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GS1+GS2 "100%" No S&Q FAQ

Sep 28th, 2019
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  1. What is going on?
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  3. GS1 + GS2 back to back, No S&Q, "100%".
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  5. Despite the category being formally known as "No Save and Quit", strictly speaking the rules only say that you can't load a save, so even with the data transfer we're in the clear! The basic intent on No S&Q is that is disallowed RNG manipulation you get a "vanilla" GS experience.
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  7. I will use one save state at Navampa only because he can randomly crit Isaac and then the whole run dies.
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  9. What is "100%"
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  11. Who knows. I've decided for the purposes of this run that this means:
  12. - All Djinn by the end of TLA
  13. - All Summons by the end of TLA
  14. - All Psynergy Items by the end of TLA
  15. - All class changing items by the end of TLA
  16. - All transferable quests unlocked in GS1 and viewed in TLA
  17. - Defeat Dullahan
  18. - View the Kraden cutscene (Kappa)
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  20. But that isn't really 100%
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  22. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ categories are hard.
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  24. Why are you doing X but not Y?
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  26. In GS1 I'm basically following what is / is not transferred via a password. To this end, a Bronze PW transfers the transferable quests, psynergy items, and djinn. So all of these are a requirement and anything not one of these three things (such as saving the Bilibin Barricade tree girl) are excluded.
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  28. In TLA I'm basically following the same kind of idea. The non-negotiables are: Psynergy Items, Djinn, Summons, while we add on Dullahan because he's like Deadbeard (a transferable Quest), Class changing items (people think they're important, but they're just artifacts at the end of the day :lostcap:) and hidden Kraden cutscene (strictly for the memes). I leave out the Alhafra hungry kid because GS1 considers some NPC interactions as less important (such as tree girl) so if the NPC interaction doesn't give a djinn reward we won't do it.
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  30. Why didn't you get all the djinn in GS1?! omg run invalid.
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  32. This category is about having everything at the end of TLA. I can miss one djinn of each element in GS1 if it is faster. Sap & Tonic take about two minutes each to collect under optimal circumstances vs 30s or so in TLA, so they're deferred to TLA.
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  34. What is the retreat glitch?
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  36. Lower your PP below 6, attempt to use retreat while bound to L or R, it fails. However the game still executes the Area change that would have gone along with retreat despite you still being in the room where retreat was cast. As GS looks up area transitions relative to the room the game thinks you are in, this allows for a bunch of wrong warps. Good times.
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  38. What strategies are you using for this run?
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  40. Procne :3
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  42. Seriously?
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  44. Kinda. Procne eventually gets replaced by Judgement in GS1 and Eclipse in GS2. We get so strong in GS2 that eventually we can use the Ninja class to go fast, but mostly summons will be used throughout.
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  46. What password is being used?
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  48. Whatever the Bronze level password is that is obtained at the end of the GS1 portion. Bronze is chosen because of the Bronze Password glitch which gives all transferred characters 28 levels worth of stats, regardless of whatever level the party is. Since we're underlevelled coming out of GS1 this is a nice stats boost. It's also the shortest password so helps with my sanity (we're excluding the timing of entering the password from the run as to not penalize someone who wants to use a Gold Password).
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  50. Are classes important?
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  52. Almost always no.
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  54. What items are important?
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  56. Elven Shirt (go fast), Wild Coat (go fast), Golden Boots (go fast), Gaia Blade (more powerful summons), Sol Blade (hit hard).
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  58. Why is Felix called y~~~~?
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  60. Felix's name determines the puzzles in Gabomba Statue, Gaia Rock and Trial Road. y~~~~ actually isn't optimal for this category (second visit to trial road loses about 16s) but I'm too lazy to learn a new Gaia rock route.
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  62. How did you get the Sol Blade?
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  64. Using the retreat glitch you can pull the Sol Blade from the Psynergy Stone at the entrance of Airs Rock -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIdt53_mqXQ
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  66. How did you get Iris?
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  68. Retreat glitch on the Dragon Skin chest - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFvWDkaU0AE
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  70. How did you make a river go into the heart of Atteka?
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  72. See https://goldensunwiki.net/wiki/Atteka#The_Magic_River for the tldr, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4k1VhOiUEU for a video on the glitch explaining it, http://forum.goldensunhacking.net/index.php?topic=2867.0 for the "why this works"
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  74. Where can I learn more?
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  76. https://speedrun.com/gsun & https://speedrun.com/gsuntla and while you're there check out the discord https://discordapp.com/invite/QWwxrmN
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  78. This didn't answer any of my questions.
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  80. Cool. Ask in chat. I don't bite.
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