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  1. TRANSCRIPTS #SIFT
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  3. NOTE APPEARANCES OF "C1UMBRACharon"
  4. ALEPH AGENT INFILTRATING AND ATTEMPTING TO FRAGMENTING SIFT TEAM TO HINDER OPERATIONS
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  6. 2012-05-10T13:44:42 *** UmbraRumba has joined #sift
  7. 2012-05-10T13:45:09 <nignog> well keep it short, if we could relay a good drop location and this chat and pass then its good
  8. 2012-05-10T13:45:32 <jeebus_> Oh, you're gonna call? I was just about to.
  9. 2012-05-10T13:45:38 <jessie> And ask if the previous message from this morning was legit.
  10. 2012-05-10T13:45:46 <jessie> BTW, that's my bot.
  11. 2012-05-10T13:45:57 <jessie> Glad to see he made it in here okay.
  12. 2012-05-10T13:46:06 <marylamb> so, who wants to go get the next one?
  13. 2012-05-10T13:46:23 <nignog> jeebus, record if you do :)
  14. 2012-05-10T13:46:48 <iIIustrious> Like I said, I don't think it matters who calls, as long as we keep it consistent in the future. Are you fine being the guy that calls jeebus_ ?
  15. 2012-05-10T13:55:51 *** UmbraRumba has joined #sift
  16. 2012-05-10T13:56:28 <jessie> Test the bot.
  17. 2012-05-10T13:57:28 <jeebus_> Calling now
  18. 2012-05-10T13:57:29 <marylamb> umbrarumba gonna make karma hard
  19. 2012-05-10T13:57:29 <UmbraRumba> marylamb: Error: "gonna" is not a valid command.
  20. 2012-05-10T13:57:50 *** UmbraRumba has joined #sift
  21. 2012-05-10T13:58:12 <jeebus_> Here goes nothing
  22. 2012-05-10T13:58:24 <jessie> Let us know how it goes.
  23. 2012-05-10T13:59:33 *** UmbraRumba has joined #sift
  24. 2012-05-10T13:59:48 <jessie> Okay, final bot test.
  25. 2012-05-10T14:00:40 <marylamb> umbrarumba diddles karma
  26. 2012-05-10T14:00:40 <UmbraRumba> marylamb: Error: "diddles" is not a valid command.
  27. 2012-05-10T14:01:22 <marylamb> did he diddle you karma?
  28. 2012-05-10T14:02:11 <jeebus_> Okay. Call made, gave locations , requested confirmation of IRC transmissions, and gave my email.
  29. 2012-05-10T14:02:43 <Sorgens> Recorded?
  30. 2012-05-10T14:02:44 <jessie> Bitchin'.
  31. 2012-05-10T14:02:54 <jeebus_> Shit!
  32. 2012-05-10T14:03:01 <nignog> D:
  33. 2012-05-10T14:03:04 <jeebus_> No. Didn't think about it.
  34. 2012-05-10T14:03:10 <Sorgens> Hmm...
  35. 2012-05-10T14:03:16 <jeebus_> Fuckin hell.
  36. 2012-05-10T14:03:21 <Sorgens> jessie, is that a python bot?
  37. 2012-05-10T14:03:22 <marylamb> UMBRA!
  38. 2012-05-10T14:03:36 <jessie> Correct you are, Sorgens
  39. 2012-05-10T14:03:43 *** begedele is now known as begedelebot
  40. 2012-05-10T14:03:44 <jeebus_> I know you are but how
  41. 2012-05-10T14:03:47 *** begedelebot is now known as begedele
  42. 2012-05-10T14:03:50 <marylamb> and now poor jeebus has gotta make all the calls
  43. 2012-05-10T14:03:55 <jeebus_> *who am i?
  44. 2012-05-10T14:04:10 <marylamb> jeebus?
  45. 2012-05-10T14:04:42 *** UmbraRumba has joined #sift
  46. 2012-05-10T14:04:47 <jeebus_> Been my nickname since that episode aired.
  47. 2012-05-10T14:04:51 <jessie> Okay, mentioning UmbraRumba shouldn't trigger it anymore.
  48. 2012-05-10T14:05:00 <marylamb> that was a classic
  49. 2012-05-10T14:05:01 <jessie> UmbraRumba diddles karma
  50. 2012-05-10T14:05:01 <UmbraRumba> jessie: Error: "diddles" is not a valid command.
  51. 2012-05-10T14:05:05 <jessie> Damn it
  52. 2012-05-10T14:05:08 <marylamb> lol
  53. 2012-05-10T14:05:19 <marylamb> karma diddles umbrarumba
  54. 2012-05-10T14:05:29 <marylamb> ?
  55. 2012-05-10T14:06:58 <marylamb> jeebus: i'm assuming were in the same age bracket then...what are your thoughts on pearl jam?
  56. 2012-05-10T14:08:25 *** UmbraRumba has joined #sift
  57. 2012-05-10T14:08:29 <jessie> UmbraRumba diddles karma
  58. 2012-05-10T14:08:29 <UmbraRumba> jessie: Error: "diddles" is not a valid command.
  59. 2012-05-10T14:08:33 <jessie> Fuck it.
  60. 2012-05-10T14:09:28 <jeebus_> I'm just shy of 30, and I enjoy pearl jam but I'd like to slap eddy.
  61. 2012-05-10T14:09:46 <jeebus_> Not really a huge fan though.
  62. 2012-05-10T14:09:50 <marylamb> lol
  63. 2012-05-10T14:09:56 <marylamb> agreed
  64. 2012-05-10T14:10:10 <marylamb> i just think that's a defining question
  65. 2012-05-10T14:10:15 <marylamb> i'm 30 as well
  66. 2012-05-10T14:11:12 <marylamb> jessie: effort was made...you should be proud
  67. 2012-05-10T14:11:29 <jeebus_> Agreed.
  68. 2012-05-10T14:11:37 <jessie> Fair enough. I'm going to try some more stuff. We'll see what happens.
  69. 2012-05-10T14:11:53 <marylamb> just make a bot that will lay karma already
  70. 2012-05-10T14:12:49 <marylamb> jeebus: maybe he'll just call you back
  71. 2012-05-10T14:12:53 <marylamb> this would really save time
  72. 2012-05-10T14:13:25 <jeebus_> Uh, well I kinda blocked my number.
  73. 2012-05-10T14:13:33 <marylamb> oh
  74. 2012-05-10T14:13:38 <marylamb> right on
  75. 2012-05-10T14:13:44 <Sorgens> spreaker will be then
  76. 2012-05-10T14:13:53 <Sorgens> Oh, btw, yesterday we had a first
  77. 2012-05-10T14:14:00 <Sorgens> 2 Transmissions on the same day.
  78. 2012-05-10T14:14:04 <jeebus_> But I gave my email.
  79. 2012-05-10T14:14:04 <marylamb> yeah
  80. 2012-05-10T14:14:08 <iIIustrious> or your email, since you gave it to him
  81. 2012-05-10T14:14:12 <marylamb> i think points to a team op
  82. 2012-05-10T14:14:45 <marylamb> oh yeah...even better
  83. 2012-05-10T14:14:51 <jeebus_> Well we know there's at least 2: virgil and Charon
  84. 2012-05-10T14:14:56 <jessie> UmbraRumba diddles karma
  85. 2012-05-10T14:15:02 <jessie> Much better. :-)
  86. 2012-05-10T14:15:09 <marylamb> lol
  87. 2012-05-10T14:15:12 <marylamb> nice
  88. 2012-05-10T14:15:45 <marylamb> i don't assume there's more just because the messages infer it though
  89. 2012-05-10T14:15:56 <marylamb> production-wise that's what it would take
  90. 2012-05-10T14:18:26 <jeebus_> Right, one to make the drop one to make the transmission.
  91. 2012-05-10T14:18:33 <karma> hey now
  92. 2012-05-10T14:18:50 <marylamb> jeebus: yeah but i also think spread around the country too...or at least with friends there
  93. 2012-05-10T14:18:51 <jeebus_> Are ya diddled?
  94. 2012-05-10T14:18:58 <marylamb> thoroughly i hope
  95. 2012-05-10T14:19:07 <karma> the cat and the fiddle
  96. 2012-05-10T14:19:23 <karma> hey diddle diddle...
  97. 2012-05-10T14:20:02 <marylamb> lol
  98. 2012-05-10T14:20:27 <marylamb> that was one of the first subsevisve sexual songs
  99. 2012-05-10T14:20:29 <jeebus_> I think these guys are geo-taggers who took it one step farther.
  100. 2012-05-10T14:20:33 <marylamb> subversive rather
  101. 2012-05-10T14:20:39 <karma> the cow jumped over the moon...
  102. 2012-05-10T14:20:48 <karma> clearly the cow was employing Tesla EM technology to accomplish such a feat
  103. 2012-05-10T14:21:01 <marylamb> HA
  104. 2012-05-10T14:21:07 <jeebus_> Steroids
  105. 2012-05-10T14:21:13 <jessie> http://www.jessieamorris.com/umbra/logs/
  106. 2012-05-10T14:21:16 <marylamb> the dog is meant to represent project bluebeam
  107. 2012-05-10T14:21:20 <iIIustrious> how many locations did you give them jeebus_ ?
  108. 2012-05-10T14:21:27 *** jessie changes topic to "Read: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zar-trb6lPSBuqA-gihynMpRskavFES5iymfzMAWpvU/edit || Logs: http://www.jessieamorris.com/umbra/logs/"
  109. 2012-05-10T14:21:48 <marylamb> oh you can pick "ferndale public library" in michigan too
  110. 2012-05-10T14:22:12 <jeebus_> All the ones I got p.m.ed
  111. 2012-05-10T14:22:35 <jeebus_> 6
  112. 2012-05-10T14:23:15 <iIIustrious> not a bad number
  113. 2012-05-10T14:23:26 <iIIustrious> hopefully one or more will work for them
  114. 2012-05-10T14:23:44 <jeebus_> I hope so.
  115. 2012-05-10T14:24:03 <marylamb> i woulda just gone with one...test their staying power
  116. 2012-05-10T14:25:07 <jeebus_> I referred to them as 'potential locations with active operatives'
  117. 2012-05-10T14:25:17 <marylamb> fag :)
  118. 2012-05-10T14:25:41 *** umbrabot has joined #sift
  119. 2012-05-10T14:25:42 <jeebus_> Lol
  120. 2012-05-10T14:25:57 <jessie> How many bots do we need? ha
  121. 2012-05-10T14:26:04 <marylamb> ha ha
  122. 2012-05-10T14:26:08 <begedele> :D
  123. 2012-05-10T14:26:18 <marylamb> karma: quit hitting your bong...more bots have arrived for you
  124. 2012-05-10T14:27:51 <begedele> umbrabot say hello
  125. 2012-05-10T14:28:21 <jeebus_> And karma is hauled away by a bot army.
  126. 2012-05-10T14:28:23 <karma> you don't know me
  127. 2012-05-10T14:28:27 <marylamb> lol
  128. 2012-05-10T14:30:32 <umbrabot> CHARLIE ONE UMBRA
  129. 2012-05-10T14:30:53 *** UmbraRumbra has joined #sift
  130. 2012-05-10T14:31:16 <UmbraRumbra> CHARLIE ONE UMBRA
  131. 2012-05-10T14:31:36 *** marylamb_ has joined #sift
  132. 2012-05-10T14:31:39 <karma> *mind explodes*
  133. 2012-05-10T14:31:43 <marylamb_> lol
  134. 2012-05-10T14:32:47 *** umbrabot has quit IRC
  135. 2012-05-10T14:32:56 *** marylamb has quit IRC
  136. 2012-05-10T14:33:01 <marylamb_> but...but...
  137. 2012-05-10T14:33:06 <marylamb_> i didn't quit
  138. 2012-05-10T14:33:34 <begedele> in soviet russia channel quits you...
  139. 2012-05-10T14:34:34 <marylamb_> lol
  140. 2012-05-10T14:34:56 <UmbraRumbra> ACTION pokes marylamb_
  141. 2012-05-10T14:35:13 <marylamb_> ooo
  142. 2012-05-10T14:35:19 <jessie> Who is this UmbraRumbra?
  143. 2012-05-10T14:35:28 <marylamb_> usually this treatment is reserved only for karma
  144. 2012-05-10T14:35:54 <marylamb_> that was my idea for the original song title
  145. 2012-05-10T14:36:01 <begedele> i'm just messing around with PHP jessie
  146. 2012-05-10T14:36:09 <marylamb_> ah
  147. 2012-05-10T14:36:33 <Sorgens> From /x/
  148. 2012-05-10T14:36:34 <Sorgens> Check canadian news, the metro (subway) in Montreal was smoke bombed today
  149. 2012-05-10T14:36:37 <jessie> Ah, okay. Sounds good.
  150. 2012-05-10T14:37:07 <iIIustrious> yeah, I saw that. It's probably part of the student protests, those have been going on for months there
  151. 2012-05-10T14:38:45 *** UmbraRumbra has quit IRC
  152. 2012-05-10T14:38:50 *** UmbraRumbra has joined #sift
  153. 2012-05-10T14:38:56 *** jessie changes topic to "Dox: http://bit.ly/KdjTxn || Logs: http://bit.ly/IWJcn2"
  154. 2012-05-10T14:39:04 <jessie> Mmm... Much cleaner links.
  155. 2012-05-10T14:39:21 <begedele> nice
  156. 2012-05-10T14:40:01 <Sorgens> Is that the same umbra pad as the one in #umbra?
  157. 2012-05-10T14:41:09 <jessie> Yes, it is.
  158. 2012-05-10T14:43:07 <marylamb_> alright...gotta bolt. later
  159. 2012-05-10T14:43:12 *** marylamb_ has quit IRC
  160. 2012-05-10T14:43:59 <jessie> Falk0r wants in. Yay or nay?
  161. 2012-05-10T14:44:32 <Sorgens> nay
  162. 2012-05-10T14:44:49 <jessie> Agreed.
  163. 2012-05-10T14:44:54 <Sorgens> I think that at this point, the password is pretty obvious, considering how fres the IRC transmission is atm.
  164. 2012-05-10T14:45:13 <iIIustrious> umm... yeah
  165. 2012-05-10T14:45:34 <iIIustrious> I just assumed it, and joined when people were talking about it
  166. 2012-05-10T14:46:31 <iIIustrious> I didn't realize it was an invite thing. lol. I could leave?
  167. 2012-05-10T14:46:39 *** UmbraRumbra has quit IRC
  168. 2012-05-10T14:46:42 *** UmbraRumbra has joined #sift
  169. 2012-05-10T14:46:54 <jessie> Not invite specifically, but a lot of people aren't able to figure it out.
  170. 2012-05-10T14:47:52 <iIIustrious> ll
  171. 2012-05-10T14:47:53 <iIIustrious> or
  172. 2012-05-10T14:47:55 <iIIustrious> kk
  173. 2012-05-10T14:48:03 <iIIustrious> is what I meant
  174. 2012-05-10T14:48:09 *** UmbraRumbra has quit IRC
  175. 2012-05-10T14:48:53 <jessie> We should get kegger in here.
  176. 2012-05-10T14:51:11 <begedele> yeah
  177. 2012-05-10T14:56:08 *** karma has quit IRC
  178. 2012-05-10T15:00:53 *** Sorgens has left #sift
  179. 2012-05-10T15:01:55 *** Sorgens has joined #sift
  180. 2012-05-10T15:22:11 <jeebus_> Um. They're gonna call Charon.
  181. 2012-05-10T15:22:44 <jessie> Yeah, didn't we already call?
  182. 2012-05-10T15:22:49 <jeebus_> The cats in #umbra
  183. 2012-05-10T15:22:59 <iIIustrious> yes, we did, but they don't know thta
  184. 2012-05-10T15:23:07 <jessie> Why don't we tell them?
  185. 2012-05-10T15:23:12 <jessie> We don't want to be annoying.
  186. 2012-05-10T15:23:36 <jeebus_> Someone wanna tell them not to bother and explain why. I can't while I'm at work.
  187. 2012-05-10T15:23:44 *** karma has joined #sift
  188. 2012-05-10T15:23:46 *** karma has left #sift
  189. 2012-05-10T15:23:50 <iIIustrious> just say that you already called?
  190. 2012-05-10T15:23:51 *** karma has joined #sift
  191. 2012-05-10T15:24:23 <jeebus_> But they'll ask what I said and I don't have time to run it down a half dozen times
  192. 2012-05-10T15:26:13 <jeebus_> I'd explain it to them all but boss is getting pissy about me on IRC on my phone when I'm supposed to be working on animals.
  193. 2012-05-10T15:26:50 <iIIustrious> yeah no problem. They say they talked to someone at it
  194. 2012-05-10T15:27:25 *** nignog has quit IRC
  195. 2012-05-10T15:27:31 <Sorgens> I don't think you have a boss. Enjoy hearing complaints from your teacher.
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  206. 2012-05-10T15:29:46 *** C1UMBRACharon has joined #sift
  207. 2012-05-10T15:30:01 <Sorgens> Hello
  208. 2012-05-10T15:30:06 <jeebus_> I call bullshit on them talking to someone.
  209. 2012-05-10T15:30:13 <begedele> Hello Charon
  210. 2012-05-10T15:30:21 <jessie> Agreed.
  211. 2012-05-10T15:31:05 <C1UMBRACharon> IRC transmission detailing new drop location is likely an ambush.
  212. 2012-05-10T15:31:36 <begedele> set up by whom?
  213. 2012-05-10T15:31:56 <C1UMBRACharon> Someone that doesn't like what you've been doing. Too early to tell.
  214. 2012-05-10T15:32:09 <Sorgens> Question: Are we SIFT?
  215. 2012-05-10T15:32:20 <C1UMBRACharon> You sure seem like you are.
  216. 2012-05-10T15:33:02 <jeebus_> cone umbra <[email protected]> Thu, May 10, 2012 at 2:25 PM
  217. 2012-05-10T15:33:04 <jeebus_> To: [email protected]
  218. 2012-05-10T15:33:04 <jeebus_> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original
  219. 2012-05-10T15:33:04 <jeebus_> Be advised, IRC transmission is not C1UMBRA.
  220. 2012-05-10T15:33:04 <jeebus_> Drop location likely an ambush.
  221. 2012-05-10T15:33:04 <jeebus_> Arrived in Okinawa, Japan. Can't even cover you if you wanted to go.
  222. 2012-05-10T15:33:05 <jeebus_> All legitimate transmissions will occur through regular channels only.
  223. 2012-05-10T15:33:05 <jeebus_> Continue to confirm all questionable material through c1umbra
  224. 2012-05-10T15:33:16 <jeebus_> Just got this email!
  225. 2012-05-10T15:33:20 <jeebus_> Oh...
