DF Game Club: The Book of Unwritten Tales (part 4)

(07:00:35) Syd: Alright, let's get this going. Let me know when you see the stream go live and I'll start the intro.
(07:00:47) Permafry_42: hi Fhqwhgod!
(07:00:56) Fhqwhgod: live
(07:01:04) Permafry_42: yup live
(07:01:16) Fhqwhgod: also: hi@chat
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(07:02:07) Cheeseness: Hey Fhqwhgod
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(07:02:18) Permafry_42: i love the main menu design
(07:02:43) Gregtherobot: Hahaha <3
(07:02:45) Gregtherobot: Woman stuff?
(07:02:49) Cheeseness: Geeze, that Nate :|
(07:02:51) Gregtherobot: Or proper.
(07:03:16) SirSlade: Woah man, almost forgot about the GC today! Twitter really helps (I was too busy making more families for MC
(07:03:35) Cheeseness: Syd said she'd describe Nate as "punchable". Can't say I disagree with her on that >_<
(07:03:44) Cheeseness: Ha ha, hey SirSlade ^_^
(07:04:19) Gregtherobot: There's like .. I don't want to try to guess what's sitting on the ground next to the stone coffin in front of the 'camera'
(07:04:21) Fhqwhgod: I always get lured here by the steam announcements but today I would have missed it if I weren't lurking here for a while
(07:04:33) Gregtherobot: It looks like it .. goes .. somewhere ..
(07:05:14) Permafry_42: punchable does come to mind. also her voice is a little bit too high pitched for my taste, even considering she's supposed to be very sad...
(07:05:29) Permafry_42: also mc = minecraft?
(07:05:33) Gregtherobot: Oh it's the top of a vase. That was an unfortunate zoom.
(07:07:09) Gregtherobot: Anybody know how much of the backgrounds are rendered versus drawn?
(07:07:25) Cheeseness: Poor Ester
(07:07:37) Fhqwhgod: dear Esther
(07:07:47) Cheeseness: I had assumes that all of them were pre-rendered
(07:09:10) Fhqwhgod: in b4 forged loveletter
(07:09:26) Gregtherobot: I think they're mostly prerendered but I think I'm seeing stuff that was drawn in too.
(07:10:43) Permafry_42: http://www.doublefine.com/forums/viewthread/13826/ anyone see yet this?
(07:10:59) Cheeseness: Yep
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(07:12:05) Cheeseness: Ghosts go to the bathroom?
(07:12:15) Gregtherobot: Noooo way. They found the landfill?
(07:12:33) Gregtherobot: That's the doc MS is shooting?
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(07:14:13) Permafry_42: i love beheaded jokes
(07:14:16) Cheeseness: :D
(07:14:24) Fhqwhgod: yes it seems they found the landfill and made an event digging it up. I want one of those carts
(07:15:19) Gregtherobot: That's amazing. I've been hearing about that legend for at least a decade.
(07:16:12) Cheeseness: Paladin jokes
(07:16:28) Permafry_42: i like the flag design
(07:16:38) Cheeseness: Oh, I didn't spot the red shoes
(07:17:10) Fhqwhgod: waht's a Paladin?
(07:17:36) Fhqwhgod: what's*
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(07:18:41) Gregtherobot: A holy knight or something.
(07:18:41) Cheeseness: A knight type person
(07:19:35) Cheeseness: IIRC, the top warriors from Charlemagne's court wore the title
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(07:20:39) Permafry_42: hi flesk!
(07:21:10) Cheeseness: Hey flesk
(07:21:27) Gregtherobot: FLESK
(07:21:40) Cheeseness: Nice work picking a feather that wouldn't be missed
(07:22:17) Fhqwhgod: hi fIesk
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(07:23:20) Permafry_42: hey The-Mad-Pirate!
(07:23:21) Cheeseness: Hey The-Mad-Pirate
(07:23:37) Gregtherobot: He was already here I think.
(07:23:48) Permafry_42: i love the spiraling cloud art in the background of this scene
(07:23:51) Gregtherobot: But we still love you.
(07:23:52) Cheeseness: Oh, so he was
(07:24:04) Cheeseness: Yeah, the background art is awesome
(07:27:20) flesk: Hi there.
(07:27:28) flesk: Gregtherobot?
(07:27:34) Gregtherobot: Yes!
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(07:29:16) Gregtherobot: You may know me from that one time I wrote a review.
