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  1. [9/21/2013 2:41:36 PM] *** Jason Harber has shared contact details with S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a. ***
  2. [9/21/2013 2:44:39 PM] Jason Harber: Hi! I hope you are on! I just got an e-mail from epic npc and this has been a huge mistake and I apologize! I did not mean to drag your toon into this. As soon as I get this account back I will transfer the toon to your account. Please have an open slot available. I have no excuse except this was an over sight and I apologize! This mess will be sorted out soon hopefully!
  3. [9/21/2013 7:25:51 PM] Jason Harber: did you get my message? I am so sorry, it is all my fault. I was trying to get my accounts in order and I opened a can of worms. We need to get this figured out so your account does not get banned!!! Do you have another account?
  4. [9/21/2013 7:27:04 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: Hey, just got your message, was panicking a little bit
  5. [9/21/2013 7:27:24 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: Yeah, I can activate another account to transfer the char onto
  6. [9/21/2013 7:27:29 PM] Jason Harber: Well, you need to panic, they can ban the account
  7. [9/21/2013 7:27:39 PM] Jason Harber: I am not sure what we need to do now
  8. [9/21/2013 7:27:41 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: thats what im worried about
  9. [9/21/2013 7:28:00 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: Well, with that email I got it states that it will revert ownership to you in a few days
  10. [9/21/2013 7:28:50 PM] Jason Harber: Yes it said it MAY revert. I think we need a solid reason as to why you had it though? What if they find out you bought it then it is banned for sure!
  11. [9/21/2013 7:29:28 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: They want me to reply to the email I got from them, havent replied yet
  12. [9/21/2013 7:29:59 PM] Jason Harber: OK, so after this is done we need to do a 100% legit "private" sale on the forums
  13. [9/21/2013 7:30:28 PM] Jason Harber: well as legit as posting and saying private sale etc and you can send me like 1 isk for the trade or something
  14. [9/21/2013 7:30:47 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: yeah, just hope that the account doesnt get banned
  15. [9/21/2013 7:31:52 PM] Jason Harber: Hmm, Well, they sent me back an e-mail at first asking me if I had ever given my account info out which I thought was strange in the first place and I told them I had lan parties and maybe someone got it at that. I didn't know they were refering to the damn account I sold though.
  16. [9/21/2013 7:32:09 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: ahh :x
  17. [9/21/2013 7:33:06 PM] Jason Harber: OK well, e-mail them back that you got the account at a lan party lol ... They cant do anything to you obviously. It is just the account that needs to be saved.
  18. [9/21/2013 7:33:41 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: Should post a follow up on epic too so they know we spoke to each other
  19. [9/21/2013 7:34:15 PM] Jason Harber: Yes we can, but honestly, I only used that place to sell some stuff. I dont care if they ban me. I just want you to get your toon back.
  20. [9/21/2013 7:34:30 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: they wont ban you once they see its an honest mistake
  21. [9/21/2013 7:34:40 PM] Jason Harber: I play ffxiv now anyway which is awesome btw haha
  22. [9/21/2013 7:34:49 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: I've been playing a bit too haha
  23. [9/21/2013 7:35:37 PM] Jason Harber: If they ban the account, I will send you back your $450 that is all I can do though, but I hope it does not come to that.
  24. [9/21/2013 7:36:00 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: Yeah, hope it doesnt get to that :x
  25. [9/21/2013 7:36:28 PM] Jason Harber: OK so you got it at a lan party, but how did you get it? From someone or you found it ?
  26. [9/21/2013 7:37:10 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: Could say that you were showing me the game and thought that you can lend me the account for a bit so I can try it out
  27. [9/21/2013 7:37:28 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: but didnt know the EULA states the statement they have about account sharing
  28. [9/21/2013 7:37:40 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: make it seem like a misunderstanding maybe
  29. [9/21/2013 7:37:55 PM] Jason Harber: Yes, but they might not care and just say you broke the rules ban lol
  30. [9/21/2013 7:38:30 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: hmm
  31. [9/21/2013 7:39:07 PM] Jason Harber: how about, you just came to play and you found some accounts in a notepad and just took them? Or a variation of that?