  226. 2012-05-10T15:33:27 <C1UMBRACharon> Feel free to pull the headers off of it.
  227. 2012-05-10T15:33:39 <Sorgens> Is sift an acronym?
  228. 2012-05-10T15:34:08 <C1UMBRACharon> I'll ask Virgil sometime. I hear too many acronyms in a day to keep them all straight.
  229. 2012-05-10T15:34:22 <jessie> Is there going to be another drop?
  230. 2012-05-10T15:34:34 <C1UMBRACharon> Most likely, yes.
  231. 2012-05-10T15:34:54 <begedele> how many are you?
  232. 2012-05-10T15:34:55 <iIIustrious> Is there anything you need from us now?
  233. 2012-05-10T15:35:23 <C1UMBRACharon> Stay alert. Stay alive. Don't run off to every drop you see posted in a public IRC.
  234. 2012-05-10T15:35:44 <jeebus_> I've been telling them that.
  235. 2012-05-10T15:35:53 <C1UMBRACharon> Even better, if you DO, bring a friend and something that goes boom.
  236. 2012-05-10T15:36:10 <jeebus_> Always.
  237. 2012-05-10T15:36:35 <Sorgens> Any ideas as to who is the enemy and what is the suspect device?
  238. 2012-05-10T15:36:41 <begedele> So, what's the goal we/you are going for?
  239. 2012-05-10T15:36:49 <jeebus_> The goes boom part anyway.
  240. 2012-05-10T15:37:17 <C1UMBRACharon> Enemy is almost certainly a splinter of current day Aleph and appears to have KGB backing to some degree. Automatic weapons recovered thus far have been Soviet style for the most part with few exceptions.
  241. 2012-05-10T15:37:49 <C1UMBRACharon> That being said, their weapons aren't stock. Polymer bodies, rail systems. Attachments, in some cases.
  242. 2012-05-10T15:38:21 *** nignog has joined #sift
  243. 2012-05-10T15:38:41 <jeebus_> Anything special about the ammunition they use?
  244. 2012-05-10T15:38:52 <jessie> What is the enemy's target? What's the end goal?
  245. 2012-05-10T15:38:59 <C1UMBRACharon> Yeah, something in it makes them miss me all the time.
  246. 2012-05-10T15:39:25 <C1UMBRACharon> We're still trying to determine the nature of the suspect device. What it is, what it does, why they want to use it.
  247. 2012-05-10T15:39:39 <jeebus_> Fucking Charon can dodge bullets
  248. 2012-05-10T15:39:44 <C1UMBRACharon> All we know so far is that it "whispers" to some people. I don't hear it, my team doesn't hear it.
  249. 2012-05-10T15:40:10 <C1UMBRACharon> Have you been able to drum anything up on this?
  250. 2012-05-10T15:40:38 <jeebus_> Aums happy hats is the closest thing I think....
  251. 2012-05-10T15:40:40 <begedele> not yet
  252. 2012-05-10T15:40:52 <C1UMBRACharon> Happy hats?
  253. 2012-05-10T15:40:52 <jeebus_> But it doesn't quite fit
  254. 2012-05-10T15:41:03 <Sorgens> Some people were trying to make connections with the supposed sounds that have been heard throughout the world.
  255. 2012-05-10T15:41:14 <jessie> Humming and low frequency noises.
  256. 2012-05-10T15:41:22 <C1UMBRACharon> They're hearing it all over these days.
  257. 2012-05-10T15:41:29 <jessie> People have been trying to link those with some sort of 'earthquake' machine.
  258. 2012-05-10T15:41:40 <Sorgens> Happy hat is the way we refer to the hat from one of the SSTV images given in one of the transmissions.
  259. 2012-05-10T15:41:43 <begedele> but it has also been linked to an alien mothership
  260. 2012-05-10T15:42:08 <C1UMBRACharon> I doubt we're about to be playing Halo for real, so we can probably line that out.
  261. 2012-05-10T15:42:20 <jeebus_> Agreed.
  262. 2012-05-10T15:42:27 <begedele> yes
  263. 2012-05-10T15:42:54 <jeebus_> BTW, glad you got the channel Charon.
  264. 2012-05-10T15:43:06 <C1UMBRACharon> Glad you had the balls to make contact.
  265. 2012-05-10T15:43:37 <jessie> So we are not dealing with a game here. Correct?
  266. 2012-05-10T15:43:57 <Sorgens> Is it okay for you to reveal your faction (e.g. marines)?
  267. 2012-05-10T15:44:02 <C1UMBRACharon> In that we're dealing with multiple factions of people trying to force their will upon one another.
  268. 2012-05-10T15:44:34 <C1UMBRACharon> I'm not affiliated with any one particular branch. We receive support from all of them as we see fit.
  269. 2012-05-10T15:44:50 <jessie> Is the YouTube channel your groups?
  270. 2012-05-10T15:44:53 <C1UMBRACharon> Enough about me. I'm boring and hungover.
  271. 2012-05-10T15:45:12 <C1UMBRACharon> That's me.
  272. 2012-05-10T15:45:30 <C1UMBRACharon> I provide the info to Virgil. She makes it interesting and cuts out what I can't show.
  273. 2012-05-10T15:46:01 <jessie> Awesome. Will you be in contact again and in the future?
  274. 2012-05-10T15:46:27 <jessie> Specifically, through IRC.
  275. 2012-05-10T15:46:38 <jeebus_> Virgil is a she...
  276. 2012-05-10T15:46:42 <C1UMBRACharon> I'm your link to Virgil. We'll be in contact whenever you need to reach her, and I'll be watching unless I'm hurting something.
  277. 2012-05-10T15:46:58 <Sorgens> So no one is umbra, then.
  278. 2012-05-10T15:47:24 <Sorgens> Is umbra the name or the group or mission?
  279. 2012-05-10T15:47:28 <jeebus_> Umbra must be a mission designation.
  280. 2012-05-10T15:47:38 <C1UMBRACharon> Ol' Jeeb's onto it.
  281. 2012-05-10T15:48:12 <jeebus_> And we have an eclipse coming....related?
  282. 2012-05-10T15:48:49 <C1UMBRACharon> Crazy people have been using the moon and sun as an excuse to do crazy things since the dawn of time.
  283. 2012-05-10T15:49:05 <C1UMBRACharon> Our enemy's probably going to make it related.
  284. 2012-05-10T15:49:17 <jeebus_> Gotcha.
  285. 2012-05-10T15:49:19 <iIIustrious> giving us ten days
  286. 2012-05-10T15:49:27 <C1UMBRACharon> Just about.
  287. 2012-05-10T15:49:41 <C1UMBRACharon> Next part is kind of important.
  288. 2012-05-10T15:49:45 <jeebus_> Any idea what we can expect?
  289. 2012-05-10T15:50:20 <C1UMBRACharon> If we don't find out what that device does beforehand, I'm sure we'll figure it out when the eclipse goes down.
  290. 2012-05-10T15:50:34 <jeebus_> Shit.
  291. 2012-05-10T15:51:15 <C1UMBRACharon> We're monitoring enemy chatter in a couple of ways. They like to use multiple accounts on the internet to speak to one another (last year, they were using popular online video games).
  292. 2012-05-10T15:51:18 <begedele> What can we do to find the device?
  293. 2012-05-10T15:51:27 <jeebus_> Charon, if I call you back and leave my number, would that help?
  294. 2012-05-10T15:51:29 <C1UMBRACharon> Well, they're catching on that when they speak to each other online, we seem to find them and make them die.
  295. 2012-05-10T15:51:36 <C1UMBRACharon> For sure.
  296. 2012-05-10T15:51:53 <Sorgens> I assume you have secured one of the devices.
  297. 2012-05-10T15:52:00 <jeebus_> Then you can call me directly.
  298. 2012-05-10T15:52:10 <C1UMBRACharon> I dig it. Toss it at me, Jeeb.
  299. 2012-05-10T15:52:25 <C1UMBRACharon> We have one of the devices in tow after operations in the Philippines earlier this year.
  300. 2012-05-10T15:52:32 <Sorgens> Is it possible to get an SSTV of what they look like?
  301. 2012-05-10T15:52:34 <jeebus_> I'll call you in 5
  302. 2012-05-10T15:52:38 <C1UMBRACharon> I say "this year". I mean literally a couple of weeks ago.
  303. 2012-05-10T15:52:41 <C1UMBRACharon> Roger.
  304. 2012-05-10T15:53:07 <C1UMBRACharon> I'll drum it up. The Air Force still has mine right now, but I'll get the flight crew to grab some myspace pictures with it.
  305. 2012-05-10T15:53:21 <begedele> thanks
  306. 2012-05-10T15:54:11 <nignog> How did you find out they used video games as communication?
  307. 2012-05-10T15:54:46 <C1UMBRACharon> When their mail accounts started filling up with phishing attempts.
  308. 2012-05-10T15:55:01 <nignog> ah
  309. 2012-05-10T15:55:33 <C1UMBRACharon> Was that you, Jeeb?
  310. 2012-05-10T15:56:41 <jeebus_> Negative. Calling now.
  311. 2012-05-10T15:57:11 <C1UMBRACharon> The "giving my number out to everyone" award goes straight to Virg.
  312. 2012-05-10T15:57:35 <jessie> Seriously. The people in #umbra are being cunts.
  313. 2012-05-10T15:57:46 <nignog> So are you the guy recording in the videos, on c1umbra channel?
  314. 2012-05-10T15:58:00 <jessie> Apparently maya is trying to call now.
  315. 2012-05-10T15:59:45 <C1UMBRACharon> That's right, Nog.
  316. 2012-05-10T15:59:51 <jeebus_> Um. I talked to him. Gave him my number.
  317. 2012-05-10T16:00:39 <jessie> Awesome.
  318. 2012-05-10T16:00:44 <C1UMBRACharon> I'm dipping out for now. Gonna hit the armory, give the weapon some much-needed attention.
  319. 2012-05-10T16:00:51 <Sorgens> What do you use?
  320. 2012-05-10T16:00:56 <jessie> M4?
  321. 2012-05-10T16:00:59 <Sorgens> M4A1?
  322. 2012-05-10T16:01:01 <C1UMBRACharon> I've got a couple of options right now.
  323. 2012-05-10T16:01:15 <jeebus_> I, uh, I'm not so sure this is an arg anymore.
  324. 2012-05-10T16:01:15 <C1UMBRACharon> I've got the M4A1 with rail system and RCO
  325. 2012-05-10T16:01:29 <C1UMBRACharon> PEQ16 and pressure grip
  326. 2012-05-10T16:01:32 <begedele> the one we saw in the vid
  327. 2012-05-10T16:01:36 <jessie> jeebus_: No shit, you and me both. I am trying to keep my composure at work.
  328. 2012-05-10T16:01:37 <begedele> the M4
  329. 2012-05-10T16:01:37 <jeebus_> Yup.
  330. 2012-05-10T16:01:37 <C1UMBRACharon> YEah.
  331. 2012-05-10T16:01:40 <C1UMBRACharon> That's my baby.
  332. 2012-05-10T16:01:46 <iIIustrious> Also, what should we be trusting, just the transmissions and you, for now?
  333. 2012-05-10T16:01:49 <jeebus_> Me too Jessie.
  334. 2012-05-10T16:01:55 <C1UMBRACharon> I've got the AK47 I pulled out of the philippines
  335. 2012-05-10T16:02:10 <C1UMBRACharon> And finally an older model M4 dropped by a FilMar out there.
  336. 2012-05-10T16:02:27 <C1UMBRACharon> Transmissions from C1Umbra are legitimate.
  337. 2012-05-10T16:02:32 <C1UMBRACharon> Anything I tell you is legitimate.
  338. 2012-05-10T16:02:52 <jeebus_> God help me, I believe him.
  339. 2012-05-10T16:03:00 <C1UMBRACharon> Be advised that there are ways of making correspondence appear as though it's coming from me.
  340. 2012-05-10T16:03:08 <jessie> All excellent weapons. Looks like I am going to be sleeping with the M14 tonight.
  341. 2012-05-10T16:03:12 <jessie> Also, what is wetworks?
  342. 2012-05-10T16:03:13 <C1UMBRACharon> If the info doesn't seem right, check your sources.
  343. 2012-05-10T16:03:29 <jeebus_> Wait, what is the tune you whistle on you voice mail?
  344. 2012-05-10T16:03:35 <jeebus_> Copy that.
  345. 2012-05-10T16:03:47 <Sorgens> So the best way of contacting you at the moment is through the number?
  346. 2012-05-10T16:04:12 <jeebus_> Wetworks is a kill team if I'm not mistaken.
  347. 2012-05-10T16:04:24 <jessie> Friendly or enemy, that's the question.
  348. 2012-05-10T16:04:33 <jessie> Sounds like friendly.
  349. 2012-05-10T16:04:43 <begedele> wow Charon she looks shocked ^^
  350. 2012-05-10T16:04:45 <C1UMBRACharon> Charlie Chaplain, Peace Patrol
  351. 2012-05-10T16:04:59 <begedele> she set up a livestream webcam recording the call
  352. 2012-05-10T16:05:04 <C1UMBRACharon> We saw.
  353. 2012-05-10T16:05:05 <nignog> haha, she was scared
  354. 2012-05-10T16:05:13 <jeebus_> Fuck. I HAD heard it before.
  355. 2012-05-10T16:05:30 <C1UMBRACharon> Great song, considering what's going on.
  356. 2012-05-10T16:05:50 <C1UMBRACharon> I gotta roll. Can't miss the hatch time.
  357. 2012-05-10T16:05:57 <C1UMBRACharon> Stay classy, Sift.
  358. 2012-05-10T16:05:59 <begedele> right, see you
  359. 2012-05-10T16:06:07 <nignog> Alright, take care
  360. 2012-05-10T16:06:12 <Sorgens> Good luck
  361. 2012-05-10T16:06:13 *** C1UMBRACharon has quit IRC
  362. 2012-05-10T16:06:16 <jeebus_> Call me a pussy but I hope to god this isn't real.
  363. 2012-05-10T16:06:28 <nignog> shit just got too real
  364. 2012-05-10T16:06:37 <begedele> well... i really can't tell right now
  365. 2012-05-10T16:06:47 <begedele> suddenly seems really real
  366. 2012-05-10T16:06:52 <nignog> agreed
  367. 2012-05-10T16:06:59 <jessie> Well fuck me running.
  368. 2012-05-10T16:07:09 <begedele> let's wait for the promised pictures of the device
  369. 2012-05-10T16:07:10 <Sorgens> Jessie got his time
  370. 2012-05-10T16:07:18 <Sorgens> I was the same time zone as Japan
  371. 2012-05-10T16:07:30 <nignog> Alright, should we keep silent about this convo with charon?
  372. 2012-05-10T16:07:31 <jessie> Correct. Everything is looking pretty legit.
  373. 2012-05-10T16:07:38 <jessie> nignog: For now, yes.
  374. 2012-05-10T16:07:48 <jeebus_> Yes. Fucking yes.
  375. 2012-05-10T16:07:57 <Sorgens> The other channel already knows that the irc is fake
  376. 2012-05-10T16:08:01 <jessie> The details of the conversation are confidential.
  377. 2012-05-10T16:08:02 <Sorgens> so there is no need to tell anything else
  378. 2012-05-10T16:08:06 <jessie> Exactly.
  379. 2012-05-10T16:08:16 <nignog> agree
  380. 2012-05-10T16:08:18 <iIIustrious> deal
  381. 2012-05-10T16:08:27 <jeebus_> This isn't arg tactics.
  382. 2012-05-10T16:08:32 <jessie> We ought to get Kegland in here.
  383. 2012-05-10T16:08:48 <jessie> Is there anyone else that should be in here?
  384. 2012-05-10T16:08:49 <Sorgens> Humean
  385. 2012-05-10T16:08:53 <jessie> Yes.
  386. 2012-05-10T16:08:57 <jeebus_> Yes. Him.
  387. 2012-05-10T16:09:02 <begedele> yay
  388. 2012-05-10T16:09:16 <jessie> Somebody want to take care of that?
  389. 2012-05-10T16:09:19 <jeebus_> He needs to know to STFU about this though.
  390. 2012-05-10T16:09:30 <begedele> Humean is friends with fflaguna
  391. 2012-05-10T16:09:31 <jeebus_> Not it.
  392. 2012-05-10T16:09:54 <begedele> so i guess he will know
  393. 2012-05-10T16:09:54 <jeebus_> Then keep him out for now.
  394. 2012-05-10T16:09:55 <nignog> we should be careful
  395. 2012-05-10T16:10:23 <begedele> and we should change the password
  396. 2012-05-10T16:10:32 <nignog> yea
  397. 2012-05-10T16:10:41 <begedele> because it is really obvious and hints are all over the umbra channel logs
  398. 2012-05-10T16:10:51 <iIIustrious> and it's in the fake message
  399. 2012-05-10T16:11:03 <nignog> what should we change it to?
  400. 2012-05-10T16:11:03 <jessie> Yup. PM it. We've got logs on this channel. I am going to go about password protecting said logs.
  401. 2012-05-10T16:11:55 <jeebus_> Email me the password please when completed.
  402. 2012-05-10T16:12:33 <begedele> hmm
  403. 2012-05-10T16:12:44 <jeebus_> I gotta get to work and calm down for a bit.
  404. 2012-05-10T16:12:57 <Sorgens> Gotta go eat something.
  405. 2012-05-10T16:13:00 <begedele> sure
  406. 2012-05-10T16:13:13 <Sorgens> Seems like we hit a dead end for this afternoon other than discussing.
  407. 2012-05-10T16:13:44 <Sorgens> Send me an email with the new pass, please: [email protected]
  408. 2012-05-10T16:14:37 <iIIustrious> who's channel is it, to change the pass? and is email how we should distribute it?
  409. 2012-05-10T16:14:57 <nignog> why not just write it here?
  410. 2012-05-10T16:15:06 <jessie> begedele's channel, though jeebus_, nnothingg, and I have OPs as well.
  411. 2012-05-10T16:15:10 <jessie> nignog: Public logs, ATM.
  412. 2012-05-10T16:15:13 <jessie> Soon to be fixed.
  413. 2012-05-10T16:15:14 <nignog> oh
  414. 2012-05-10T16:15:19 <karma> this is becoming convoluted :P
  415. 2012-05-10T16:15:19 <Sorgens> Well, I'm gonna go offline, so having it on my (troll/fake) email inbox would be nice.
  416. 2012-05-10T16:15:19 <iIIustrious> because right now the logs aren't locked
  417. 2012-05-10T16:15:30 <jeebus_> Ops?
  418. 2012-05-10T16:15:41 <begedele> Sorgens you're on my mailing list
  419. 2012-05-10T16:15:49 <Sorgens> I had op too, but got disconnected and lost it.
