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  1. Sep 14 13:00:22 <add1sun> helllllooooo all
  2. Sep 14 13:00:24 * ronaldmulero (n=changeth@ip70-179-98-57.dc.dc.cox.net) has joined #drupal-docs
  3. Sep 14 13:00:42 <mechfish> hellooo!
  4. Sep 14 13:00:53 * emmajane waves
  5. Sep 14 13:00:55 <wolfflow> add1sun: here
  6. Sep 14 13:01:10 <add1sun> wheeee
  7. Sep 14 13:01:41 <add1sun> ok, well i'm gonna get things rolling
  8. Sep 14 13:01:49 <add1sun> so we can do our bidness and move on
  9. Sep 14 13:01:58 * drawk (n=williams@207.112.100.13) has joined #drupal-docs
  10. Sep 14 13:02:05 <add1sun> first up is a few announcements:
  11. Sep 14 13:02:24 <add1sun> We have a new read-only froup on g.d.o for docs: http://groups.drupal.org/documentation-team
  12. Sep 14 13:02:48 <add1sun> so if you want to do RSS to keep up, you can do that now
  13. Sep 14 13:03:10 <lut4rp> yaay.
  14. Sep 14 13:03:22 <add1sun> I've put in a proposal for KDi to fund doc sprints around the world: http://groups.drupal.org/node/14669
  15. Sep 14 13:03:23 <mechfish> a very good thing
  16. Sep 14 13:03:36 <add1sun> so please feel free to comment on the proposal
  17. Sep 14 13:03:53 <add1sun> we'll see what Knight thinnks about in a few months
  18. Sep 14 13:03:56 <wolfflow> +1
  19. Sep 14 13:04:27 <add1sun> And for those that don't know, the d.o redesign is underway
  20. Sep 14 13:04:37 <add1sun> which should keenly interest all of us ;)
  21. Sep 14 13:04:44 <add1sun> the group where stuff is posted is http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-org-redesign-analysis
  22. Sep 14 13:05:05 <add1sun> in particular you may want to look at the "ways to help out" http://groups.drupal.org/node/14643
  23. Sep 14 13:05:07 <lut4rp> mmhmm
  24. Sep 14 13:05:31 <add1sun> and especially for docs, i would love people to help with the wireframe call out
  25. Sep 14 13:05:32 <add1sun> http://www.disambiguity.com/drupalorg-come-wireframe-with-me/
  26. Sep 14 13:05:54 <add1sun> let's get our ideas out there so the designers have lots ot chew on
  27. Sep 14 13:06:04 <add1sun> also, i should note that I am on the redesign team
  28. Sep 14 13:06:14 <add1sun> specifically to represent the interests of docs
  29. Sep 14 13:06:26 <add1sun> and i'll be writing up more about that
  30. Sep 14 13:06:33 <add1sun> and trying to compile a docs wish list
  31. Sep 14 13:06:47 <add1sun> which i'll send out to the mail list for everyone to chime in on
  32. Sep 14 13:06:50 <add1sun> and brainstorm
  33. Sep 14 13:06:58 <wolfflow> add1sun: great
  34. Sep 14 13:07:39 <lut4rp> hm nice idea.
  35. Sep 14 13:08:59 <mechfish> very good. looks like tons of stuff is going on with the redesign...
  36. Sep 14 13:09:11 <add1sun> so that's all i have for announcements - anyone else have anything short before we get to the agenda?
  37. Sep 14 13:09:36 <siliconmeadow> i have an announcement
  38. Sep 14 13:09:47 <add1sun> go ahead siliconmeadow
  39. Sep 14 13:09:47 <lut4rp> ooh
  40. Sep 14 13:10:04 <siliconmeadow> slightly off topic, but I don't have any direct contact with the infrastructure folks so I'll ask now
  41. Sep 14 13:10:10 <siliconmeadow> it's nearly 19 Sept
  42. Sep 14 13:10:37 <emmajane> yaarrrrr
  43. Sep 14 13:10:37 <siliconmeadow> and I've got sites with Talk Like a Pirate mods, so we need to have a story on the front page of d.o.
