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  1. THE SAUCE // EPISODE 6: THE DEVIL'S IN THE DETAILS (TRANSCRIBED)
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  3. *Music*
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  5. Intro:
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  7. [Ironix] Whatdup y'all. Its your boy Ironix The Crip, hitting you up with a special podcast this week.
  8. Episode 6 of the sauce. We got Moneypower and Dante dropping some intensely deep philosophies of pickup followed by some mechanics that you can take out and use in the field right after the show. We're gonna have segments on, the elements and philosophy of pickup, appropriate male protocol (AMP), contrasting open source pickup with commercial pickup, giving choice, speaking and experience life in the moment -some real eghart tole shit right there -, then we're gonna have learn about hypnotic inductions. You gonna learn all about juxtaposition, patterning interrupts, floods, posturing and forces. With not much to do, im gonna leave it back to my men here.
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  10. [xxxmoneypower] So i guess we should record now?
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  12. [Dantering] Haha, I think a lot of people, esp the noobies on r/pickup kinda need...Just by being around i know I've picked up a ton of the mechanics and essential ideas behind pickup and your specific style of pickup. If you could distill it into essential concepts, elements, tenets, whatever, how would you lay that out?
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  14. [xxxmoneypower] That's a big question. I think a lot of where I'm coming from has to do with...being the best possible version of yourself and nothing more or nothing less. Like, instead of bolstering things you're deficient in or ignoring things you're already succeeding in, bringing all of that to the table and then being present with it. A lot of guys have heard alot of fluctuation in my approach blurbs which are sometimes like, "Hey you know what, i was just across the street and I literally ran over here, just to meet you, i think you looked ravishing or whatever and spitting in out, Hi my name is." all the way to
  15. "You know what its crazy i was gonna walk over here and say something really witty but I couldn't think of anything so here I am and you know what? You can take it or leave it cuz it feels good just to say hello. My name is..." Or, "Hey you know what? Its not often enough that strangers say hello. My name is..." And a lot of guys look for those things to be canned and all they really are, are statements that come from like actually deep inside of me, even bringing them up now i basically just think about about the situation I'd like to navigate and say everything that would come to my mind in it. And i think a lot of these things come to everyone naturally we just squelch them and try to go to ritualistic stuff that doesn't really work. Um, because like, social interactions have been diluted into pleasantries, so if you decided to play that game its a competition, but if you shoot an arrow through the fog which is honesty, vulnerability, and candor, then you're playing a different game and basically that game is, I'm a sexually viable male who's capable of telling the truth which is a powerful gambit so far as meeting new people is concerned.
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  17. [Dantering] Mmhmm
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  19. [xxxmoneypower] Umm so just like I say, when things tend to go in the direction of cold, or they're not quite as hot as you'd like them to be, that's when the mechanics to help you blast through it, but most of the time, whenever there is any interest, just put the shit aside, esp when she seems really hooked, because those are the moments as the community we're really living for, like super human, super intimate, even though we're just strangers who are just meeting, which is something that I think everyone wants, not only men and women but men-men and women-women and you look towards people to really connect.
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  21. [Dantering] Mmmhmm
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  23. [xxxmoneypower] Umm I think one of the most interesting things that gets over looked around here is that like, hypnotic rapport, trance inductions, all the hocus pocus bullshit happens all the time. Um, and we've kind of found some language to describe those states and you don't have to engineer them to enjoy them but its nice to know what to look for so you can say, Wow the reason why I feel like I'm with someone I really enjoy, time flies" is because I've been partial to non-verbal time distortion. Or the reason when I was out on this date and she broke the conversation to say, "You know what, I'm having a really nice time" is because she pattern interrupted the lame ritual of a dinner date. And like you don't need the language to enjoy those things but you can have it and use it when necessary, and i think that's kinda cool.
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  25. [Dantering] Yea definitely. Um, talking about coming from the place of candor, honesty, and vulnerability. I know everybody wants that. I'm sure everyone wants that but its hard to think that way or feel that way when you've been soo structured and ritualized into pleasantries. Do you have any ideas or exercises or ways to get at those impulses and bring them to the surface?