  420. 2012-05-10T16:15:51 <Sorgens> Okee, thanks
  421. 2012-05-10T16:16:03 <begedele> should be op again when rejoining
  422. 2012-05-10T16:16:10 <nignog> Can I get in on that mailin list?
  423. 2012-05-10T16:16:45 <jessie> Okay, fixed.
  424. 2012-05-10T16:16:45 <begedele> sure can do. just give me your adress or any [email protected]
  425. 2012-05-10T16:16:55 <nignog> here or pm?
  426. 2012-05-10T16:16:59 <jessie> Here.
  427. 2012-05-10T16:17:06 <jessie> The logs are now password protected.
  428. 2012-05-10T16:17:08 <iIIustrious> if email's how we're doing it, [email protected] will work for me
  429. 2012-05-10T16:17:10 <jessie> Username: sift
  430. 2012-05-10T16:17:14 <nignog> [email protected]
  431. 2012-05-10T16:17:14 <jessie> Password: wohSei6I
  432. 2012-05-10T16:17:18 <nignog> no wait
  433. 2012-05-10T16:17:39 <karma> [email protected] :D
  434. 2012-05-10T16:17:43 <begedele> [email protected]
  435. 2012-05-10T16:17:49 <nignog> I dont know if they use tormail.net or. org now
  436. 2012-05-10T16:18:06 <Sorgens> Okay... I'll be back later. Fear does not fear does not fear does not fear
  437. 2012-05-10T16:18:23 <jessie> [email protected]
  438. 2012-05-10T16:18:28 <jeebus_> Fear does not
  439. 2012-05-10T16:18:52 <jeebus_> [email protected]
  440. 2012-05-10T16:20:43 <iIIustrious> yeah, I'm out for a bit too. talk to you all soon
  441. 2012-05-10T16:20:47 <begedele> what would i have to dial to reach charon from germany?
  442. 2012-05-10T16:20:52 *** iIIustrious is now known as iIIustrious-away
  443. 2012-05-10T16:22:31 *** Sorgens has quit IRC
  444. 2012-05-10T16:26:01 <nignog> [email protected]
  445. 2012-05-10T16:27:10 <begedele> k
  446. 2012-05-10T16:30:05 <nignog> So they had the device right? and they're gonna try and get a sstv up
  447. 2012-05-10T16:31:09 <begedele> <C1UMBRACharon> We have one of the devices in tow after operations in the Philippines earlier this year.
  448. 2012-05-10T16:31:09 <begedele> <Sorgens> Is it possible to get an SSTV of what they look like?
  449. 2012-05-10T16:31:14 <begedele> <C1UMBRACharon> Roger.
  450. 2012-05-10T16:31:47 <begedele> <C1UMBRACharon> I'll drum it up. The Air Force still has mine right now, but I'll get the flight crew to grab some myspace pictures with it.
  451. 2012-05-10T16:33:46 <jessie> Woo. I'm curious to see what it is.
  452. 2012-05-10T16:33:56 <nignog> yea same,
  453. 2012-05-10T16:35:09 <nignog> why do you guys think they are communicating with us /the public)? How many governments even know about this
  454. 2012-05-10T16:36:31 <begedele> that's what i was thinking all the time
  455. 2012-05-10T16:37:00 <jessie> I am not sure if it is even official. Charon and Virgil may be doing this covertly.
  456. 2012-05-10T16:37:17 <nignog> yep, that's a possiblity
  457. 2012-05-10T16:37:19 <jessie> Though this does seem slightly beyond your average military member.
  458. 2012-05-10T16:38:30 <nignog> He didn't answer how many they were
  459. 2012-05-10T16:38:53 <nignog> But I guess there must be a couple more, if they are going to make drops in EU too
  460. 2012-05-10T16:39:15 <jessie> True. God damn. I don't know if this is fake any more.
  461. 2012-05-10T16:39:46 <nignog> well, its on the border between border and real. If they make a drop in EU, then I'll say it's real
  462. 2012-05-10T16:40:00 <nignog> border=ARG
  463. 2012-05-10T16:40:07 <nignog> too tired lol
  464. 2012-05-10T16:40:23 <jessie> Yeah, EU, it either becomes one hell of an ARG, or it's real.
  465. 2012-05-10T16:41:18 <begedele> [23:43] <Sorgens> Is it okay for you to reveal your faction (e.g. marines)?
  466. 2012-05-10T16:41:18 <begedele> [23:43] <C1UMBRACharon> In that we're dealing with multiple factions of people trying to force their will upon one another.
  467. 2012-05-10T16:41:18 <begedele> [23:44] <C1UMBRACharon> I'm not affiliated with any one particular branch. We receive support from all of them as we see fit.
  468. 2012-05-10T16:41:18 <begedele> [23:44] <@jessie> Is the YouTube channel your groups?
  469. 2012-05-10T16:41:18 <begedele> [23:44] <C1UMBRACharon> Enough about me. I'm boring and hungover.
  470. 2012-05-10T16:41:18 <nignog> But if this is an ARG, I gotta applaud them for the effort, most well done ARG so far
  471. 2012-05-10T16:42:07 <jessie> By far and away. A drop in CA, continuing communications, etc.
  472. 2012-05-10T16:43:27 <nignog> omg, the other chat
  473. 2012-05-10T16:43:47 <nignog> atleast some of them say dont call him again
  474. 2012-05-10T16:44:10 <begedele> yes they've gone nuts
  475. 2012-05-10T16:44:14 <jessie> I know, they are such clowns.
  476. 2012-05-10T16:47:04 <begedele> We receive support from all of them as we see fit. <- sounds as if umbra were the ones giving order
  477. 2012-05-10T16:48:04 <jessie> True. So we are another additional group that he has at his disposal?
  478. 2012-05-10T16:48:43 <begedele> maybe. but why do they need us if they have access to military etc.
  479. 2012-05-10T16:50:33 <jeebus_> So they can monitor enemy activity and strength because they're monitoring us...
  480. 2012-05-10T16:51:04 <jessie> I don't know, we should ask him next time we are in contact.
  481. 2012-05-10T16:51:07 <jeebus_> They being enemy forces.
  482. 2012-05-10T16:52:13 <jeebus_> If this is an ARG it's one of the best I've ever seen.
  483. 2012-05-10T16:52:21 <nignog> by far
  484. 2012-05-10T16:53:07 <jessie> And then some.
  485. 2012-05-10T16:53:40 <nignog> but it's strange it hasn't gathered more attention, remeber the cicada 3301 thing? there were thousands of people on it
  486. 2012-05-10T16:55:34 <jessie> The slight encryption makes the barrier to entry a lot higher.
  487. 2012-05-10T16:55:58 *** marylamb has joined #sift
  488. 2012-05-10T16:56:14 <marylamb> umbra council hi
  489. 2012-05-10T16:56:30 <jessie> You missed big shit, marylamb
  490. 2012-05-10T16:56:50 <marylamb> oh yeah
  491. 2012-05-10T16:56:51 <marylamb> ?
  492. 2012-05-10T16:56:53 <jessie> Go read the logs.
  493. 2012-05-10T16:56:55 <marylamb> do tell
  494. 2012-05-10T16:56:58 <jessie> From about an hour and a half ago.
  495. 2012-05-10T16:57:11 <jessie> [16:17] <jessie> Username: sift
  496. 2012-05-10T16:57:12 <jessie> [16:17] <jessie> Password: wohSei6I
  497. 2012-05-10T16:57:14 <marylamb> its asking for a password
  498. 2012-05-10T16:57:15 <nignog> the cicada was much harder, we had to decrypt RSA
  499. 2012-05-10T16:57:17 <marylamb> ah
  500. 2012-05-10T16:57:20 <marylamb> thanks
  501. 2012-05-10T16:57:35 <jessie> nignog: Ah, really? I am not familiar with cicada.
  502. 2012-05-10T16:57:53 <marylamb> another game
  503. 2012-05-10T16:57:53 <jessie> marylamb: We have reason to believe that is the real, legit Umbra.
  504. 2012-05-10T16:57:58 <marylamb> give me the condensed version
  505. 2012-05-10T16:58:09 <nignog> http://wiki.n0v4.com/index.php/3301:Cicada
  506. 2012-05-10T16:58:27 <jessie> marylamb: The condensed on the messages?
  507. 2012-05-10T16:58:35 <marylamb> if you could
  508. 2012-05-10T16:58:39 <marylamb> i'm scrolling through now
  509. 2012-05-10T16:58:45 <marylamb> it looks like umbra came here?
  510. 2012-05-10T16:58:48 <jessie> Correct.
  511. 2012-05-10T16:59:01 <jessie> Then jeebus_ called and there was contact. In #umbra there was a live stream of a call as well.
  512. 2012-05-10T16:59:17 <jessie> He said a lot of interesting things, said the previous IRC messages were fake.
  513. 2012-05-10T16:59:31 <jeebus_> That way Maya who called right?
  514. 2012-05-10T16:59:38 <jessie> Yes.
  515. 2012-05-10T16:59:42 <nignog> I wonder if its just a troll, or its the bad guys
  516. 2012-05-10T16:59:58 <jessie> jeebus_ also received an email from Umbra.
  517. 2012-05-10T17:00:09 <jessie> Actually, what I am calling Umbra should be Charon.
  518. 2012-05-10T17:00:17 <jessie> Charon is his name, Umbra is the operation's name.
  519. 2012-05-10T17:00:27 <jessie> Aka, Mission Umbra.
  520. 2012-05-10T17:00:27 <marylamb> well whatever...no need to throw the nomeclature out
  521. 2012-05-10T17:01:15 <marylamb> hm far out just made it to the end
  522. 2012-05-10T17:01:26 <jessie> He said that there will be additional drops.
  523. 2012-05-10T17:01:36 <jessie> Be careful, don't trust people that we are not sure about.
  524. 2012-05-10T17:01:51 <jessie> You should get begedele your email. We are going to be changing the IRC pass soon.
  525. 2012-05-10T17:02:07 <begedele> yes please
  526. 2012-05-10T17:02:35 <marylamb> ah
  527. 2012-05-10T17:03:25 <nignog> "dealing with multiple factions of people trying to force their will upon one another." think this is related to NWO?
  528. 2012-05-10T17:04:32 <marylamb> wait, is this being discussed in the chan too?
  529. 2012-05-10T17:04:44 <begedele> nope
  530. 2012-05-10T17:04:48 <marylamb> ah ok
  531. 2012-05-10T17:04:59 <jessie> Keeping this conversation silent, atm.
  532. 2012-05-10T17:05:11 <marylamb> silent always
  533. 2012-05-10T17:05:15 <begedele> we should not trust anyone
  534. 2012-05-10T17:05:16 <marylamb> imo
  535. 2012-05-10T17:05:49 <jessie> Agreed to both. There is a lot of interesting and questionable stuff going on.
  536. 2012-05-10T17:05:59 <jessie> My gun will be nearby me as I sleep tonight.
  537. 2012-05-10T17:06:23 <nignog> this is just blown up so quickly, I dont know how I will be able to sleep tonight
  538. 2012-05-10T17:06:30 <marylamb> oh
  539. 2012-05-10T17:06:34 <marylamb> its not like that
  540. 2012-05-10T17:06:43 <marylamb> we can trust anyone, but when we started blowing this up
  541. 2012-05-10T17:06:49 <marylamb> including too many people
  542. 2012-05-10T17:06:54 <marylamb> the game got kinda lost
  543. 2012-05-10T17:07:02 <nnothingg> yes
  544. 2012-05-10T17:07:07 <nnothingg> what ahppeenened
  545. 2012-05-10T17:07:34 <marylamb> well, you just get a lot of knuckleheads
  546. 2012-05-10T17:07:43 <marylamb> too many cooks in the kitchen
  547. 2012-05-10T17:07:57 <marylamb> fake messages in the irc, etc...
  548. 2012-05-10T17:08:14 <begedele> it's 1:07am already and i have to work tomorrow. I really don't know how to sleep now
  549. 2012-05-10T17:08:29 <jessie> Pills? Booze? Both?
  550. 2012-05-10T17:08:33 <marylamb> begedele: the same way you always do brother
  551. 2012-05-10T17:08:38 <marylamb> i prefer booze
  552. 2012-05-10T17:08:49 <nignog> Some part of me feels like this is real, and something big is going to happen
  553. 2012-05-10T17:08:58 <begedele> :-) booze sounds good
  554. 2012-05-10T17:09:07 <marylamb> lol
  555. 2012-05-10T17:09:13 <marylamb> having beers myself
  556. 2012-05-10T17:09:19 <jessie> Yeah, I'm going to need some for tonight too. Fucking Canadian Hunter it is.
  557. 2012-05-10T17:09:22 <marylamb> karma and i gonna toke up
  558. 2012-05-10T17:09:59 <marylamb> this might just be my position: this is a game, have fun, avoid paranoia
  559. 2012-05-10T17:10:27 <begedele> i'm gonna toke up one for you guys marylamb
  560. 2012-05-10T17:10:33 <marylamb> lol
  561. 2012-05-10T17:11:52 <jeebus_> Okay, kinda convinced myself this is an arg again.
  562. 2012-05-10T17:11:54 <begedele> but beer for now
  563. 2012-05-10T17:12:00 <begedele> prost!
  564. 2012-05-10T17:12:04 <nignog> convince me
  565. 2012-05-10T17:12:07 <nignog> jeebus
  566. 2012-05-10T17:12:22 <nignog> please, so i can sleep
  567. 2012-05-10T17:12:25 <marylamb> lol
  568. 2012-05-10T17:12:35 <marylamb> nignog: it operates the same way all ARGs do
  569. 2012-05-10T17:12:40 <jeebus_> He repeated the same things to Maya that he said in chat.
  570. 2012-05-10T17:12:53 <marylamb> its a good ARG...they never acknowledge anything but that they are real
  571. 2012-05-10T17:13:11 <marylamb> oh, what was said to maya?
  572. 2012-05-10T17:13:15 <jeebus_> The "fake" transmissions are coded the exact same way the real ones are.
  573. 2012-05-10T17:13:45 <jeebus_> Regarding charon, what he said was like a script
  574. 2012-05-10T17:13:45 <marylamb> nignog: a real covert operative functioning this way would lose his job or die
  575. 2012-05-10T17:13:59 <jeebus_> Watch the video of Mayas call
  576. 2012-05-10T17:14:07 <nignog> hm
  577. 2012-05-10T17:14:09 <jeebus_> He says the same thing he typed.
  578. 2012-05-10T17:14:16 <marylamb> ah
  579. 2012-05-10T17:14:29 <nignog> what did he say in the end=
  580. 2012-05-10T17:14:30 <marylamb> check out the big brain on jeebus :)
  581. 2012-05-10T17:14:39 <jeebus_> Listen to how he answers her arg question. Like he's reading it.
  582. 2012-05-10T17:14:50 <jeebus_> I have to believe this.
  583. 2012-05-10T17:15:26 <jeebus_> Otherwise, my family could be in legitimate danger.
  584. 2012-05-10T17:16:38 <marylamb> don't worry jeebus_
  585. 2012-05-10T17:16:42 <marylamb> not like that
  586. 2012-05-10T17:17:43 <nignog> what does he say when she ask if its ARG?
  587. 2012-05-10T17:17:55 <marylamb> why don't you sit on my face
  588. 2012-05-10T17:17:58 <jessie> Same thing he said when I asked if it is a game.
  589. 2012-05-10T17:17:58 <marylamb> kinda obscene
  590. 2012-05-10T17:17:59 <marylamb> imo
  591. 2012-05-10T17:18:04 <begedele> so what do we change the channels password to? and how do we inform charon? should i just write an e-mail to [email protected]?
  592. 2012-05-10T17:18:32 <marylamb> yeah
  593. 2012-05-10T17:18:33 <jessie> "In that we're dealing with multiple factions of people trying to force their will upon one another."
  594. 2012-05-10T17:19:26 <jessie> begedele: Yes, I think that would be a good thing. And we should change it to a fairly random password.
  595. 2012-05-10T17:20:30 <jessie> Well all, I am out. You have my email, and I should be in this channel so long as the password doesn't change.
  596. 2012-05-10T17:20:51 <nignog> i cant acess the logs
  597. 2012-05-10T17:21:12 <marylamb> did you see the pass above?
  598. 2012-05-10T17:21:17 <marylamb> alright jessie
  599. 2012-05-10T17:21:30 <marylamb> keep this open just so you can come and go
  600. 2012-05-10T17:21:44 *** begedele sets mode: -k *
  601. 2012-05-10T17:21:44 *** begedele sets mode: +k Amzmxmw9
  602. 2012-05-10T17:21:44 *** ChanServ sets mode: +k fivetomidnight
  603. 2012-05-10T17:21:44 *** ChanServ sets mode: -k *
  604. 2012-05-10T17:21:44 *** ChanServ sets mode: +k fivetomidnight
  605. 2012-05-10T17:21:53 <jessie> Well, it's on my laptop and I move my laptop a lot.
  606. 2012-05-10T17:21:57 <marylamb> oh
  607. 2012-05-10T17:22:29 <nignog> ah yea
  608. 2012-05-10T17:22:43 <jessie> See ya guys.
  609. 2012-05-10T17:22:48 <marylamb> later skater
  610. 2012-05-10T17:23:53 <jeebus_> Finishing my thoughts from before: he also mentioned that virgil is a she. Anyone else catch that?
  611. 2012-05-10T17:24:15 <begedele> yes
  612. 2012-05-10T17:24:29 <marylamb> well thats who's reading the numbers
  613. 2012-05-10T17:25:50 <jeebus_> Responding 2 or 3 different times the exact same way to similar questions says script to me.
  614. 2012-05-10T17:25:54 *** ChanServ sets mode: -k *
  615. 2012-05-10T17:25:54 *** ChanServ sets mode: +k Amzmxmw9
  616. 2012-05-10T17:26:07 <begedele> k you see the new key
  617. 2012-05-10T17:26:20 <begedele> i'll send an e-mail to everybody anyways
  618. 2012-05-10T17:26:33 <jeebus_> Good thank you.
  619. 2012-05-10T17:27:05 <nignog> did you catch what he said after, "negative its most likely an ambush"?
  620. 2012-05-10T17:27:20 *** jessie has quit IRC
  621. 2012-05-10T17:27:52 <begedele> Someone that doesn't like what you've been doing. Too early to tell.
  622. 2012-05-10T17:28:14 <nignog> it sounds like he says something wrong and corrects it
  623. 2012-05-10T17:28:29 <nignog> but I cant quite get what he says, something about body it sounds
  624. 2012-05-10T17:28:29 <begedele> Or he doesnt know yet
  625. 2012-05-10T17:28:50 <begedele> ah you mean the phone call
  626. 2012-05-10T17:28:53 <nignog> yea
  627. 2012-05-10T17:29:59 <marylamb> i don't want to fault him for it being a game though...they're obviously investing a lot of time
  628. 2012-05-10T17:30:12 <jeebus_> Christ I hope its a script...
