Matthew Schroeder
Here's the deal: Their Cosmos, at least the High Level Gods ones, are clearly 4-D. Cronus was going to destroy all of time and space. Some can do conceptual and universal creation, others can create a dimension that warps space and time, others sustain universes with their will.
But.... Seiya managed to hurt Hades when he burned his Cosmos to his limit.
Seiya, who even with a God Cloth, isn't 4-D.


Oblivion00
Seiya is gonna be upgraded to 2-C isn't he?


Matthew Schroeder
no
I don't want that
neither do some of the admins I talked to.


Oblivion00
So he'll be staying at 3-A then


Matthew Schroeder
My explanation is this:
Cosmos doesn't work like traditional physics. It isn't something that functions in the same way as normal 1-D, 2-D, 3-D, 4-D matter.
But their bodies are 3D, with 4-D Cosmos within their souls (Which are immortal)

Matthew Schroeder
So, if they were attacking at the fullest of their power, they could vaporize everyone...

Matthew Schroeder
but their bodies can be hurt it they are not at 100% and actively trying to protect them.

Oblivion00
Ahhh I see

Matthew Schroeder
Which is consistent, Hades wasn't fighting seriously with anyone.
And the Saints were with the God Cloths, which are armors bathed in the blood of Athena, that grants than an artificial divine power.
Their durability is probably in the Lowest of 2-Cs
But everything else isn't.

Matthew Schroeder
Plus, this is only valid for Gods higher than Athena.
Many times we see weaker gods, deities with sealed power, or who are having their powers drained, and etc.

Oblivion00
Wasn't RouninOtaku trying to upgrade Seiya to 2-C?

LordAizenSama
i think so

Oblivion00
Btw Matt you're explanation makes sense

Matthew Schroeder
Kinda.
Seiya is only 2-C in the last minute of Heaven Overture
Which was the first movie of the Olympus Trilogy
but it bombed and became noncanon, sadly.

Matthew Schroeder
also, this Cosmos not being physical so we can't fully apply higher dimensional physics to it is consistent.
Because like, say, Capricorn Shura's Excalibur is Star Level.

Oblivion00
So only in noncanon material is Seiya in Tier 2. I'm also a supporter of Saint Seiya so it would have been nice if Seiya was 2-C.

Matthew Schroeder
He could theoretically split planets with it, and indeed in Episode G he splits some planetoids.
However, their attacks are focused on the atoms of the opponents.
And many times, not all the atoms, cause their attacks don't work like that.
In Episode G we see Aiolos, while trying to escape the Sanctuary clothless, getting attacked by Shura... The excalibur hits his shoulder
and that part of his body is gone, it's a gaping hole with blood pouring out of it.
flesh, bones, muscle, all destroyed.
But rest of body is fine.
Because Cosmos is not like Megatons, but energy that is equivalent to it.
This can also explain why the God Saints survived Hades's attacks.
They DO have healing factors
and they could theoretically be hit, and utterly destroyed in bits of their bodies, but on the whole alive.