Wulf says:
 You were right. I also won't lie how I've said that to a few last night before your PM.
David says:
 hi
Wulf says:
 Long time no chat.
David says:
 yep
 so you didnt take my advice
 lmfao
Wulf says:
 I heeded your warning. I was just too lenient with Narolf. I admit it's a fault.
David says:
 want to explain why?
Wulf says:
 Something I aim to rectify.
David says:
 have you talked to mass?
Wulf says:
 I'm surprised I was able to get his attention. He's been out for nearly three months.
David says:
 What has he said
Wulf says:
 He's currently reading the wall of text, I believe. He skimmed it originally. It's highly unlikely he'll even consider Narolf's proposal.
David says:
 your going to demote him right?
Wulf says:
 I believe that's exactly what's going to happen. If Mass won't ban him outright.
David says:
 Honestly i had my outburst on the forum
 but i didnt publicly
 do what Narolf did
 lmfao
Wulf says:
 Though, I highly doubt that demoting him will do much.
David says:
 Demoting him will just show who is in charge
 because honestly
 you got a lot of people on narolf
 Like i said day 1
Wulf says:
 Yeah.
David says:
 What has the staff said about the situation
 or what is going to happen
Wulf says:
 Nothing in public or even staff. Alot of the staff are simply not available this time of year.
David says:
 Well what are you planning to do
 I can give you my advice
Wulf says:
 If Mass won't beat me to it, I'll demote him myself after I post in there. Though really, Narolf chose a bad timing cause this is not on my list of concerns at the moment.
David says:
 Well
 what do you expect
 this guy is psychotic
 im a psychologist major afterall
 and i can tell you
 he is depress
 He isnt stable
Wulf says:
 He sure doesn't sound like it.
 *doesn't like he is stable, I mean.
David says:
 I heard a lot from people and people still chat with me
 and I c an tell you
 that he is having a dilema on what is important to himself in life
 and im going to be straight here
 if waking up for a forum is your pleasure in life like he stated
 something
 is
 wrong
Wulf says:
 That's when I no longer had doubts about this stability.
 *his
 I'm usually online during evening hours.
David says:
 I had doubts about him ever since i left
 I even told you guys about it
Wulf says:
 And I still see him up rather late during his time. 4 hours later (which I assume is sleep), he's back up on the forum around 8am his time.
David says:
 also
 Lonelygaruga off topic
 is depress as well
 i heard stories about his family
 and how he feels left out
 etc
 etc
 which is why garuga follows narolf
 halla falls in the same category
 see the trend?
Wulf says:
 Unfortunately, I don't know the other two that well.
David says:
 well
 people spread the word to me
 so i just laugh about it
Wulf says:
 So I can't be the judge. But Garuga does sound alot like Narolf through his posts.
 Halla's not as active as Garuga.
David says:
 welll not on the forums
 but on the irc
 but point is
 do you agree or believe what Narolf is saying
 I hope you don't
Wulf says:
 His entire post is riddled with half truths and assumptions.
 He's greedy.
 He even went to a point to say that he values power over ethics or morals.
David says:
 thats what happens when you are depress
 and have issues with your father
 he fail in getting a job
 Narolf - 12-01-2012 01:38 PM

    Well, I've given them my resume and my motivation letter on my birthday. Waited for eight days without response so I went to eat there two days ago and asked them altogether. They told me I'll either get a call if they want to hire me or they will send my letters back if they don't.

    Probably not an ideal path per se, but according to my father, Americans are

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Narolf - 12-01-2012 01:38 PM

    Well, I've given them my resume and my motivation letter on my birthday. Waited for eight days without response so I went to eat there two days ago and asked them altogether. They told me I'll either get a call if they want to hire me or they will send my letters back if they don't.

    Probably not an ideal path per se, but according to my father, Americans are

David says:
 let me show you something
 sec
Wulf says:
 At this rate, his judgement and his morals really concern me.
 So if you think we'll be negotiating terms with him, then no. That won't happen.
 I'm currently wondering how to deal with the aftermath mostly.
 Cause Narolf isn't planning on disappearing.
David says:

Narolf - 11-21-2012 02:20 AM

    Thanks! And so I do. Going to apply for Mcdonald's on tomorrow, first time trying to get a job after years of studying. At 21, I've never worked yet.


  Narolf - 12-01-2012 01:38 PM

    Well, I've given them my resume and my motivation letter on my birthday. Waited for eight days without response so I went to eat there two days ago and asked them altogether. They told me I'll either get a call if they want to hire me or they will send my letters back if they don't.