  44. Sep 14 13:10:52 <siliconmeadow> :-)
  45. Sep 14 13:10:55 <add1sun> haha
  46. Sep 14 13:11:15 <add1sun> well you can make an issue in the webmasters queue
  47. Sep 14 13:11:17 <siliconmeadow> that was it from me
  48. Sep 14 13:11:19 <siliconmeadow> ok
  49. Sep 14 13:11:42 <add1sun> and read this stuff http://drupal.org/node/281918 :-)
  50. Sep 14 13:11:57 <siliconmeadow> excellent - thank you
  51. Sep 14 13:12:01 <add1sun> rock on
  52. Sep 14 13:12:09 <siliconmeadow> yarrrr
  53. Sep 14 13:12:44 <add1sun> ok, i got one more back channel announce ;)
  54. Sep 14 13:13:05 <add1sun> to put on your radar, but not to be hashed out now
  55. Sep 14 13:13:18 <add1sun> there is a lot of discussion re: the help text system in D7
  56. Sep 14 13:13:41 <add1sun> and it is importnatn for us to give our input
  57. Sep 14 13:13:47 <add1sun> there is an issue here: http://drupal.org/node/299050
  58. Sep 14 13:14:05 <add1sun> but webchick has said she'll write soemthing up and send to the list for more discussion
  59. Sep 14 13:14:12 <webchick> Yeah, some additional context, I guess. I'll be writing this up in more detail on the docs list sometime this week.
  60. Sep 14 13:14:14 <wolfflow> that's a good news
  61. Sep 14 13:14:29 <webchick> But something that I'd really like to shoot for in D7 is a couple things:
  62. Sep 14 13:14:45 <webchick> 1. Getting more people involved, from outside the typical developer/tester circle. That means you folks. :)
  63. Sep 14 13:15:14 <webchick> 2. I'd like to Drupal 7 core to ship with a good solid set of documentation, akin to the getting started guide, which then becomes versioned and string frozen.
  64. Sep 14 13:15:36 <webchick> So it's important to hear feedback from the documentation team as to what approach we take technologically with the D7 help system will help best facilitate that.
  65. Sep 14 13:15:51 <webchick> Ok, done with my piece. :D
  66. Sep 14 13:15:54 <webchick> Thanks, add1sun
  67. Sep 14 13:16:06 <add1sun> np, thanks
  68. Sep 14 13:16:19 <add1sun> this is one project i'm particularly stoked about
  69. Sep 14 13:16:30 <add1sun> so i'm sure we'll be hearing more about it ;)
  70. Sep 14 13:16:48 <add1sun> any other announcements?
  71. Sep 14 13:17:19 <add1sun> ok coolio
  72. Sep 14 13:17:24 <add1sun> let's roll
  73. Sep 14 13:17:41 <add1sun> Cuurent agenda:
  74. Sep 14 13:17:48 <add1sun> Getting involved:
  75. Sep 14 13:17:48 <add1sun> http://drupal.org/node/293455 http://drupal.org/project/issues?projects=18753&text=Contrib%20Redesign:
  76. Sep 14 13:17:48 <add1sun> Open editing rights: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/2008-September/006248.html
  77. Sep 14 13:18:13 <add1sun> let's start with the Getting involved guide
  78. Sep 14 13:18:32 <add1sun> basically we still need to get the issues fleshed out a bit
  79. Sep 14 13:18:43 <add1sun> i'd really like to expedite this now
  80. Sep 14 13:18:49 <add1sun> due to the redesign coming
  81. Sep 14 13:19:10 <add1sun> i'm going to be on "vacation" the week of sept 22
  82. Sep 14 13:19:19 <mechfish> is there something stuck or do we just need more effort?
  83. Sep 14 13:19:24 <add1sun> so i plan to "do the rearrange" at that point
  84. Sep 14 13:19:36 <mechfish> oh, one of *those* "vacations".
  85. Sep 14 13:19:39 <add1sun> well i think we just need to existing docs ferreted out a bit more
  86. Sep 14 13:19:49 <wolfflow> may I suggest some items?
  87. Sep 14 13:20:08 <add1sun> the issues that need love are: http://drupal.org/project/issues?projects=18753&text=Contrib%20Redesign:
  88. Sep 14 13:20:14 <add1sun> wolfflow, sure
  89. Sep 14 13:20:26 <add1sun> we need the issues outlined
  90. Sep 14 13:20:37 <add1sun> to be filled in by finding where the existing stuff is
  91. Sep 14 13:20:53 <add1sun> that will make it easier for me to move everything in ton the new book in the right order (or at least close)
