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  1. Never tell your password to anyone.
  2. Freitag, 25. Juli 2014
  3. 15:12 - MICHAEL :-): hey..
  4. 15:12 - MICHAEL :-): why ya ddd me?
  5. 15:12 - MICHAEL :-): add*
  6. 15:12 - `KezzyL ツ: I was wondering if you were interested in selling your stattrak orion for real money? Sorry for bothering you
  7. 15:13 - MICHAEL :-): sure
  8. 15:13 - MICHAEL :-): how much and what method?
  9. 15:14 - `KezzyL ツ: Hmmm up to you
  10. 15:14 - MICHAEL :-): paypal?
  11. 15:14 - MICHAEL :-): im up for that
  12. 15:14 - `KezzyL ツ: How much do you get after fees?
  13. 15:14 - MICHAEL :-): 60,53
  14. 15:14 - MICHAEL :-): i want to buy GTA V with that money :-)
  15. 15:14 - `KezzyL ツ: Ah yeah that's right. It's coming out on pc soon too :P
  16. 15:14 - MICHAEL :-): yes it is
  17. 15:15 - `KezzyL ツ: 60.53 euros after tax
  18. 15:15 - MICHAEL :-): on steam
  19. 15:15 - `KezzyL ツ: Hmmm
  20. 15:15 - MICHAEL :-): yeah
  21. 15:15 - `KezzyL ツ: But if you sell it on steam you cant get money out? :0
  22. 15:15 - MICHAEL :-): lol wait
  23. 15:15 - MICHAEL :-): i totally meant 68€
  24. 15:15 - `KezzyL ツ: Huh?
  25. 15:15 - MICHAEL :-): http://gyazo.com/fdec8a2f43c510b2d6be7945b790fd98
  26. 15:15 - MICHAEL :-): check screeny
  27. 15:16 - MICHAEL :-): I sell it on steam, Steam Wallet and buy it on steam (GTA V)
  28. 15:16 - MICHAEL :-): They will sell it on steam, they said.
  29. 15:16 - MICHAEL :-): + theres already a game under GTA V in the store
  30. 15:16 - `KezzyL ツ: Ah i see.
  31. 15:16 - `KezzyL ツ: Are you still interested in selling for paypal?
  32. 15:16 - MICHAEL :-): Yeah
  33. 15:16 - MICHAEL :-): but don't try to scam :-)
  34. 15:17 - MICHAEL :-): Too many people going around with that
  35. 15:17 - `KezzyL ツ: Likewise, I'll be planning to use a middleman if we do come to an agreement
  36. 15:17 - `KezzyL ツ: (:
  37. 15:17 - MICHAEL :-): Not needed.
  38. 15:17 - MICHAEL :-): Set your steam profile public please?
  39. 15:17 - MICHAEL :-): Why is it private?
  40. 15:17 - MICHAEL :-): Looks like a account with no game on, which you're scamming with...
  41. 15:18 - `KezzyL ツ: I've always had it private, i'll unprivate if you'd like.
  42. 15:18 - MICHAEL :-): I just don't want to get scammed, since this money should go into a game, which I don't wanna "pay" for.
  43. 15:19 - `KezzyL ツ is now Online.
  44. 15:25 - `KezzyL ツ: Would you like to inspect my profile?
  45. 15:25 - MICHAEL :-): nothin to inspect
  46. 15:25 - MICHAEL :-): but 60h csgo and buying an item for it?
  47. 15:26 - MICHAEL :-): you betting, as I can see.
  48. 15:26 - MICHAEL :-): but why would you want that orion
  49. 15:26 - MICHAEL :-): I know it will go higher on price soon
  50. 15:26 - `KezzyL ツ: Because I need a gun for investment.
  51. 15:26 - `KezzyL ツ: A gun that's high in demand
  52. 15:26 - `KezzyL ツ: With high value
  53. 15:26 - `KezzyL ツ: So that I can break it down later without any issues
  54. 15:26 - MICHAEL :-): Well I've never done this kind of thing..
  55. 15:27 - MICHAEL :-): Seen so many people get scammed, don't want to be the next one :-)
  56. 15:27 - MICHAEL :-): How would we do it via paypal
  57. 15:27 - `KezzyL ツ: I understand your concern, I'm not forcing anything upon you.