(07:29:58) Gregtherobot: But you probably don't. And it'd be awkward if you did.
(07:31:43) Permafry_42: don't worry greg I'll make it awkward since i know you =D
(07:31:56) Gregtherobot: D:
(07:32:00) Fhqwhgod: *awkward*
(07:32:10) Gregtherobot: D: D: D: D:
(07:32:17) flesk: Hmm. It's not immediately ringing any bells for me.
(07:33:06) SirSlade: So this is the first BoUT session I've been able to catch, and is it just me or does the hero sound and act like Ash from Evil Dead/Army of Darkness?
(07:33:38) Fhqwhgod: the voice acting is rubbish
(07:33:41) Cheeseness: heh
(07:33:41) Gregtherobot: It sounds like that one time Telltale cast him in Poker Night.
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(07:33:45) Permafry_42: i wonder who is the one on bout's dev team that has a think for skulls and skeletons. i notice there's quite a few of them in the world's designs and backgrounds
(07:34:17) Cheeseness: Mostly they seem to fit with the environments
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(07:35:40) Cheeseness: Ah, voodoo
(07:35:49) Cheeseness: Hah, this recipe sounds familiar
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(07:36:19) Cheeseness: Something of the head, something of the thread, something of the body, and something of the dead
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(07:38:21) Cheeseness: This paladin is obsessed with split ends
(07:38:45) Permafry_42: he's probably just a really vain person
(07:38:55) Permafry_42: *character
(07:39:25) Cheeseness: Or a questionable stereotype
(07:40:06) Gregtherobot: I feel like these voice actors never played a point and click adventure game.
(07:40:17) Permafry_42: well considering the majority of the characters are at the very least inspired by questionable stereotype, it seems par to the course at this point
(07:40:23) Cheeseness: How much spit do we need? :D
(07:40:23) Permafry_42: *questionable stereotypes
(07:40:34) Gregtherobot: You don't want to know..
(07:41:27) Cheeseness: I'd have thought after that that it'd be brimming
(07:42:18) Permafry_42: i love how the items just mysteriously appear and disappear
(07:43:16) Cheeseness: Aww, I was expecting him to say "Two four six eight!"
(07:44:44) Cheeseness: :/
(07:44:46) Cheeseness: lol
(07:44:57) Permafry_42: lol "tm"
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(07:45:52) Cheeseness: Hi Kor
(07:45:57) Kor: hiyo :)
(07:46:00) Cheeseness: Ha, the buff icons
(07:46:15) Marco: Hi Cheese, hi everyone :)
(07:46:19) Cheeseness: Hi Marco
(07:46:20) Kor: What game is this?
(07:46:28) Cheeseness: This is the Book of Unwritten Tales
(07:47:01) Permafry_42: i wonder if he's secretly a closet case...
(07:48:12) Kor: That's by far the worse
(07:48:19) Kor: *worst
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(07:51:12) Marco: If you have any questions about The Book of Unwritten Tales, KING Art Games or our other games, feel free to ask
(07:51:26) Cheeseness: Marco is Marco Rosenberg from King Art Games :)
(07:51:38) Marco: jepp
(07:51:56) Cheeseness: Thanks for joining us! I hadn't spotted an email from you so I wasn't sure if you were likely to make it
(07:52:06) Cheeseness: Congratulations on the BoUT2 campaign!
(07:52:20) Marco: just read about this session on Twitter a few minutes ago and decided to drop by :)
(07:52:26) Permafry_42: hi kor and marco!
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(07:53:18) Cheeseness: Marco: I'd shot you an email a couple of weeks ago - I'm guessing it got flagged as spam and lost
(07:54:38) Marco: I'll have to check for it. Maybe I missed it in the post-Kickstarter flurry
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(07:55:37) Marco: Hi Permafry
(07:55:49) Permafry_42: proud backer of bout 2; looking forwards to playing it when it's fully released
(07:56:10) Marco: that's great to hear :)
(07:58:09) Marco: Who's the one playing the game for the stream?
(07:58:09) Permafry_42: i'll be able to stay in chat, but it looks like i won't be able to continue watching the stream due to lack of bandwidth
(07:58:10) Cheeseness: Unfortunately the campaign happened at a point where I didn't have much spare money. Looking forward to picking it up when it's released though
(07:58:16) Cheeseness: No worries, Permafry_42
(07:58:40) Permafry_42: Syd's doing the streaming right now
(07:59:10) Cheeseness: Hah!
