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#fishmafia
	<Mind>	do you think of any guys
	<Mind>	that could be mafia
	<Agape>	nah
	<Agape>	havent talked much
	<Agape>	too much rtm
	<Eo>	I think mind is mafia
	<RB-Golbat>	i wanna have the inspector check explorer ace
	<Mind>	why eo
	<Mind>	dude
	<Mind>	why that
	<RB-Golbat>	cause i dont trust his win condition
	<Mind>	explorer ace is gone
	<Eo>	EA died
	<Eo>	do you mean askaninjask?
	<Mind>	Dear ExplorerAce
	<Mind>	You are the Sea Urchin
	<Mind>	You are the demise of both divers and fish, and will not move from where your life begins. Your size range can vary, even though the main part of the body is tiny, the spikes make up for it in gargantuan .proportion. And these spikes will push you forward into success, if all goes well.
	<Mind>	Once per night, you can send the hosts (Dogfish44 & Raverist) a Pm saying ?Night X ? Grabbing USER? where USER is the Smogon account name of that person. The user, no matter how big, will be caught between your spikes, and unable to move a muscle. Naturally, moving there mouth would also be included as to not move. If they talk, they will be killed.
	<RB-Golbat>	wait
	<Mind>	You know your fellow Mafioso?s are:
	<Eo>	mind
	<Eo>	you showed up as mafia
	<RB-Golbat>	i meant the netural
	<Eo>	on the inspector's results
	<Mind>	eo
	<Mind>	i explained it to rbg
	<Eo>	I know
	<Eo>	can you show us your full role pm then?
	<Mind>	sec
	<RB-Golbat>	well eo
	<RB-Golbat>	you havent shown me any sort of role yet
	<Eo>	I am aware of that
	<Eo>	but you already told me who mind was anyway
	<Mind>	>_>
	<Mind>	rbg
	<Mind>	>_>
	<Mind>	eo
	<Mind>	why don't you claim to rbg
	<RB-Golbat>	you dont need to do it publically
	<Eo>	because he has an inconsistency in his role pm
	<Agape>	Pms have inconsistencies
	<Eo>	but all the other PMs are consistent
	<Eo>	Once per night, you can send the hosts (Dogfish44 & Raverist) a Pm saying ?
	<Eo>	is the part in question
	<Agape>	to make them more difficult to fake
	<Agape>	at least I'd do that
	<Eo>	well I'm just being cautious
	<Eo>	anyway mind do you have your PM?
	<Mind>	yes
	<Mind>	but
	<Mind>	you should claim to rbg first
	<Eo>	you might as well show it to me
	<Eo>	I already know your role
	<Eo>	"suicide vigilante"
	<Eo>	or whatever you want to call it
	<Mind>	but you should claim to rbg
	<RB-Golbat>	please and tahnk you
	<Eo>	I'm not until I get more confirmation
	<RB-Golbat>	what more do you need?
	<RB-Golbat>	mind has claimed to me
	<Eo>	mind was also inspected
	<Mind>	everybody has claimed to rbg
	<Eo>	agape have you?
	<Agape>	?
	<Agape>	playing rmt
	<Eo>	have you claimed?
	<Eo>	so am I
	<Agape>	yes
	<Eo>	well mind if everyone's claimed you probably have all the claims you need then
	<Eo>	mind
	<Mind>	what
	<Eo>	I've told you why I don't want to claim
	<Mind>	but rbg
	<Eo>	now why won't you show your PM?
	<Mind>	is the fucking village leader
	<RB-Golbat>	just a sec
	<Eo>	village leaders have turned out to be mafia
	<RB-Golbat>	im torn between 3 thigns right now
	<Eo>	mind
	<Mind>	yes
	<Eo>	why won't you show your PM seeing as I already know your role?
	<Mind>	ok sec
	<Mind>	ok
	<RB-Golbat>	well we don't even know your role eo
	<Eo>	I've given you reasons why I'm not claiming
	<Eo>	whereas mind has no reason not to show me his role PM seeing as you've already told me his role
	<Eo>	(unless he doesn't have a fake PM on hand)
	<RB-Golbat>	then we have no more reason to show you anything else
	<Agape>	If you want an united village you should all claim
	<Eo>	you do
	<Agape>	so that on death
	<Eo>	it's to convince me that you're clean
	<Agape>	spreadsheets can be passed
	<Agape>	to trusted people
	<Eo>	agape: I want a united village but I want to make sure we aren't moled
	<Agape>	yeah I understand
	<Eo>	agape don't you think it's a reasonable request for me to ask mind to post his role pm?