  629. 2012-05-10T17:30:26 <jeebus_> Afk guys
  630. 2012-05-10T17:30:34 <nignog> its strange he answer about the factions he wrote to us here, when she asked if its an ARG
  631. 2012-05-10T17:30:50 <marylamb> hm
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  634. 2012-05-10T17:34:41 <marylamb> ok, just wanted to make sure it didn't show up if we were in here
  635. 2012-05-10T17:38:44 *** marylamb has quit IRC
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  638. 2012-05-10T17:57:07 <nignog> any new thoughts, jeebus_?
  639. 2012-05-10T17:57:31 <jeebus_> A thousand a second right now.
  640. 2012-05-10T17:58:05 <jeebus_> As soon as I get them in line, I'll share them bro.
  641. 2012-05-10T17:58:13 <jeebus_> :)
  642. 2012-05-10T17:58:35 <nnothingg> nuh
  643. 2012-05-10T17:58:35 <nignog> awesome :D
  644. 2012-05-10T17:58:36 <nnothingg> tell us
  645. 2012-05-10T17:58:37 <nnothingg> lol
  646. 2012-05-10T17:58:55 <nnothingg> just.....release;]
  647. 2012-05-10T17:58:56 <jeebus_> Btw I'm gonna send Charon the new password for this channel.
  648. 2012-05-10T17:59:06 <nnothingg> who?
  649. 2012-05-10T17:59:14 <nnothingg> what the hell hppened when i was gone
  650. 2012-05-10T17:59:29 <begedele> i already did jeeb
  651. 2012-05-10T17:59:33 <jeebus_> Bro, shit got fucking scary real.
  652. 2012-05-10T17:59:38 <jeebus_> Okay cool.
  653. 2012-05-10T17:59:58 <nnothingg> not bullshit me
  654. 2012-05-10T18:00:08 <jeebus_> Not even.
  655. 2012-05-10T18:00:13 <nnothingg> then?
  656. 2012-05-10T18:01:02 <jeebus_> Remember I was all " this is an arg, this is an arg?" Yeah well I'm not so sure anymore and I'm still kinda freaked out.
  657. 2012-05-10T18:01:19 <nnothingg> oh cause the invitation to mansion bs?
  658. 2012-05-10T18:01:31 <jeebus_> No. That's fake
  659. 2012-05-10T18:01:43 <nnothingg> oh wlel i missed some shit then
  660. 2012-05-10T18:01:48 <nnothingg> so why do you think this then
  661. 2012-05-10T18:01:50 <nignog> yep, charon was in here
  662. 2012-05-10T18:02:04 <nnothingg> hm
  663. 2012-05-10T18:02:32 <jeebus_> Someone please paste Charon convo with us for nnothingg.
  664. 2012-05-10T18:03:00 <begedele> but please keep silence to #umbra for now nnothingg
  665. 2012-05-10T18:03:07 <nignog> http://bit.ly/IWJcn2] Password: wohSei6I
  666. 2012-05-10T18:03:16 <nnothingg> right
  667. 2012-05-10T18:03:18 <nignog> user: suft
  668. 2012-05-10T18:03:20 <nignog> sift
  669. 2012-05-10T18:04:49 <nnothingg> kluge is gunna shit a brick;]
  670. 2012-05-10T18:05:37 <nnothingg> i like that jeebus_ is freaked out too :)
  671. 2012-05-10T18:06:13 <nignog> he was calm before when he thought it was an ARG, Im awaiting his thoughts on what changed
  672. 2012-05-10T18:12:28 <nnothingg> i got real problems with jeebus_ approach to this
  673. 2012-05-10T18:12:50 <nnothingg> he's the one doing eveything... plus he didnt even record the phone call
  674. 2012-05-10T18:14:00 <nignog> well if we got other drops, which he said, then we know jeebus is legit :)
  675. 2012-05-10T18:14:01 <jeebus_> Charon knew too much. I have no doubt he's military. Or that he's currently in Japan. But my brain keeps saying 'script, script, script,' although, and I'm being honest here; I AM paranoid about many things. Shadow government, shit like that.
  676. 2012-05-10T18:15:02 <begedele> http://www.brookings.edu/opinions/2012/0305_drones_philippines_ahmed.aspx?utm_source=TomDispatch&utm_campaign=8f7a057537-TD_Klare5_10_2012&utm_medium=email
  677. 2012-05-10T18:15:08 <jeebus_> This whole thing is one of the most complex and straight faced args I've ever seen and I monitor/play quite a few
  678. 2012-05-10T18:15:19 <begedele> just stumbled upton this
  679. 2012-05-10T18:15:27 <begedele> don't know if it's related
  680. 2012-05-10T18:15:37 <begedele> but he said something about the pilippines
  681. 2012-05-10T18:16:12 <nignog> well, im off
  682. 2012-05-10T18:16:15 *** nignog has quit IRC
  683. 2012-05-10T18:16:31 <jeebus_> That's where got one of his rifles.
  684. 2012-05-10T18:17:59 <begedele> [23:52] <C1UMBRACharon> We have one of the devices in tow after operations in the Philippines earlier this year.
  685. 2012-05-10T18:18:08 <begedele> [23:52] <C1UMBRACharon> I say "this year". I mean literally a couple of weeks ago.
  686. 2012-05-10T18:18:50 <begedele> the article begins with Early last month...
  687. 2012-05-10T18:31:28 <nnothingg> You better hope their ciphers dont get any stronger;] i mean there is a level of interest and fun to breaking more difficult ones but their us of AES is alarming, we got lucky.
  688. 2012-05-10T18:32:58 <begedele> yes if they use a stronger password with aes, we are screwed
  689. 2012-05-10T18:33:21 <begedele> but there were always hints in the transmissions
  690. 2012-05-10T18:33:25 <iIIustrious-away> as it was 128 AES, you can write a script that will typically get it open in a few hours, so more of those will be fine
  691. 2012-05-10T18:33:31 <iIIustrious-away> it's if they get much worse
  692. 2012-05-10T18:33:36 *** iIIustrious-away is now known as iIIustrious
  693. 2012-05-10T18:34:07 <nnothingg> ;]
  694. 2012-05-10T18:49:56 *** marylamb has joined #sift
  695. 2012-05-10T18:51:16 <marylamb> hey
  696. 2012-05-10T18:51:49 <nnothingg> hi
  697. 2012-05-10T18:52:03 <marylamb> how it goes
  698. 2012-05-10T18:52:15 <nnothingg> slow i suppose
  699. 2012-05-10T18:52:39 <marylamb> yeah, it should till tomorrow
  700. 2012-05-10T18:52:47 <nnothingg> yuh
  701. 2012-05-10T19:03:05 <marylamb> alright, gonna tcb
  702. 2012-05-10T19:03:10 <marylamb> later
  703. 2012-05-10T19:03:19 *** marylamb has left #sift
  704. 2012-05-10T19:13:18 <begedele> i'm going to bed
  705. 2012-05-10T19:13:31 <begedele> see ya tomorrow
  706. 2012-05-10T19:13:37 *** begedele has quit IRC
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  708. 2012-05-10T19:18:21 <jeebus_> I wanna bring in one more if you guys are cool with it.
  709. 2012-05-10T19:18:21 <jeebus_> Maya.
  710. 2012-05-10T19:18:53 <jeebus_> She called and streamed her call to Charon.
  711. 2012-05-10T19:19:08 *** marylamb has quit IRC
  712. 2012-05-10T19:19:41 <jeebus_> I think she can help. Definitely wants to
  713. 2012-05-10T19:24:20 <nnothingg> only after she shows some pictures.
  714. 2012-05-10T19:24:29 <nnothingg> and they dont evne have to be nude.
  715. 2012-05-10T19:30:52 *** jeebus_ has quit IRC
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  717. 2012-05-10T19:32:13 <jeebus_> Stupid phone.
  718. 2012-05-10T19:34:59 <jeebus_> Anyway, what say yous?
  719. 2012-05-10T19:37:17 <iIIustrious> I'm not against it if you think she won't go on about it to everyone
  720. 2012-05-10T19:37:27 <iIIustrious> the chat over there is really going down hill
  721. 2012-05-10T19:37:43 <nnothingg> i agree with iIIustrious ... i still think pictures, non nude, a re encouraged
  722. 2012-05-10T19:37:46 <nnothingg> but anyway.
  723. 2012-05-10T19:38:28 <nnothingg> if she can behelpful and keep her mouth shut outside of here then etc
  724. 2012-05-10T19:53:08 <iIIustrious> fake transmissions again
  725. 2012-05-10T19:53:25 <jeebus_> I think she can help.
  726. 2012-05-10T19:53:39 <jeebus_> And she'll keep it quiet.
  727. 2012-05-10T19:54:28 <nnothingg> hum
  728. 2012-05-10T19:55:21 <jeebus_> I hope...and if not, we move and don't bring her.
  729. 2012-05-10T19:56:48 <iIIustrious> yeah, I'm in jeebus_
  730. 2012-05-10T19:57:39 *** kluge has joined #sift
  731. 2012-05-10T19:57:42 <jeebus_> Okay. You wanna invite her? Or should I give her the Chan and password?
  732. 2012-05-10T19:58:19 <iIIustrious> go ahead, I'm working on the fake transmission from #umbra
  733. 2012-05-10T19:58:32 <jeebus_> Okay.
  734. 2012-05-10T19:59:08 <kluge> so it is fake?? wild
  735. 2012-05-10T19:59:09 <kluge> plot thickens
  736. 2012-05-10T19:59:24 <nnothingg> plot weakens
  737. 2012-05-10T19:59:31 <nnothingg> this shit isnt real... 4chan trolls
  738. 2012-05-10T19:59:54 <nnothingg> random girl maya claiming she phoned with charon
  739. 2012-05-10T19:59:55 <jeebus_> Dinner. Be back.
  740. 2012-05-10T19:59:59 <kluge> think that it ended all ready and it's 4chan trolls? or it was always 4chan trolls?
  741. 2012-05-10T20:00:14 <nnothingg> it's not unbelievable..... an elaborte troll by 4chan
  742. 2012-05-10T20:00:26 <iIIustrious> how is it "claiming" nothingg? the guy quoted to her what he said to us
  743. 2012-05-10T20:00:36 <iIIustrious> she talked to whoever we talked to
  744. 2012-05-10T20:00:41 <kluge> nnothingg, that would kind of suck
  745. 2012-05-10T20:00:44 <kluge> it seems like a fun ARG
  746. 2012-05-10T20:00:55 <nnothingg> i dono im still suspect of this bs
  747. 2012-05-10T20:01:00 <jeebus_> She streamed it.
  748. 2012-05-10T20:01:01 <nnothingg> needs to move forward though
  749. 2012-05-10T20:01:08 <nnothingg> where is the recording, i dont wnana download it
  750. 2012-05-10T20:01:17 <nnothingg> speaker.com ? youtube?
  751. 2012-05-10T20:02:02 <nnothingg> and jeebus_ you're still firm in your belief tht this is real and serious
  752. 2012-05-10T20:02:30 <jeebus_> 50/50
  753. 2012-05-10T20:02:47 *** maya has joined #sift
  754. 2012-05-10T20:02:50 <jeebus_> I'll explain after I eat.
  755. 2012-05-10T20:02:53 <kluge> yeah I gots to assume an uniform improper prior too
  756. 2012-05-10T20:03:01 <maya> hey guys
  757. 2012-05-10T20:03:04 <iIIustrious> I'm also on 50/50
  758. 2012-05-10T20:03:05 <iIIustrious> hey maya
  759. 2012-05-10T20:03:05 <nnothingg> hey you...
  760. 2012-05-10T20:03:15 <kluge> hey yo
  761. 2012-05-10T20:03:21 <maya> http://www.twitch.tv/mxcdonut/b/317767609 is the link to my stream
  762. 2012-05-10T20:03:28 <maya> just skip to about one minute in
  763. 2012-05-10T20:03:31 <kluge> so basically, I gotta read a bunch of shit I missed
  764. 2012-05-10T20:03:33 <jeebus_> Oh maya, nnothingg has a request...
  765. 2012-05-10T20:03:38 <nnothingg> lol
  766. 2012-05-10T20:03:41 <maya> ya?
  767. 2012-05-10T20:03:44 <iIIustrious> -_-
  768. 2012-05-10T20:03:47 <nnothingg> do i.
  769. 2012-05-10T20:04:05 <iIIustrious> lol guys, we already have #umbra for the bs posting
  770. 2012-05-10T20:04:12 <kluge> knowing nnothingg, this could lead to litigation
  771. 2012-05-10T20:04:49 <kluge> jokes, shit
  772. 2012-05-10T20:04:53 <nnothingg> i guess?
  773. 2012-05-10T20:05:07 <kluge> fine :/
  774. 2012-05-10T20:05:09 <kluge> f u
  775. 2012-05-10T20:05:26 <iIIustrious> In case it wasn't mentioned already, maya, the line charon used when you asked if it was an ARG was a direct quote of the one he gave us
  776. 2012-05-10T20:05:48 <maya> gave us?
  777. 2012-05-10T20:05:48 <iIIustrious> like, to the word. so take that as you will
  778. 2012-05-10T20:06:03 <kluge> so this phonecall to charon, was this the number that was in the text file from the thumbdrive?
  779. 2012-05-10T20:06:09 <iIIustrious> yeah, there's been quite a few people to talk to him so far
  780. 2012-05-10T20:06:16 <kluge> hrm
  781. 2012-05-10T20:06:23 <nnothingg> and the number claims it's not a game
  782. 2012-05-10T20:06:24 <nnothingg> ?
  783. 2012-05-10T20:06:40 <maya> pretty much
  784. 2012-05-10T20:06:41 <iIIustrious> hell lol, aparently my gf tried him from work today and got pretty much the same thing
  785. 2012-05-10T20:06:44 <nnothingg> if it's not a game, why the weak ciphers?
  786. 2012-05-10T20:07:03 <iIIustrious> I'm not saying it's not a game
  787. 2012-05-10T20:07:14 <iIIustrious> if he used the same line, that means that line could be scripted
  788. 2012-05-10T20:07:25 <nnothingg> and if serious and real, what is the objective? is someone about to die
  789. 2012-05-10T20:07:26 <iIIustrious> putting it pretty much back at solidly a game
  790. 2012-05-10T20:07:56 <maya> if every1 was getting the exact same answer from him, then probably illustrious
  791. 2012-05-10T20:08:54 <kluge> if it's not a game, then I'm not sure I wanna dick around with this anymore
  792. 2012-05-10T20:09:13 <maya> im the opposite, if its a game ill lose interest
  793. 2012-05-10T20:09:23 <nnothingg> psh it's just a silly troll thing, just very elaborate
  794. 2012-05-10T20:10:35 <iIIustrious> well. we'll see with the next transmission
  795. 2012-05-10T20:15:43 <kluge> so did a bunch of people just quit or what
  796. 2012-05-10T20:16:59 <iIIustrious> most people are out for a bit, and coming back
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  799. 2012-05-10T20:22:44 <Sorgens> Hi
  800. 2012-05-10T20:23:01 <Sorgens> Any news other than the new irc transmission?
  801. 2012-05-10T20:23:17 <nnothingg> no
  802. 2012-05-10T20:23:56 <iIIustrious> I don't think so, but I don't remember when you left
  803. 2012-05-10T20:25:00 <kluge> is there a transcription of your call, maya
  804. 2012-05-10T20:25:06 <kluge> I can't fully understand what he says
  805. 2012-05-10T20:25:22 <maya> i can make one, i couldnt fully understand what he was saying myself
  806. 2012-05-10T20:25:54 <kluge> after you ask, "is this an a r g?" "in that...there are multiple <...>"
  807. 2012-05-10T20:26:00 <kluge> then I can't fully get that part
  808. 2012-05-10T20:26:32 <nnothingg> maya... it sounded like he was trying to stay almost monotone with his voice
  809. 2012-05-10T20:26:40 <nnothingg> im not crazy convinced
  810. 2012-05-10T20:26:59 <kluge> hard to tell because of the narrow band of telephone transmission too
  811. 2012-05-10T20:27:11 <kluge> unavoidable almost
  812. 2012-05-10T20:27:16 <maya> i think he said "we're dealing with multiple factions of people trying to force their will upon one another"
  813. 2012-05-10T20:27:21 <maya> or blow up one another
  814. 2012-05-10T20:27:34 <nnothingg> psh
  815. 2012-05-10T20:27:36 <kluge> hmm
  816. 2012-05-10T20:27:47 <nnothingg> i want more evidence of it
  817. 2012-05-10T20:27:51 <kluge> that sounds like a resounding 'yes' to me
  818. 2012-05-10T20:28:50 <maya> btw nnothingg, i think u were questioning the authenticity of the IRC transmissions, i said transmissions in plural and he said dont trust em
  819. 2012-05-10T20:29:16 <kluge> trust NO ONE
  820. 2012-05-10T20:29:19 <kluge> you know
  821. 2012-05-10T20:29:21 <nnothingg> right , no one
  822. 2012-05-10T20:29:39 <nnothingg> not even YOU maya , even IF you're adorable
  823. 2012-05-10T20:29:41 <nnothingg> ,': (
  824. 2012-05-10T20:29:45 <kluge> the original umbra if they wanted to be cool would have signed their messages
  825. 2012-05-10T20:29:46 <nnothingg> ,'; )
  826. 2012-05-10T20:29:48 <kluge> so we could verify
  827. 2012-05-10T20:29:56 <maya> i wouldnt trust me ;)
  828. 2012-05-10T20:29:58 <kluge> that they came from the same source
  829. 2012-05-10T20:30:05 <nnothingg> there yuh go.. not helping:P
  830. 2012-05-10T20:30:06 <nnothingg> lol
  831. 2012-05-10T20:30:30 <maya> haha. and i agree kluge. but people go to extreme lengths to copy that kind of thing
  832. 2012-05-10T20:31:02 <kluge> well he could gpg sign the transmissions
  833. 2012-05-10T20:31:05 <kluge> or could have originally
  834. 2012-05-10T20:31:07 <kluge> well no
  835. 2012-05-10T20:31:18 <kluge> they go through that fucking nubmer station crap...he'd be reading for days
  836. 2012-05-10T20:31:30 <kluge> so no, no way to tell that irc umbra is numbraumbra
  837. 2012-05-10T20:32:13 <maya> all i know is, charon told me not to trust it, and we have some form of proof that he is legit (considering the drop transmission came from the spreaker account)
  838. 2012-05-10T20:32:30 <kluge> hm
  839. 2012-05-10T20:32:35 <nnothingg> so what do you believe maya ..tht this is real?