(07:59:17) Kor: wow, such potty mouth :p
(07:59:20) flesk: Hi Marco.
(07:59:36) flesk: I backed BoUT2 as well. Looking forward to it.
(07:59:47) SirSlade: Apparently I stepped out of the room at the wrong time. I was in the kitchen, then stream of bleeps comes from my room...
(07:59:51) Marco: haha, that beeped out line made me worry if we would get a low age rating from the ESRB :D
(07:59:58) Marco: hi flesk
(08:00:15) Marco: hi SirSlade
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(08:00:53) SirSlade: Hey Marco, hey flesk
(08:00:56) Cheeseness: By the way, http://unwritten-tales.com/ doesn't seem to be working properly for me
(08:01:10) Cheeseness: How much of the original voice cast is back for BoUT2?
(08:01:12) flesk: I love that all of your games are available for Linux.
(08:01:25) Cheeseness: Linux gamer here too - definitely appreciate the support :)
(08:01:29) Marco: Yes, somehow it crashed yesterday. We're working on getting it back online.
(08:01:36) Cheeseness: Ah, no problems
(08:02:12) Cheeseness: Is BoUT2 using the same engine as the original game, or will you be using Unity again?
(08:02:49) Marco: For all the characters who make a comeback in BoUT2 we'll try to get the same voice actors as in BoUT1.
(08:03:09) Marco: BoUT2 uses Unity, just like The Raven.
(08:03:59) Permafry_42: will the animations be up to the same level as bout 1, or will it be closer to the raven's level in terms on quality?
(08:04:01) Marco: And it will look even better than BoUT1.
(08:04:06) Cheeseness: Someone was asking earlier whether any of the backgrounds were painted rather than rendered
(08:04:24) flesk: I love the idea of doing side-quests for BoUT2.
(08:04:49) Marco: The backgrounds are rendered and then received a paintover.
(08:05:37) Cheeseness: Ah, neat! Will you be using the same technique for BoUT2?
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(08:06:50) Marco: We've stacked up on in-house animators since The Raven, so the animations will be better than in BoUT1 and probably also better than The Raven.
(08:07:11) flesk: The animations in the Kickstarter videos looked very good.
(08:08:07) Cheeseness: Yeah
(08:08:53) Marco: As backers can see in a video in our development forum, we've put great care into making the walking animations really smooth and blend seamlessly into any special animations.
(08:10:04) Marco: The animators who worked on the animations in the Kickstarter videos are also working on the ingame animations. :)
(08:10:25) Permafry_42: will the game include easter eggs like the radio in the raen
(08:10:30) flesk: That's good news. Walking/running was definitely the one thing that seemed to stick out as least polished for me in BoUT/CC.
(08:10:31) Permafry_42: *raven
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(08:13:14) Gregtherobot: I just went to try http://unwritten-tales.com and it failed to resolve for me as well.
(08:13:31) Cheeseness: Yeah, Marco just mentioned that they're working on bringing it back up
(08:13:59) Gregtherobot: Ah, sorry, didn't mean to add noise versus signal.
(08:14:27) Cheeseness: It's cool ^_^
(08:14:47) Marco: @Permafry_42: There will be lots of hidden details and allusions in the backgrounds, like in the previous games. Did anyone spot R2D2 and Sputnik in The Critter Chronicles? :D
(08:15:18) Marco: Hi Gregtherobot
(08:15:26) Gregtherobot: Hello! :]
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(08:16:01) Cheeseness: Marco: How many people did you have apply for the videographer internship?
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(08:16:22) Cheeseness: Hi liorean
(08:16:33) liorean: Hi Cheese
(08:16:35) Babar: where was that, Marco? :O
(08:17:20) liorean: Suggest a FTL ship layout for me to play. I have all except Lanius B
(08:17:26) Marco: @Babar: in front of the Critters' sanctuary
(08:17:43) Babar: :O
(08:17:47) Babar: missed it, I guess
(08:18:01) Babar: I saw the lightsaber, though, but that was pretty obvious :D
(08:18:15) Marco: @Cheese: There were at least a dozen applications
(08:18:38) flesk: Can't remember seeing them there, but then there was a lot of junk laying around that location.
(08:18:39) Gregtherobot: Lanius A, play with all the doors open in full vacuum.