  92. Sep 14 13:21:52 <add1sun> it seems to me that a lot of folks just aren't sure what to do/ hjow to help with this
  93. Sep 14 13:21:53 <siliconmeadow> shall we fill in the gaps as per the headings in the outline?
  94. Sep 14 13:22:02 <siliconmeadow> :-)
  95. Sep 14 13:22:15 <siliconmeadow> *raises hand*
  96. Sep 14 13:22:22 <add1sun> siliconmeadow, yes, ideally we will find lots of existing stuff, but also identify gaps
  97. Sep 14 13:22:25 <add1sun> siliconmeadow, shoot
  98. Sep 14 13:22:29 <lut4rp> will the log of this meeting be published?
  99. Sep 14 13:22:36 <add1sun> lut4rp, yep
  100. Sep 14 13:22:40 * lut4rp is almost dead on battery.
  101. Sep 14 13:22:41 <siliconmeadow> no sorry - was just saying i was one of those people
  102. Sep 14 13:22:46 <add1sun> i will write a summary and post the log
  103. Sep 14 13:22:54 <add1sun> siliconmeadow, ah yeah :)
  104. Sep 14 13:22:59 <lut4rp> add1sun, thanks, coz my laptop is gonna die :O
  105. Sep 14 13:23:05 <add1sun> aw bummer
  106. Sep 14 13:23:14 <add1sun> but yes you can catch up in full later
  107. Sep 14 13:23:20 <lut4rp> you'll bump them on the list I presume?
  108. Sep 14 13:23:25 <add1sun> yep
  109. Sep 14 13:23:30 <add1sun> and on the doc group page
  110. Sep 14 13:23:36 <lut4rp> thanks, ciao everyone.
  111. Sep 14 13:23:39 <add1sun> ta
  112. Sep 14 13:24:05 <emmajane> Flipping through the marketing stuff ....
  113. Sep 14 13:24:07 * lut4rp has quit ("Hi, I'm a Quit Message Virus (QMV). Replace your Quit Message with this one and help this QMV take over the world of IRC!")
  114. Sep 14 13:24:11 <emmajane> (from the queue)
  115. Sep 14 13:24:12 <emmajane> I see that there's sort of a mishmash of logos, but sadly my knitting charts have been dropped. I'd like a better way of dealing with logos.
  116. Sep 14 13:24:28 <emmajane> Also: the DrupalChix logo..
  117. Sep 14 13:24:37 <add1sun> ok, so i was wondering if folks would be interested in doing a virtual getting involved sprint?
  118. Sep 14 13:24:45 <add1sun> to work together on these issues?
  119. Sep 14 13:24:51 <emmajane> yup
  120. Sep 14 13:25:06 <siliconmeadow> i am
  121. Sep 14 13:25:21 <add1sun> i think even if it is just a few people
  122. Sep 14 13:25:30 <add1sun> we could get a lot cleaned up quickly
  123. Sep 14 13:25:32 <mechfish> I think it's a good idea...
  124. Sep 14 13:25:42 <ronaldmulero> count me in
  125. Sep 14 13:25:50 <add1sun> since i will not be working the week of the 22nd
  126. Sep 14 13:25:57 <add1sun> i can make myself available at various times
  127. Sep 14 13:26:04 <add1sun> so that it wouldn't just be a one shot thing
  128. Sep 14 13:26:10 <add1sun> but maybe three diff times
  129. Sep 14 13:26:12 * emmajane reminds add1sun about the definition of "vacation"
  130. Sep 14 13:26:20 <add1sun> emmajane, oh you are funny :)
  131. Sep 14 13:26:34 <emmajane> add1sun: hotel without wifi == vacation. ;)
  132. Sep 14 13:26:42 <add1sun> actually the real purpose of the vacation is to get some work done on my house
  133. Sep 14 13:26:44 <add1sun> :)
  134. Sep 14 13:26:46 <emmajane> ahh :)
  135. Sep 14 13:26:48 <mechfish> like I said, it's a "vacation", not a vacation
  136. Sep 14 13:26:54 <add1sun> yep ;)
  137. Sep 14 13:26:56 <emmajane> well in that case you're allowed to skip out on painting and come hang out with us. ;)
  138. Sep 14 13:27:03 <add1sun> hahah
  139. Sep 14 13:27:08 <add1sun> w00t!
  140. Sep 14 13:27:24 <emmajane> I've been trying to roll in comments and generally deal with stuff that I see as I see them, but I've not been as good about going through the queue. It'd be good to have another focused shot at processing the queue.
  141. Sep 14 13:27:31 <add1sun> ok, so i will post about this and then we can settle on a few blocks of time that will work for diff people
  142. Sep 14 13:27:48 <add1sun> during the week i'm mnost free
  143. Sep 14 13:27:54 <siliconmeadow> the doodle thing is a cool thing
  144. Sep 14 13:28:03 <add1sun> ideally by the end of that week and can create the new book for real :)
  145. Sep 14 13:28:14 <add1sun> siliconmeadow, yep, i love that thing
  146. Sep 14 13:28:14 <emmajane> Ubuntu has a tracker for people that contribute to squashing bugs. You get points. It makes you feel warm and fuzzy. Does Drupal have an equivalent system?