  840. 2012-05-10T20:32:44 <maya> 75/25 in favor of it being real
  841. 2012-05-10T20:32:56 <nnothingg> i still dont know what 'real ' is ... what is the purpose here
  842. 2012-05-10T20:33:04 <maya> we dont know yet
  843. 2012-05-10T20:33:29 <nnothingg> lol some of us have put a month or two into this...
  844. 2012-05-10T20:33:32 <kluge> I think it is a real game
  845. 2012-05-10T20:33:40 <maya> ive put about a month into this
  846. 2012-05-10T20:33:49 <kluge> blood and sweat
  847. 2012-05-10T20:34:06 <kluge> I cried sometimes while writing so hard, fingers split and cramped
  848. 2012-05-10T20:34:10 <nnothingg> if it is a game... t hey can continue their misdirections nd continue making us follow never ending clues
  849. 2012-05-10T20:34:12 <kluge> god, the times the paper was stained with blood
  850. 2012-05-10T20:34:14 <nnothingg> it's THEIR perfect game
  851. 2012-05-10T20:34:17 <nnothingg> when they decide to end it
  852. 2012-05-10T20:34:23 <Sorgens> I spent 48 hours trying to crack 24 without sleeping
  853. 2012-05-10T20:34:31 <kluge> whoa
  854. 2012-05-10T20:34:34 <kluge> that's dedication
  855. 2012-05-10T20:34:35 <maya> if this is real, it may be a loong time before we get an answer... at least if its a game someone knows how it ends
  856. 2012-05-10T20:34:42 <nnothingg> yeah poor Sorgens (sincerely) i know you have been racing to crack them
  857. 2012-05-10T20:35:01 <Sorgens> I did crack the irc trans from this morning first
  858. 2012-05-10T20:35:16 <nnothingg> ah..i wasnt all here this morning:)
  859. 2012-05-10T20:35:19 <nnothingg> still woozy
  860. 2012-05-10T20:35:30 <Sorgens> but then, that one is fake
  861. 2012-05-10T20:35:47 <nnothingg> how did you come to that?
  862. 2012-05-10T20:36:00 <nnothingg> so much copycat shit going on now
  863. 2012-05-10T20:36:03 <nnothingg> hum
  864. 2012-05-10T20:37:34 <kluge> I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO BELIEVE ANYMORE :~(
  865. 2012-05-10T20:37:42 <kluge> dammit someone digital sign
  866. 2012-05-10T20:37:48 <nnothingg> me either.. im going to play safe and say it's bullshit
  867. 2012-05-10T20:37:55 <nnothingg> and if it IS bullshit, it's 4chan controlled BULLSHIT
  868. 2012-05-10T20:38:07 <nnothingg> kluge: remember, this all started with 4chan posts
  869. 2012-05-10T20:38:07 <kluge> it's bullshit insofar as it's a game
  870. 2012-05-10T20:38:16 <kluge> did it
  871. 2012-05-10T20:38:17 <kluge> haha
  872. 2012-05-10T20:38:21 <kluge> I thought it was a reddit post
  873. 2012-05-10T20:38:29 <nnothingg> yeah, the intro to the doc says someone posted shit to /x/
  874. 2012-05-10T20:38:38 <kluge> ohhh
  875. 2012-05-10T20:38:43 <kluge> that was the orig
  876. 2012-05-10T20:38:46 <nnothingg> so....yah..........
  877. 2012-05-10T20:38:46 <kluge> well then
  878. 2012-05-10T20:38:56 <kluge> fun game 4chan, plz continue fun
  879. 2012-05-10T20:39:03 <kluge> -raping
  880. 2012-05-10T20:39:03 <maya> umbra probly posted the first one
  881. 2012-05-10T20:39:28 <nnothingg> the one good thing that came from a 4chan troll, go to see maya
  882. 2012-05-10T20:39:32 <nnothingg> amirite.
  883. 2012-05-10T20:39:36 <nnothingg> got*
  884. 2012-05-10T20:39:48 <kluge> lol stfu
  885. 2012-05-10T20:39:57 <nnothingg> yah am rite.
  886. 2012-05-10T20:40:00 <nnothingg> :>
  887. 2012-05-10T20:40:09 <kluge> fuckin' irc casanova here
  888. 2012-05-10T20:40:16 <kluge> don juan irclio
  889. 2012-05-10T20:40:23 <kluge> lolol
  890. 2012-05-10T20:40:25 <nnothingg> psh.. you disagree that she's cute?
  891. 2012-05-10T20:40:31 <kluge> nah
  892. 2012-05-10T20:40:35 <kluge> don't disagree
  893. 2012-05-10T20:40:40 <nnothingg> then stfu
  894. 2012-05-10T20:40:43 <nnothingg> lol
  895. 2012-05-10T20:40:47 <kluge> anyway
  896. 2012-05-10T20:40:55 <kluge> I agree it irrelevant though
  897. 2012-05-10T20:41:13 <maya> agree lol
  898. 2012-05-10T20:41:17 <kluge> so, who is the kid in the original transmissions of charon is that dude?
  899. 2012-05-10T20:41:25 <kluge> if rather
  900. 2012-05-10T20:41:49 <maya> who are umbra and virgil then
  901. 2012-05-10T20:41:55 <iIIustrious> the spreaker channel is virgil
  902. 2012-05-10T20:42:01 <iIIustrious> umbra is the mission designation
  903. 2012-05-10T20:42:34 <nnothingg> ...
  904. 2012-05-10T20:42:35 <nnothingg> haha
  905. 2012-05-10T20:42:52 <iIIustrious> ?
  906. 2012-05-10T20:43:18 <nnothingg> im choosing to assume this has its foundations in a 4chan troll op
  907. 2012-05-10T20:43:23 <nnothingg> so ..it's funny now
  908. 2012-05-10T20:44:29 <kluge> so what if it is
  909. 2012-05-10T20:44:42 <kluge> they went to a lot of fucking trouble to make some ARG out of it and is fun regardless
  910. 2012-05-10T20:45:44 <nnothingg> when DONT they go through a lot of trouble to troll
  911. 2012-05-10T20:45:46 <nnothingg> lol
  912. 2012-05-10T20:46:12 <kluge> is it a troll if they have to effectively play the game with us?
  913. 2012-05-10T20:46:18 <kluge> they'd be trollin' themselves
  914. 2012-05-10T20:46:25 <kluge> reflexive trolling
  915. 2012-05-10T20:46:40 <iIIustrious> troll themselves is most of what 4chan does
  916. 2012-05-10T20:46:55 <nnothingg> well they just better start putting out more codes, with interesting algorithms, and interesting paths.. thats wht i say
  917. 2012-05-10T20:46:57 <kluge> that's okay with me
  918. 2012-05-10T20:47:10 <kluge> I don't mind dicking around with cryptanalysis and interesting stories
  919. 2012-05-10T20:47:16 <nnothingg> right
  920. 2012-05-10T20:48:47 <kluge> the worst that can happen is I get bored or (unlikely) cult raped
  921. 2012-05-10T20:48:56 <kluge> but if there were any 'drops' around me, I would totally go
  922. 2012-05-10T20:49:03 <kluge> DO YOU HEAR ME WATCHERS IN THE BUSHES?
  923. 2012-05-10T20:49:47 <nnothingg> you?
  924. 2012-05-10T20:49:50 <nnothingg> you're not going to a drop
  925. 2012-05-10T20:49:53 <nnothingg> you're not gettin' raped
  926. 2012-05-10T20:49:54 <nnothingg> STFU
  927. 2012-05-10T20:49:58 *** marylamb has joined #sift
  928. 2012-05-10T20:50:05 <kluge> I would so go to a drop but none are near me
  929. 2012-05-10T20:50:22 <kluge> I'd go DRUNK even
  930. 2012-05-10T20:50:27 <kluge> best drop ever
  931. 2012-05-10T20:50:28 <nnothingg> well send a communication nd encourage them... youll get a free flash drive out of it.... and possible rape
  932. 2012-05-10T20:50:41 <kluge> no, there will be nothing nonconsentual
  933. 2012-05-10T20:51:00 <kluge> but we might get beers and talk about ARGs
  934. 2012-05-10T20:51:27 <nnothingg> or you'll be taken out by CIA counter-intel
  935. 2012-05-10T20:51:30 <nnothingg> if it's real
  936. 2012-05-10T20:51:31 <nnothingg> ;]
  937. 2012-05-10T20:51:39 <marylamb> maybe all 3?
  938. 2012-05-10T20:51:42 <kluge> no way dude
  939. 2012-05-10T20:51:55 <kluge> CIA wouldn't give a fuck 'bout me
  940. 2012-05-10T20:52:05 <nnothingg> exactly
  941. 2012-05-10T20:52:07 <nnothingg> easy of OFF you
  942. 2012-05-10T20:52:50 <kluge> lol
  943. 2012-05-10T20:55:11 <kluge> dudebro, I've got to the point of almost Riley-level tabs open now
  944. 2012-05-10T20:55:14 <kluge> from looking at all this crap
  945. 2012-05-10T20:55:33 <marylamb> beautiful mind type shit
  946. 2012-05-10T20:55:41 <nnothingg> see.
  947. 2012-05-10T20:55:48 <nnothingg> developign SICK hbits
  948. 2012-05-10T20:55:52 <nnothingg> what crap kluge
  949. 2012-05-10T20:56:08 <kluge> nah because I don't have some sort of OCD fear of losing half my brain if I close them
  950. 2012-05-10T20:56:18 <Sorgens> ...
  951. 2012-05-10T20:56:34 <kluge> yeah sorry Sorgens, this is off topic
  952. 2012-05-10T20:57:13 <nnothingg> yup
  953. 2012-05-10T20:57:32 <Sorgens> Oh, no, is the ocd-tabs thing
  954. 2012-05-10T20:57:38 <Sorgens> I have like 15 open
  955. 2012-05-10T20:57:42 <kluge> oh, that's nothing
  956. 2012-05-10T20:57:58 <kluge> there's a guy nnothingg and I know that keeps hundreds open, multiple vlc windows etc
  957. 2012-05-10T20:58:00 <kluge> all the time
  958. 2012-05-10T20:58:05 <Sorgens> I've seen firefox with 200
  959. 2012-05-10T20:58:10 <kluge> he's a strange cat
  960. 2012-05-10T20:58:21 <marylamb> lol
  961. 2012-05-10T20:58:24 <Sorgens> But the guy has a military plane for computer
  962. 2012-05-10T20:58:26 <kluge> this guy will nervous breakdown if any close though
  963. 2012-05-10T20:58:37 <kluge> or god forbid (omg omg omg no plz lord) the browser crashes
  964. 2012-05-10T20:58:49 <nnothingg> no he's not a strange cat... just has horrible computing habits;]
  965. 2012-05-10T20:58:57 <kluge> he's strange and you know it
  966. 2012-05-10T21:00:08 <nnothingg> lol
  967. 2012-05-10T21:01:44 <nnothingg> FBI Concerned About Bitcoin Usage Among Cybercriminals
  968. 2012-05-10T21:01:49 <nnothingg> That's you kluge , criminal.
  969. 2012-05-10T21:02:06 <kluge> I don't do anything criminal
  970. 2012-05-10T21:02:06 <nnothingg> i dont think you're a cybercrinimal though.. not smart enough
  971. 2012-05-10T21:02:11 <nnothingg> ;]
  972. 2012-05-10T21:02:35 <kluge> yeah hear that fbi? I'm not smart enough for crimes
  973. 2012-05-10T21:02:58 <nnothingg> cybercrimes.
  974. 2012-05-10T21:03:07 <nnothingg> im sure you're ALL mixed up in ARG crimes
  975. 2012-05-10T21:03:31 <marylamb> i only mess with alternate reality crimes
  976. 2012-05-10T21:03:34 <kluge> what are arg crimes?
  977. 2012-05-10T21:03:44 <nnothingg> Don't play dumb
  978. 2012-05-10T21:03:45 <marylamb> ones done in another dimension
  979. 2012-05-10T21:03:46 <nnothingg> criminal
  980. 2012-05-10T21:03:47 <kluge> rapey floral arrangement?
  981. 2012-05-10T21:03:49 <marylamb> you now it
  982. 2012-05-10T21:04:43 <marylamb> post rape flowers are clutch
  983. 2012-05-10T21:04:54 <kluge> deck
  984. 2012-05-10T21:06:47 <maya> transcribed the call
  985. 2012-05-10T21:08:05 <iIIustrious> in the paste bin?
  986. 2012-05-10T21:08:21 <iIIustrious> http://pastebin.com/BQn7npVM?
  987. 2012-05-10T21:08:31 <kluge> Sorgens, so what do you use for cryptanalysis
  988. 2012-05-10T21:08:34 <kluge> I been using python
  989. 2012-05-10T21:08:35 <iIIustrious> or..
  990. 2012-05-10T21:08:37 <iIIustrious> http://pastebin.com/BQn7npVM
  991. 2012-05-10T21:08:46 <Sorgens> I've been using pen and paper
  992. 2012-05-10T21:08:50 <kluge> along with some random tools people posted
  993. 2012-05-10T21:08:50 <kluge> oh ok
  994. 2012-05-10T21:08:51 <nnothingg> hardcore
  995. 2012-05-10T21:08:56 <Sorgens> for play fair
  996. 2012-05-10T21:09:04 <kluge> I did that with the playfair but I got tedious
  997. 2012-05-10T21:09:07 <jeebus_> Pen and paper here too.
  998. 2012-05-10T21:09:17 <Sorgens> and both pen and paper and the rumkin.com tools for affine and such
  999. 2012-05-10T21:09:53 <kluge> affine? what is that? a monoalphabetic shift? I know the word from mathematics but not sure how it's used here
  1000. 2012-05-10T21:10:35 <kluge> oh
  1001. 2012-05-10T21:10:40 <kluge> it is literally called affine cipher
  1002. 2012-05-10T21:10:46 <kluge> nm, searched
  1003. 2012-05-10T21:10:52 <maya> fail it was already done
  1004. 2012-05-10T21:11:20 <maya> o no that ones crap
  1005. 2012-05-10T21:11:27 <kluge> jb couldn't figure out some of it
  1006. 2012-05-10T21:12:00 <kluge> yeah okay, so x -> ax+b modulo 26
  1007. 2012-05-10T21:12:09 <kluge> and a gotta be relatively prime to 26
  1008. 2012-05-10T21:12:20 <kluge> now I knows
  1009. 2012-05-10T21:13:30 <jeebus_> I have copied and pasted from here for the first messages on YouTube and spreaker.
  1010. 2012-05-10T21:13:47 <jeebus_> Everything else is pen and paper
  1011. 2012-05-10T21:13:54 <kluge> impressive
  1012. 2012-05-10T21:14:02 <jeebus_> Haven't written this much since college
  1013. 2012-05-10T21:14:26 <kluge> haha
  1014. 2012-05-10T21:14:48 <jeebus_> Not really, I haven't cracked first, or completely yet. Trusting you bastards to get it right. lol
  1015. 2012-05-10T21:15:08 <Sorgens> if the multiplier is 1
  1016. 2012-05-10T21:15:13 <jeebus_> But I've written tons of crap and my hands hurt
  1017. 2012-05-10T21:15:17 <Sorgens> affine is a simple caesarian shift
  1018. 2012-05-10T21:15:18 <maya> http://pastebin.com/14TdLesE
  1019. 2012-05-10T21:15:56 <kluge> thanks maya
  1020. 2012-05-10T21:18:18 <marylamb> hey maya...thanks
  1021. 2012-05-10T21:18:31 <maya> np :)
  1022. 2012-05-10T21:19:12 <nnothingg> hmmm
  1023. 2012-05-10T21:19:21 <kluge> 'brian out' maybe "I am out" or "I'm out"
  1024. 2012-05-10T21:19:29 <maya> i specifically heard an r
  1025. 2012-05-10T21:19:37 <maya> when i was on the phone with him
  1026. 2012-05-10T21:20:00 <kluge> oh
  1027. 2012-05-10T21:20:20 <nnothingg> nervous:)
  1028. 2012-05-10T21:20:22 <nnothingg> hehe
  1029. 2012-05-10T21:20:32 <jeebus_> Could be.
  1030. 2012-05-10T21:20:41 <nnothingg> meh..
  1031. 2012-05-10T21:20:59 <maya> i think it may have been a slip up on his end? since hes in the military theyr probly used to signing off with their last names like brian out
  1032. 2012-05-10T21:21:05 <Sorgens> take into account that you had the speaker on
  1033. 2012-05-10T21:21:11 <Sorgens> that could distort some sounds
  1034. 2012-05-10T21:21:17 <jeebus_> If he was reading from a scipt and trying to maintain a laid back attitude.
  1035. 2012-05-10T21:21:35 <iIIustrious> it could have been charon out?
  1036. 2012-05-10T21:21:43 <maya> watch the video again
  1037. 2012-05-10T21:21:49 <maya> it sounds like it starts with a b
  1038. 2012-05-10T21:23:08 <jeebus_> That's what I thought at first, "charon out" but now I'm not so sure
  1039. 2012-05-10T21:23:48 <maya> im not saying IT IS brian, but thats what it sounded like most to me
  1040. 2012-05-10T21:24:08 <jeebus_> Is there any internet voice stress tests?
  1041. 2012-05-10T21:24:26 <jeebus_> Any have the software perhaps?
  1042. 2012-05-10T21:26:37 <iIIustrious> I can look online, but I don't
  1043. 2012-05-10T21:27:02 <jeebus_> I'll listen again when it's quiet. Not that I'll be much help, my hearing is shit.
  1044. 2012-05-10T21:27:11 <jeebus_> That'd be great.
  1045. 2012-05-10T21:28:23 <maya> i dont think knowing what he said at the end will change anything
  1046. 2012-05-10T21:29:46 <kluge> maybe he said charon out
  1047. 2012-05-10T21:29:52 <kluge> and sounded like brian
  1048. 2012-05-10T21:30:08 <kluge> oh
  1049. 2012-05-10T21:30:10 <kluge> I should read the backlog
  1050. 2012-05-10T21:30:12 <kluge> nm afk again
  1051. 2012-05-10T21:30:33 <jeebus_> I'm thinking they're wanting to peek behind the curtain, which would confirm legitimacy.
  1052. 2012-05-10T21:31:32 <jeebus_> And I'm down because I really want this to be an ARG...and real. Man I'm sick
  1053. 2012-05-10T21:33:09 <marylamb> lol
  1054. 2012-05-10T21:33:22 <marylamb> o jeebus
  1055. 2012-05-10T21:35:31 <jeebus_> I'm calm again by the way. Leaning solidly toward arg. But an epic one.