(08:18:43) Cheeseness: Cool. I was thinking of putting my hand up, but I'm not really in a position to relocate at the moment, so I didn't apply
(08:19:00) liorean: I play with an open doors policy for most ships
(08:19:06) liorean: But lanius A, ok
(08:19:25) Gregtherobot: I changed somebody's life! :D
(08:19:52) Marco: way to go, Greg :D
(08:20:08) Gregtherobot: Marco, what /do/ they use the hose for?
(08:20:13) liorean: I'll keep my pilot within closed doors though.
(08:20:43) Marco: you'll see
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(08:21:04) liorean: Time to stop talking about FTL and join your BoUT
(08:21:06) liorean: talk
(08:21:24) Cheeseness: :D
(08:21:31) Marco: ^^
(08:22:14) Marco: brewing alcohol and a minotaur smoking strange herbs. Another case for the ESRB :D
(08:22:39) Marco: I had to play the whole game and capture scenes like that for the age rating submission :D
(08:22:47) Babar: brewing alcohol isn't for kids? :D
(08:22:55) Gregtherobot: Depends on the proof.
(08:23:10) Cheeseness: Did you have anything you had to trim down or cut for rating compliance, Marco?
(08:23:21) Gregtherobot: I was really hoping we'd be able to borrow the minotaur's pipe. >>
(08:23:37) Gregtherobot: Yes. Tell us Marco :0
(08:23:44) Marco: we have a little bit of everything in the game: gambling, smoking, alcohol, drugs, partial nudity (Ivo's outfit), bad language, ...
(08:24:04) Marco: but we still received an "Age 6 and above" rating :D
(08:24:10) Babar: Ivo's outfit would've lowered the rating?! :D
(08:24:50) Babar: Now I'm curious..what did she look like before?
(08:24:51) Cheeseness: Poor Blout
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(08:25:04) liorean:  We had a really long discussion about Ivo's outfit first episode
(08:25:19) Permafry_42: that reminds me: is there any plans to make changes to ivo's design for bout2? i admit it was one of the parts of the game i wasn't thrilled about to say the least
(08:25:30) Marco: we didn't change anything for the rating. Everything is as intended.
(08:25:44) Gregtherobot: Does Steam require an ESRB rating?
(08:25:49) Cheeseness: I don't think so
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(08:26:13) Marco: Don't know about Steam, but we had a box release long before Steam
(08:26:47) liorean: These armnour parts reminds me of the eating utensils of Broken Age. Though I realise these predate those.
(08:26:51) Gregtherobot: Any big sales left in the boxes?
(08:27:32) Marco: @Permafry: As you can see in the Kickstarter videos and title art, Ivo wears more clothes this time :D
(08:27:43) Marco: all of the characters have received a little workover
(08:27:50) Permafry_42: ah that's good :)
(08:27:51) Gregtherobot: I think I answered my own question.
(08:28:54) Cheeseness: :)
(08:29:37) Marco: @Greg: Depends on the countries. In Germany you can still sell enough boxed versions of an adventure game. Italy, France and Spain is a lot harder, especially because the target group for the localisation is a lot smaller than the English one
(08:29:41) Cheeseness: Did she just throw the heart away?
(08:30:43) Gregtherobot: I keep hearing that about Germany.
(08:30:45) Cheeseness: Is King Art a single team studio, or do you work concurrently on multiple projects?
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(08:31:09) Marco: We are working on 2-3 projects at the same time
(08:31:24) Cheeseness: Nice
(08:31:47) Gregtherobot: Bwahahaha now mushrooms
(08:31:48) Cheeseness: I'd guess that one is the BWK DLC, BoUT 2 and the third is unannounced?
(08:32:30) liorean: Ah, these. Took me longer than anything else in the game to see those mushrooms, I simply didn't see where they were
(08:32:32) Marco: right now we have the BoUT2 team, the Battle Worlds: Kronos team and a browser games team, but some people work on more than one project
(08:32:42) Permafry_42: Any plans for a sequel to the raven? or "no official word on that at this time"?