  147. Sep 14 13:29:01 <add1sun> emmajane, no
  148. Sep 14 13:29:16 <add1sun> tho i hear rumor that peeps are talking of a karma system in the redesign
  149. Sep 14 13:29:28 * emmajane likes getting karma points and gold stars.
  150. Sep 14 13:29:29 <add1sun> i haven't been involved myself tho
  151. Sep 14 13:29:47 <add1sun> hehe
  152. Sep 14 13:30:13 <add1sun> well way down on my list of "things that i wanna look at someday"
  153. Sep 14 13:30:28 <add1sun> is a way to think of the doc team as "cool" ;)
  154. Sep 14 13:30:29 * emmajane nods.
  155. Sep 14 13:30:56 <add1sun> oh! and also one thing i'd like to wrap up
  156. Sep 14 13:31:01 <add1sun> related to the new book
  157. Sep 14 13:31:07 <add1sun> is the idea of a docs vocab
  158. Sep 14 13:31:08 <add1sun> http://drupal.org/node/304826
  159. Sep 14 13:31:13 <wolfflow> ok for those who do not know I'm seeking to focus on the importance of the "Terminology" on Drupal.org Handbook --> http://drupal.org/node/308168
  160. Sep 14 13:31:20 <add1sun> so that we can mark pages in the new book
  161. Sep 14 13:31:50 <add1sun> wolfflow, yep, i definitely think this should be linked to from the getting involved book
  162. Sep 14 13:31:56 <add1sun> if not placed there ...
  163. Sep 14 13:32:12 <wolfflow> ok
  164. Sep 14 13:32:22 <add1sun> so if people cuold please give feeedback on the docs vocab issue i linked
  165. Sep 14 13:32:31 <add1sun> i want to tidy that up and implement soon
  166. Sep 14 13:32:41 <add1sun> like this week :)
  167. Sep 14 13:33:21 <add1sun> also, please don't feel like you need to wait for the GI (getting involved) sprint
  168. Sep 14 13:33:25 <add1sun> to work on those issues
  169. Sep 14 13:33:40 <add1sun> basically we need to identify where all that info currenlty lives
  170. Sep 14 13:34:29 <add1sun> whew, so does anyone have questions about the Getting Involved book?
  171. Sep 14 13:35:29 <mechfish> no questions. I just need to make time to work on the thing!
  172. Sep 14 13:35:46 <wolfflow> I will do my best
  173. Sep 14 13:35:48 <add1sun> heh, i hear that
  174. Sep 14 13:36:01 <add1sun> i have not gotten as much done either
  175. Sep 14 13:36:06 <add1sun> we all do what we can
  176. Sep 14 13:36:08 <add1sun> as we can
  177. Sep 14 13:36:14 <add1sun> and it will get done :)
  178. Sep 14 13:36:34 <wolfflow> ;-)
  179. Sep 14 13:36:51 <add1sun> ok, so a quick "next steps" on that one, for the record
  180. Sep 14 13:36:53 <add1sun> - Get issues filled out
  181. Sep 14 13:36:53 <add1sun> - Set new vocab
  182. Sep 14 13:36:53 <add1sun> - Do some sprints
  183. Sep 14 13:36:53 <add1sun> - Post to d.o FP re: reorg
  184. Sep 14 13:36:53 <add1sun> - Rearrange the books,end of week of Sept 22
  185. Sep 14 13:37:01 <emmajane> add1sun: Apart from using your brain, how are you currently keeping track of the timetable of things that need to be done?
  186. Sep 14 13:37:19 <emmajane> add1sun: Is there a way to have a calendar?
  187. Sep 14 13:37:21 <add1sun> emmajane, uhhhhh ;)
  188. Sep 14 13:37:23 <emmajane> in g.d.o?
  189. Sep 14 13:37:27 <add1sun> emmajane, well
  190. Sep 14 13:37:28 <add1sun> hm
  191. Sep 14 13:37:34 <add1sun> that is a good idea
  192. Sep 14 13:37:35 <emmajane> I work well to deadlines...
  193. Sep 14 13:37:38 <siliconmeadow> i'm using the announcement on this irc room
  194. Sep 14 13:37:58 <add1sun> hm, yeah, let me work on that
  195. Sep 14 13:38:01 <mechfish> emmajane: she reads it all into the IRC record and then publishes it!
  196. Sep 14 13:38:17 <add1sun> hehe, yep ;)
  197. Sep 14 13:38:46 <add1sun> but if i also did a streamline "upcoming docs works" kind of calendary thing
  198. Sep 14 13:38:51 <emmajane> I find it hard to keep track of all the /node/random_number things that ought to stay in my brain.