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  27. [xxxmoneypower] Mmmm I think they're always there but sometimes we ignore them. Ways to get at them, as lane as it sounds, keeping journal help, either written or audio. Also speaking to yourself in the mirror like decompressing at the end of the day can help, speaking to a loved one can help, someone who you trust and will just listen. I think there's a lot of power of hearing yourself speak or reading your own words and then considering them like , "did i really mean that?" and then digging more into it. And um, I think introspection is a really powerful tool for connecting with the person that you were before grade school, high school, college, etc, before you learned about the way people behave. You know as a weird off-shoot I think like as we get older, we lean that we don't need to be sorted like we were in really structured rigid protocols. You know mid life crisis where a duded takes his tie off and buys a Mercedes says a lot about breaking the mold and we don't have to wait that long either. Like if anything a lot of this stuff kinda forces a premature breakdown of everything you thought you had to do. And then you're like, "You know what? I don't have to approach a girl and tell them I like their shoes or purse. I can just say, 'Hey i think you're really attractive and I thought it would be cool to say hello and maybe we get along and maybe we don't.' " I think there is a lot of merit and value in that.
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  29. [Dantering] And on that note, I feel like a lot of the approaches and ideas behind masculinity that's been in the commercial pickup community has honestly probably like ruined the frameworks for a lot of people and has got guys totally approaching women in the wrong way, so i was wondering if you could go into what we've termed in the IRC as AMP (Appropriate Male Protocol) behavior as opposed to being "alpha". Like the framework for being a high value male and what this means against the stereotypical idea of being alpha.
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  31. [xxxmoneypower] Well whats interesting is that um, I think a lot of the "old cycle" pickup stuff was designed to prove a point, or to gain an edge, or to like almost lash out and strike back at women for what had been done to certain dudes in that industry before they found social dynamics. And I think now, men are interested in freedom, I don't want to be held back by bound by my own perception of what i can do in public or how it happens or how interactions with women work. So when i think about AMP i think it has a lot to do with being enabled to enable others. and i think that's what really gives value like i tend to kind of take things back to my model and understanding of evolutionary psychology and when i think about high value males in a tribal structure, or back when we were in more primitive societies; being "alpha" meant being able to sustain and lead others. and alot of that has to do with caring for others um and filling deficits and also recognizing when deficits need to be filled by others than you. Um, so when it comes to like Appropriate Male Protocol, I think a lot of it has to do with just actualization or self-realization like recognizing your ability to affect change and not be affected by environmental or behavioral constraints.
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  33. [Dantering] and realizing that you do actually have kind kind of a responsibility to step in where you can.
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  35. [xxxmoneypower] yea i think so. I mean that's how i feel. and that's one of the things, around here at least, I've really tried to uphold. Which is I will continue to teach you better ways to interact with women, so to speak, so long as you come to me with the most honest version of yourself. I wont teach you how to manipulate girls. I wont teach you tricks or gimmicks. I'd much rather give you a better functioning model for your whole life where success romantically and sexually is involved in that. I think that's a more holistic approach where as like most commercial dudes tackle one problem like, "How do I number close?" or "How do I kino bro?" What I wanna do is like, "How do you wake up in the morning and how do you go to sleep at night? and How do you spend your days?" I think there is more information there and more opportunity for change there, that is sweeping or um, is more like a paintbrush as opposed to a pencil, you know what i mean? And i think the pencil work is something you should figure out for yourself; I don't think i should give you lines or things to say, i don't think that's very powerful if anything i think it means you're weak because it means you are using tools and not your own force of will. So like the place from whence you come is where I'd like to start. and then we can talk about the other stuff as it comes to you but I'm not gonna shove it down your throat before you get there.
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  37. [Dantering] Speaking of, on that topic of some dudes manipulating women and such. I know you have a really strong emphasis on the idea of giving them choice, which is something I've had to instruct new people who are come to the IRC a lot about. Would you like to really lay it down on the line officially for us here?
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  39. [xxxmoneypower] Yea the idea of giving choice is just that. Its not ok in my book to use any sort of presence, physical or otherwise, to influence the decisions of others. Its not AMP. Whats infinitely more powerful is offering people the opportunity to be engaged with you as a human being or to interact with you as apposed to saying things like, 'Yo we should hang out sometime" because its a slight fore which goes down the road of passive aggressivitey? Um..what passive aggression? I don't even fucking know. Can you say aggressivity? Now I really wanna know.