  32. [9/21/2013 7:40:00 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: make it seem like the account got stolen or something? they might look up my payment info and ban my other accounts :x
  33. [9/21/2013 7:40:03 PM] Jason Harber: If it was really "hacked" then they should just give it back I would think
  34. [9/21/2013 7:40:16 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: two sided blade we got here though
  35. [9/21/2013 7:40:32 PM] Jason Harber: ah yes true, I didnt know you had other accounts
  36. [9/21/2013 7:40:51 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: yeah, I made two after I got this one lol
  37. [9/21/2013 7:41:25 PM] Jason Harber: anything on those? I could just buy you two accounts, those are cheap here, like $5 each lol
  38. [9/21/2013 7:41:59 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: ones got a 100m sp char on it I traded a supercap for :x lol
  39. [9/21/2013 7:42:09 PM] Jason Harber: oh wow ok nm then lol
  40. [9/21/2013 7:42:26 PM] Jason Harber: OK, so we need to make it like the account was stolen, but we were both victims
  41. [9/21/2013 7:42:49 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: honestly, making it look like an honest innocent mistake might be better at this rate
  42. [9/21/2013 7:43:01 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: accounts do get shared often in eve with the larger alliances
  43. [9/21/2013 7:43:04 PM] Jason Harber: yes, I think you are right
  44. [9/21/2013 7:43:31 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: but in this case, both of us didnt know the EULA statement for account sharing
  45. [9/21/2013 7:44:00 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: and that I was testing it out with your high sp character, could easily tell them that i'll be creating another account to transfer the toon to so I can continue playing or something without having to use that account
  46. [9/21/2013 7:44:33 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: as long as CCP doesnt detect any wrong use for the account, im sure they wouldnt ban it
  47. [9/21/2013 7:45:17 PM] Jason Harber: Well, just say YOU didnt know the EULA since I already told them I didnt share it? Didnt you just start eve? I have been playing for like 10 years lol so I dont know if they would believe me not knowing
  48. [9/21/2013 7:45:37 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: hmm, good point
  49. [9/21/2013 7:47:07 PM] Jason Harber: Ohh how about this ... I was going to just give you a blank account and in the confusion I gave you an account with a character on it and you thought I was just giving it to you and you didnt realize I gave you the wrong account and it was breaking the rules?
  50. [9/21/2013 7:47:39 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: worth a shot
  51. [9/21/2013 7:48:01 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: was thinking of something like you set up a new account for me but gave me the wrong creds
  52. [9/21/2013 7:48:18 PM] Jason Harber: Ohh yes I like that also ...
  53. [9/21/2013 7:48:34 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: still a lot of grey area, and thats what worries me
  54. [9/21/2013 7:48:44 PM] Jason Harber: oh well, but I wouldnt make you a new account with my name though like jpharber haha
  55. [9/21/2013 7:48:53 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: mmm yeah lol
  56. [9/21/2013 7:49:30 PM] Jason Harber: I like the idea about me just giving you an old inactive account of mine, but I gave you the wrong one. I think it is OK to give away an account.
  57. [9/21/2013 7:50:14 PM] Jason Harber: or we can just say we thought it was OK to give away an account for free since we were not selling anything
  58. [9/21/2013 7:51:43 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: the eula thing might come up though
  59. [9/21/2013 7:52:15 PM] Jason Harber: Well, yes I know it is bad to sell, but just give away I think it alright honestly
  60. [9/21/2013 7:52:44 PM] Jason Harber: they just dont want you selling in game items or toons ... It doesnt say anything in the rules about giving stuff away for free
  61. [9/21/2013 7:52:50 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: true
  62. [9/21/2013 7:53:22 PM] Jason Harber: So yes just e-mail them with that. I think that sounds innocent honestly
  63. [9/21/2013 7:54:43 PM] Jason Harber: You were interested in starting eve so I gave you an innactive account for free to try it out and I gave you the wrong info and you thought I meant to give you an account with a toon on it and since you were new you didn't know the rules
  64. [9/21/2013 7:55:00 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: sounds good
  65. [9/21/2013 7:55:29 PM] Jason Harber: Yes I think it does also. I think it will be fine with that story honestly.