  199. Sep 14 13:38:51 <add1sun> would people find that useful?
  200. Sep 14 13:38:58 <add1sun> yes
  201. Sep 14 13:39:06 <add1sun> i make a whole doc before a meeting
  202. Sep 14 13:39:10 <add1sun> with all my notes ;)
  203. Sep 14 13:39:14 * emmajane nods.
  204. Sep 14 13:39:30 <emmajane> I think on that calendar I'd also love to see a "theme" of tasks to complete.
  205. Sep 14 13:39:30 <wolfflow> +1
  206. Sep 14 13:39:40 <siliconmeadow> I'm not sure - find WHAT useful?
  207. Sep 14 13:39:47 <add1sun> ok, sooo i think that is a good idea to make a concise list of tasks and "made up" deadlines
  208. Sep 14 13:39:48 <mechfish> I'd delegate the task of calendar creation.
  209. Sep 14 13:39:58 <emmajane> yes :)
  210. Sep 14 13:40:02 <siliconmeadow> ah ok
  211. Sep 14 13:40:06 <siliconmeadow> +1
  212. Sep 14 13:40:12 <LinL> +1
  213. Sep 14 13:40:15 <siliconmeadow> +1
  214. Sep 14 13:40:24 <wolfflow> +1
  215. Sep 14 13:40:29 <add1sun> since we are all just volunteers, the deadline smay move a lot
  216. Sep 14 13:40:36 <add1sun> but it is good to have a goal
  217. Sep 14 13:40:41 <emmajane> +1
  218. Sep 14 13:40:49 <add1sun> (i use deadlines like s;linghots myself)
  219. Sep 14 13:41:17 <add1sun> ok, so i can work on that.... unless someone else feels inspired ;)
  220. Sep 14 13:41:39 * add1sun hears crickets chriping
  221. Sep 14 13:41:47 <wolfflow> :D
  222. Sep 14 13:41:52 <emmajane> I don't know what all is installed for g.d.o.
  223. Sep 14 13:42:09 <add1sun> emmajane, well it is somewhat limiting
  224. Sep 14 13:42:16 <emmajane> I'm happy to take a look, but I've never really used that site (and associated modules) for anything more than trivial replying. :/