	<Agape>	for mind, yes
	<Agape>	but also for every clean people without a proper reason
	<Eo>	er what?
	<Eo>	my point is: I know mind's role
	<Eo>	or what he claims his roles is
	<Agape>	I just meant that everyone needs to claim at some point :P
	<Agape>	so why take time
	<Eo>	that's not my point
	<Eo>	mind
	<RB-Golbat>	eo, lets put it this way
	<Eo>	where's your pm?
	<RB-Golbat>	if you have a useful role, you are hindering the strength of the village
	<Eo>	if I were mafia what would I have to gain with your PM?
	<RB-Golbat>	you can tell just me and I'll tell no one
	<Eo>	RB-Golbat: if you are a genuine villager I know that's what you'll do
	<Agape>	you don't need to post it publicly here so I could see it
	<Eo>	but I don't know if you're a genuine village leader
	<Agape>	if you don't trust me :/
	<RB-Golbat>	would you like to see my role PM
	<Eo>	you can post it again but you already showed me yesterday
	<Agape>	I'm mainly an idler
	<Agape>	with this role ill just vote on lynches and give opinions
	<Eo>	look
	<Eo>	am I the only person who hasn't claimed?
	<Agape>	yes
	<Agape>	I think so
	<Eo>	and how would you know this agape?
	<Agape>	at least from us
	<Agape>	dunno from village
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	*person*	recruit each other if possible?
	<RB-Golbat>	i have 9 no claims
	<Agape>	ah kk
	<RB-Golbat>	Dak
	<RB-Golbat>	Eo Ut Mortus
	<RB-Golbat>	ExplorerAce
	<RB-Golbat>	Flounder
	<RB-Golbat>	Jedil
	<Eo>	EA died
	<RB-Golbat>	KnightoftheWind
	<RB-Golbat>	Magicmaster87
	<RB-Golbat>	Shade
	<RB-Golbat>	Supermarth64
	<RB-Golbat>	i hadn't updated the sheet yet
	<Eo>	so that's about half
	<Dubulous>	that's too many
	<Agape>	People seemingly don't trust you
	<Eo>	he has an error in his role PM
	<Agape>	who?
	<Eo>	inconsistency if you like
	<Eo>	RB-Golbat
	<RB-Golbat>	yeah, dogfish made an error
	<Eo>	look at this role PM:
	<Eo>	Once per night, you can send the hosts (Dogfish44 & Raverist) a Pm saying ?Night X ? Grabbing USER? where USER is the Smogon account name of that person. The user, no matter how big, will be caught between your spikes, and unable to move a muscle. Naturally, moving there mouth would also be included as to not move. If they talk, they will be killed.
	<Agape>	well dogfish could have made mistakes
	<Eo>	RB Golbat's action does not state the hosts
	<Eo>	I don't see why he wouldn't just copy / paste it on every role PM
	<RB-Golbat>	well, lets look at it this way
	<Mind>	guys
	<Mind>	wait
	<Mind>	stop
	<RB-Golbat>	if it were a fake, i would have copy pasted from my PM
	=-=	Mode #fishmafia +o Eo by Mind
	<RB-Golbat>	which would have stated the hosts
	=-=	Mode #fishmafia +o Agape by Mind
	=-=	Mode #fishmafia +o Dubulous by Mind
	=-=	Mode #fishmafia +o RB-Golbat by Mind
	<Eo>	or perhaps it was an error on your part?
	<RB-Golbat>	you can believe that if you will
	<Mind>	eo
	<Mind>	if rbg lied
	<Mind>	we are already fucked up
	<Agape>	we need to take the risk
	<RB-Golbat>	but that is such a juvinile mistake for someone who has played a while
	<Agape>	not trusting inspector is a failure
	<Eo>	we can't take the risk
	<Eo>	RB golbat is not the inspector
	<Eo>	he's the martyr
	<Eo>	and a martyr isn't necessarily guaranteed to be in a mafia
	<Agape>	sorry, haven't followed keenly
	<RB-Golbat>	in a village you mean
	<Mind>	if rbg is killed
	<Eo>	yeah
	<Mind>	we dont have the claims
	<Mind>	and we're fucked up
	<Eo>	and speaking of trusting the inspector
	<Agape>	can't inspector check rbg
	<Eo>	why not trust his results on mind?
	<Mind>	eo
	<RB-Golbat>	I already have a sherrif claim
	<Mind>	rbg lynched a fucking mafia
	<RB-Golbat>	actually 2
	<Mind>	and you don't trust him
	<Eo>	so what?