(08:33:19) Cheeseness: Speaking of browser games, it looks like the "My Little Farmies" image is wrong on this page http://kingart-games.com/browser-games/
(08:33:46) Marco: @Permafry_42: nothing planned at the moment, but there might be a sequel someday
(08:34:28) Marco: You're right, Cheese. I'll tell our website guy on monday. :)
(08:34:29) Cheeseness: We haven't done chapter 2 of The Raven for Game Club yet. We'll probably hop onto that in the next month or two, I reckon
(08:35:02) Permafry_42: cool; i'd love to see the world of that game expanded since i liked the realist setting of it
(08:35:48) Cheeseness: It's hard to imagine whether a proper sequel would work - things feel pretty wrapped up at the end. Mystery is a big part of what makes The Raven what it is, I think
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(08:38:19) Cheeseness: Ha ha, I saw that coming
(08:38:33) Permafry_42: If i saw a sequel, i'd like it if it has a completely separate cast set in the same time line and having the same mystery feel to it
(08:39:07) Permafry_42: that way the feel of the game would be the same but it would still feel like a seperate game from the original
(08:39:08) Cheeseness: Ah, yeah. A spin off could work
(08:39:20) Marco: @Cheese: Of course we'll only make a sequel if we have a good story.
(08:39:39) Cheeseness: (a direct sequel could work as well, it'd just be trickier to pull off and maintain the same charm)
(08:39:45) Cheeseness: Of course :D
(08:40:33) liorean: For a while I thought this puzzle was supposed to involve the Ogre, iddn't he have some lighting spell he talked about?
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(08:41:04) Cheeseness: This bit was pretty unexpected
(08:41:26) liorean: DDR style
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(08:42:39) Cheeseness: Marco: What do you think are the pros and cons of the BoUT engine vs Unity? The original engine was custom built using Ogre, right?
(08:42:51) Marco: yes
(08:43:08) Marco: Unity gives us a lot more flexibility
(08:43:31) Gregtherobot: I'm falling asleep.
(08:43:37) Gregtherobot: I love you all. Don't forget about me. <3
(08:43:46) Gregtherobot: And thanks for stopping in Marco. :)
(08:43:49) Cheeseness: Ha ha, night Gregtherobot :)
(08:43:55) Marco: with projection mapping we can have backgrounds with the same detail as BoUT1 but have more camera movement like in The Raven
(08:44:03) Permafry_42: cya greg!
(08:44:03) Cheeseness: Is this the same dragon from the beginning of the game?
(08:44:12) Marco: Good night Gregtherobot
(08:44:26) Marco: yes, it is, Cheese
(08:44:36) Gregtherobot: Permafry. <3 See you guys next time.
(08:44:37) liorean: Sounds very much like the same dragon
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(08:45:07) disharmonic: Hi
(08:45:10) Cheeseness: Hey disharmonic
(08:45:17) disharmonic: Are you guys streaming now?
(08:45:22) Permafry_42: hi disharmonic
(08:45:23) liorean:  YEs
(08:45:37) Permafry_42: yup
(08:45:52) liorean: Very nice dragons den, a bit low on the glittery stuff though
(08:45:55) Cheeseness: disharmonic: Yeah, are you on the Game Club page?
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(08:46:38) liorean: I prefer to use a separate chat and use http://www.twitch.tv/dfgameclub/popout for the stream
(08:47:35) Cheeseness: Yeah, I find a separate IRC client to be a bit nicer
(08:47:43) Marco: hi disharmonic
(08:47:52) SirSlade: Separate IRC here too.
(08:48:06) SirSlade: I kept clicking on the player and getting taken to a new page from the web irc...
(08:49:11) Cheeseness: Yeah, if you click on the video (rather than the play/pause controls), it'll take you to the Twitch page
(08:49:53) disharmonic: Twitch is broken for me atm it seems.
(08:50:06) Cheeseness: disharmonic: Darn. We've just been talking to the dragon
(08:50:27) liorean: I always prefer to have Twitch video in a separate window so I can resize etc. how I want. Actually one of the things I find lacking with youtube.
(08:50:37) disharmonic: Hi Marco , Permafry_42 liorean
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(08:51:00) disharmonic: Yet another Linux user here, so thanks for the support
(08:51:36) Cheeseness: Marco: Will the King of Thieves be making an appearance in BoUT2?
(08:52:00) liorean: King of thieves was a colorful character, I liked him
(08:52:06) Cheeseness: Yeah :D
(08:52:18) Marco: Cheeseness: I hope I'm not spoiling anything by saying yes ;)
(08:52:43) Cheeseness: That sounds like a cause for optimism ^_^
(08:53:10) Marco: there are several characters making a comeback
(08:54:54) liorean: Play it? Broken Sword was a good game.