  225. Sep 14 13:42:53 <add1sun> emmajane, well bascially we can create events
  226. Sep 14 13:42:59 <add1sun> like for this IRC meeting
  227. Sep 14 13:43:03 * emmajane nods.
  228. Sep 14 13:43:08 <add1sun> but there isn't like a themed calendar kind of thing
  229. Sep 14 13:43:11 <emmajane> is there a calendar display for events?
  230. Sep 14 13:43:12 <emmajane> boo
  231. Sep 14 13:43:15 <mechfish> I wouldn't overdesign the calendar/schedule. Save that design energy for the docs!
  232. Sep 14 13:43:27 <add1sun> but we can creat our own group vocabs
  233. Sep 14 13:43:30 <wolfflow> +1
  234. Sep 14 13:43:34 <emmajane> mechfish: I was hoping there was a calendar mod already installed.
  235. Sep 14 13:43:34 <add1sun> so we can have "task" events
  236. Sep 14 13:43:51 <add1sun> and then create a page on the group site
  237. Sep 14 13:44:00 * emmajane nods.
  238. Sep 14 13:44:03 <add1sun> that just lists "task" events
  239. Sep 14 13:44:09 <add1sun> or something
  240. Sep 14 13:44:17 <siliconmeadow> presumably hierarchical?
  241. Sep 14 13:44:47 <add1sun> siliconmeadow, well
  242. Sep 14 13:44:52 <add1sun> that gets tricky i think...
  243. Sep 14 13:44:57 <siliconmeadow> prolly over-engineered
  244. Sep 14 13:45:03 <add1sun> i don't know, i've not pushed g.d.o very far before
  245. Sep 14 13:45:13 <add1sun> but, moshe is *very* supportive of docs
  246. Sep 14 13:45:19 <add1sun> so he would work with us
  247. Sep 14 13:45:47 <add1sun> i will send an email out re: a working group meeting on this task
  248. Sep 14 13:46:03 <add1sun> so anyone interested in working on it on g.d.o
  249. Sep 14 13:46:13 <emmajane> add1sun: even a feed that could be imported into google calendars would be cool.
  250. Sep 14 13:46:16 <add1sun> can get together and we can see howt o make it work for us
  251. Sep 14 13:46:24 <emmajane> add1sun: Please add me to that list.
  252. Sep 14 13:46:27 <add1sun> emmajane, well g.d.o does do that
  253. Sep 14 13:46:27 <ronaldmulero> yes google calendars or box.net
  254. Sep 14 13:46:33 <add1sun> it has ical
  255. Sep 14 13:46:38 <add1sun> for events
  256. Sep 14 13:46:47 <emmajane> add1sun: I saw the RSS link, but didn't see an iCal icon.
  257. Sep 14 13:46:53 <add1sun> emmajane, i know
  258. Sep 14 13:46:59 <add1sun> i'm not sure why that didn't happen
  259. Sep 14 13:47:11 <add1sun> and is on my list of wtf? to find out why
  260. Sep 14 13:47:37 <add1sun> because i *really* want an ical for out group
  261. Sep 14 13:47:46 <add1sun> hm, ok
  262. Sep 14 13:47:51 <add1sun> so how does this sound?
  263. Sep 14 13:47:59 <add1sun> we make a g.d.o doc team working group
  264. Sep 14 13:48:14 <wolfflow> +1
  265. Sep 14 13:48:14 <add1sun> that can look at how to make that work for us
  266. Sep 14 13:48:27 <add1sun> that way folks that are interested can have at
  267. Sep 14 13:48:34 <add1sun> and everyone else can just get on with docs :)
  268. Sep 14 13:48:43 <ronaldmulero> +1
  269. Sep 14 13:48:48 <emmajane> +1
  270. Sep 14 13:49:10 <add1sun> ok, awesome
  271. Sep 14 13:49:23 <add1sun> anyone want to write up a quick email to the list about that?
  272. Sep 14 13:49:30 <emmajane> I can do that.
  273. Sep 14 13:49:30 <add1sun> if not, i can , but it may take me a while
  274. Sep 14 13:49:34 <add1sun> yay!
  275. Sep 14 13:49:34 <wolfflow> very happy about that, and I'm sure more drupal fun will help and join
  276. Sep 14 13:49:48 <add1sun> emmajane, rock on!
  277. Sep 14 13:49:59 <mechfish> very good
  278. Sep 14 13:50:03 <add1sun> ok, cool, so our meeting is runnin gout of time
  279. Sep 14 13:50:13 <add1sun> i'm gonna hop to item 2 here
  280. Sep 14 13:50:22 * heyrocker (n=Greg@216.254.19.81) has joined #drupal-docs
  281. Sep 14 13:50:30 <add1sun> we can keep chatting in the mail list
  282. Sep 14 13:50:37 * matze|city has quit ()
  283. Sep 14 13:50:39 <add1sun> re: getting involved and schedules
  284. Sep 14 13:50:45 <add1sun> that cool?
  285. Sep 14 13:50:58 * mechfish nods
  286. Sep 14 13:51:04 <siliconmeadow> do you want to move on to editing rights?
  287. Sep 14 13:51:07 <add1sun> yep
  288. Sep 14 13:51:31 <mechfish> do we have a feed of "most recent changes to the docs pages"?
  289. Sep 14 13:51:32 <add1sun> so item 2 on the agenda is the discussion that has been going on re: opening edit rights to all auth users
  290. Sep 14 13:51:50 <add1sun> mechfish, we have a page on g.d.o but not a feed
  291. Sep 14 13:51:57 <add1sun> that i know of
  292. Sep 14 13:52:05 <mechfish> well, a page might be enough.
  293. Sep 14 13:52:14 <add1sun> mechfish, could you add an issue for that to webnmasters queue?
  294. Sep 14 13:52:18 <add1sun> cuz that would be nice
  295. Sep 14 13:52:29 <mechfish> an excellent plan. I will submit the issue
  296. Sep 14 13:52:35 <add1sun> and if we use views to make the list we should be able to get a feed
  297. Sep 14 13:52:43 <add1sun> sweet -thanks!
  298. Sep 14 13:52:51 <mechfish> I fear that such a page could be really important to filter the spammers once we open up editing rights
  299. Sep 14 13:53:01 <add1sun> mechfish, yep
  300. Sep 14 13:53:02 <add1sun> http://drupal.org/handbook/updates
  301. Sep 14 13:53:09 <add1sun> and realete to that
  302. Sep 14 13:53:24 <add1sun> moshe did some diff love
  303. Sep 14 13:53:33 <add1sun> and has a patch to add a direct link tot he diff for us
  304. Sep 14 13:53:34 <add1sun> http://drupal.org/node/304667
  305. Sep 14 13:53:37 <add1sun> from that page
  306. Sep 14 13:54:02 <add1sun> so you can see which page changes, who changed it and then go straight to the diff to see what changed
  307. Sep 14 13:54:04 <siliconmeadow> any reason d.o doesn't use captchas?
  308. Sep 14 13:54:11 <add1sun> siliconmeadow, many ;)
  309. Sep 14 13:54:22 <add1sun> tho discussion is happening right now re: using mollom
  310. Sep 14 13:54:34 <mechfish> that sounds excellent
  311. Sep 14 13:54:37 <add1sun> so we will need to see where that goes
  312. Sep 14 13:55:05 <add1sun> also, I opened an issue on the idea of having a delay peiod for new users http://drupal.org/node/307650