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  41. [Dantering] Umm we can say it here
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  43. [xxxmoneypower] Yea aggressivity. Wow. Anyways, yea i think choice is something that gets neglected and can leave a lot of people feeling like their interactions were empty, constructed, and borderline manipulative or abusive. So that's one of the things, when I say like, when I offer to hang out with a girl I say things like, "You know what, its been really nice meeting you, would you like to hang out again sometime?" which allows me to assume the vulnerability where as, "Hey we should hang out again sometime" which forces her to outright say no which some girls don't feel comfortable doing, which is a reason a lot of girls flake on guys that don't assume a choice position is because when they're away from you, the like, "I don't want to hang out but i didn't wanna say no either" and i think you'd be surprised how many people wanna say yes. and given the opportunity to do so we'll actually find a way to enjoy the experience much than if they thought they were forced into it. When I think about choice vs those intermediate forces, it reminds me of like used-car salesmen dialects of persuasion. And im not about that in human relationships this isn't business, this is real life, so there needs to be another layer of delicacy so to speak.
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  45. [Dantering] Continuing on something we've mentioned before, dealing with building very strong rapport, do you have any thoughts on that because I know, like you said, what do you say after hello is a very big topic.
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  47. [xxxmoneypower] Mmm what do you mean?
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  49. [Dantering] I guess what I'm wondering is that a lot of guys have trouble figuring out what to say, where to go with their conversation, and i imagine when you're operating from the genuine emotional base, its a lot easier to go from there but do you have any general tips and tricks for dudes that loose their tongues?
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  51. [xxxmoneypower] I think one of the most interesting things is to start with is don't force it. Like if it doesn't fit don't force it. A lot of guys in moments of silence will fell the need to fill the void and i think its better to notice the void and acknowledge it like, "its crazy you know before i came up to talk to you i figured that I'd have all sorts of shit to talk about but now that we're here its just kinda nice to sit here in silence, its really comfortable." and that's more of the candor and more of the honesty and more of the ability to be in a situation to and acknowledge it for what its it and nothing more. A lot of the times when you meet strangers you aren't really interested yet in where they go to school, or what their studying, or their opinion on politics. Its more like, "I'm just interested in you as a human and this aesthetic that I see and this ideal I've made up in my head before I approached you and if we could just enjoy that for a second that would be enough for me, we don't have to force anything into it and then as a matter of fact, I would like to get to know you, why don't we do it some other time. Would you like to get coffee sometime soon?" and that's why a lot of the time I'm in the approach for only a little bit because the middle of the street is a difficult place to get to know people on an intimate level, its just not very intimate. Its possible to create intimate moments on the street but I think it requires a lot of energy, and i don't mean like its exhausting, I mean that you have to devote to it and I'm not sure that's what everyone wants to do right off the bat. But i do encourage that stuff when you do get comfortable talking to strangers to go the extra mile and live the entire moment. "You know what? This has been awesome. Are you walking this way? Cool I'm gonna walk this way too and i don't know for how long but I'd like to just savor this just a little more, if you don't mind." And that's another place where id tag choice on the end. "And if you wanna part ways id understand that too" and yea i think that shits really cool as well.
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  53. [Dantering] Imagine when you do be that straight up and honest even if you're like I don't really know what to say, it become less about you putting on a show so much as, you know, you become two people who become a moment together and chances are that whoever she is will probably pitch in and help.
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  55. [xxxmoneypower] Yea I think a lot of guys forget that we all want this experience like if you think about it, on the other hand, if a woman said these things to you it would be so mind melting at least for me, that id prob wipe my whole schedule just to live it. and a lot of girls will do that too because they're people. like the distinction between man and women is good when like comes to matching your genitalia and figuring out what fit and what doesn't. but um....But the fact of the matter is that we both have human desires...Ya know?
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  57. [Dantering] Yea. Yea. Um ok moving into more covert hypnosis related stuff, could you tell us a little bit more about the idea behind the submodalities of juxtaposition?
