GITDAT (Frank P.): I won't be around for a while , maybe gone for good
GITDAT (Frank P.): OOC
DixieCup: Oh no... why? Is it because of the contsant attacks?
GITDAT (Frank P.): all the shit didn't piss me off, but did irritate me because I took personal time for the ts discussion and semi defended the dudes.
GITDAT (Frank P.): They are legitimate when they choose with their role play and they are dictating how a server is ran
DixieCup: Yeah... but they are being monitored much more closely now, and now they cant point to the fact of "theres no rules" to excuse away their behaviour
GITDAT (Frank P.): The attacks aren't an issue.  But now FMC and DAMN Attacking daily too?? Hmmm and they all roll with the TM too.  That's stupid shit, they are getting butt hurt OOC and bringing it IC in a way that doesn't fit
GITDAT (Frank P.): and they were talking to me like being pussies
DixieCup: I mean, I do really REALLY understand your sentiment. I just... wish it wasnt so that you'll be leaving us :(
DixieCup: They were talking to you like you were being a pussy? Im confused
GITDAT (Frank P.): Complaining about the same shot they do.  How Sofia shot them first , I was like dude self defense and it's a game
GITDAT (Frank P.): No they were being pussies
GITDAT (Frank P.): Like kids really
GITDAT (Frank P.): Blowing my chat up like we need to talk
GITDAT (Frank P.): Then linking video see she shot first.
GITDAT (Frank P.): Ughhh you were holding people up and just shot
GITDAT (Frank P.): What the deal is
GITDAT (Frank P.): My beef from the start was the flip flop and lack of consistent roleplay
GITDAT (Frank P.): That's it
DixieCup: Yeah... I know. They are sore sports when it comes to THEM having the ill-effect of PVP, which is probably why they target our characters to fight in the first place rather than attacking the other heavy PVP factions... which is their friends in DAMN of FMC or all of them...
GITDAT (Frank P.): Yeah and story progression isn't happening
GITDAT (Frank P.): I tried negotiating
DixieCup: And they use RP as an excuse for their targeting of our locations
GITDAT (Frank P.): Did you watch kleanupguys twitch of everything ?
DixieCup: I did, I watched ALL of it...
GITDAT (Frank P.): It exhibits how they really are
GITDAT (Frank P.): My roleplay was spot on
GITDAT (Frank P.): Asking about the militia not saying it was bad
GITDAT (Frank P.): Then when I was behind the barn door I offered grenades
DixieCup: it seemed pretty fucking cut and dry to me. They're all asshats that could have just ast much fun doing what they do on  a public server because their RP is ONLY when they are taking hostages, they break character and TS bro all the rest of the time they are playing
GITDAT (Frank P.): I called them ass hats in character haha
GITDAT (Frank P.): On ts they were like did he just call us ass hats!?
GITDAT (Frank P.): I mean it wasn't tricky, I knew 2 mins into it they were TM and gang
GITDAT (Frank P.): But I was giving them a chance
GITDAT (Frank P.): And I smoked them out
GITDAT (Frank P.): But what to do when 2 admins are doing it also
DixieCup: I know, I saw... as much as I could see from the shitter Klean was in lol
GITDAT (Frank P.): That's my other issue , conflict of interest
DixieCup: I know... Its fucked. And they dont see it because they're friends.
GITDAT (Frank P.): Yep
GITDAT (Frank P.): I don't care about attacks and losing shit
DixieCup: When this was all going down, Ace and Crust pulled away from us to remain altruistic... wouldnt really talk to us about the situations and even LEFT THE ALLIANCE IC
GITDAT (Frank P.): But now it's just trolling and I guess I thought dug was better than that
DixieCup: It was... until Dan and the Group 5 boys got butthurt that we didnt like their griefing as RP
GITDAT (Frank P.): Yep
GITDAT (Frank P.): Then they came with lame basic blank check kos group and character info
DixieCup: I mean, I understand what this is doing to your character... you could do what we have had to do, which is run away from the location long enough for them to get bored and try to progress your story outside of your usual locations...
GITDAT (Frank P.): Yeah
GITDAT (Frank P.): Frank don't jive well with some of the southern boys
GITDAT (Frank P.): Like PTU
DixieCup: Or, take a break like Tex... even he isnt sure when he's coming back. We are still kind of looking into other RP servers, but all the ones we have been checking out are just BOGGED down with rules. like, no using grenades and shit.
GITDAT (Frank P.): we will see
DixieCup: Well, how are you with the Guardians?
GITDAT (Frank P.): I have an open invitation to join, but don't know
GITDAT (Frank P.): maybe without the alliance we can do what we were gonna do before
GITDAT (Frank P.): Be a subgroup under the guardians
GITDAT (Frank P.): Staying in polesovo
DixieCup: You very well could
GITDAT (Frank P.): We had already talked it out
GITDAT (Frank P.): The day the alliance was formed haha
GITDAT (Frank P.): I was like well that's a no go
GITDAT (Frank P.): Frank said anyways
DixieCup: Please done leave Frank, if you leave, then we truly will have lost. Just like how we dont know if Tex is coming back... if we dont leave, theres something for use to come back to.