(08:54:57) Cheeseness: "Do I look like a blacksmith?" he asks, just after casting some gold
(08:55:23) Cheeseness: We did the first Broken Sword game for Game Club last year. We'll come back and do the second at some point
(08:55:38) GameClubFan_103104: Still at this dragon part?
(08:55:43) Cheeseness: Yep
(08:55:48) SirSlade: Yeah, Cheeseness, I was just thinking that about the making a coin
(08:55:56) liorean:   Was that thge original or the HD remake? I thought the orihginal was better
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(08:56:08) Permafry_42: Will BOUT2 for GoG be drm free?
(08:56:28) Cheeseness: liorean: It was the remastered version (that's all that was on Linux, which Mim was streaming from)
(08:56:50) Marco: Permafry_42: I think it's mandatory for games on GoG to be drm free
(08:57:12) Marco: so, yes
(08:57:22) Cheeseness: Some of these scenes with panning gamers have a little too much camera movement when the characters are animated (the ruins puzzle last week stood out for that as well)
(08:57:31) liorean: Don't the sell some games that require developer logins?
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(08:57:41) liorean: IIRC Kalypso games require that
(08:58:03) Cheeseness: panning cameras^
(08:59:03) SirSlade: Reasons I don't play MMORPG's anymore...
(08:59:12) Permafry_42: sounds good. I'll be getting a steam key since it makes it easier to install the game onto multiple computers, but I've always been a fan of giving the option of a drm free version of a game to those who are strongly against drm
(08:59:18) liorean: Forging broken magic swords is easy. Mending them, now that is difficult!
(08:59:20) Cheeseness: Marco: It feels like King Art has a lot of adventure game fans. What do you think are the most stand-out titles of the past 10 years?
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(09:01:10) Permafry_42: I'm probably going to have to get going in a few minutes. Thanks to syd for streaming and marco for joining us!
(09:01:19) Marco: hard to say... I played many adventures in the last 10 years, but not that many in the last 2-3 years
(09:01:29) SirSlade: See ya later Permafry_42
(09:01:53) Marco: bye Permafry_42
(09:01:57) Cheeseness: Have fun, Permafry_42
(09:02:09) disharmonic: cya Permafry_42
(09:02:41) Permafry_42: thanks everybody and cya next week hopefully!
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(09:03:14) Cheeseness: heh, the recalcitrant magic talking item
(09:05:42) Cheeseness: I don't think I've ever played a game that's as filled with references
(09:06:01) Marco: ^^
(09:06:22) Syd: And that's it for this week. We'll be finishing up next week!
(09:06:24) Cheeseness: And yet the game feels like it stands well on its own
(09:06:25) SirSlade: I do love the plays on the troupes
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(09:06:42) Syd: Let me know when the outro ends so I don't cut anything off
(09:06:43) liorean: Thanks for the stream, Syd
(09:06:52) liorean: Outro finished
(09:06:54) SirSlade: It's over , Syd
(09:07:15) Syd: I would have been more chatty during the session but I didn't want to have to tab out. :P
(09:07:24) Marco: It's been fun with you guys :)
(09:07:26) SirSlade: Fair enough
(09:07:26) Syd: Thanks for joining us, Marco!
(09:07:37) Marco: you're welcome :)
(09:07:52) Cheeseness: Yeah, thanks heaps!
(09:07:53) SirSlade: Thanks for stopping by Marco, I know it's a bit late for you over there
(09:07:59) Cheeseness: Do you think you might join us next week, Marco?
(09:08:15) Marco: it's 1 in the morning, so it's not too late yet :D
(09:08:56) Marco: I'll have to see if I'm out partying next Saturday, but if I'm home I'll try to drop by
(09:09:13) Cheeseness: No worries. Let me know if you can and I'll get the word out :)
(09:09:32) SirSlade: Hey Cheese, how many more sessions is BoUT going to be?
(09:09:37) Cheeseness: We'll finish up next week
(09:09:39) Cheeseness: I reckon
(09:09:49) Cheeseness: It'll probably be another 2 hour session
(09:09:55) liorean: Two chapters left, right?
(09:09:57) SirSlade: Ah, sad. I'm going to be riding from Dallas to Houston next week...
(09:10:14) Cheeseness: I hadn't played BoUT before we decided to do it for Game Club - we weren't really prepared for how long it was :D
(09:10:24) Marco: haha
(09:10:24) Syd: The last bit of this chapter and the final chapter is what we have left.