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  59. [xxxmoneypower] Juxtaposition is a kinda like an overarching theme of hypnosis. its a really powerful tool because our brain recognizes patterns and when it comes to distinguishing new pattern it notices the differences. and if you could break that out of a sentence, "notice the difference is really strong because I can pick what the difference is. and i can force the brain to use that as the flag when its processing information. um so yea that's kinda the power of contrast is that its what sticks out from everything else. Um which is a good place to start for most guys to understand why things such as those weird hypnosis wheels, those spirally circles uh white and black, can be kinda mind fucking, i think thats an interesting tie-in, maybe not exactly science but kinda cool. Why a gold watch looks soo great with like a black suit. Diamonds kinda have the same thing going on offset with skin tone. Lightness in darkness. A candle in the night. Probably one of the reasons why its soo interesting to look into the night sky and see the stars and the moons. Um you don't pay attention to the night sky so much as you pay attention to the offset of the stars in the night. Um what else. I mean there are all sorts of other things in your daily life that you pay attention to because they stand out. A pretty face in a sea of faces. A girl in a red dress on a city street. um, The red heel on a labutin high heels, um thats an interesting contrast. Um, if an ice cube was touched to your skin. Um, if you walked under a vent that was blowing Ƽeally hot air. Um, all those things induce a certain type of state, one in which your brain goes, whats different here and that's kinda the theme of juxtaposition.
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  61. [Dantering] Hmm, um so for example in during a pattern interrupt, say the typical handshake induction where you shake hands with somebody but right in the middle of it you stop so its neither on the up point, or the down point and then you take their hand and rotate that horizontally. Could you explain whats going on there and why and how that induces a trance state in context of what you just said about juxtaposition.
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  63. [xxxmoneypower] Umm predictable trajectories are things when broken that we pay attention to. Id be like if you threw a tennis ball against the wall and for some reason it was soo dead or flat that it just fell to the ground, you'd really pay attention to why it didn't bounce back into your hand. It would probably be all you could thing about till you solved it; till you picked the ball up and realized it didn't bounce. Um in the context of handshake interrupt, what you're doing is breaking the pattern. Right? Ok so you take their hand, you were shaking, and we all expect it to go up down up down and then recede. But if you do anything else, in the middle, between the punctuations of up and downs um. The brain waits for more inputs to figure out whats happening, and if you can layer there and bring more cards to the table from your fucking covert hypnosis stack, you can juggle the trance induction. What does that mean, it means i can add other things like a flood, or some recursion, or even go into some of the like...collapses, where you break the barrier down between me and you. Then you're gonna get a stack state. What does that mean? It means where i take her hand and I like we shake and then I pull her slightly towards me and turn the hand over; its now a new interaction and not a handshake and she wasn't expecting a new interaction she was expecting a handshake. So i can lay something there like, "*sexy slow voice* Wow....you have...incredibly sexy hands. *superfast voice* and you know what that's crazy because my mother, my mother was actually a seamstress and she had the most amazing hands, and my grandmother too, *slowing down voice* her mother as well. This is insane I feel like we've known each other for forever." Um and breaking into stuff like that builds the intimate moment because the whole the the patterns interrupted she's creating a new pattern by paying attention to whats different and by trying to see where this trajectory is going. I like to think pattern interrupts as the reason you remember a particular thing in a very generalized setting. Such as, um a field of grass is one thing but a horse in a field of grass is another. and your ability to focus on what exactly the grass was like when you're staring at a wild horse in the middle of it, decreases. You only want to focus on this chance happening. And if i made it even crazier, like, a pink elephant, to be really cliche...
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  65. [Dantering] Mmmhmm
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  67. [xxxmoneypower] The only thing you could think about is the pink elephant. But the pattern interrupt really isn't the most interesting mechanic at work there. Its the grass. Which is a metaphor for a flood. Its all the information that looks soo similar you don't assume that anythings different and you take it at face value. You assume It is what it is. Each blade of grass is unique but you don't care because its a field of grass. There is enough of it to stop considering the differences. It would actually be too overwhelming to try to analyze all of them at once. Right?
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  69. [Dantering] Right.
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  71. [xxxmoneypower] So that's cool because now I can start changing the color of the grass and as long as the elephant remains pink and the grass remains reasonably natural, you wont care to notice the difference. and interestingly enough i can even put things in the grass or trees around it. Flowers, maybe some sort of cottage and then you would just be like, "Oh this is was some sort of meadow scene with a farmhouse. but that's not important. Whats was important was the pink elephant that I saw. I couldn't believe it was there." Meanwhile I've written something ridiculous on the farmhouse that you didn't even notice. and whats even crazier is that everyone been considering this as a real thing but now I can say, "Yea and this is just an explanation of a painting I saw in an art museum." and now I've changed the frame. So now the induction is even stranger and now everyone constructed an idea of what the art museum looks like. and I can be like, "well it was an art museum and the painting was on the wall and it was surrounded by these red velvet ropes, and I couldn't really get that close to it but it was perfect because there was this girl right there and she was blond and really attractive and i just had to approach her and that's how i learned about trance inductions, especially about floods and pattern interrupts while describing them to this female while we're staring at this picture of this scene, of a pink elephant in a meadow with a farm house behind it, don't pay attention to the fact that the farmhouse had fuck you on it, it was written soo small you didn't notice anyways, until you got really close. But anyways that's just kinda a lil tidbit for guys who are picking apart inductions, I don't like giving anything away; I like to make people work for it.
