[9:18:14 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): Look, Joey the most I can offer is a genuine apology for how we handled our shit.
We probably could've discussed why we thought we couldn't tell you and came to a consensus or agreement or whatever but I blocked you  from coming in, it wasn't Karasu's idea to do it.
It wasn't that we didn't trust you personally, we just thought that talking about what we were discussing publically would lead to leaks of info and bad things would happen.
What we were talking about was was basically kicking everyone that makes Maplemation bad.

I mean it as much as I possibly can that I never meant to hurt you or anyone else despite doing so.
I really mean it.

I understand if you don't want to come back or talk to me.

Sorry.
[9:21:18 PM] Sylvain Delacroix: What we were talking about was was basically kicking everyone that makes Maplemation bad.I was already aware of this, and if I had a mind to inform anyone in the public of what was happening, I would've already done it.
[9:22:31 PM] Sylvain Delacroix: I just don't know what made you guys abruptly stop trusting me out of nowhere.
[9:22:42 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): Like I said, it wasn't personal.
[9:22:43 PM] Sylvain Delacroix: Something must've done it, and I want to know what it was.
[9:22:53 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): You have done nothing wrong.
[9:23:09 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): We kept everyone out not just you.
[9:23:49 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): Like you said you would've told everyone if you had a mind to, we would've had a mind to tell you that we had trust issues with you if we all did.
[9:24:07 PM | Edited 9:25:43 PM] Sylvain Delacroix: The fact still stands that you didn't trust me with being in that group.
[9:24:13 PM] Sylvain Delacroix: I don't care if you were impartial about it.
[9:25:06 PM] Sylvain Delacroix: I'll always be here to talk in PM, but I'm still not coming back as long as there's private channels.
[9:25:32 PM] Sylvain Delacroix: If this was a public group or something, I'd understand the reason for having them.
[9:26:37 PM | Edited 9:31:38 PM] Sylvain Delacroix: But giving privilege to a select group of individuals over others in a fucking FRIENDS' GROUP is dirtier than the shit under my shoes.
[9:34:23 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): Fine, so long as you come back.
[9:34:26 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): It's gone.
[9:35:26 PM] Sylvain Delacroix: Do you even understand what was wrong about it?
[9:35:36 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): No, I get it.
[9:35:46 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): I just didn't think it was that big of a deal that you'd leave about it.
[9:35:50 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): I imagine you'd PM me about it.
[9:35:55 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): I heard you tried talking to Neil
[9:35:59 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): and he just shut you down.
[9:36:12 PM] Sylvain Delacroix: He just said "don't worry about it" when I asked
[9:36:18 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): I really would've prefered if you sought out more than one of us.
[9:36:19 PM] Sylvain Delacroix: and yeah, shut me down when I persisted
[9:36:38 PM | Edited 9:36:34 PM] Sylvain Delacroix: I don't have the patience for shitty double-standards, Warren.
[9:39:29 PM] Sylvain Delacroix: If something like this ever happens again, I'm not giving any of you the time of day.
[9:39:59 PM] Sylvain Delacroix: The only thing that pisses me off as much as friends lying to me is my own friends implementing bogus double standards.
[9:40:15 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): Woah, woah, woah.
[9:40:19 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): When did we lie?
[9:40:25 PM] Sylvain Delacroix: I'm not saying you lied.
[9:40:40 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): Oh.
[9:40:43 PM] Sylvain Delacroix: I'm saying that it's something that pisses me off. Generally speaking.
[9:42:34 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): I really wasn't trying to do all of that stuff you were talking about.
[9:42:54 PM] Sylvain Delacroix: Yeah, you don't try to be inconsiderate.
[9:43:03 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): I honestly thought it wouldn't have bothered anyone that we were just talking in there about this and once we were done it would be done with.
[9:43:11 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): And everything would go back to normal.
[9:44:10 PM] Sylvain Delacroix: It's different when you get the shit end of the stick.
[9:45:08 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): I probably should've thought more about how you and probably how everyone else felt.
[9:45:12 PM] Sylvain Delacroix: Just give me a day or two to think about whether or not I want to come back.
[9:59:38 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): There's something nipping at me.
[10:00:10 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): Neil said that you would've brought this up sooner if you had a problem with it before, but you only brought it up after your access had gotten taken away.
[10:00:35 PM] Sylvain Delacroix: It's different when you get the shit end of the stick.
[10:00:49 PM] Sylvain Delacroix: You know, I should've said something about it before.
[10:01:00 PM] Sylvain Delacroix: But once I realized I was deliberately excluded, that really set me off.
[10:02:21 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): What stopped you from doing anything?