  58. 15:27 - `KezzyL ツ: If you're not interested, i'll be on my way
  59. 15:28 - MICHAEL :-): Don't understand me wrong - I am interrested, but want to get something out this gun :-) If I'd lose it for 0,-€ I'd be killing myself
  60. 15:28 - MICHAEL :-): Was hard work to get it :)
  61. 15:29 - `KezzyL ツ: Likewise, if I were to be scammed I'd also be shattered as i'm spending quite abit of money on the game
  62. 15:29 - `KezzyL ツ: , attempting to get something out of it
  63. 15:29 - MICHAEL :-): But a scammer won't lose any money, he takes away my gun and runs :-)
  64. 15:30 - `KezzyL ツ: Same here, a scammer could accept my money and keep their gun too.
  65. 15:30 - MICHAEL :-): paypal can ALWAYS get refunded
  66. 15:30 - MICHAEL :-): worst case scenario: you contact paypal and say it wasnt you transfering the money
  67. 15:30 - MICHAEL :-): He couldn't, - The seller is the target.
  68. 15:30 - MICHAEL :-): You can ALWAYS claim your money back
  69. 15:30 - MICHAEL :-): but I can't do the same with a STEAM/VALVE Item...
  70. 15:31 - `KezzyL ツ: And that's why I'm willing to do go with a middleman for the trade if you don't trust me
  71. 15:31 - MICHAEL :-): whats the middleman for?
  72. 15:31 - MICHAEL :-): You can pay me
  73. 15:31 - MICHAEL :-): 24h later claim your money back
  74. 15:31 - MICHAEL :-): That's the problem here
  75. 15:32 - `KezzyL ツ: I have no intention of charging back but clearly you don't believe me, so therefore a middleman is insurance for both of us.
  76. 15:32 - `KezzyL ツ: I sent money over to middleman, middleman sents money to you after you trade him the Orion.
  77. 15:32 - MICHAEL :-): But how can I trust a random guy, like those other 15 which added me in the last day and tried to scam me.
  78. 15:32 - `KezzyL ツ: Even if i were to refund it
  79. 15:32 - MICHAEL :-): Who'd be the middleman?
  80. 15:32 - `KezzyL ツ: Only the middleman would be affected
  81. 15:32 - `KezzyL ツ: Not you.
  82. 15:33 - `KezzyL ツ: You'd get the money regardless.
  83. 15:33 - MICHAEL :-): Who'd be it?=
  84. 15:33 - `KezzyL ツ: You can go find one or I can go.
  85. 15:34 - MICHAEL :-): How do I find one? IF it would be my friend, I'd be affected in the money part again.
  86. 15:34 - MICHAEL :-): If it would be your friend, he could claim it back
  87. 15:34 - MICHAEL :-): confused as fuck right now
  88. 15:34 - `KezzyL ツ: I'll go search for one in a middleman forum for steam trading
  89. 15:35 - MICHAEL :-): but why should he do it? you could claim the money back form him, and he would lose money for not doing shit.
  90. 15:35 - MICHAEL :-): Who would take that risk?
  91. 15:35 - `KezzyL ツ: The middleman's job is to also assess the buyer and the seller to deem them trustworthy or not.
  92. 15:35 - `KezzyL ツ: If the middleman doesn't deem me trustworthy too
  93. 15:36 - `KezzyL ツ: Then we'll just cancel everything.
  94. 15:36 - MICHAEL :-): Ok - lets take this aside - How much would you pay ME? - are there taxes on PayPal if its send as a gift?
  95. 15:37 - MICHAEL :-): I'd go down to 65,-EUR
  96. 15:37 - MICHAEL :-): 87,32100 US-Dollar
  97. 15:38 - MICHAEL :-): Let's say 58USD
  98. 15:38 - MICHAEL :-): 88
  99. 15:38 - MICHAEL :-): Sorry.
  100. 15:38 - `KezzyL ツ: 79 euros -> 68 euros after tax?
  101. 15:38 - MICHAEL :-): PayPal gift = No taxes, if im right
  102. 15:38 - MICHAEL :-): http://gyazo.com/2c7c83d1842669151e9faaadad4990ae
  103. 15:39 - MICHAEL :-): See the screenshot I gave you
  104. 15:39 - MICHAEL :-): I didn't change the HTML
  105. 15:39 - `KezzyL ツ: Yes, no taxes charged.