  1056. 2012-05-10T21:35:53 <iIIustrious> I haven't found anything voice wise. Not anything I could get easily at least
  1057. 2012-05-10T21:35:59 <Sorgens> I want this to be real
  1058. 2012-05-10T21:36:12 <maya> my main argument against ARG is, it seems to be going around the world with footage n pics / drops to back it up
  1059. 2012-05-10T21:37:28 <iIIustrious> It's strange. The fact we've decrypted anything leans me towards, but the fact it's dealing with real world cults, and pic/vid of actual soldiers leans me away. It seems like stuff advertisers wouldn't want to touch
  1060. 2012-05-10T21:37:56 <marylamb> Well, I don't think the motivation is advertising though
  1061. 2012-05-10T21:39:37 <maya> an ARG of this calibur would be paying actors, paying for drops, paying for people TO drop etc. y would someone do all this if they dont get something out of it
  1062. 2012-05-10T21:40:19 <marylamb> well, they'd get the joy of doing it...i think there's other examples of things that intensive at unfiction
  1063. 2012-05-10T21:40:38 <marylamb> i think at least
  1064. 2012-05-10T21:40:40 <maya> but to 20 people?
  1065. 2012-05-10T21:41:03 <marylamb> yeah
  1066. 2012-05-10T21:41:09 <iIIustrious> there won't be much question in ten days...
  1067. 2012-05-10T21:41:26 <marylamb> i don't i can totally see that happening
  1068. 2012-05-10T21:41:28 <maya> true. though if nothing happens were still at where we are now
  1069. 2012-05-10T21:41:39 <marylamb> mhm
  1070. 2012-05-10T21:41:45 <marylamb> just like the whole may 1st dealy
  1071. 2012-05-10T21:42:22 <maya> we over hyped that
  1072. 2012-05-10T21:43:10 <marylamb> meh
  1073. 2012-05-10T21:43:18 <marylamb> it was a frequent mention
  1074. 2012-05-10T21:43:27 <jeebus_> And this time so did Charon.
  1075. 2012-05-10T21:43:38 <marylamb> alright, me going to bed
  1076. 2012-05-10T21:43:40 <marylamb> later guys
  1077. 2012-05-10T21:43:48 <iIIustrious> later
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  1079. 2012-05-10T21:44:13 <maya> we assumed that may 1st meant a terrorist attack or something big, when all it was, was the first drop (which is kinda big if ur not bracing for an attack)
  1080. 2012-05-10T21:45:33 <jeebus_> And the date coneumbra youtube went live right?
  1081. 2012-05-10T21:46:56 <Sorgens> guys
  1082. 2012-05-10T21:47:04 <Sorgens> remember what he said when I asked who the enemy was?
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  1085. 2012-05-10T21:47:30 <iIIustrious> <C1UMBRACharon> Enemy is almost certainly a splinter of current day Aleph and appears to have KGB backing to some degree. Automatic weapons recovered thus far have been Soviet style for the most part with few exceptions.
  1086. 2012-05-10T21:47:39 <Sorgens> [14:37] <C1UMBRACharon> Enemy is almost certainly a splinter of current day Aleph and appears to have KGB backing to some degree. Automatic weapons recovered thus far have been Soviet style for the most part with few exceptions.
  1087. 2012-05-10T21:47:44 <iIIustrious> ha
  1088. 2012-05-10T21:47:48 <iIIustrious> too slow
  1089. 2012-05-10T21:48:06 <Sorgens> Aleph is the new Aum
  1090. 2012-05-10T21:48:13 <iIIustrious> it's one of the two
  1091. 2012-05-10T21:48:21 <iIIustrious> the other is circle of light
  1092. 2012-05-10T21:48:43 <iIIustrious> pr seemed to mostly go to circle, the hardcores to aleph
  1093. 2012-05-10T21:49:42 <maya> so what do they have in common with KGB
  1094. 2012-05-10T21:50:18 <Sorgens> No idea...
  1095. 2012-05-10T21:50:27 <iIIustrious> I suspect they want some chaos in places the kgb would like to see, so they're backing?
  1096. 2012-05-10T21:50:34 <iIIustrious> we can really only guess
  1097. 2012-05-10T21:51:34 <Sorgens> (jessie, thanks for your bot. I was able to read what happened while I was gone)
  1098. 2012-05-10T21:52:01 <jeebus_> Soviets sell lots of hardware to lots of folks.
  1099. 2012-05-10T21:52:17 <Sorgens> Should we bother with the newest IRC transmission?
  1100. 2012-05-10T21:52:43 <jessie> Yup.
  1101. 2012-05-10T21:52:48 <maya> we should, just to know what they want / are planning
  1102. 2012-05-10T21:53:04 <Sorgens> the tey to far is TOTA
  1103. 2012-05-10T21:53:06 <kluge> reading the backlog
  1104. 2012-05-10T21:53:11 <kluge> I must comment on this: <maya> an ARG of this calibur would be paying actors, paying for drops, paying for people TO drop etc. y would someone do all this if they dont get something out of it
  1105. 2012-05-10T21:53:13 <Sorgens> the first word is LOOK
  1106. 2012-05-10T21:53:17 <kluge> for the same reason we're doing it
  1107. 2012-05-10T21:53:20 <Sorgens> I have no idea what comes next
  1108. 2012-05-10T21:53:23 <kluge> for the hell of it
  1109. 2012-05-10T21:53:25 <jessie> Okay, anything happen while I was out?
  1110. 2012-05-10T21:55:04 <jeebus_> Lot of work for the hell of it.
  1111. 2012-05-10T21:55:22 <Sorgens> Okay
  1112. 2012-05-10T21:55:24 <jeebus_> ...which is what we're doing... Nm
  1113. 2012-05-10T21:55:30 <Sorgens> TOTA is the key at the begining.
  1114. 2012-05-10T21:55:38 <Sorgens> First word is LOOK
  1115. 2012-05-10T21:55:53 <Sorgens> and some part of the key seems to be SUSP
  1116. 2012-05-10T21:56:01 <Sorgens> suspect maybe?
  1117. 2012-05-10T21:56:19 <jeebus_> Is this the IRC you guys are working on?
  1118. 2012-05-10T21:56:54 <jeebus_> My chat log is short on phone.
  1119. 2012-05-10T21:57:01 <Sorgens> Yes
  1120. 2012-05-10T21:57:32 <jeebus_> Ah. Okay. Sorry. I'll shut up now :)
  1121. 2012-05-10T21:58:33 <iIIustrious> Well, I'm out of time to work on it, but if no one's solved it, I'll be back on in a few hours, and I'll work on it then
  1122. 2012-05-10T21:59:35 <iIIustrious> gl guys
  1123. 2012-05-10T21:59:42 <kluge> later
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  1126. 2012-05-10T22:02:44 <kluge> so have these been omitting Q for playfair?
  1127. 2012-05-10T22:03:05 <kluge> seems like it
  1128. 2012-05-10T22:03:44 <jessie> Not J?
  1129. 2012-05-10T22:03:53 <jessie> We get a new transmission?
  1130. 2012-05-10T22:03:58 <Sorgens> J
  1131. 2012-05-10T22:04:14 <kluge> oh ok
  1132. 2012-05-10T22:04:33 <jeebus_> Shower time...be back later guys, and (for sure gals).
  1133. 2012-05-10T22:05:08 <kluge> later
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  1135. 2012-05-10T22:21:38 <kluge> so this last one is supposed to be vigenere?
  1136. 2012-05-10T22:21:55 <Sorgens> Yes
  1137. 2012-05-10T22:22:31 <kluge> hmm
  1138. 2012-05-10T22:24:28 <jessie> maya... You're the one who called him, yes?
  1139. 2012-05-10T22:24:31 <jessie> You've got the livestream?
  1140. 2012-05-10T22:26:07 <maya> yes
  1141. 2012-05-10T22:28:16 <jessie> Besides the fact that you are very cute, you seem to be fairly level headed. Are you aware of all that occurred in this channel?
  1142. 2012-05-10T22:28:31 <maya> not completely
  1143. 2012-05-10T22:28:44 <maya> and thank you : |
  1144. 2012-05-10T22:29:55 <maya> i know that charon was in this channel, but nothing of what was said
  1145. 2012-05-10T22:30:19 <kluge> whose bot is UmbraRumba?
  1146. 2012-05-10T22:30:24 <Sorgens> Jessie's
  1147. 2012-05-10T22:30:28 <kluge> okay
  1148. 2012-05-10T22:34:49 <jessie> Which transmission mentioned sarin?
  1149. 2012-05-10T22:36:00 <maya> it was part of 18s key
  1150. 2012-05-10T22:39:19 <jessie> I see that now, thank you.
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  1152. 2012-05-10T22:41:03 <Sorgens_> Browser crashed...
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  1155. 2012-05-10T22:42:26 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Sorgens
  1156. 2012-05-10T22:43:47 <jessie> maya: , where is the livestream of you on the phone??
  1157. 2012-05-10T22:43:59 <maya> http://www.twitch.tv/mxcdonut/b/317767609
  1158. 2012-05-10T22:46:25 <jessie> Thank you very much. :-)
  1159. 2012-05-10T22:47:35 <maya> np :)
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  1162. 2012-05-10T23:01:27 <maya_> umbras IRC transmission is starting to look pretty threatening
  1163. 2012-05-10T23:05:06 <kluge> are you computing index of coincidence etc by hand as well, Sorgens?
  1164. 2012-05-10T23:06:39 <Sorgens> Is that the length of the interval between character repetitions?
  1165. 2012-05-10T23:07:01 <Sorgens> I was trying to make a vba macro for that in excel... I am procrastinating it for now.
  1166. 2012-05-10T23:07:26 <Sorgens> This is what we have so far for the 3rd IRC trans.
  1167. 2012-05-10T23:07:29 <jessie> maya_: What do you mean? The real Umbra or the fake one?
  1168. 2012-05-10T23:07:38 <maya_> fake
  1169. 2012-05-10T23:07:46 <Sorgens> The dashes are random strings of letters we haven't figurd out yet:
  1170. 2012-05-10T23:07:47 <Sorgens> look at me now - look at me now im so - look at me now i was a - look at me now grew - whore and i want it - a million - things and not one - hey and our mommies
  1171. 2012-05-10T23:10:05 <jessie> Yes, I would agree with that. I have informed my roomies of the potential danger of this situation. We are all sleeping with guns and knives from here out.
  1172. 2012-05-10T23:10:36 <maya_> haha
  1173. 2012-05-10T23:10:55 <Sorgens> I am okay
  1174. 2012-05-10T23:11:25 <Sorgens> There are 8 units per floor, 18 floors per building and 3 buildings in my college residence
  1175. 2012-05-10T23:11:31 <Sorgens> All connected to the same network
  1176. 2012-05-10T23:11:54 <Sorgens> and from those 8 units per floor, 4 are quads and 4 are single studios
  1177. 2012-05-10T23:12:25 <Sorgens> and that's just my residence... there are 5 other student residences around campus
  1178. 2012-05-10T23:12:28 <jessie> Sorgens: that is a pretty good set up.
  1179. 2012-05-10T23:12:52 <Sorgens> so, they may now which city I'm in, but they would have to go through a lot of units to get me...
  1180. 2012-05-10T23:12:56 <Sorgens> ... I hope...
  1181. 2012-05-10T23:13:54 <jessie> I moved from my parents and stated on twitter which city I live in. I don't think that they know what my address is, though.
  1182. 2012-05-10T23:14:11 <kluge> hmm
  1183. 2012-05-10T23:14:17 <kluge> so the key is just nonsense for that one?
  1184. 2012-05-10T23:14:41 <Sorgens> No
  1185. 2012-05-10T23:14:47 <Sorgens> the key is TOTAL ECLIPSE OF THE STARS
  1186. 2012-05-10T23:15:05 <kluge> hrm
  1187. 2012-05-10T23:15:24 <Sorgens> And after telling the #umbra guys about the "look at me now"
  1188. 2012-05-10T23:15:27 <Sorgens> they found this
  1189. 2012-05-10T23:15:28 <Sorgens> http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/101708/
  1190. 2012-05-10T23:15:30 <kluge> jesus maybe I'm doing the wrong ciphertext
  1191. 2012-05-10T23:16:33 <kluge> SAVKPPKTFZECAOUHNLUONBVZSODGYIEPVKIDTLKCJIHGAXVOZWRBWYWSURHLWCRXNBUXVOZWRBWYWSSMLPQWCUIXHIOOGAYCVTEWZOPMEINRPXCQPTXIYBAWTEAIKBBMNXLGAFOICCQPFOVKFJUXUVDQUHDTLYPJBDMCUKYHPXOHAKSHZFUOLDCNVLLZKNZHILXTLXSELHTUUTDZDAFCLTXBBKIXJMBSTERBSVMOGNMXASUORXDQHRTJCTVPLJARINPPTTVPPIHNCWBXKLXLQVYBSHWTHWPQFOJJEPFOAAXGTROVDRBLLGWAAHWDMCLNGBZTJKVGRXTQJOBAWTKEMNPVFFWURCHLHZPHXHGHLLVZZJDMKKJEPFQGZTIKMUMNSEZBIHNLMNLRDQSOKARWWLJQEZIXYHDYLBAYHKTOSHXPMHXDRXSLJXLGLQKESJMLTFBEWIVPED
  1192. 2012-05-10T23:16:36 <kluge> tshit
  1193. 2012-05-10T23:16:39 <kluge> sorry
  1194. 2012-05-10T23:16:45 <kluge> meant to paste the first line
  1195. 2012-05-10T23:16:50 <kluge> is that the right one?
  1196. 2012-05-10T23:17:18 <maya_> ya
  1197. 2012-05-10T23:17:21 <maya_> thats the right one
  1198. 2012-05-10T23:17:29 <kluge> must be something wrong with my code
  1199. 2012-05-10T23:17:46 <maya_> savkppktfzecaouhnluonbvzsodgyiepvkidtlkcjihgaxvozwrbwyw is the start of mine
  1200. 2012-05-10T23:17:57 <maya_> TOTALECLIPSEOFTHESTARS
  1201. 2012-05-10T23:18:41 <kluge> hrm
  1202. 2012-05-10T23:19:18 <Sorgens> Either I am doing something wrong
  1203. 2012-05-10T23:19:27 <Sorgens> Or the key shifts with lines
  1204. 2012-05-10T23:19:43 <Sorgens> or the guy who made these transmissions doesn't know how to encode with vigenere
  1205. 2012-05-10T23:19:59 <Sorgens> but I get one line of text, one line of gibberish, one of text, one of gibberish, etc...
  1206. 2012-05-10T23:20:17 <maya_> maybe he inserted gibberish in there on purpose to fuck with us
  1207. 2012-05-10T23:20:39 <kluge> so I'm not crazy, this is right isn't it? to decrypt I should take the ordinal of S, subtract the ordinal of T modulo 26 no?
  1208. 2012-05-10T23:20:48 <kluge> wth
  1209. 2012-05-10T23:21:03 <jessie> BTW, the line "I'm not affiliated with any one particular branch. We receive support from all of them as we see fit." makes Charon sound like he is part of Delta Force.
  1210. 2012-05-10T23:21:04 <kluge> say, to decrypt the first character I mean
  1211. 2012-05-10T23:21:30 <jessie> And, to quote wikipedia, "Delta Force, along with its Navy counterpart DEVGRU also known as SEAL Team Six, are the United States Military's primary counter-terrorism units."
  1212. 2012-05-10T23:21:30 <Sorgens> no
  1213. 2012-05-10T23:21:32 <Sorgens> vigenere
  1214. 2012-05-10T23:21:41 <Sorgens> use vigenere
  1215. 2012-05-10T23:21:52 <Sorgens> it uses a 26 by 26 grid to decode
  1216. 2012-05-10T23:21:58 <Sorgens> affine is the one that uses modulo
  1217. 2012-05-10T23:22:12 <kluge> this is equivalent to vigenere though
  1218. 2012-05-10T23:22:19 <maya_> wow nice find jessue
  1219. 2012-05-10T23:22:21 <kluge> the problem is I muffed something up coding it I think :/
  1220. 2012-05-10T23:22:23 <maya_> jessie*
  1221. 2012-05-10T23:22:42 <kluge> Sorgens, this is what I'm using https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigen%C3%A8re_cipher#Algebraic_description
  1222. 2012-05-10T23:22:58 <Sorgens> Ah, yes, affine is caesarian shift with a multiplier
  1223. 2012-05-10T23:23:01 <jessie> So... The whole terrorism thing seems to fit.
  1224. 2012-05-10T23:23:18 <kluge> but my code is jacked
  1225. 2012-05-10T23:23:18 <Sorgens> and vigenere is 26 different caesarian shift alphabets, so yes... hehe
  1226. 2012-05-10T23:23:37 <kluge> hmm
  1227. 2012-05-10T23:23:41 <kluge> seriously what the hell :)
  1228. 2012-05-10T23:24:35 <kluge> donno what I'm overlooking, there's like 4 lines of code doing the only part that would matter
  1229. 2012-05-10T23:25:36 <kluge> you assign numbers 0..25 to a..z, right?
  1230. 2012-05-10T23:25:50 <maya_> yes
  1231. 2012-05-10T23:26:02 <jessie> Yup.
  1232. 2012-05-10T23:26:03 <kluge> in this one? I know some were a = 1
  1233. 2012-05-10T23:26:09 <kluge> ok thanks
  1234. 2012-05-10T23:26:13 <maya_> a = 0
  1235. 2012-05-10T23:26:23 <maya_> for this one
  1236. 2012-05-10T23:28:46 <jessie> God, #umbra turned into a shithole.
  1237. 2012-05-10T23:29:17 <maya_> its a different umbra
  1238. 2012-05-10T23:29:19 <Sorgens> Kinda
  1239. 2012-05-10T23:32:34 <kluge> lol ugh
  1240. 2012-05-10T23:32:39 <kluge> they do it the other way around
  1241. 2012-05-10T23:32:53 <Sorgens> What do you mean?
  1242. 2012-05-10T23:33:07 <kluge> backward, they are subtracting modulo 26 for encryption, adding modulo 26 for decryption
  1243. 2012-05-10T23:33:12 <kluge> instead of adding/subtracting
  1244. 2012-05-10T23:33:17 <kluge> lol works now
  1245. 2012-05-10T23:33:21 <kluge> will have to remember to check that
  1246. 2012-05-10T23:33:24 <Sorgens> The UMBRA transmissions so far are decoded using the decryption algorithm instead of the encryption one.
  1247. 2012-05-10T23:33:45 <jessie> Mmm... Right. There's playfair and vigenere and they are oppisites.
  1248. 2012-05-10T23:34:09 <Sorgens> Umbra's Vigeneres are solved using encryption...