GITDAT (Frank P.) is now Online.
DixieCup: We can take camping trips. You can take your Kindred boys and learn the areas around Polesovo, to better learn your environment anyways
DixieCup: Being directly AT the patch is too dangerous, but it doesnt have to be the end of your story...
GITDAT (Frank P.): Yeah
GITDAT (Frank P.): OOC: there just isn't story progression.  Only when certain people allow it.
DixieCup: Come up North east. I have STILL yet to meet a decent man who will teach me how to fish. I have STILL never gone fishing.
GITDAT (Frank P.): I just am floored at how little was done , I have the benefit of being a fresh pair of eyes
GITDAT (Frank P.): It is super obvious that people are pissed OOC and trolling IC with no RP
DixieCup: I know, but the more frustrated and bored these kids get with us not cooperating, the sooner they will either move on, or do something stupid like stream snipe again and get themselves booted.
GITDAT (Frank P.): That's it.  And just pushing the envelope to do it
DixieCup: The RP has to be with the RPers...
GITDAT (Frank P.): We will see
DixieCup: Well, again, I completely understand where you're coming from, Trevor and I were both talking a lot over the last few days how worried we've been for you, how long your patience was going to last with all of this as well.
DixieCup: And like you said, you DEFENDED them, and they are still doing this shit to you, because you're the only easy target they have now that Tex is on hiatus
GITDAT (Frank P.): I wasn't even upset about the attacks it's a game.  The thing that irritates me was I took time away from my family to talk as adults then they basically were like fuck you we do what we want.  I won't continue to support that , on principle alone
GITDAT (Frank P.): Here is the thing I could sit in the woods and plant grenades in all the tents and say I killed them all
GITDAT (Frank P.): It will be a Gilligan gang vs st joes redux
GITDAT (Frank P.): Which I said won't happen
GITDAT (Frank P.): My time is limited so if I want fps shooter pvp I will play another game
GITDAT (Frank P.) is now Away.
DixieCup: Yeah... I asked Jazzy, he says the RedZone is a good RP server apparently
GITDAT (Frank P.) is now Online.
GITDAT (Frank P.): Just read the policy updates. Lots of words
GITDAT (Frank P.): that was about it for me though
GITDAT (Frank P.): vague
GITDAT (Frank P.): And exploitable
GITDAT (Frank P.): I won't even waste time responding.
GITDAT (Frank P.): The whole false report is the who fired first, IC thing....really
GITDAT (Frank P.): fucking little kids
GITDAT (Frank P.): Really
GITDAT (Frank P.): I guess I am not used to the state of people and Internet reputation
GITDAT (Frank P.): I don't have a Facebook for that reason
GITDAT (Frank P.): So...my interaction with kids was limited before DUG in a validation sense
DixieCup: No, that was about the kid who used to be a Firekeeper who lived in Orlando and \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
GITDAT (Frank P.): Huh?
DixieCup: He was the one that made the claims about the "Fags in orlando"
DixieCup: Which may or may not have been false or a copycat
DixieCup: Sorry, someone talking to me on TS
GITDAT (Frank P.): Never heard about that
GITDAT (Frank P.): Theron was crying to me in ts about what I was talking about , like really
GITDAT (Frank P.): I told hi
GITDAT (Frank P.): I told him dude you have 3 mins he did a voice over play by play that they didn't shoot first....
GITDAT (Frank P.): When the tables are turned...
GITDAT (Frank P.): He posted a video
DixieCup: Yeah, he was caught by some supposed TM, and they supposedly told him they were going to gut him like they gutted the F*gs in Orlando, and he LOST friends in Orlando, and made the clain against them, but no proof, and the two TM members in question both said it wasnt them  so it was either a false report or a copycat the mods decided. And since Harrioson left the SUb and never came back, they assumed it was a false report
DixieCup: Yeah, they are just bandwagoning now and covering each others backs...
GITDAT (Frank P.): I don't know because they are shit heads OOC
GITDAT (Frank P.): listening to them on TS proves that
DixieCup: \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
GITDAT (Frank P.): It was exactly how I knew they played but gave them a chance. When I watched kleanupguys stream it proved my point
DixieCup: Fuck, Im sorry about that ^^^
GITDAT (Frank P.): It's like if the consensus wants to RP they do if not they kos
GITDAT (Frank P.): And you can hear that on the stream
DixieCup: Its true...
GITDAT (Frank P.): I am willing to roleplay a negotiation
GITDAT (Frank P.): But treat it right not just ohh you believed us dumbass
GITDAT (Frank P.): I rekt you
DixieCup: But, now, after how they are reacting AFTER that altercation... how can we believe they arent just going to keep griefing?