  66. [9/21/2013 7:56:24 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: Ok, I posted a reply on epicnpc that we're communicating and that the process was an honest mistake on your end
  67. [9/21/2013 7:56:31 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: and that we're working on resolving the issue
  68. [9/21/2013 7:56:44 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: you'd probably want to reply in there too
  69. [9/21/2013 7:56:57 PM] Jason Harber: Yes I will
  70. [9/21/2013 7:58:24 PM] Jason Harber: OK I am going to go watch some tv. I have my ipad and phone close so I will know if I get an e-mail from ccp.
  71. [9/21/2013 7:58:45 PM] Jason Harber: I am not sure what hours they work
  72. [9/21/2013 7:58:46 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: Sounds good, thanks for getting back to me, was stressing some just now
  73. [9/21/2013 7:59:02 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: They have 24/7 staff but dont expect anything soon
  74. [9/21/2013 7:59:27 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: most likely a lead GM will investigate further and let you know, they like to escalate these things
  75. [9/21/2013 7:59:43 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: I was reading up on many threads on large alliance shared accounts and how CCP dealt with it
  76. [9/21/2013 7:59:53 PM] Jason Harber: oh, what did they do?
  77. [9/21/2013 8:00:23 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: they returned the account to the original owner and gave everyone else a slap on the hand for using it lol
  78. [9/21/2013 8:00:32 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: for the other alliances using it for RMT purposes, it got banned
  79. [9/21/2013 8:00:59 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: good example is a toon that flies a titan used to bridge large gangs over large amounts of space
  80. [9/21/2013 8:01:16 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: they share it because they know the owner cant be on at all times to pop that bridge open
  81. [9/21/2013 8:01:44 PM] Jason Harber: yes that makes sense and not like they are using it to cheat or anything
  82. [9/21/2013 8:02:09 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: and since we're not doing anything like that on the account and made it seemed like an honest mistake, I dont think they'll ban it
  83. [9/21/2013 8:02:19 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: probably put a transfer lock for 14 days if anything :x
  84. [9/21/2013 8:02:27 PM] Jason Harber: yes, I don't think they will either
  85. [9/21/2013 8:04:14 PM] Jason Harber: I was looking in the bazaar and toon prices look like they are in the toilet lol
  86. [9/21/2013 8:04:25 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: yeah, think plexes took a dump
  87. [9/21/2013 8:04:59 PM] Jason Harber: Well, I dont play now, but I still like to go back now and then so hopefully Eve isnt dying?
  88. [9/21/2013 8:05:13 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: naw, its not going anywhere
  89. [9/21/2013 8:05:58 PM] Jason Harber: You never updated your eveboard? How has the training been going?
  90. [9/21/2013 8:06:35 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: Ahh, don't use eveboard much lol
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  92. All races have V on all non T2 ship skills and I was getting him into some missile use
  93. [9/21/2013 8:07:06 PM] Jason Harber: omg, when did they add duel training on the same account?
  94. [9/21/2013 8:07:15 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: last patch iirc
  95. [9/21/2013 8:07:22 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: kinda overpriced though
  96. [9/21/2013 8:07:27 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: you're better off getting a second account
  97. [9/21/2013 8:07:37 PM] Jason Harber: lol true, but still kinda cool
  98. [9/21/2013 8:07:55 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: its nice when you want to make a cyno alt or planetary interaction alt
  99. [9/21/2013 8:08:08 PM] Jason Harber: I can see it being good if you just want certain toons like traders
  100. [9/21/2013 8:08:13 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: ahh that too
  101. [9/21/2013 8:08:36 PM] Jason Harber: yeah secondary training though imo a plex should be good for two months
  102. [9/21/2013 8:09:22 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: yeah
  103. [9/21/2013 8:09:47 PM] Jason Harber: What are you flying? Just pvp frigs in a corp?
  104. [9/21/2013 8:10:10 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: out of corp atm, but mostly BCs and t3 ships
  105. [9/21/2013 8:10:26 PM] Jason Harber: Ohh I see, so you want to get in a Tengu? lol
  106. [9/21/2013 8:10:36 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: was actually using him to harass a corp that one of my friends was in that was mad with them lol
  107. [9/21/2013 8:11:22 PM] Jason Harber: what were you doing to make money? I never got good at that myself lol
  108. [9/21/2013 8:11:42 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: since I was stuck in nullsec, I did complexes and sites
  109. [9/21/2013 8:11:48 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: easily make 80-100m an hour
  110. [9/21/2013 8:11:55 PM] Jason Harber: oh wow nice
  111. [9/21/2013 8:12:06 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: if you find a good site via probing, it can drop mods that sell upwards 1b isk
  112. [9/21/2013 8:12:15 PM] Jason Harber: you don't get ganked a lot in null ?