	<RB-Golbat>	and they both cleaned me lol
	<Eo>	he could be the other mafia
	<Mind>	...
	<Eo>	rb-golbat it's highly unlikely that there are two sheriffs and another inspector
	<Mind>	eo
	<RB-Golbat>	exactly
	<Mind>	if you never claim
	<RB-Golbat>	one of the sherrifs is mafia
	<Mind>	ok
	<Mind>	who claimed sherrif
	<Eo>	mind you're likely mafia anyway
	<RB-Golbat>	but one of them is legit
	<Mind>	eo that is complete bs
	<RB-Golbat>	eo, mind will prove his role tonight
	<RB-Golbat>	you aren't claiming to him
	<Eo>	so be it
	<Mind>	on team eather
	<Mind>	aether?
	<RB-Golbat>	I will drag you though this
	<RB-Golbat>	kicking and screaming
	<Eo>	look
	<RB-Golbat>	and in the end, you'll thank me
	<RB-Golbat>	:p
	<Eo>	I'm not going to claim
	<RB-Golbat>	and yeah mind
	<Eo>	until I'm positive
	<Mind>	ok
	<Mind>	so
	<Eo>	so apparently we have a full inspector
	<Mind>	wait
	<Eo>	and two sheriff cliams
	<Agape>	Eo: I have the same princible
	<Eo>	is that correct?
	<RB-Golbat>	yes
	<Agape>	but I still claimed to rb
	<RB-Golbat>	and both sherrifs calimed to clean me
	<Eo>	also agape
	<Eo>	you seemed to have claimed to mind
	<Eo>	on a whim
	<Eo>	Just noting that mind was collecting claims some time ago, have you got inspection results of him?
	<Eo>	Also, I claimed to mind, if mind is mafia, I'll claim to you too
	<Eo>	?
	<Agape>	no eo
	<Agape>	I only gave mind my role name
	<Eo>	that's claiming
	<Agape>	what do you mean with inspector results
	<Agape>	I'm not inspector
	<Mind>	eo
	<Mind>	why are you so fucking suspicious
	<Eo>	claiming = telling a person who you are
	<Mind>	you're the only person that doesn't claim
	<Mind>	so why aren't you mafia
	<Eo>	no there are 8 people who haven't claimed
	<Mind>	..
	<Agape>	claiming is imo telling the role pm
	<Eo>	if I were mafia I'd have claimed by now with a viable role PM
	<Mind>	because
	<Agape>	anyone can pull off a random fish from the hat
	<Mind>	rbg wasn't in touch with them
	<Eo>	mind
	<Eo>	you shouldn't have any say in this until you prove your role tomorrow
	<Mind>	i do
	<Mind>	noob
	<Eo>	very convincing
	<Eo>	ok let me put it this way
	<Eo>	'Dear -Mind-
	<Eo>	You are the Lionfish
	<Eo>	a lionfish is biological
	<Eo>	it's a hazard to scuba divers
	<Mind>	no
	<Eo>	therefore you are a biohazard
	<Mind>	you should claim
	<Mind>	then you can talk
	<Eo>	mind stop trying to change the subject with your flimsy arguments
	<Eo>	I know your role and you refuse to post your PM
	<Agape>	i'll idle now
	<Agape>	playing rmt
	<Mind>	this is bs eo
	<Mind>	i don't claim to you
	<Mind>	until you claim
	<Eo>	I already know your role
	<Eo>	RBG told me
	<Eo>	why would you withhold your PM?
	<Agape>	eo has a point there
	<Mind>	ill tell you tomorro
	<Mind>	w
	<Mind>	maybe
	<Agape>	eo has a mysterious reason not to give the PM
	<Agape>	mind has none
	<Eo>	ok I have a proposition
	<Eo>	show agape your role pm
	<Eo>	he's already claimed
	<Dubulous>	unless mind doesn't have a pm
	<Mind>	eo
	<Mind>	it's just
	<Mind>	1) you have an important role like bg
	<Mind>	2) you're mafia
	<Eo>	what makes you think I have an important role?