  1249. 2012-05-10T23:34:21 <Sorgens> Playfair is untouched, that uses the regular decyption process.
  1250. 2012-05-10T23:34:43 <jessie> Maybe I am remembering wrong. I haven't had a bunch of time to dedicate to decryption.
  1251. 2012-05-10T23:38:06 <jessie> Time to pull some pudd and then hit the hay.
  1252. 2012-05-10T23:41:13 <kluge> "look at me now got no rd no...eton?"
  1253. 2012-05-10T23:42:13 <maya_> i think he just put gibberish in there
  1254. 2012-05-10T23:42:33 <kluge> might be other ciphercrap
  1255. 2012-05-10T23:43:00 <maya_> dont think so, probly just missing some of the key. but we have the answer so im going with he inserted gibberish to put us off his trail
  1256. 2012-05-10T23:43:50 <maya_> in umbra theyr planning to call charon and spam him
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  1258. 2012-05-10T23:45:25 <jessie> I know. We need him to change his number and get that one.
  1259. 2012-05-10T23:46:03 <jessie> The one question I want answered the next time we are in contact with him is "Why us?"
  1260. 2012-05-10T23:46:10 <jessie> If they are government, why did they pick us?
  1261. 2012-05-10T23:46:22 <karma> because we wanted to
  1262. 2012-05-10T23:46:27 <karma> ?
  1263. 2012-05-10T23:47:22 <kluge> it's a game :p
  1264. 2012-05-10T23:47:56 <kluge> it's gotta be
  1265. 2012-05-10T23:48:50 <karma> you sound so convinced =/
  1266. 2012-05-10T23:49:00 <maya_> jessie we picked them
  1267. 2012-05-10T23:50:17 <jessie> Doesn't make any sense. Why bring civilians into this?
  1268. 2012-05-10T23:50:38 <maya_> guess we'll find out
  1269. 2012-05-10T23:51:03 <kluge> cause it's a game :p
  1270. 2012-05-10T23:51:10 <kluge> I do feel pretty convinced of this
  1271. 2012-05-10T23:51:21 <kluge> not certain, but fairly certain
  1272. 2012-05-10T23:51:24 <karma> this is like Lost
  1273. 2012-05-10T23:51:34 <karma> but not tedious and not as nonsensical
  1274. 2012-05-10T23:51:38 <kluge> well they're talking about mysterious 'devices' in the transmission and stuff
  1275. 2012-05-10T23:51:44 <kluge> mind-altering devices
  1276. 2012-05-10T23:51:50 <karma> HAARP duh
  1277. 2012-05-10T23:51:59 <karma> :P
  1278. 2012-05-10T23:51:59 <jessie> Makes sense to me, karma
  1279. 2012-05-10T23:52:02 <kluge> yes, in other words, nonsense sci fi
  1280. 2012-05-10T23:52:13 <kluge> conspiracy theory fun for a game
  1281. 2012-05-10T23:52:28 <jessie> <Humean> charlie one umbra is the unit
  1282. 2012-05-10T23:52:42 <jessie> Delta Force is usually called The Unit. Especially by insiders.
  1283. 2012-05-10T23:53:26 <kluge> it's not called anything
  1284. 2012-05-10T23:53:29 <kluge> nameless
  1285. 2012-05-10T23:53:48 <kluge> but yeah, doesn't matter, why use any encryption at all if one is going to use something so trivial?
  1286. 2012-05-10T23:54:08 <maya_> because were civilians
  1287. 2012-05-10T23:54:23 <kluge> it's not as if anything they say is so so so very time importantly critical that the 30 seconds of some legitimate cryptanalyst would be enough of a delay to render the information useless
  1288. 2012-05-10T23:54:40 <kluge> they might as well just post plaintext
  1289. 2012-05-10T23:54:42 <kluge> it is a game
  1290. 2012-05-10T23:54:59 <kluge> because if it's not, this is a slipshod ridiculous operation
  1291. 2012-05-10T23:55:35 <karma> I think it's a hybrid
  1292. 2012-05-10T23:55:39 <karma> half game half reality
  1293. 2012-05-10T23:55:51 <karma> now it's about discerning what is what
  1294. 2012-05-10T23:55:55 <jessie> Training mission for our friends in the military?
  1295. 2012-05-10T23:56:29 <kluge> entrapment to catch insurgents?
  1296. 2012-05-10T23:56:58 <kluge> a web for a particular type of mindset they hope to ensnare to bolster their numbers?
  1297. 2012-05-10T23:57:22 <kluge> all I'm saying is, if this is not a game, then none of us wants any part of it because it is bad and incompetent
  1298. 2012-05-10T23:57:35 <kluge> or a lure
  1299. 2012-05-10T23:57:56 <maya_> well if its just a game, y make a private channel
  1300. 2012-05-10T23:58:17 <kluge> because we are playing a game to win?
  1301. 2012-05-10T23:58:26 <maya_> winning a game with no prize
  1302. 2012-05-10T23:58:30 <kluge> sure
  1303. 2012-05-10T23:58:34 <kluge> what's the prize of winning a video game?
  1304. 2012-05-10T23:58:43 <kluge> 5 hours of your life gone
  1305. 2012-05-10T23:58:45 <kluge> sleep deprivation?
  1306. 2012-05-10T23:59:00 <kluge> a false sense of accomplishment in an otherwise dreary existence? I donno
  1307. 2012-05-10T23:59:04 <kluge> diversion, it's entertainment
  1308. 2012-05-10T23:59:31 <kluge> yet it's a multibillion dollar industry for a reason
  1309. 2012-05-11T00:02:22 <kluge> seriously, there are cup stacking competitions...contests...wehre children go...to see how fast they can stack plastic...cups
  1310. 2012-05-11T00:02:27 <kluge> why
  1311. 2012-05-11T00:02:30 <kluge> they train
  1312. 2012-05-11T00:02:33 <kluge> they train for hours
  1313. 2012-05-11T00:02:53 <kluge> is this worthwhile? what's the point? you're the best plastic competitive cup stacker if you win
  1314. 2012-05-11T00:02:55 <kluge> it's a game
  1315. 2012-05-11T00:03:00 <karma> #umbra is a disaster
  1316. 2012-05-11T00:03:19 <kluge> too much noise you think?
  1317. 2012-05-11T00:03:31 <maya_> ya
  1318. 2012-05-11T00:03:37 <karma> too much /r/conspiracy :)
  1319. 2012-05-11T00:03:53 <kluge> haha
  1320. 2012-05-11T00:03:54 <maya_> u looking at what theyr talking about?
  1321. 2012-05-11T00:04:05 <kluge> nah, I wasn't payin attention
  1322. 2012-05-11T00:04:10 <kluge> just saw the dia comment
  1323. 2012-05-11T00:04:12 <kluge> blucifer <3
  1324. 2012-05-11T00:05:08 <jessie> It's a joke. :-/
  1325. 2012-05-11T00:05:10 <maya_> OHH thats what they call the horse
  1326. 2012-05-11T00:05:22 <maya_> i always referred to it as apocalypse pony
  1327. 2012-05-11T00:05:24 <kluge> yes
  1328. 2012-05-11T00:05:31 <kluge> it's called 'blucifer' colloquially
  1329. 2012-05-11T00:05:33 <jessie> Well, bed time. Night all, we'll see you in the morning.
  1330. 2012-05-11T00:05:36 <kluge> later jessie
  1331. 2012-05-11T00:05:37 <maya_> night jessie
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  1333. 2012-05-11T00:15:32 <kluge> so what is your guys backgrounds
  1334. 2012-05-11T00:15:41 <kluge> academia? students?
  1335. 2012-05-11T00:15:56 <kluge> don't really expect an answer but curious if there is one to give
  1336. 2012-05-11T00:16:09 <maya_> college student
  1337. 2012-05-11T00:16:19 <maya_> taking digital animation :)
  1338. 2012-05-11T00:16:26 <kluge> cool
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  1341. 2012-05-11T00:32:47 <kluge> AHA
  1342. 2012-05-11T00:32:52 <kluge> got the scrambled part
  1343. 2012-05-11T00:32:54 <kluge> first part
  1344. 2012-05-11T00:33:01 <kluge> key is not 'TOTALECLIPSEOFTHESTARS"
  1345. 2012-05-11T00:33:15 <kluge> it is "TOTALECLIPSEOFTHETRUTH"
  1346. 2012-05-11T00:33:16 <kluge> so far
  1347. 2012-05-11T00:34:27 <kluge> hold on, will paste what I have
  1348. 2012-05-11T00:35:57 <maya_> nice catch
  1349. 2012-05-11T00:35:58 <maya_> i see it
  1350. 2012-05-11T00:36:53 <kluge> LOOK AT ME NOW GOT NO RELIGION LOOK AT ME NOW IM SO VACANT LOOK AT ME NOW I WAS A VIRGIN LOOK AT ME NOW GREW UP TO BE A WHORE AND I WANT IT I BELIEVE IT IM A MILLION DIFFERENT THINGS AND NOT ONE YOU KNOW HEY AND OUR MOMMIES ARE LOST NOW HEY DADDYS SOMEONE ELSE HEY WE LOVE THE ABUSE BECAUSE IT MAKES US FEEL LIKE WE ARE NEEDED NOW BUT I KNOW I WANNA DISAPPEAR I WANNA DIE
  1351. 2012-05-11T00:36:54 <kluge> so far
  1352. 2012-05-11T00:37:24 <kluge> that's the full key too, I think
  1353. 2012-05-11T00:37:34 <kluge> the second part of the message is shifted i believe
  1354. 2012-05-11T00:38:02 <maya_> looks like it
  1355. 2012-05-11T00:38:49 <kluge> did you get the second part yet
  1356. 2012-05-11T00:39:38 <maya_> nope havent started
  1357. 2012-05-11T00:39:44 <maya_> its a fake message
  1358. 2012-05-11T00:40:00 <maya_> made by some1 faking being the fake umbra
  1359. 2012-05-11T00:40:11 <kluge> yes
  1360. 2012-05-11T00:40:29 <kluge> hmm maybe second part is a different key
  1361. 2012-05-11T00:40:38 <maya_> thats what i think
  1362. 2012-05-11T00:40:51 <maya_> the 48 separates ot
  1363. 2012-05-11T00:43:46 <kluge> ah so maybe 2 other separate keys
  1364. 2012-05-11T00:44:21 <maya_> PRETTY SURE it does
  1365. 2012-05-11T00:44:25 <maya_> 90% sure
  1366. 2012-05-11T00:45:42 <kluge> yeah, different key for the second half definitely
  1367. 2012-05-11T00:45:49 <kluge> I just tested every shift of the eclipse one with it
  1368. 2012-05-11T00:46:07 <kluge> hmm
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  1374. CSURV TRANSFERS WIRETAP RESPONSIBILITY TEAM IN ALTERNATE LOCATION.
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  1384. [01:01] <C1UMBRACharon> Virgil's on the move.
  1385. [01:01] <iIIustrious> Is that good news or bad in this case?
  1386. [01:02] <C1UMBRACharon> Depends. If she hits us with an automated broadcast in the next hour, it's a good thing. She's staying unpredictable.
  1387. [01:02] <iIIustrious> Not alot around to decrypt, time zones and all, but we'll do what we can if we get one
  1388. [01:02] <C1UMBRACharon> If not, there's not much we can do for her. Not even I know where she is, most times.
  1389. [01:03] <nnothingg> wtf
  1390. [01:03] <iIIustrious> We've looked in to the noises from the device, no luck so far. Were hoping for an image to go on, but that's less likely if virgil's not in contact
  1391. [01:04] <C1UMBRACharon> I'm heading north to my Air Force contact. With any luck, we'll have a picture of the device by this time tomorrow. It's in their control now.
  1392. [01:04] <nnothingg> So C1UMBRACharon ... we need more evidence that this is any kind of real :)
  1393. [01:04] <nnothingg> ty
  1394. [01:05] <iIIustrious> we'll hope we're lucky then
  1395. [01:05] <C1UMBRACharon> I'll get right on that man
  1396. [01:05] <iIIustrious> We're logging the channel, so if there's any info to pass on, people should get it when they're back
  1397. [01:06] <kluge> how about something one of us can give to you, that you can tell whoever makes the audio, to sign their broadcasts with
  1398. [01:06] <iIIustrious> we had more fake transmissions today, but they're looking harmless. Someones bad joke
  1399. [01:06] <kluge> that only one of us knows
  1400. [01:06] <nnothingg> C1UMBRACharon why were the codes first on 4chan?
  1401. [01:07] <C1UMBRACharon> Remember that the transmissions come from C1Umbra only. No codes will go through an IRC.
  1402. [01:07] <C1UMBRACharon> Or some other website.
  1403. [01:07] <C1UMBRACharon> Or an instant messenger.
  1404. [01:07] <nnothingg> Ok so , again, what can you do for us, to provide further evidence that this is beyond a game, or ARG
  1405. [01:09] <C1UMBRACharon> Not really much I've got time for, guy.
  1406. [01:09] <nnothingg> I see...
  1407. [01:09] <kluge> I just wanna say this is like the coolest ARG I've seen
  1408. [01:09] <iIIustrious> We're watching for transmissions either way.
  1409. [01:10] <nnothingg> LOL
  1410. [01:10] <nnothingg> kluge: shut up lol
  1411. [01:10] <kluge> what, I'm serious
  1412. [01:10] <kluge> :/
  1413. [01:10] <nnothingg> yes the game itself is interesting to follow
  1414. [01:10] <nnothingg> but i naturally hate 4chan , so their involvement in the game's background makes me puke;)
  1415. [01:11] <kluge> so all the irc stuff is not c1umbra
  1416. [01:11] <kluge> oh well
  1417. [01:12] <kluge> what noises from the device are you referring to?
  1418. [01:12] <iIIustrious> Is there any other information about the device that would be safe to divulge? We're really flying blind on that
  1419. [01:12] <kluge> I haven't heard o that
  1420. [01:12] <iIIustrious> if we need to wait for a safe transmission, that's understandable
  1421. [01:12] <iIIustrious> Just don't want to waste the time we have
  1422. [01:13] <iIIustrious> Or, failing that, is there another angle we should be approaching it for the time being? There's only so much we can collect on aleph and aum membership
  1423. [01:14] <nnothingg> Yeah, some have been following this for over a month...
  1424. [01:14] <C1UMBRACharon> All I've got is that this grey metal box with kanji all over the side freaks people out when they try to sleep.
  1425. [01:15] <kluge> do you have the kanji
  1426. [01:15] <iIIustrious> nothing weird while they're awake?
  1427. [01:15] <@Sorgens> Charon
  1428. [01:15] <C1UMBRACharon> It's heavy, vibrates pretty frequently, and people are scared to death of the damn thing.
  1429. [01:15] <@Sorgens> Is the Quebec drop still sceduled?
  1430. [01:15] <iIIustrious> that's something, thanks
  1431. [01:15] <iIIustrious> kluge if we get that picture, it'll have the kanji
  1432. [01:15] <C1UMBRACharon> I'll shout at Virgil about it. I don't have that information for you, Sorg.
  1433. [01:15] <kluge> yeah that's what I'd like
  1434. [01:16] <@Sorgens> Because we don't know of anyone from here in the Quebec area
  1435. [01:16] <@Sorgens> We hace a few in Vancouver.
  1436. [01:16] <iIIustrious> I do
  1437. [01:16] <kluge> are there any other drops noncoastal
  1438. [01:16] <kluge> ever
  1439. [01:16] <nnothingg> some of us want free flashdrives damnit
  1440. [01:16] <kluge> hint colorado hint
  1441. [01:17] <kluge> I just wanna do something like that, would be cool
  1442. [01:17] <C1UMBRACharon> Guess we'll find out if I suddenly catch five tickets to Vancouver, or wherever else.
  1443. [01:17] <kluge> haha fair
  1444. [01:17] <@Sorgens> 5?
  1445. [01:17] <@Sorgens> You're with a team, then?
  1446. [01:17] <C1UMBRACharon> Course I am.
  1447. [01:17] <kluge> so virgil is female
  1448. [01:18] <nnothingg> Sounds... interesting
  1449. [01:18] <@Sorgens> Heh, I was hoping you to be a one man army.
  1450. [01:18] <C1UMBRACharon> Virgil's a gal.
  1451. [01:18] <kluge> had assumed male by the name, and we were thinking young kid by the numbers
  1452. [01:18] <iIIustrious> that's sort of old news kluge. You gotta keep up on the logs, lol
  1453. [01:18] <C1UMBRACharon> Hah. Don't worry, I can take care of business. That being said, teams have more fun.
  1454. [01:18] <nnothingg> it's a codename kluge damn you!
  1455. [01:18] <nnothingg> ;>
  1456. [01:19] <kluge> iIIustrious, yeah well I just read the doc :x
  1457. [01:19] <kluge> this is first time I've seen Charon
  1458. [01:19] <iIIustrious> Anything more you need from us while we wait to hear from Virgil?
  1459. [01:19] <@Sorgens> Is Sarin gas involved in any of this?
  1460. [01:19] <kluge> yeah, should I be worried about what the wrong person would think if they didn't know what was going on here
  1461. [01:19] <C1UMBRACharon> Fuckin' hope not. I just got the new model of field mask, and to be honest, I don't know how to use the thing.
  1462. [01:19] <kluge> cause like, irc is monitored
  1463. [01:20] <nnothingg> so 4chan has infiltrated the military:O
  1464. [01:20] <iIIustrious> that's most of why we're leaving the particularily sensitive information to the transmissions, I would suspect
  1465. [01:21] <@Sorgens> Well, if a drop is to happen in Canada, the Vancouver area is covered by us.
  1466. [01:21] <iIIustrious> You did recieve and pass on the list of areas containing operatives/
  1467. [01:21] <iIIustrious> ?
  1468. [01:22] <kluge> is this in the docs?
  1469. [01:22] <C1UMBRACharon> Operatives are pretty well everywhere. Only places without them are Australia, the whole of Africa and Antarctica, far as I know.
  1470. [01:22] <iIIustrious> ... Good coverage
  1471. [01:22] <nnothingg> C1UMBRACharon: Shadow Government, Illuminati, their involvement, what of it ?
  1472. [01:22] <@Sorgens> I am still confused as to why make these transmission available to the public, even though they are encrypted.
  1473. [01:23] <C1UMBRACharon> Shadow Government's a neat word for "The guys in charge after we get good and fucked up".
  1474. [01:23] <C1UMBRACharon> Hopefully they don't have a damn thing to do with any of this.
  1475. [01:23] <@Sorgens> Are we actually helping?
  1476. [01:23] <C1UMBRACharon> Illuminati seems to be the go-to for things that are difficult to explain. Never seen any real evidence of it, aside from rich guys running the show.