Probably not an ideal path per se, but according to my father, Americans are much more tolerant of each one's career. Nowadays in France, if you start working at 18, you're a social failure, and if you don't have any qualification by the age of 20, you've failed at life. I'm caricaturing of course, it's not like what goes on in Asian countries either, but you get the idea.
 When someone cannot get a job at McD
 SOMETHING IS CLEARLY WRONG
Wulf says:
 LOL
David says:
 My point is
 i hope you disregard what he is saying
 cause honestly its just his psychotic break
 You dont need to worry about the aftermath
 what you can do
 is
 Set up that tournament your planning to have
 set a 1month date to it
 so it gives time for it to disappear
 all the amniosity and power hungry frenchie he is
 But at this point
Wulf says:
 That's pretty much the idea.
David says:
 MY best thing would to
 Demote him
 beacuse this clearly is a slap to your guys face
 and since you didnt do it sooner
 yea it willl be hectic
 so its the internet
 what is going to happen?
 nothing
 people will still come to DFF
 people wont leave
 people know its where people play or talk about DFF
Wulf says:
 You're absolutely right. And it's also the course of action I'm seeking.
David says:
 after the demotion
 all you can do is
 damage control
 tell kraid to please void any topic regarding the subject
 and handling this matter through Pms
Wulf says:
 Thanks for the support, Dave.
David says:
 Honestly
 The best course of actions
 is actually taking the demotion and posting something positive
 not negative
 you dont want to look like the bad guy
 even though
 people with brains can realize how psychotic this individual is
 and how profound he is to live his life on a forum that will not further his career or life
Wulf says:
 And here I thought I was going crazy.
David says:
 Why?
Wulf says:
 Seeing the people support him, I asked that to myself. Can't they see that he's unstable? Or was it just me who thought that.
David says:
 Well
 you didnt listen to me
 I knew it was going to happen
 When people same something in common such as depression
 it only clings to other individuals
 I foresaw this eversince i left
 but what you need to understand
 even though they have an disorder
 that should prevent you to do what you need to do
 shouldnt*
Wulf says:
 You understand people better than I do. I, like a fool, though reason would be enough.
David says:
 you were late to take my advice so the aftermath will bad
 but it will disappear
 Well i have a degree in psychology
 so I can pick up on people's typing or from what people tell me
 with little information
 Like honestly
 you guys shouldnt be intimated by this
 Instead you just carry out your duties cause even if things go hectic its still the interwebs
 and the only people that will be truly frustrated are the ones in the thread
 which in time will go away
 narolf might hate Mass forever since its new focus to be happy in life
 but others that are normal will just forget about it
 Narolf has basically all the power he needs to run tournaments
 all he wants is to be accepted and to be apperciated from individuals
 to feel accomplish which will help with his depression symptons
 Does narolf really need to be a Admin?
 no
 he can run tournaments etc etc
 he can do whatever
 he just wants more power and more feeling of gratification
 he is just using Mass as a scape goat as this was a common issue in the past
Wulf says:
 I know.
 And you pretty much voiced my own thoughts regarding the situation.
David says:
 But i sense you feel afraid about the matter
 or uncertain at least
Wulf says:
 Not really. I am reluctant sure, but only because I like to think through what I say.
 But not cause I'm unsure of the action.
 Last night, I had the news pass to me that one of my family members passed away. So this hasn't really been the top of my concerns.
David says:
 Which thankfully isnt
Wulf says:
 The family member was outside the states, and the bonds were old. But well...in perspective the problem barely seems like one at all to me.
David says:
 Im just saying this is just a silly matteer that shouldnt stress you or mass a lot about it
Wulf says:
 It went as far as me thinking on the day I read it that it wasn't worth my attention, really. And that Narolf didn't deserve a well thought out response from me.
David says:
 Exact;y
 There are a lot of more important matters to attend to but Narolf does not understand that concept
 which leads to his disorder he has
 which is why he is depress for most of his life time
 until now because he can take action into accomplish a goal so he can feel happy towards his father
 to gain acceptance at least
Wulf says:
 Well, at the very least, thanks for quieting my doubts.
David says:
 my best advice is to take action quickly
 to calm the matter
 instead of prolonging it
 He needs to be demoted because all he is doing is gaining acceptance from forum members through the IRc or some other forms of communcation
Wulf says:
 It should be done shortly.
David says:
 because if you wait longer
 its just gonna be worst
 and its better to deal with it instead of making you guys look like terrible mods
 you know?
Wulf says:
 Yep.
David says:
 for the chaos afterwards
 just close the thread
Wulf says:
 I find it so ironic that it was Narolf throwing around the word neurosis.
David says:
 and have your remaining thoughts about the situation
 yep lol
 He proclaims he knows psychology
 but clearly he doesnt
 make sure your closing statement is positive
 and nothing disrespecting narolf
 something like
 I apperciate your concern and your enthusiastic behavior
 but etc etc
 and after a week after this dies down
 you can do that tournament you want
 and wait for a month for it to start
 so it gets calm down
 again dont stress out about it
 since again its stupid and dumb just make sure you take action fast instead of later
 and also talk to mass now if you can
 seems like he is on
Wulf says:
 He is.
 I've already talked to him about it. You know how he is.
 A man of a few words.
David says:
 Sorry gotta post that image
 to express confusion into Narolf
 im done after that
 you can finish that thread and close it
Wulf says:
 lmao.
David says:
 but hopefully my advice helps you out
 i wouldnt even give him retired mod
 since he needs to understand what he done
Wulf says:
 It has. Thanks, Dave.
David says:
 Just make sure to stay strong
 and dont let this bother you or mass
 fuck that kid
Wulf says:
 lol. Don't worry about that.
 Only thing I'm worried about is that I have to actually put my time into this.
David says:
 just put time into ur last message
 and try to get draec in charge
 you dont want halla
 or lonely
 or someone around narolf
 to change things
 cause it will just happen again
 trust me
Wulf says:
 Draec is more or less in charge when it comes to global tournaments and NA tournies.
David says:
 just let me do things
 err
 him
 not me
 lol
Wulf says:
 lmao
David says:
 just make sure its not one of narolfs subjects
 cause people with share common personalities and opinion usually repeats itself
Wulf says:
 I started noticing that trend.
David says:
 so just be weary of that
 happening again
 cause the casual club
 will basically try to overtake things
 but trust me
 that shit isnt going anywhere
 Just so you all guys know, I'm not leaving despite of the demotion. I'm actually staying for a lot of time still.
 uhh
 like i said
 this is either a ban
 or
 temp ban
 idk what you guys want to do
 because sounds like
 shit is going get serious soon
Wulf says:
 Well. Gonna take time with my post.
David says:
 thats fine
 but I mean in regards to Narolf though
 because you know whats gonna happen next right?
Wulf says:
 I think the community needs to be addressed here more than anything.
 What?
David says:
 Narolf is either going to start convincing more members of the forum
 with accusations such as his post
 making DF look worst get it?
 All the members that dont post regularly are getting an awful image of the brand DF
 its like when a woman goes to a store and yells for a lower price a LV bag
 you know she is just upseting the brand's name
 Narolf is probably going to start more commotion about this stupid matter
 and the best way to handle it
 is a perm or temp ban
 until he calms down to his normal senses
 to be honest i feel the forum is doing him a lot of harm to his health in terms of his psyche
Wulf says:
 Around 3/4 hours of sleep a night? Always on 24/7. I'd say that's about right.
David says:
 yea
 so
 honestly banning him
Wulf says:
 I tried it once in my last semester of college, when all I was doing was studying and sleep three hours a night. Not a pretty picture.
David says:
 would HELP his health
 which he honestly needs
 like yea mikee is very loud in terms of voicing his opinion
 even axel
 but they do have a sense of what is normal and what is stupid as hell
 he is honestly putting too much of his life into these forums. I mean its good to visit it once in a while but
 making your life as its thing
 is terrible so
 I think tis a win win for you guys as well
 Hey spyder
 when u get back
 you need to ban
 Narolf
 I check his visitors message
 its in french but i got someone to translate
 he is planning to do something about a new site and getting information from your site
 like i told you
Wulf says:
 Just finished the first draft.
David says:
 yea im just warning you spyder
Wulf says:
 Though I can't say it's detailed at all. But it's the best I could do right now.
David says:
 i viewed his visitors message
Wulf says:
 Posted.
 Thanks again, Dave.
David says:
 yep
 just please
 take my advice on banning him
 because if you dont
 things will get bad
 trust me
Wulf says:
 How much you think we should give him?
David says:
 What do you mean?
Wulf says:
 How much time off should we give him?
David says:
 time till things calm down
 give it 2months at least
 let the first tournament end
 until***
 you can ban him until he fixes his life issues
 which needs to be address
 because he will attack mass
 and you know this is true
 from his claims of hating him as much as his own father
 END QUOTE
Wulf says:
 He's got issues.
David says:
 So please do yourself and mass a favor
 and listen to me
 on this
Wulf says:
 Especially when I remember him saying something about how there's an FF villain in his life.
David says:
 exactly
 im off for now as i gotta attend some dota 2 scrims with me team and head to the gy
 but please take my advice on this
 i told mass about it as well
 so hopefully you guys can make the right choice
Wulf says:
 Thanks, Dave.
 Take care of yourself.
 o/