  106. 15:39 - `KezzyL ツ: I'm fine with 88 USD
  107. 15:39 - MICHAEL :-): Looks pretty racist, but sure.
  108. 15:40 - `KezzyL ツ: racist?
  109. 15:40 - `KezzyL ツ: wat
  110. 15:40 - MICHAEL :-): 88 = HH = http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/HOlF1eYS9Bo/hqdefault.jpg?feature=og.
  111. 15:40 - `KezzyL ツ: lolwtf
  112. 15:41 - `KezzyL ツ: So we've both agreed on the price of 88 USD?
  113. 15:41 - MICHAEL :-): Yeah
  114. 15:41 - MICHAEL :-): This deal ain't done yet, I'll take a look @ the middleman
  115. 15:42 - MICHAEL :-): And so on, didn't decide if I will do it yet.
  116. 15:42 - `KezzyL ツ: Yeah, give me a few minutes to find one
  117. 15:42 - MICHAEL :-): The price is set.
  118. 15:42 - `KezzyL ツ: I'll try to find one that's online
  119. 15:42 - `KezzyL ツ: So we can get our questions and doubts over with
  120. 15:44 - MICHAEL :-): sounds great
  121. 15:46 - `KezzyL ツ: I think i've found one
  122. 15:46 - `KezzyL ツ: http://steamcommunity.com/id/offcialkmjt/
  123. 15:48 - `KezzyL ツ: Want to add him and have a chat with him?
  124. 15:50 - MICHAEL :-): I'll check if its the real url, SYTHE website (If it's "known" buz I didnt heard shit bout it)
  125. 15:50 - MICHAEL :-): be patient, may pay off
  126. 15:51 - `KezzyL ツ: Yeah, sweet as.
  127. 15:59 - MICHAEL :-): By the way why don't you put your paypal money on steam and buy the skin?
  128. 15:59 - MICHAEL :-): Looks sadly like a rip off :(
  129. 15:59 - MICHAEL :-): im the one who sells it way more expensive as it is right now
  130. 16:00 - `KezzyL ツ: I'm unable to use the steam market at the moment. I keep getting a transaction error, I've tried contacting steam support about the problem but they've yet to reply.
  131. 16:00 - MICHAEL :-): Ok, sounds reasonable, had that too x]
  132. 16:01 - `KezzyL ツ: I also need the orion quite urgently, so I'm looking for people that are online as of now.
  133. 16:01 - MICHAEL :-): btw, SYTHE website
  134. 16:01 - `KezzyL ツ: And you happened to be one of them
  135. 16:01 - MICHAEL :-): Steam doenst filter it, website known?
  136. 16:02 - `KezzyL ツ: I guess so?
  137. 16:02 - MICHAEL :-): how did you find the middleman?
  138. 16:02 - `KezzyL ツ: By browsing around sythe forums
  139. 16:03 - MICHAEL :-): you do know he charges 10€ per middlemanning
  140. 16:03 - MICHAEL :-): 12USD
  141. 16:03 - `KezzyL ツ: I'm pretty sure it was only $10
  142. 16:03 - MICHAEL :-): then 10
  143. 16:03 - MICHAEL :-): idk
  144. 16:04 - `KezzyL ツ: Yeah that's still a slightly cheaper deal for me than your original market price
  145. 16:05 - `KezzyL ツ: I'm going to add him now and have a chat with him
  146. 16:12 - MICHAEL :-): and?
  147. 16:12 - MICHAEL :-): did you talk with him?
  148. 16:13 - `KezzyL ツ: Yeah, he seems like a trustworthy guy, what about you?
  149. 16:14 - MICHAEL :-): copy / paste your conversation you had with him :-)
  150. 16:14 - MICHAEL :-): if you get it within 50 secs
  151. 16:14 - MICHAEL :-): I'll think about it
  152. 16:14 - `KezzyL ツ is now Away.
  153. 16:19 - MICHAEL :-): hey dude
  154. 16:19 - MICHAEL :-): nice attempt
  155. 16:19 - MICHAEL :-): might work with other people
  156. 16:19 - MICHAEL :-): Hahhahaha
  157. 16:24 - `KezzyL ツ is now Offline.
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