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  73. [Dantering] Haha, well then you dont necessarily have to give this away if you don't want to, but you mentioned something recursion which is something I don't think we've heard of yet on the subreddit so if you'd like to go over that maybe.
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  75. [xxxmoneypower] Um, The idea of recursion involves making someone self aware. The classical Ericksonian handshake induction involves an acknowledgement of what the air or breeze feels like on ones own skin. Recursion is like not only the recipe but also the process of cooking the recipe., Its also self modifying, so like inside an interrupt or inside some sorta induction, I can do things like, "You know and that was the thing, as we were shaking hands i noticed you had really sexy hands, and so did my mother and my grandmother because they were both seamstresses, and its funny because the more you listen to what I'm saying, the more you can probably imagine what my family is like and how important they are to me that I still remember them, but its not important actually lets talk about something else. and you may have noticed how I slipped in, "as you listen to what I'm saying."
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  77. [Dantering] MmmHmm
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  79. [xxxmoneypower] and i put it in a cadence in a format of a flood so that no one stops to think about whether or not they're listening, but it just deepens compliance. It also allows me to blur the line between me and you. It allows my voice to collapse the barrier of your inner monologue so that it becomes mine. Other things you could do is ask the way is to ask her to notice the way something feels and then blast through it. Like, "Its crazy because right now, this feels..really comfortable...doesn't it..." Which is like two forms of recursion right there, I'm also tag lining compliance, and its used as a force to make her consider what i just said. and whats funny is usually when you try stuff like that you'll actually get an emotionally aroused state, so while she's bouncing its like, "Well I feel comfortable but at the same this is really exciting" while that's going on in her head I'll just interrupt and be like, "You know what, that's not important, What is important is that we're having this moment again right now and I'd like to have it again some other time. What do you think?" Which is a direct shift of her focus to something else. and I can go wherever I'd like. um and all those things are at work there. I think a lot of the guys will notice that "mechanics" happen all the time naturally. even when we don't try, which is why just acknowledging them and implementing them later is a great learning model.
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  81. [Dantering] Mmmhmm. Earlier when you were speaking about floods and pattern interrupts, you mentioned the idea of trajectories and how during pattern interrupts or just that juxtaposition in particular we tend to Ƽollow that trajectory to see where its going. Something I've defiantly learned that's really been very interesting to me is that a lot of the time, we'll allow the context of an interaction to change and play ball so long as we are led to it in such a way that it doesn't completely break rapport i suppose. Or the natural ritual with we can sort of subvert with induction.
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  83. [xxxmoneypower] What do you mean?
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  85. [Dantering] Well you were saying how when you're shaking hands with somebody and then you turn their hand over, it interrupts the original handshake and as they're still in this handshake mode and but they're trying to find a new pattern, you're constructing a new trajectory for that interaction into a sexual frame, into a flood, into more pattern interrupts, and recursion, and I just think its really interesting to think that a lot of the time people are willing to accept whatever new context you give it, so long as you give it in a subtle enough way.
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  87. [xxxmoneypower] Oh definitely, I think even in overt ways. How many times do you go to shake someones hand and they say, "Aww come here gimme a hug." And you go immediately into the hug and you don't even think about it, you certainly don't say no, you just sit there with your hand out while they collapse into you. Hugging you. And strangers even do that with each other. You'll see it a lot when guys from western culture go to i dunno, Europe. Like an American culture is better(for this example) and they go to Europe and like they'll go to shake a girls hand and meet her and then she'll prepare herself to receive a cheek kiss and the guy will be soo pattern interrupted he just kind, "* Uuhhh stutter stammer dUUhh" and she just looks at him like, "Ha...Hypnotoad!" so yea I think people even take egregious um alterations to their frames whenever they're presented so long as they're presented in a safe way.
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  89. [Dantering] On that topic, would you be interested in talking about posturing a little bit?