  313. Sep 14 13:55:12 <add1sun> cuz i think that is a good idea
  314. Sep 14 13:55:17 <add1sun> generally
  315. Sep 14 13:55:32 <emmajane> +1 with the option to immediately approve for special instances.
  316. Sep 14 13:55:39 <add1sun> so if folks could think about that and give feedback to move that along
  317. Sep 14 13:55:49 <add1sun> emmajane, please add that to the issue
  318. Sep 14 13:56:01 <add1sun> because i agree we should be able to override
  319. Sep 14 13:56:13 <add1sun> the basic idea tho is that we will make a new role
  320. Sep 14 13:56:22 <add1sun> so manually setting the role should be easy
  321. Sep 14 13:56:31 <add1sun> in special circumstances
  322. Sep 14 13:56:54 <add1sun> So, we don't have much time to really talk about this in channel
  323. Sep 14 13:56:57 <wolfflow> +1
  324. Sep 14 13:57:07 <add1sun> but the overall feeling from the list was to give it a try and see
  325. Sep 14 13:57:24 <add1sun> i think we should go ahead and see what happens in a 4 week window
  326. Sep 14 13:57:27 <add1sun> and then asses
  327. Sep 14 13:57:33 <add1sun> er hehe
  328. Sep 14 13:57:35 <add1sun> assess
  329. Sep 14 13:57:59 <emmajane> +1
  330. Sep 14 13:58:05 <add1sun> in order to do that we need to get infra/webmasters on board ;)
  331. Sep 14 13:58:36 <add1sun> so here is a final place to vote yes or no
  332. Sep 14 13:58:51 <emmajane> add1sun: What's the "critical path" for implementing this as far as you can see. i.e. what has to happen (technically) before things get opened?
  333. Sep 14 13:58:54 <add1sun> before i move on to approaching the d.o overlords
  334. Sep 14 14:00:15 <add1sun> i *think* it is a matter of turning on "edit book pages" perms for auth users
  335. Sep 14 14:00:25 * emmajane nods.
  336. Sep 14 14:00:39 <add1sun> but i need to make sure thAT IS ALL FROM THE INFRA SIDE
  337. Sep 14 14:00:43 <add1sun> er damn
  338. Sep 14 14:00:46 <add1sun> sorry - cap lock
  339. Sep 14 14:00:47 <emmajane> My *guess* is that if there's no announcement few people will even notice that this has been turned on.