[10:02:43 PM] Sylvain Delacroix: I wasn't provoked to do something about it because I wasn't getting
[10:02:43 PM] Sylvain Delacroix: the shit end of the stick.
[10:04:32 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): I think everyone who wasn't already given access was given the shit end of the stick to be honest.
[10:04:50 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): I don't know how you were allowed to just walk in before
[10:04:54 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): But I remeber originally
[10:05:00 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): when someone who was brought in
[10:05:05 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): who wasn't the original group of people
[10:05:10 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): they had to be undeafened
[10:05:14 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): and unmuted to speak
[10:05:17 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): and then after everything was done
[10:05:23 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): they left of their own accord
[10:05:34 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): or we moved them when they were done talking about serious stuff
[10:05:39 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): and it turned into regular talk
[10:08:47 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): Then again, I guess that doesn't really mean anything now.
[10:09:17 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): I was just saying that because you were the only one who felt really strongly against this.
[10:09:26 PM] Sylvain Delacroix: I actually wasn't.
[10:09:34 PM] Sylvain Delacroix: Silver and Sarah were pissed about it as well.
[10:09:49 PM] Sylvain Delacroix: They were just afraid of getting the dick for approaching you all about it.
[10:10:11 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): I was about to ask why would we dick them
[10:10:19 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): but that just brings me back to what Neil did.
[10:10:33 PM] Sylvain Delacroix: It wouldn't be the first time you guys have 1v4 no gang'd someone.
[10:11:16 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): I don't think we would've ganged you.
If you all felt strongly about it you could've come in together to voice your opinions.
[10:11:27 PM] Sylvain Delacroix: I wouldn't have cared either way.
[10:11:37 PM] Sylvain Delacroix: Sarah's been 1v4 no gang'd before, though.
[10:12:34 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): I don't entirely remember what it was about but it probably happened.
[10:13:08 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): I don't think if you spoke to all of us we would've been like, "this is it, no discussion, fuck you"
[10:13:48 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): Though it was wrong to leave people out of stuff.
[10:14:41 PM | Edited 10:14:43 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): We're all good friends with reasonably good heads on our shoulders so there was no real reason to hide anything if we explicitly state don't go spreading it around.
[10:15:10 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): I dunno, I was mostly thinking negatively
[10:15:22 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): because there was finallly a chance to remove all the faggots from MM
[10:15:30 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): and I wanted to make sure nothing went wrong
[10:15:36 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): so I was sort of suspicious of everyone.
[10:15:59 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): I really want what we're doing to work.
[10:16:17 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): Chris finally got banned, Kazuma's banned, and Derek is gone too.
[10:16:54 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): I also kind of wanted it to be a surprise for you, and all the other people that lost faith in the site
[10:16:58 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): that there was something to be salvaged.
[10:17:04 PM] Sylvain Delacroix: Karasu told me about it before.
[10:17:17 PM] Sylvain Delacroix: I'm glad he didn't feel the need to tell you that I was aware of it before I was excluded.
[10:17:26 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): I thought you had no idea.
[10:18:50 PM] Sylvain Delacroix: Fucking wonderful.
[10:18:59 PM] Sylvain Delacroix: Karasu himself went to me asking me for ideas on who to ban!
[10:20:23 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): My skype went all not responding
[10:20:26 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): I was trying to say
[10:20:33 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): that I thought based on what I did
[10:20:36 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): since we did the same thing
[10:20:44 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): you would've put two and two together
[10:20:51 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): but I didn't really assume anything
[10:21:00 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): and thought because you said you didn't give two shits about MM
[10:21:09 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): you wouldn't have thought about it
[10:21:30 PM] Sylvain Delacroix: I don't give a shit about MM.
[10:21:39 PM] Sylvain Delacroix: The fact I was excluded for such a shitty reason is what bothers me.
[10:22:36 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): Neil wants to know why does it matter.
[10:23:01 PM] Sylvain Delacroix: Oh my fucking god.
[10:25:38 PM] ↻Warren Arkwright↻ ( ಠ╭╮ಠ ): Yeah, you don't have to answer that.