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  91. [xxxmoneypower] Ya for sure. What is posturing? Posturing is basically the assumption of either dominance or submission. And we do it constantly. Generally we notice physical posturing and tend to ignore verbal posturing. Or not have the language to describe it. For instance, a guy bumps into in public and you suddenly broaden up and look at him and act slightly offended, that's assuming a posture. Some guys get bumped, get knocked out of the way, and kinda cower and just continue walking and mutter, "Ugh asshole." Which is submissive physical posturing and then passive aggressive, dominant "uppie downies" verbal posturing. Generally when presented with the situation where they had to say that to the person who bumped their space they probably would not say it. We do this for ourselves to gain a sense of hierarchical structure and we do this in social interactions all the time to assert ourselves.Um so far as AMP is concerned, you should never have to posture unless you're the leader or protector of a group. Meaning when its just you and someone else, so long as your physical person isn't threatened, there should be no need to verbally posture. and no need to consciously posture because you're gonna do that on your own. um but sometimes in groups you're gonna notice that if you're the guy that everyone looks up to, that there's a need to assert yourself for the sake of everyone else like when someone exudes behavior thats inappropriate, its on you to say, "Hey you know what that's not cool. Were not gonna do that." and that could even lead into a situation where need to physically posture and be like, " No I'm serious. That's not gonna happen here. Thank you." and a lot of times, well centered people don't even need to go there. Guys who want to do things that are not cool wont even try that shit around superiors males. An example of some posturing that i think has been kind coming up in our chatroom lately is dudes doing passive aggressive shit so they can stand out in the sea of guys I don't really know yet. Laughing, when there's nothing to laugh at is another one like, "HA ah. Ha ah Ha huh hehe huh..." is like," Yea what you said is ha huh, ignore it. It was funny i guess. ha." Or the guys who type LOL or ROFL incessantly at things aren't supposed to be funny. Like, "Ha! i laugh at that. I'm so beyond it. I fart in your general direction, fuckwad." is just like, I dunno lame?
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  93. [Dantering] Ya.
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  95. [xxxmoneypower] Ya know if you don't think if something is funny, you don't have to laugh. But most of those guys that are feel the need to speak or be acknowledged in some way and that's a quick leg up.
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  97. [Dantering] Its interesting how that related to kinda the AMP because i know you mentioned that somebody who's following through that protocol doesn't need to posture because they have an unconscious posturing because their reputation precedes them.
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  99. [xxxmoneypower] Yea. Um, posturing is like a massive topic because its an important of societal function. Another thing I instantly thought of though, um, was that sarcasm can be a form of posturing. It kinda asserts that, "I'm intelligent enough to know what you were trying to say and I'm gonna repeat it back to you, to show you how stupid it is." And obviously that's a short-sighted explanation of what sarcasm is on a core level but that's just something for the guys to consider if its coming into their behavior. The need to mock others um. The need to not take things seriously might actually be because you're scared you're not capable of actually contributing to serious discussions and you don't know how to now participate because you need the validation of being involved. But yea that's kinda all my things on it for now, its a massive topic.
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  101. [Dantering] Um ok I don't know if you want to go so far but um you've mentioned in the channel before, that posturing is a form of forces? Would you like to talk about forces at all?
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  103. [xxxmoneypower] Yea in the context of posturing I'll talk about forces. Um, basically some forms of posturing, require people to behave in certain ways and/or escalate aggressively to call you out on what you're your doing. If someone says something asshole to you, "Haha you're a dick" and then you go, "Hey man don't call me a dick" and he says, "Woah relax bro, i was just kidding man" would force me to say, "No you weren't kidding. You're actually being an asshole. Fuck you." Ignoring assumes bottom posture and in a lot of cases means will mean that behavior directed towards you will continue. and the whole "relax bro" thing forces you to escalate to prove you are indeed relaxed. and if you go the completely loosing route which is like, " I AM RELAXED!" then you're basically defending something that was loosery in the first place. A lot of the times its AMP to say, "I'm not gonna be apart of this" and leave the situation, that's how effective posturing is and that's why a lot of bar jerks do it. The only way it ends is in you leaving or there being some sort of like nearly aggressive situation because guys, when called out on this shit, will vehemently deny that its happening. And then they'll ask you if you have a problem. Um, yea if you're around guys like that, I really suggest getting in a new social circle. Extremely immature; unfortunately it runs rampant. Rampant in internet culture where guys can hide behind their keyboards, effectively eliminating the option of being called out. They can choose to just ignore it or continue to posture. and its super prevalent in pickup culture because a lot of guys, in pickup culture, have problems asserting themselves, as males, and reclaiming their masculinity, and in that process they want to bump elbows with anyone else around around them to prove that they're alpha an d confident. Which is why, in a lot of ways, all the bullshit advice on being more alpha is shitty. Its a shitty way of saying you should posture as much as possible so everyone knows you're the boss. But if you run into a guy who's actually self aware or interested in defending his group where you're posturing, you're gonna notice those guys are not gonna take kindly to you at all. It can be really dangerous.