  1477. [01:23] <nnothingg> Well sure, that is an acceptable idea after sufficient evidence is presented.
  1478. [01:24] <C1UMBRACharon> So far, it looks like Virgil's been trying to get you all up to speed.
  1479. [01:24] <C1UMBRACharon> What the hell she's got planned yet...dunno.
  1480. [01:25] <kluge> so only transmissions from the spreaker account?
  1481. [01:25] <kluge> no c1umbra anywhere else
  1482. [01:25] <kluge> are legit
  1483. [01:25] <nnothingg> no actual short wave freq or something
  1484. [01:26] <kluge> just want to make sure
  1485. [01:26] <C1UMBRACharon> Short wave can be triangulated pretty easily unless you're using 1 watt transmissions.
  1486. [01:27] <C1UMBRACharon> In which case, you're not going to reach a sizable audience.
  1487. [01:27] <nnothingg> and what of kluge's question?
  1488. [01:28] <kluge> I guess, let me revise
  1489. [01:28] <C1UMBRACharon> The videos on the youtube are mine. I submit to Virgil, she uploads after...censorship.
  1490. [01:28] <nnothingg> ah....
  1491. [01:28] <kluge> ok nm
  1492. [01:28] <nnothingg> Interesting
  1493. [01:28] <kluge> hmm
  1494. [01:29] <nnothingg> so you're the one who did the hand gesture
  1495. [01:29] <nnothingg> I thought that hand gesture was almost symbolic for something, held meaning
  1496. [01:29] <C1UMBRACharon> Did I flip you the bird or something?
  1497. [01:29] <nnothingg> no... you opened your hand slowly to show the palm of it
  1498. [01:29] <nnothingg> in the glove
  1499. [01:29] <@Sorgens> Just a question, why are you using marpat camo in Video #1?
  1500. [01:30] <@Sorgens> Is it possible to know the locations of the videos?
  1501. [01:30] <C1UMBRACharon> Nothingg: heat cramps, doxy, and the shit they shot me up with had me doing that all day.
  1502. [01:30] <nnothingg> I see.
  1503. [01:31] <C1UMBRACharon> Sorg: Marpat is some of the most effective camo out there. The Army wants it, the Navy loves it so much they made it blue...whatever.
  1504. [01:31] <C1UMBRACharon> Moreover, local terrorist groups don't pop off at the Marines too often.
  1505. [01:31] <C1UMBRACharon> Location is the Philippines. Can't say much more than that.
  1506. [01:31] <@Sorgens> Understood
  1507. [01:31] <nnothingg> hm
  1508. [01:33] <@Sorgens> What is the EMLCOA?
  1509. [01:33] <kluge> or empcoa or emdcoa ?
  1510. [01:33] <kluge> bad key perhaps?
  1511. [01:33] <C1UMBRACharon> Sure you don't mean EMPCOA? Enemy's most probable course of action?
  1512. [01:33] <kluge> aha
  1513. [01:33] * kluge better check glossary again
  1514. [01:33] <@Sorgens> Ah, I meant likely... but yes
  1515. [01:34] <C1UMBRACharon> Enemy's most probable course of action is the route you think the bad guy's going to take. Enemy's most dangerous course of action includes the route the enemy could take to most effectively fuck you and your buddies up.
  1516. [01:34] <@Sorgens> emdcoa is dangerous course of action...
  1517. [01:34] <C1UMBRACharon> Doesn't necessarily mean death.
  1518. [01:35] <kluge> interesting
  1519. [01:35] <nnothingg> so how many more weeks ?
  1520. [01:35] <C1UMBRACharon> If they hit supply routes, obtained US uniforms and killed a bunch of children, it would really fuck up our public relations, wouldn't it?
  1521. [01:35] <C1UMBRACharon> You're being vague, N. What are you asking me?
  1522. [01:36] <nnothingg> Of transmissions, how long is this expected to be maintained
  1523. [01:36] <nnothingg> and the whole..story of it
  1524. [01:36] <kluge> do you advise that we go to any drops armed?
  1525. [01:36] <C1UMBRACharon> How long until you're done? I don't know. Myself, I'll be here, doing that thing I do.
  1526. [01:37] <kluge> conceiled carry or such?
  1527. [01:37] <C1UMBRACharon> If you feel threatened, go for it. If you're being directed to a drop by an official transmission, I wouldn't worry about it. That's what Wetworks are for.
  1528. [01:37] <C1UMBRACharon> If you're being directed by Virgil, likelihood is that I've already been there and approved the location for a drop.
  1529. [01:38] <nnothingg> Someone ask him something... PRESS ON
  1530. [01:38] <iIIustrious> I'm out of safe questions until we know more to research
  1531. [01:39] <C1UMBRACharon> Here's something.
  1532. [01:39] <C1UMBRACharon> How many people have disappeared in civilized countries in recent history? Is the number going up, or down?
  1533. [01:39] <nnothingg> lol
  1534. [01:39] <kluge> probably up since population is going up
  1535. [01:39] <kluge> but I donno
  1536. [01:40] <C1UMBRACharon> Schizophrenia rates are pretty interesting to look at, too.
  1537. [01:40] <nnothingg> ok so what are you getting at
  1538. [01:40] <iIIustrious> Up as a factor of population will be different then up on top of increased population
  1539. [01:40] <kluge> do you think these devices influence mental health?
  1540. [01:40] <iIIustrious> I'll work some numbers
  1541. [01:40] <C1UMBRACharon> Can't imagine a night's sleep while a bunch of voices rattle off in my head.
  1542. [01:41] <C1UMBRACharon> Doubt it's any good for your state of mind.
  1543. [01:41] <iIIustrious> Heh. Should I be looking since, or before p. artichoke
  1544. [01:41] <nnothingg> In one of the SSTV images, there is a blurry one t hat is identified as a possible army tent, what is it
  1545. [01:42] <C1UMBRACharon> I don't know that I've seen what you're talking about. Do you have it on hand?
  1546. [01:42] <nnothingg> and the SSTV image of the cave... what of it ?
  1547. [01:42] <@Sorgens> It's not an SSTV
  1548. [01:42] <nnothingg> oh?
  1549. [01:42] <@Sorgens> IT is one of the still frames in Video #1
  1550. [01:42] <nnothingg> oh damn ok hm
  1551. [01:42] <nnothingg> and the cave? what is that one
  1552. [01:43] <C1UMBRACharon> It's a bunch of freaks in a cave.
  1553. [01:43] <C1UMBRACharon> I wasn't there, so I don't know what the hell they're talking about.
  1554. [01:43] <C1UMBRACharon> Doesn't look like cave admirers anonymous.
  1555. [01:43] <nnothingg> Bah
  1556. [01:44] <nnothingg> What time is it C1UMBRACharon ?
  1557. [01:44] <@Sorgens> Silly, kinda off topic question: what does the marksman in your team carry?
  1558. [01:44] <nnothingg> seriously im asking
  1559. [01:44] <C1UMBRACharon> 1743
  1560. [01:44] <nnothingg> hm
  1561. [01:44] <C1UMBRACharon> The marksman carries the DM Mk12, unless we're expected seriously close quarters.
  1562. [01:45] <C1UMBRACharon> expecting^
  1563. [01:45] <C1UMBRACharon> Heavier barrel, suppressor, no-shit hunting scope. LR ammo, too. No ball for that guy.
  1564. [01:45] <C1UMBRACharon> Fucks with your BZO unless you've been using it non-stop.
  1565. [01:46] <nnothingg> So who is faking irc shit ?
  1566. [01:47] <iIIustrious> It's a few guys from there who won't let go of a band joke
  1567. [01:47] <C1UMBRACharon> Couldn't tell you. Haven't been around for it, and that's not really my domain.
  1568. [01:48] <@Sorgens> Is it possible to contact Virgil directly?
  1569. [01:48] <C1UMBRACharon> Yeah, but it's not likely that she'll reply.
  1570. [01:48] <C1UMBRACharon> If you've got a question for her, let me know, and I'll pass it on. Even the bra-size related ones.
  1571. [01:49] <@Sorgens> Like we've been doing? Posting the message in the spreaker account?
  1572. [01:49] <C1UMBRACharon> Yeah. Like I said though, she's not likely to respond.
  1573. [01:49] <nnothingg> I want a picture of Virgil, asap
  1574. [01:49] <kluge> lol nnothingg
  1575. [01:49] <kluge> stfu
  1576. [01:49] <C1UMBRACharon> Good luck on that one, pal. Let me know when you get it
  1577. [01:50] <nnothingg> heh
  1578. [01:50] <nnothingg> No harm in asking/demanding
  1579. [01:50] <nnothingg> psh
  1580. [01:50] <C1UMBRACharon> No blame from this guy.
  1581. [01:50] <iIIustrious> So it would be better to let you know questions for her. Do you prefer here, when you're active, or should we be using the phone number?
  1582. [01:51] <C1UMBRACharon> Either way's fine for me. Just know that there's going to be periods of time where I'll be completely out of contact.
  1583. [01:51] <iIIustrious> I supsect the number's got a lot of spam since it was made public
  1584. [01:51] <C1UMBRACharon> Actually
  1585. [01:51] <C1UMBRACharon> Just a lot of girls calling
  1586. [01:51] <C1UMBRACharon> Do you guys send the girls because they're girls?
  1587. [01:51] <iIIustrious> Heh. Some of those were ours. Mostly they volunteered
  1588. [01:51] <kluge> I think they just decided cause they like the phone or something
  1589. [01:51] <nnothingg> lol
  1590. [01:52] <iIIustrious> They said something about your voice, too...
  1591. [01:52] <@Sorgens> the girls?
  1592. [01:52] <C1UMBRACharon> Ever had a really bad hangover and your phone just kept ringing?
  1593. [01:52] <nnothingg> 1 girl.
  1594. [01:52] <iIIustrious> Yeah. This morning
  1595. [01:52] <@Sorgens> As far as I know, we only have one girl.
  1596. [01:52] <nnothingg> right...i think
  1597. [01:52] <C1UMBRACharon> Two that I answered
  1598. [01:52] <iIIustrious> anon form the other channel tried too
  1599. [01:52] <kluge> I turn the ringer off
  1600. [01:52] <C1UMBRACharon> Both asked me the same qestion
  1601. [01:52] <nnothingg> two?
  1602. [01:52] <C1UMBRACharon> question^
  1603. [01:52] <nnothingg> hm
  1604. [01:53] <kluge> did either give you a name?
  1605. [01:53] <C1UMBRACharon> Nope. Both sounded like they were going to cry, though.
  1606. [01:54] <kluge> what was their second question
  1607. [01:54] <iIIustrious> It was maya and anon. They were both pretty nervous. Not really a suprise
  1608. [01:54] <kluge> okay
  1609. [01:54] <C1UMBRACharon> Suppose not.
  1610. [01:54] <kluge> were you pissed when they woke you up all hungover
  1611. [01:54] <C1UMBRACharon> I was already awake, so it wasn't a big deal.
  1612. [01:55] <C1UMBRACharon> Not like I had that much to do today, anyway.
  1613. [01:55] <C1UMBRACharon> Threw some CLP on the rifles and scrubbed them down, went over the AARs with the team. Tomorrow's when the work begins.
  1614. [01:56] <kluge> I would have prepared a list of questions had I known there'd be a meeting
  1615. [01:56] <kluge> so you have a 5 man team
  1616. [01:56] <C1UMBRACharon> 6, counting myself.
  1617. [01:56] <nnothingg> are a bunch of marine individuals running this and ultimately laughing at the norm civilians they're trolling?
  1618. [01:56] <C1UMBRACharon> 5 operators, one medic.
  1619. [01:56] <kluge> there are other teams, do the teams know about one another?
  1620. [01:57] <C1UMBRACharon> Marine individuals make me think of mermaids.
  1621. [01:57] <kluge> haha
  1622. [01:57] <nnothingg> Cute but..
  1623. [01:57] <nnothingg> so yes?
  1624. [01:57] <C1UMBRACharon> Sorry, Sherlock. Keep hunting.
  1625. [01:58] <nnothingg> Well i can only go so far with the available evidence:)
  1626. [01:58] <C1UMBRACharon> Yes, the teams know -of- each other. We train together on occasion.
  1627. [01:58] <nnothingg> which is not so much convincing tht it is beyond a game
  1628. [01:59] <C1UMBRACharon> I have no idea why "black ops team scours the world killing cultists" isn't number one on your possibilities list, N.
  1629. [01:59] <C1UMBRACharon> Seriously though. Keep looking.
  1630. [02:00] <nnothingg> Anywho. Ill expect SSTV images of Virgin ASAP
  1631. [02:00] <iIIustrious> Virgil? freudian slip?
  1632. [02:00] <C1UMBRACharon> VirgIL.
  1633. [02:00] <kluge> nah he meant it, he's like that
  1634. [02:00] <nnothingg> oh right
  1635. [02:00] <nnothingg> fuck you all i hvent slept much in the last 2 days
  1636. [02:00] <nnothingg> heh
  1637. [02:01] == maya-afk [415e648f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.94.100.143] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
  1638. [02:01] <C1UMBRACharon> Why the hell not?
  1639. [02:01] <kluge> "black ops teams scouring world killing cultists" would be a great headline
  1640. [02:01] <nnothingg> Cause that's how I roll.
  1641. [02:01] <iIIustrious> Fwiw, simply by the raw stats, population has increased roughly 25% in 30 years in the states, cases of disapearances have by around 350%-400, depending on the stats
  1642. [02:01] <kluge> cause we've been rivetted by this
  1643. [02:01] <nnothingg> Right on kluge
  1644. [02:01] <C1UMBRACharon> Roll into the grave, more like. That'll take years off your life.
  1645. [02:02] <kluge> yeah true
  1646. [02:02] <kluge> stress
  1647. [02:02] <kluge> anyway
  1648. [02:02] <@Sorgens> When Transmission 24 came out
  1649. [02:02] <iIIustrious> I'll have to check other crimes and calculate error based on a bias against reporting in previous years...
  1650. [02:02] <@Sorgens> I didn't sleep for 48 hours trying to decode it.
  1651. [02:02] <nnothingg> more like.. Rick Roll into the grave?..amirite..
  1652. [02:02] <C1UMBRACharon> Neat sidenote here. I should say something cryptic and scary and make you figure this out, but that's more Virgil's thing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States
  1653. [02:03] <nnothingg> lol
  1654. [02:03] <iIIustrious> wow
  1655. [02:03] <iIIustrious> this'll be a fun read
  1656. [02:03] <iIIustrious> ...
  1657. [02:03] <nnothingg> im sure ive come across that one
  1658. [02:03] <C1UMBRACharon> Just about every serious advancement in medical science is the result of some creep kidnapping and slowly murdering some hapless chap.
  1659. [02:03] <nnothingg> in the past.
  1660. [02:03] <kluge> tuskegee is the one I always hear about
  1661. [02:04] <C1UMBRACharon> Nasty stuff.
  1662. [02:04] <kluge> yeah
  1663. [02:04] <iIIustrious> well, time for another sapporo if I'm getting through this one tonight. Thanks for the nudge in the right direction, Charon
  1664. [02:04] <kluge> I used to hear a lot about MKULTRA on art bell
  1665. [02:04] <@Sorgens> Ichiban?
  1666. [02:04] <kluge> yeah kirin plz
  1667. [02:04] <C1UMBRACharon> No prob. I'll be all over some Orion here in a bit. Okinawa's Sapporo.
  1668. [02:05] <iIIustrious> Yeah, I tried Orion, didn't change the preference though
  1669. [02:05] <C1UMBRACharon> What about Southern Star Orion?
  1670. [02:06] <iIIustrious> Don't think so
  1671. [02:06] <C1UMBRACharon> It's probably pretty expensive where you are (if you can find it) but it's got a pretty...full taste.
  1672. [02:06] <kluge> chimay
  1673. [02:06] <C1UMBRACharon> Chimay, no kidding.
  1674. [02:06] <C1UMBRACharon> Who doesn't like ale brewed by random ass monks?
  1675. [02:06] <kluge> love that stuff
  1676. [02:07] <kluge> yeah exactly
  1677. [02:07] <iIIustrious> Yeah, I'm lucky to be near one of the non-japanese sapporo breweries. might be why it grew on me, it's as cheep as the local stuff
  1678. [02:07] <iIIustrious> And in the midst of all this, there's still always time for beer talk!
  1679. [02:07] <C1UMBRACharon> Good stuff after a day of sweating. Goes down like water.
  1680. [02:08] <C1UMBRACharon> I was just waiting for you stiffs to quit talking about work.
  1681. [02:08] <kluge> C1UMBRACharon, have you ever heard people talk about mkultra who experienced it?
  1682. [02:08] <kluge> who you believe or can verify it
  1683. [02:08] <C1UMBRACharon> Not that I can recall, and I'm sure I'd remember something like that.
  1684. [02:09] <iIIustrious> There are some pretty famous ones kluge. Remember Ted Kaczynski?
  1685. [02:09] <C1UMBRACharon> What I can say is that the guys in charge of the military in the past weren't all that worried about human life.
  1686. [02:09] <kluge> iIIustrious, yes, I know well about him actually
  1687. [02:09] <C1UMBRACharon> Nowadays, you can't smoke a guy charging your convoy on a motorcycle, no matter what he looks like.
  1688. [02:09] <kluge> hmm
  1689. [02:12] <iIIustrious> I'm gonna be working through this article, everyone. Let me know if I miss anything, or we hear from Virgil
  1690. [02:12] <iIIustrious> nevermind
  1691. [02:12] <iIIustrious> new transmission up
  1692. [02:12] <C1UMBRACharon> Good news there.
  1693. [02:13] <@Sorgens> I will trancribe it as always
  1694. [02:13] <kluge> I gotta say, this is pretty cool and if it's promoting something, there should be a sequel to it anyway
  1695. [02:13] <@Sorgens> Starting now.
  1696. [02:13] <C1UMBRACharon> Good luck with all that. I'm no windtalker.
  1697. [02:13] <iIIustrious> So much niver once I know what the song is...
  1698. [02:13] <@Sorgens> I gotta say, that being the agnostic person that I am, I still dount the authenticity of this, but personally, I really hope this is true
  1699. [02:14] <kluge> it's a game man, but a really cool one
  1700. [02:14] <iIIustrious> Different robo-voice again
  1701. [02:14] <C1UMBRACharon> I'm out, en route to northern Okinawa. I'll be out of contact for almost 24 hours.
  1702. [02:14] <kluge> later Charon
  1703. [02:14] <C1UMBRACharon> Keep your heads on. Out.
  1704. [02:15] <iIIustrious> Good luck, hopefully we'll have good new for you
  1705. [02:15] == C1UMBRACharon [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 12.0/20120420145725]]
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