  113. [9/21/2013 8:12:25 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: I fly cloaky a lot lol
  114. [9/21/2013 8:12:34 PM] Jason Harber: ah gotcha lol
  115. [9/21/2013 8:12:55 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: also larger alliances have very complex intelligence networks (chat windows really) that let you know when a neutral person or gang is in the area
  116. [9/21/2013 8:13:32 PM] Jason Harber: So basically you are pretty safe for the most part
  117. [9/21/2013 8:13:36 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: haven't been able to play too much in the last month because of a job transition
  118. [9/21/2013 8:13:42 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: mm yeah, just gotta be a bit paranoid in space
  119. [9/21/2013 8:13:57 PM] Jason Harber: and never fly what you can't afford to lose haha
  120. [9/21/2013 8:14:13 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: yup lol
  121. [9/21/2013 8:14:21 PM] Jason Harber: I always flew what I couldn't afford to lose, but I was mostly in high sec
  122. [9/21/2013 8:14:38 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: yeah, lots of suicide ganking happening recently
  123. [9/21/2013 8:14:54 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: did my fair share of those to afk miners lol
  124. [9/21/2013 8:15:13 PM] Jason Harber: Ah yeah good, I love mining and those guys always pissed me off
  125. [9/21/2013 8:15:39 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: its easy to avoid, align to a station, stop your ship
  126. [9/21/2013 8:15:42 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: if someone lands next to you, warp out lol
  127. [9/21/2013 8:15:52 PM] Jason Harber: I wish mining wasn't almost worthless though for profit, or it was anyway before I quit
  128. [9/21/2013 8:16:06 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: They changed how mining works actually, they're like sites now
  129. [9/21/2013 8:16:10 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: er wait thats icemining
  130. [9/21/2013 8:17:14 PM] Jason Harber: OK darn I was going to go watch tv lol so send that e-mail back and hopefully they get back to us soon
  131. [9/21/2013 8:18:26 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: aight, replying to them
  132. [9/22/2013 1:56:49 PM] Jason Harber: heard anything yet?
  133. [9/22/2013 1:57:31 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: Nothing yet
  134. [9/22/2013 2:23:10 PM] Jason Harber: So do you earn a lot more isk ratting in null sec compared to L4 missions in high sec?
  135. [9/22/2013 2:29:02 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: Oh yeah
  136. [9/22/2013 2:29:45 PM | Edited 2:29:53 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: no turn ins to do what so ever
  137. [9/22/2013 2:30:09 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: you go into a site and get money from bounties
  138. [9/22/2013 2:31:42 PM] Jason Harber: nice, if I come back I need to actually join a corp and do that and start to pvp or something new
  139. [9/22/2013 2:32:19 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: pvp is definately well worth looking into
  140. [9/22/2013 2:33:03 PM] Jason Harber: Any good corps that are actually helpfull and good lol ?
  141. [9/22/2013 2:33:20 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: red vs blue and brave newbies is a good place to start
  142. [9/22/2013 2:33:57 PM] Jason Harber: oh yes I have seen that red vs blue a lot on the forums. I have never heard of brave newbies though.
  143. [9/22/2013 2:34:21 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: http://www.reddit.com/r/bravenewbies
  144. [9/22/2013 2:34:42 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: good resource and coverage for them
  145. [9/22/2013 2:35:54 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: they do a lot of lowsec pvp but its geared towards those who dont have much pvp experience
  146. [9/22/2013 2:36:02 PM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: it also sounds like they have a lot of fun
  147. [6:24:47 AM] Jason Harber: OK I got the account back with a 30 day transfer lock so that part sucks, but at least it is not banned. So let me know the account to transfer it to once the time ends.
  148. [10:30:54 AM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: Hey, saw that you got the account back
  149.  
  150. When do you think you'd be able to transfer Asred ? I can have an account up ASAP
  151. [10:38:18 AM] S̴͞h͝ís̡̛͢h̕i͜kuŕ͜a: I'm at work right now but feel free to leave messages here, I check these periodically anyways
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