(09:10:26) Cheeseness: Do you think BoUT2 will be a similar length, Marco?
(09:10:37) Marco: yes, it's one of the longest adventure games of the last years
(09:10:49) Cheeseness: It's really nice to have a game with some decent playtime to it - it feels like most adventure/narrative oriented games are much, much shorter these days
(09:10:51) Marco: we're aiming for a similar length
(09:11:12) Cheeseness: Awesome
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(09:12:40) SirSlade: Indeed. Well, see you all in probably two weeks (THough I may stop by on mobile next week. Not much to do on a car ride through the desert).
(09:12:47) Cheeseness: Alrighty, have fun, SirSlade
(09:12:58) SirSlade: Thanks for streaming to Syd, organizing Cheese and stopping by Marco
(09:13:18) Cheeseness: I was talking during one of our earlier sessions about BoUT's requirement for looking at stuff before you can interact with it
(09:13:37) Cheeseness: (or often requiring exhausting interaction options to see results)
(09:13:44) Syd: Some things have to be looked at multiple times (like the flowers by the orc gate had to be looked at twice before you could pick them up)
(09:13:47) disharmonic: BOUT is satisfyingly long. but i do have a minor complaint about the story pacing
(09:13:48) Cheeseness: I think that's a nice way to help avoid stuff being too obvious
(09:14:45) Marco: disharmonic: We're aware that the pacing is a little slow in some places, especially the Wild Lands
(09:15:07) Marco: We're doing our best to improve the pacing for BoUT2
(09:15:15) Cheeseness: It does feel like the urgency of the plot doesn't fit well with some of the pacing
(09:15:27) Cheeseness: (aside from that, I haven't minded the pacing)
(09:15:37) Syd: I was rather happy with myself for getting through the DDR minigame perfectly in one try for the session, heh.
SirSlade Syd
(09:15:44) Syd: It took me a few goes in last night's practice run
(09:15:45) Cheeseness: Yeah, you did well, Syd :D
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(09:17:03) Marco: haha, yeah, the DDR minigame probably cost many people a lot of nerves
(09:17:25) Cheeseness: What kind of feedback did you get on it?
(09:17:33) Syd: It was easier once I figured out that I had to hit it right when it lined up with the middle of the brackets
(09:17:44) Syd: Also might have helped that I used to play quite a bit of DDR some years back
(09:18:52) liorean: The DDR section was skillful
(09:20:10) Marco: some people had their children complete that minigame for them :D
(09:20:54) Cheeseness: heh
(09:21:14) Marco: we learned from that and will not include skill-based minigames in our games anymore
(09:21:31) liorean: I failed it a few times until I realised exactly when you needed to press the button combo
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(09:21:49) Cheeseness: The Raven's mini game felt like it was a little bit skill based
(09:23:09) Marco: which one?
(09:23:32) Syd: The shuffleboard one, or whatever that was?
(09:23:36) Cheeseness: The one that was played on-deck (I can't remember what it was called)
(09:23:38) Cheeseness: Yeah
(09:23:40) Marco: ah, ok
(09:23:44) disharmonic: Maybe you could just make them optional and have more than one way to pass the section or just a minigame "on/off" switch in the settings?
(09:24:15) Marco: if they're skipable, that makes them feel useless
(09:24:20) Cheeseness: Mmm
(09:24:41) Cheeseness: Although I enjoyed the ones in the original Sam & Max games
(09:24:41) Marco: at least the shuffleboard game wasn't based on timing
(09:24:43) Cheeseness: game^
(09:25:04) liorean: Maybe have a easy mode for any skill based minigames
(09:25:05) Marco: me too. The "Whack-a-mole" was great
(09:25:06) Cheeseness: Yeah, timing is tricky - especially when performance and frame rate can come into play
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(09:26:48) yama: Maybe you could let people skip mini games like that if they have failed a certain number of times? :)
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(09:28:22) Syd: I gotta head out. I'll see you all around. Thanks again for joining us, Marco! :)
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(09:28:57) Cheeseness: Cheers Syd
(09:29:58) Marco: bye Syd
(09:30:06) Marco: gotta go too
(09:30:09) Cheeseness: I might wrap up the chat log since things are winding down
(09:30:24) Marco: by everyone! :)
(09:30:27) disharmonic: Thanks for joining Marco
(09:30:39) Cheeseness: Thanks again for coming, Marco