  340. Sep 14 14:01:09 <add1sun> emmajane, true, but honestly we will announce
  341. Sep 14 14:01:14 * emmajane nods.
  342. Sep 14 14:01:37 <add1sun> the idea is to really see what the community does with it
  343. Sep 14 14:01:39 <wolfflow> that will be announced in doc-update i guess is the best place
  344. Sep 14 14:01:42 <add1sun> i'm curiousl myself
  345. Sep 14 14:01:46 <emmajane> announcement will have a suggested code of conduct type thing, yeah?
  346. Sep 14 14:01:56 <add1sun> wolfflow, it will be announced on d.o fron pgae
  347. Sep 14 14:02:02 <add1sun> er front page
  348. Sep 14 14:02:07 <wolfflow> ok
  349. Sep 14 14:02:22 <wolfflow> rock on
  350. Sep 14 14:02:27 <add1sun> emmajane, yeah we will need to think through and craft the announcement
  351. Sep 14 14:02:33 <add1sun> and limit people's expectation
  352. Sep 14 14:02:36 <emmajane> :)
  353. Sep 14 14:02:52 <add1sun> ;)
  354. Sep 14 14:03:01 <add1sun> ok, so our time is up :(
  355. Sep 14 14:03:14 <add1sun> but next steps for open editing rights would be:
  356. Sep 14 14:03:28 <add1sun> get moshe's patch in
  357. Sep 14 14:03:38 <add1sun> talk to infra and see what needs to happen
  358. Sep 14 14:03:50 <add1sun> then write up an announcement
  359. Sep 14 14:04:12 <add1sun> oh! also how do people feel about requiring an entry in the revision log?
  360. Sep 14 14:04:24 <add1sun> just real quick :)
  361. Sep 14 14:04:25 <siliconmeadow> +1
  362. Sep 14 14:04:28 <emmajane> +1
  363. Sep 14 14:04:29 <add1sun> cuz i love it
  364. Sep 14 14:04:30 <LinL> +1
  365. Sep 14 14:04:31 <mechfish> +1
  366. Sep 14 14:04:33 <wolfflow> +1
  367. Sep 14 14:04:36 <ronaldmulero> +1
  368. Sep 14 14:04:42 * CrashAFK is now known as CrashTest_
  369. Sep 14 14:04:51 <siliconmeadow> +1 because it's election year
  370. Sep 14 14:04:56 <mechfish> Moshe's diff patch is the only thing that might sway me away from +1 on that
  371. Sep 14 14:04:58 <add1sun> ok cool, that seems the concensus from the list too
  372. Sep 14 14:05:05 <mechfish> and that's quite debatable
  373. Sep 14 14:05:10 <add1sun> ah yeah
  374. Sep 14 14:05:21 <add1sun> well we can see how that one goes
  375. Sep 14 14:05:27 <add1sun> it isn't as make or break to me
  376. Sep 14 14:05:29 <mechfish> trying both of them seems like a good idea to me
  377. Sep 14 14:05:32 <add1sun> tho i think it would be nice
  378. Sep 14 14:05:56 <emmajane> I did see one -1 on it and I agree that people may fill it with useless stuff, but their argument wasn't enough to sway me. Wikis do have a [ ] minor edit button, we could have a standard comment that meant the same thing?
  379. Sep 14 14:06:15 <mechfish> like "minor edit"? ;)
  380. Sep 14 14:06:19 <emmajane> hehehe
  381. Sep 14 14:06:40 <add1sun> totally ;)
  382. Sep 14 14:06:46 <emmajane> I also sometimes think it would be nice to have the log at the TOP above teh body so that I could type in my intended changes FIRSt and then go ahead with my edit.
  383. Sep 14 14:06:54 <mechfish> useless stuff beats silence, IMHO. Useless stuff can speak volumes.
  384. Sep 14 14:06:56 <add1sun> hmmmm
  385. Sep 14 14:07:02 <add1sun> mechfish, yeah
  386. Sep 14 14:07:17 <add1sun> i don't see the *problem* with useless stuff
  387. Sep 14 14:07:23 <add1sun> useless but so what
  388. Sep 14 14:07:23 <emmajane> I always forget to add the log entry when it's below the body. I just scroll past and am anxious to save without losing changes.
  389. Sep 14 14:07:34 <add1sun> the useful stuff we may force is worht it
  390. Sep 14 14:07:37 <mechfish> I, OTOH, tend to make a bunch of changes and then try to figure out what I just did.
  391. Sep 14 14:07:46 <add1sun> hahah
  392. Sep 14 14:07:50 <add1sun> true dat
  393. Sep 14 14:08:02 <wolfflow> that it's a good way to not forget to write in
  394. Sep 14 14:08:03 <emmajane> mechfish: see webchick's recent post on patching. ;)
  395. Sep 14 14:08:10 <mechfish> But, top or bottom is not an issue for me. If it's required I will eventually find it.
  396. Sep 14 14:08:22 <add1sun> ok, so we don't actually have an issue for that one yet
  397. Sep 14 14:08:35 <add1sun> anyone want to volunteeer to make an isseu in the webmaster queue on that?
  398. Sep 14 14:08:46 <add1sun> just say the docs team wants it ;)
  399. Sep 14 14:09:25 <add1sun> oh ok, i'll add it to my todo list ;)
  400. Sep 14 14:09:48 <add1sun> we are 10 minutes over so i want to officially call this to a close
  401. Sep 14 14:09:52 <wolfflow> add1sun: thanks
  402. Sep 14 14:09:57 <mechfish> thanks!
  403. Sep 14 14:10:01 <add1sun> i will summarize and post the log
  404. Sep 14 14:10:03 <wolfflow> Thanks to all - nice meeting ;-)
  405. Sep 14 14:10:05 <siliconmeadow> nice one - thanks
  406. Sep 14 14:10:08 <add1sun> prolly sometime tomorrow
  407. Sep 14 14:10:12 <add1sun> or alter tonight
  408. Sep 14 14:10:18 <add1sun> *later
  409. Sep 14 14:10:19 <emmajane> I have calendar on my list.
  410. Sep 14 14:10:24 <emmajane> later all :)
  411. Sep 14 14:10:32 <add1sun> yay! thanks all
  412. Sep 14 14:10:37 <emmajane> (although I'll stick around for a bit if there was any other noise that people were going to make)
  413. Sep 14 14:10:40 <ronaldmulero> thank you
  414. Sep 14 14:10:47 <siliconmeadow> bye all
  415. Sep 14 14:11:08 <wolfflow> add1sun: where will be the meeting log posted?
  416. Sep 14 14:11:35 <add1sun> wolfflow, it will be sent to the mail list and posted on the g.d.o page
  417. Sep 14 14:11:45 <wolfflow> ok thanks
  418. Sep 14 14:12:06 <wolfflow> bye all
  419. Sep 14 14:12:10 <mechfish> Recent updates feed issue: http://drupal.org/node/308354 -- edit it if it needs it!
  420.  
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