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  105. [Dantering] Yea good way to get beat up. Going along with uh male protocol some more uh, you've definitely said in the past that high value males give value and you've also said not to anchor negative thoughts or states with yourself. When it comes to negative thoughts or states to yourself but um, when it comes to something you disagree with how would you deal with that situation? Like whether its, you know, a confrontation or just somebody asking your opinion on someone else or even hell, you know, something that's happening that's not personally related.
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  107. [xxxmoneypower] Well. One of the things about negatives is that you inherently aren't seeing the good in something. Um, I'm not one of the guys who's like, "Positive mental attitude! Always gotta have it!" I think that's unrealistic and a form of self-force. You're basically choosing to ignore a lot of things but in the context of conversations with strangers and relationships, you might find that the more things you talk about that are negative by nature, the more things you talk about that are negative by nature, the more people will only associate those things with your person and if that's not what, you should cut it out of your conversational lexicon. And there's almost always a way to say things without being overtly negative like, "Yea that's something else. I pssh don't even have anything else to say about it." as opposed to, "Yea hes a fucking asshole that fucking prick. He's a piece of shit." Meanwhile this girl is hearing all those words in her head, so she's looking at you while you're saying he's a fucking asshole, hes a piece of shit. And its really hard to un-wire that; you're basically telling her to think those things and you're the only guy in the room.
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  109. [Dantering] hahaha
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  111. [xxxmoneypower] So yea. thats that topic
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  113. [Dantering] hahahaa
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  115. [xxxmoneypower] You can extrapolate that all you want. One of the interesting tie-ins that i think some of the guys in the IRC got a kick out of was, its why girls that go super cold on you are probably the ones that are gonna sleep with you the fastest, its because if they're in their head freaking out like, "Fuck you! Fuck Him! Fuck that guy!" She's looking at you and screaming, Fuck That Guy." Anyways ill leave that to the ?appearance? guys to get more into.
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  117. [Dantering] Hahhaa yea ok so.
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  119. [xxxmoneypower] I think that's it man. Honestly
  120.  
  121. [Dantering] Yea?
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  123. [xxxmoneypower] Yea i think we're going over our time limit but I just wanna thank everyone for listening. This community has been receiving a hell of a lot of support lately. For Sleazecon i know a lot of you guys, BA5H0, however you say your name. Uh, JDog420 AKA Pure_Ambition, i know did a lot of nice shit or talking about doing some really nice shit for some homies that are international trying to get to Sleazecon. MoreKinoBro, props. Um, whoever this anonymous SleezConThroAway dude is; words cannot even describe how much you're changing this community. It means a lot to us as moderators, that there's guys that wanna see this shit around. Um, I hope everyone knows that at the end of the day, I don't think we have all the answers. I don't think anyone ever will. But I wanna be here to ask all the right questions. Um, and so long as you're here with questions, I'll be here with everything I got. I think we're really doing a good thing and i think we're really directing a new generation of men in a direction that's really strong. and i think our world needs right now. So if you can, listen with stuff with a grain of salt, that's the best way to learn. and realize that's exactly we want you to do, is be a discerning self-aware male. and that is what, at the end of the day, being a man is all about.
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  125. [Dantering] Very cool. Thanks Moneypower.
  126.  
  127. [xxxmoneypower] Aright bro.
  128.  
  129. *Outro
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  131. [Ironix] We'll goddamn, I swear that was the most technical podcast to date. My mind is absolutely blown away by the craziness if that shit. Just the same, get your head back on straight and put your cool on because its time for you to hit the field with the knowledge that just got dropped on you. And remember, stay in the moment G.
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  133. *Rap Music*
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  136. Transcribed by YouTheMan aka DumerPumper
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