	<Agape>	3) youre semi-paranoid ^^
	<Mind>	you don't want to claim
	<Eo>	ok say I'm something stupid
	<Eo>	or not that useful
	<Eo>	like I'm mayor
	<Eo>	if I claim mayor to a mafia
	<Mind>	ok
	<Mind>	look
	<Eo>	they'll say, "Oh he's not the bg / inspector / important role"
	<Mind>	you will see if i'm mafia tonight
	<Mind>	okay
	<Eo>	"let's target something else"
	<Eo>	I'm not claiming to you lol
	<Mind>	if someone died
	<Mind>	of my toxic
	<Mind>	you can claim to me
	<Mind>	ok
	<Eo>	and what if you're a mafia killer?
	<Mind>	...
	<Mind>	i will lose my powers
	<Mind>	after i used that shot
	<Eo>	yeah right
	<RB-Golbat>	eo look at it this way
	<RB-Golbat>	if he doesnt die tonight, he is lynched tommorrow
	<Eo>	that's fine with me
	<Mind>	who
	<Mind>	me?
	<Eo>	but why should I claim to him?
	<Dubulous>	don't
	<Dubulous>	you have no reason to
	<Mind>	why would you guys lynch me
	<Mind>	no
	<Mind>	eo
	<Mind>	dont claim to me
	<Mind>	claim to rbg
	<Mind>	i said
	<Mind>	nob
	<Mind>	btw rbg
	<Eo>	eh
	<Mind>	why would you vote me the next day
	<RB-Golbat>	because if you dont die
	<Mind>	that only would be a stupid lynch
	<RB-Golbat>	then you lied
	<Mind>	i don't die
	<Mind>	look
	<Mind>	i still live
	<Eo>	so you lied already
	<Dubulous>	role pm time mind
	<Agape>	haven't you read mind's PM
	<Mind>	wait
	<Mind>	guys
	<Mind>	stop
	<Mind>	They will die, and then you will then lose:
	<Mind>	The ability to lynch
	<Mind>	The right to more than 10 words per day in the main chat (but ?CanIhavemyrolebackDogfish44? (Or any alternative) would be 7 words).
	<Mind>	i will still live
	<Mind>	i only cant kill and vote
	<Agape>	with a restriction?
	<Mind>	so i'm actually useless
	<Eo>	yeah uh
	<Mind>	but
	<Eo>	why exactly are you losing your powers?
	<Mind>	eo
	<Agape>	mind
	<Eo>	in terms of flavor
	<Agape>	jsut post the whole thing
	<Agape>	makes it easier to live
	<Mind>	ok
	<Mind>	i will claim
	<Mind>	bitches
	<Mind>	fucking annoy me
	<Mind>	Dear USER
	<Mind>	You are the Lionfish
	<Mind>	You are probably one of the most ornate fishes in the universe. But people ignore this fact, and associate you with the venom in your dorsal fins instead. Thus you joined the Biohazards. But you had a change of heart. However, this is unknown, and this is your role PM to any Inspector.
	<Mind>	?Dear USER
	<Mind>	You are the Lionfish
	<Mind>	You are both ornate and deadly, much to the regret of certain scuba divers. You might be a bit timid at times, but in this new world, a burst of confidence allied you with the Poisonous Poseidon Group. You will find your services to be content.
	<Mind>	Once per night, you can send the hosts (Dogfish44 & Raverist) a Pm saying ?Night X ? Poisoning USER? where USER is the Smogon account name of that person. This person will be swarmed upon by your venomous fins, and will die with ease.
	<Mind>	You are allied with the Biohazards?
	<Mind>	In reality, your fins aren?t deadly, but in an emergency, you can release the entire contents of your venom on someone, killing them instantly. To do so you can send the hosts (Dogfish44 & Raverist) a Pm saying ?Night X ? Releasing Venom at USER? where USER is the Smogon account name of that person. They will die, and then you will then lose:
	<Mind>	The ability to lynch
	<Mind>	The right to more than 10 words per day in the main chat (but ?CanIhavemyrolebackDogfish44? (Or any alternative) would be 7 words).
	<Mind>	This ability can only be used once.
	<Mind>	You win if the town win
	<Mind>	noob
	<Mind>	s
	<Agape>	that is one complex pm
	<RB-Golbat>	and besides
	<Agape>	we can prove you by:
	<Agape>	1) you use you role
	<RB-Golbat>	i'm willing to think he is right
	<Agape>	2) you make a lynch a tie
	<Agape>	if the lynch terget gets through
	<Mind>	just to make it easier
	<Eo>	agape is right
	<Mind>	i will use my powers
	<Agape>	but i trust you
	<Mind>	tonight
	<Eo>	the next day
	<Eo>	we will tie it up with suspected mafia vs mind
	<Mind>	why don't you fucking trust me
	<Mind>	nooblings
	<Eo>	because the inspector said you were mafia ._.
