DGMurdockIII

(11:35:17) (DGMurdockIII) (pcgod): can you take a look at this http://crash-stats.instantbird.com/report/index/bp-f52857eb-15c2-45f2-9226-055be2100928
(11:35:42) (DGMurdockIII) (pcgod): Instantbird 0.3a1pre Crash Report [@ mumble_ol.dll@0x8bf4 ]
(11:37:10) (fwaggle) DGMurdockIII: unless you specifically want the overlay, add it to the blacklist for the mumble overlay
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(11:37:56) (DGMurdockIII) i dont even see the overlay on that app
(11:39:07) (DGMurdockIII) the way the overlay work now i thnk it need alot of work so you dont have blocklist ever app the apps you dont want to use
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(11:45:59) (krejler) pcgod: Not sure.. Did you figure it out?
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(11:46:25) (@pcgod) krejler: huh?
(11:46:25) (krejler) pcgod: My gut feeling would be that the definition would also need (at least) the inline keyword, not just the declaration...
(11:46:43) (krejler) pcgod: clang thing :)
(11:47:33) (@pcgod) krejler: afaik extern inline is not in the c++ standard and it does different things in C89 and C99 ...
(11:48:10) (krejler) ...
(11:48:34) (krejler) I tried to copy a line from a C++98 spec I found via Google (probably a draft...)
(11:48:43) (@pcgod) for C code Clang defaults to the C99 inline rules and GCC to the C89 inline rules but the parameter to change Clangs inline handling doesn't work for clang++
(11:48:48) (krejler) "Without the owner password, you may not copy from this PDF file..."
(11:49:32) (krejler) Anyway, C++ spec says: "If a function with external linkage is declared inline in one translation unit, it sahll be inline an all translation units in which it appears; no diagnostic is required."
(11:49:48) (@pcgod) "C++: A function that is inline anywhere must be inline everywhere, with the same definition. The compiler/linker will sort out multiple instances of the symbol. There is no definition of "static inline" or "extern inline", though many compilers have them (typically following the gnu89 model)."
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(11:51:38) (@pcgod) the problem is that boost uses a similar construct and it breaks linking even simple examples :)
(11:52:35) (@pcgod) (e.g. #include <boost/asio/impl/error.ipp> in 2 files -> linker error)
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(12:01:27) (MumBotty) Good news from sf: mkrautz pushed 1 commit(s) to refs/heads/master in the mumble-iphoneos Git repository of the Mumble project <http://mumble.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=mumble/mumble-iphoneos;a=commit;h=cc36609>
(12:07:28) (MumBotty) Good news from sf: mkrautz pushed 1 commit(s) to refs/heads/master in the mumble-iphoneos Git repository of the Mumble project <http://mumble.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=mumble/mumble-iphoneos;a=commit;h=dc9e581>
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(12:36:46) (DGMurdockIII) (pcgod): can you take a look at this http://crash-stats.instantbird.com/report/index/bp-f52857eb-15c2-45f2-9226-055be2100928 did you look at this
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(12:46:02) (gabrielcz) Hi !
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(12:54:41) (@pcgod) DGMurdockIII: can't repro with latest instantbird nightly
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(12:55:10) (DGMurdockIII) (pcgod): repo?
(12:55:14) (@pcgod) (but directwrite also doesn't work for me in instantbird)
(12:55:54) (DGMurdockIII) ok
(12:57:17) (DGMurdockIII) if you can join the mozilla irc server then join the instantbird channel they will like to help try to figger out what is causing mumble to make instantbird crash and fix it or if it somthing you guys have to do
(12:57:32) (DGMurdockIII) irc.mozilla.org (6667)
(12:57:56) (DGMurdockIII) channel #instantbird
(12:58:34) (DGMurdockIII) if you going to join the channel i'll let them know
(13:00:46) (DGMurdockIII) (pcgod): let me know if your going to join it they dont know much about mumble to fix it or they told me they would have tryed to make a temp patch in instantbird till it fixed in mumble
(13:01:39) (@pcgod) DGMurdockIII: try if it still happens with the latest instantbird version (the version in the crash report is 5 days old) :)
(13:01:48) (@pcgod) because it doesn't crash for me with the latest version
(13:02:16) (@pcgod) (and if they added a workaround a link to the source revision would be useful)
(13:02:42) (DGMurdockIII) http://crash-stats.instantbird.com/report/index/bp-f52857eb-15c2-45f2-9226-055be2100928
(13:02:51) (DGMurdockIII) it not 5 days old
(13:03:20) (DGMurdockIII) Time 	2010-09-28 23:48:45.937139
(13:05:00) (DGMurdockIII) the one i sent before may have been 5 days old
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(13:05:32) (DGMurdockIII) but anyway did you look in to the copy link bug any more
(13:06:27) (frore) has anyone here used the drupal mumble viewer? http://drupal.org/project/drumbleViewer I can't find anywhere to specify the ICE secret word
(13:08:44) (frore) or it not, can see where it could be specified in here so that it would work: http://pastebin.com/qTXk44jm
(13:08:53) (fwaggle) DGMurdockIII: how do you repeat the crash?
