Foreign Policy so stick to your principles which you have previously made in the public domain.

Best,

GutoBebb

Sent from my HTC
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My Reply
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from:	 Dylan Barlow <dylan.barlow87@googlemail.com>
to:	 "BEBB, Guto" <guto.bebb.mp@parliament.uk>
date:	 Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 2:08 PM
subject:	 Re: Danish Military Involvement In The Faroe Islands

Actually You are paid to represent the interests of your constituency,
so now can I just confirm for the record that you are not willing to
discuss my issue in any way and you are stepping away from your
elected duties?

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His Reply
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from:	 BEBB, Guto <guto.bebb.mp@parliament.uk>
to:	 Dylan Barlow <dylan.barlow87@googlemail.com>
date:	 Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 2:33 PM

Dylan, grow up.

Explain to me in simple terms why I must take up your foreign affairs issue whilst it is your much tweeted view that for your MP to have a view on foreign affairs is above their pay grade?

I have no idea where you stand on any foreign affairs matter (apart from your stated disdain for North Sea fishing communities) and care even less.  I would, however, as I do with all constituents, research the issue and respond.

However, in view of your stated opinion that Foreign Affairs are above my pay grade I do feel that you need to explain why on this issue your stated position does not stand.

I look forward to your explanation as to why I should be interested in your foreign policy issue but not that of other constituents.  It will, I have no doubt, be worth reading.

Best,

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My Reply
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from:	 Dylan Barlow <dylan.barlow87@googlemail.com>
to:	 "BEBB, Guto" <guto.bebb.mp@parliament.uk>
date:	 Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 2:40 PM
subject:	 Re: Danish Military Involvement In The Faroe Islands

I will not be explaining anything to yourself from now on Mr Bebb.
full copies of these emails will be sent to the Office of the
Parliamentary
Commissioner for Standards along with a full complaint.  Also full
copies have been sent to the Daily Post and the Weekly news

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His Reply
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from:	 BEBB, Guto <guto.bebb.mp@parliament.uk>
to:	 Dylan Barlow <dylan.barlow87@googlemail.com>
date:	 Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 2:48 PM
subject:	 RE: Danish Military Involvement In The Faroe Islands

Dylan,

By all means.

Shame that you can happily hand out stick on Twitter but when asked to simply explain the inherent contradiction in your views it seems slightly too difficult.  Not surprised to be honest, the contradiction is pretty clear and can only be explained by reference to the view that I should be interested in your pet foreign affairs issue but not those that do not interest you.

Surprise, surprise, that is not how democracy works.

I do look forward to receiving a copy of your complaint.  It will keep me amused.

Best,
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Second Set Of emails Which started out of the blue
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from:	 BEBB, Guto <guto.bebb.mp@parliament.uk>
to:	 Dylan Barlow <dylan.barlow87@googlemail.com>
date:	 Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 12:45 PM
subject:	 Twitter

Dear Dylan,

I often find that those who are brave on twitter are cowards in real life.

You seem to fit the bill.

Best,


Guto

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My Reply
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from:	 Dylan Barlow <dylan.barlow87@googlemail.com>
to:	 Guto BEBB <guto.bebb.mp@parliament.uk>
date:	 Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 1:37 PM
subject:	 Re: Twitter

Dear Mr Bebb,

I think that comment was completely uncalled for,  you know nothing about me or my daily struggles!

I suffer from aspergers and find some aspects of life extremely difficult, so before you brand people a coward, maybe you should think before sending childish emails.

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His Reply
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from:	 BEBB, Guto <guto.bebb.mp@parliament.uk>
to:	 Dylan Barlow <dylan.barlow87@googlemail.com>
date:	 Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 1:57 PM
subject:	 Re: Twitter

Dear Dylan,

What I know is that you are willing to attack me in a public forum with no justification.

That is, in my view, the work of a coward.  As for your daily problems and struggles; is that a justification for attacking me?

I have always treated you with respect, you chose not to extend the same respect to me.  Fine, so be it, but do not start a sob story now.

Yours,

Guto

Sent from my iPad

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My Reply
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from:	 Dylan Barlow <dylan.barlow87@googlemail.com>
to:	 "BEBB, Guto" <guto.bebb.mp@parliament.uk>
date:	 Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 2:03 PM
subject:	 Re: Twitter

So just because I disagree wholeheartedly with your support of Israel
and speaking out against your views in public, I am now a coward?

As to you calling my condition a sob story, I find that extremely
offensive! How dare you

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His Reply
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from:	 BEBB, Guto <guto.bebb.mp@parliament.uk>
to:	 Dylan Barlow <dylan.barlow87@googlemail.com>
date:	 Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 2:10 PM
subject:	 Re: Twitter

Dylan, are you just obstinate or just not very clever?

I do not care what your view is on Foreign Affairs and you have every right not to agree with me.  What I highlighted was your rude and disparaging comments about foreign affairs being above my "pay grade".  Whilst that might be your view it takes a certain type of cheek to then ask for my support on a foreign affairs related issue.

As yet you have not had the decency to try and explain the inherent contradiction in your position and I suspect that I will be waiting until the cows come home for an explanation.

Best,

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My Reply
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from:	 Dylan Barlow <dylan.barlow87@googlemail.com>
to:	 "BEBB, Guto" <guto.bebb.mp@parliament.uk>
date:	 Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 2:21 PM
subject:	 Re: Twitter

I have found your emails today to be extremely offensive and they have
caused some distress (not that I expect you to understand in any
way!).

Attacking my mental health issues as a sob story has shown your true colours!

Todays set of emails will be passed along to with yesterdays to the
Chair of the Aberconwy Conservatives and the Parliamentary
Commissioner for Standards.

Yes I disagree with your actions in Israel, but that is not a reason
to attack me in such a manner!

If you cannot take criticism, I suggest you find a new line of work
(which I suspect come May, you will be anyway!)

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His Reply
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from:	 BEBB, Guto <guto.bebb.mp@parliament.uk>
to:	 Dylan Barlow <dylan.barlow87@googlemail.com>
date:	 Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 2:24 PM
subject:	 Re: Twitter

O behave!

As for your complaints they have to come to me first so the meeting I have offered might be worthwhile.

Guto
PS - If you do have mental health issues then you should possibly refrain from commenting in the public domain since it might create problems for you.

Sent from my iPad