GITDAT (Frank P.): Yep
GITDAT (Frank P.): they have shot up the patch today again no story
GITDAT (Frank P.): Yesterday
GITDAT (Frank P.): Damn was there
GITDAT (Frank P.): I spoke with joker and hex IC they said nothing to worry about
DixieCup: I'd say this qualifies as griefing OOC... but, we cant ask them to give us a break because "thats not letting them play their characters"
GITDAT (Frank P.): OOC they are pissed because their boys almost got banned or called out
GITDAT (Frank P.): Haha
GITDAT (Frank P.): Yeah
GITDAT (Frank P.): Declare a war for a good reason on the patch
GITDAT (Frank P.): no story still
GITDAT (Frank P.): No real recounting of what went down.
GITDAT (Frank P.): They weren't role playing until they ambushed us
GITDAT (Frank P.): Then came accents and everything
GITDAT (Frank P.): It was stupid
GITDAT (Frank P.): I won't just kill them because again no progression
GITDAT (Frank P.): That's it in a nutshell for me
GITDAT (Frank P.): Even in the steam I was basically throwing bait to expand on the roleplay
GITDAT (Frank P.): Talking about the militia how they had claimed the airfield and that it was a smart move for their types
GITDAT (Frank P.): Nothing
GITDAT (Frank P.): So...I can say I gave them a chance
DixieCup: You did give them a chance... and its not your fault they arent playing ball
GITDAT (Frank P.): And I haven't done shit to them personally
DixieCup: Frank... the only way I know that works to deal with them in game... is to abandon camp for a few days, and let them get bored with not finding you guys there...
DixieCup: Because unless we can explain to them OOC that we need a couple days break for story progresssions sake, or more interaction outside of PVP/RP for story's sake, and for them to ACTUALLY take it seriously and maturely compromise... but idk if they will
GITDAT (Frank P.): Nah
GITDAT (Frank P.): And to further prove the whole conflict of interest
GITDAT (Frank P.): Sofia was banned , combat logging
GITDAT (Frank P.): They shot her she was unconscious
GITDAT (Frank P.): I told her it was technically a combat log
GITDAT (Frank P.): Does someone have to report that?
DixieCup: WHAT?! Oh NO!
DixieCup: I dont know... if they shot her unconscious she may not have known that respawning was technically combat logging
GITDAT (Frank P.): nah, I mean me I always wait...but if that had to be reported
GITDAT (Frank P.): And bravo was temp banned...I am not stupid
DixieCup: None of us are. We can all see through this ruse...
GITDAT (Frank P.): She even just said admins are friends with them
GITDAT (Frank P.): My point also
DixieCup: Zahj and Soul are their buddies, and they also watch streams while playing I guess, as well as half the other ones apparently
GITDAT (Frank P.): Conflict of interest
DixieCup: It really, really is...
DixieCup: Zahj doesnt like RP at all I guess...
GITDAT (Frank P.): And he is an Admin on a widely know RP server??
DixieCup: ...yeah... but hes buddies with all these banditbros
DixieCup: and Bravo...
GITDAT (Frank P.): If I make a last post it will be a politically correct tea bagging
GITDAT (Frank P.) is now Online.
GITDAT (Frank P.): One of the reasons for the ban was "your choice to disallow a RP scenario or combat to resolve organically"
GITDAT (Frank P.): they are disallowing roleplay, admitted it
GITDAT (Frank P.): And organic combat when they say population dictates whether they RP or not
GITDAT (Frank P.): Hmmmmm
GITDAT (Frank P.): This is bullshit and I am not even close with Sofia
GITDAT (Frank P.): She did combat log
GITDAT (Frank P.): But if someone reported it then that's just proving my point
GITDAT (Frank P.): The community spoke and yet a handful of people are shaping what the community is becoming
DixieCup: I dont know if it has to be reported, but if it does... then yeah, this is BS WORSE than it already is...
DixieCup: And they cant ban them all for Stream Sniping...
GITDAT (Frank P.): I am telling you those guys were butt hurt
GITDAT (Frank P.): Theron sought me out
GITDAT (Frank P.): Never talked to him
GITDAT (Frank P.): He was pleaing his case
GITDAT (Frank P.): Like dude....you are co
DixieCup: Yup, we all see it. WE can all smell this shit for what it is, we're not the ones trying to tell people its roses
GITDAT (Frank P.): He was complaining about what they do to people
GITDAT (Frank P.): Yep
DixieCup: He was complaining? To you about what they do to people? Like he doesnt even like it?
GITDAT (Frank P.): No about when the shit went down and they were pissed that people IC said they shot first. Sofia shot someone with a gun pointed at me. Then he was saying how he wanted to roleplay but others didn't
GITDAT (Frank P.): Either way waste of time
GITDAT (Frank P.) is now Away.
DixieCup: Yeah... I mean, her shooting someone who had a gun to you is PVP/RP too, so they cant be upset by that. If they wanted to RP, maybe they shouldnt have come in and held the place up
DixieCup: And it sounds like some of them WANT to RP hold ups, and some just want to PVP
DixieCup: So, even though they're all buddies, even they cant get along with each other