(13:11:09) (DGMurdockIII) the instantbird crash happens when i have it open and i also have aactive im windows open not one just open one with text in it and on mumble but instantbird crashes when eather im talking or someone else is not sure if i9t me or someone else
(13:12:16) (fwaggle) what version of mumble?
(13:12:38) (fwaggle) i can't reproduce it either :(
(13:12:55) (fwaggle) win7/x86, mumble snapshots, latest stable instantbird
(13:13:03) (DGMurdockIII) lastest snapshot
(13:13:06) (DGMurdockIII) verson
(13:13:32) (DGMurdockIII) not the stable verson of mumble it hase to be the nightly verson of instant
(13:13:41) (DGMurdockIII) instantbird
(13:16:13) (DGMurdockIII) windows 7 64bit
(13:16:29) (DGMurdockIII) opps
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(13:17:04) (DGMurdockIII) i ment to say not the stable of instantbird the nightly verson of instantbird
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(13:21:55) (@pcgod) version 0.3a1pre (20100930041458) ... is the latest version :)
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(13:34:37) (fwaggle) DGMurdockIII: mine is crashing, but doesn't appear to be mumble related
(13:35:19) (DGMurdockIII) did you send the crash report in
(13:35:27) (fwaggle) yes
(13:35:31) (fwaggle) how do i inspect them?
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(13:36:03) (J3ns0_nR) hi
(13:36:05) (DGMurdockIII) im trying to get the command
(13:36:10) (DGMurdockIII) befose i forgot
(13:36:23) (DGMurdockIII) ok
(13:36:31) (DGMurdockIII) openDialog("about:crashes"); in the Error console
(13:36:38) (DGMurdockIII) just click tools
(13:36:42) (DGMurdockIII) to get them
(13:36:55) (DGMurdockIII) openDialog("about:crashes") then hit enter
(13:38:34) (DGMurdockIII) did that work
(13:39:07) (DGMurdockIII) (fwaggle): did that work
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(13:55:55) (fwaggle) DGMurdockIII: no they're not coming up
(13:56:07) (DGMurdockIII) ok
(13:56:09) (fwaggle) i see my reports in the dialog, i click on them it opens in firefox and i get an "invalid method" error
(13:56:45) (@pcgod) I get an error for almost every request on crash-stats.instantbird.com ...
(13:57:16) (DGMurdockIII) you may have to wait a few hours for the bug to fully summied to site
(13:57:23) (DGMurdockIII) as it a littel delayed
(13:58:27) (Funkeh`) any way to define a default channel so people dont enter on the lobby?
(14:00:37) (frore) I was able to using a web interface, if you're talking about just a base install with the .ini file and client I don't think so
(14:01:21) (@pcgod) add default_channel=<channel id> to the ini file...
(14:02:59) (frore) how can you get a channel's ID?
(14:03:49) (fwaggle) frore: guesswork, a mumble-viewer (via ice), or join it and then look in the log for a number at the end of the "moved channel" line
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(14:20:27) (fwaggle) scoar, finally got this kernel up and stable... setup murmur on it
(14:20:38) (fwaggle) let's see if it doesn't blow up now ;)
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(14:26:17) (keshav) good luck fwaggle :)
(14:26:51) (keshav) What are the different possible uses for an application like mumble, other than gaming? Just wondering...
(14:27:06) (fwaggle) keshav: some folks are using it for podcasting
(14:27:22) (fwaggle) a client of mine is using it for transmitting morse-code to each other
(14:27:33) (keshav) ha, wow.
(14:27:47) (keshav) I'm gonna use it for podcasting as well, but only for interviews.
(14:27:56) (fwaggle) then i'm not sure if they ever bought a server from me, but one guy was looking to replace a conference call system for his business with a mumble/teamspeak server
(14:28:26) (keshav) I see.
(14:28:30) (fwaggle) yeah, people use the local-record feature and then broadcast the podcast later, after editing it.. but they do the interviews or multi-person podcasts with mumble
(14:30:06) (keshav) do you know of any program (windows) that records mumble conversations (for those which didnt take place on 1.2.3) ?
(14:31:06) (keshav) BEcause 1.2.3 should be coming with recording support, and my host, mumblespot.com aint getting it until its stable
(14:32:20) (fwaggle) keshav: does your host use git or stable?
(14:32:31) (fwaggle) if they're like me, and they build from git, you can record anyway
(14:32:48) (fwaggle) but there are things like virtual audio cables or wahtever they called
(14:32:52) (fwaggle) that let you record from mumble
(14:33:04) (keshav) I'll look into it.
(14:33:12) (keshav) But yeah, I can't record I checked.
(14:33:23) (fwaggle) :(
(14:39:52) (Funkeh`) pcgod, so if i had made 1 channel i'd assume it's ID would be 1?
(14:41:42) (Funkeh`) just confirming that default_channel=1 is a standard entry
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