	<Mind>	dude
	<Mind>	look
	<Mind>	why the fuck
	<Mind>	do i have to explain it again
	<Eo>	you asked why we suspected
	<Mind>	the inspector
	<Eo>	you
	<Mind>	only saw the first part
	<Eo>	that is why we suspect you
	<Mind>	or is lying
	<Eo>	what more is there to it?
	<RB-Golbat>	eo, what about it dont you like?
	<Eo>	I'm willing to let him prove his cleanliness
	<Eo>	They will die, and then you will then lose:
	<Eo>	<Mind> The ability to lynch
	<Eo>	<Mind> The right to more than 10 words per day in the main chat (but ?CanIhavemyrolebackDogfish44? (Or any alternative) would be 7 words).
	<Agape>	this matter is fishished imao
	<Eo>	I don't see this making sense
	<Eo>	but anyway yeah
	<Agape>	we prove mind clean, that's it
	<Eo>	I agree with agape
	<Eo>	as for my claiming
	<Agape>	if mind gets hooked or stuff
	<Agape>	we work something out
	<Agape>	next night
	<Eo>	just sic the inspector on me if you don't trust me
	<RB-Golbat>	no, i want to check askaninjask
	<Mind>	eo
	<RB-Golbat>	what he claims seems to be pure bs
	<Eo>	alliance check me with one of the sheriffs then
	<Eo>	if you're worried about me having an important role
	<Mind>	fucking claim to rbg
	<Mind>	ok
	<Eo>	mind shut it
	<RB-Golbat>	seriously mind
	<Eo>	you can tell me who to target if I was (role)
	<RB-Golbat>	that isnt the way to doit
	<Eo>	like if you are hooker, target XXX
	<RB-Golbat>	he isnt gonna do it
	<Eo>	rogue, target XXX
	<Eo>	bodyguard
	<Eo>	martyr
	<Eo>	inspector
	<Eo>	etc
	<Agape>	rtm now
	<Mind>	ok
	<Agape>	ill idle
	<Mind>	then don't claim
	<Mind>	but i claimed to you
	<Mind>	fyi
	<Agape>	but ill check this every now and then
	<Eo>	same as agape
	<Mind>	ok
	<Mind>	how many mafia's are there?
	<Mind>	we already got the silencer!
	<Agape>	how many players?
	<Mind>	yes
	<Mind>	how many playersd
	<Mind>	are mafia
	<RB-Golbat>	7 mafia's + askaninjask
	<Mind>	really 7?
	<Mind>	no way
	<Eo>	what?
	<Eo>	how do we know this?
	<Mind>	yes rb
	<Mind>	?
	<RB-Golbat>	the game is small enough for the standard size mafia
	<RB-Golbat>	go by past small games
	<Eo>	could be 5 / 5
	<RB-Golbat>	that would not be good for the vilallage at all
	<RB-Golbat>	5+5+12?
	<Mind>	i think
	<RB-Golbat>	would not work out at all
	<Mind>	5 mafia's
	<Mind>	with 1 silencer
	<Mind>	ok so team aether
	<Mind>	and askaninjask
	<RB-Golbat>	23 people
	<RB-Golbat>	1 neutral (he claims)
	<RB-Golbat>	thats 22 left
	<RB-Golbat>	10 mafias and 12 villagers would not be a good game at all
	<Mind>	so how many mafia
	<Agape>	40% off 22
	<Mind>	i think
	<Mind>	8 and 14
	<Mind>	or 9\
	<RB-Golbat>	8 and 14 is a typical size
	<RB-Golbat>	and that isn't counting neutrals
	<Agape>	hmm
	<Agape>	is there a wolf
	<RB-Golbat>	not sure yet
	<RB-Golbat>	i would assume one exsists
	<RB-Golbat>	we'll see tonight after all the kills are in
	<RB-Golbat>	and make a good asumption
	<Agape>	wolf may have a kill restriction
	<Mind>	hm
	<Mind>	pfft
	<Mind>	.
	=-=	Mind was booted from #fishmafia by Mind (Mind)
	<Agape>	do you think mind's vigilante?
	<RB-Golbat>	its suspicious
	<RB-Golbat>	he very well might not be
	<RB-Golbat>	in fact, unless their are 3 kills tommorrow at least, i'm gonna lynch him
	<Agape>	good point
	<Agape>	you could make him untie his own lynch
	<Agape>	so that mind's vote would make the vote +1
	<Agape>	nvm
	<Agape>	doesn't work