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[05:11] <@virtuallann> guys please read this. read the whole thing then come back here.
[05:11] <@virtuallann> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=513613.new#new
[05:27] <@Idol> virtuallann,
[05:27] <@Idol> y post that for the pubilc?
[05:28] <@Idol> not wise to post hta t for the public
[05:29] <@virtuallann> that question i think comes from thinking we should keep this lie secret
[05:29] <@Idol> no
[05:29] <@virtuallann> well for me it is
[05:29] <@Idol> but i gave you guys
[05:29] <@virtuallann> i was lied to
[05:29] <@Idol> insideer info
[05:29] <@virtuallann> we were lied to in the foundation
[05:29] <@virtuallann> everyone was lied to
[05:29] <@Idol> so we can try to find a way out
[05:29] <@virtuallann> insider info is one thing
[05:29] <@virtuallann> this is a lie and deception
[05:30] <@virtuallann> its been bugging me ever since i read it
[05:30] <@Idol> dont post so you kill my investment altogether?
[05:30] <@Idol> you maybe out
[05:30] <@virtuallann> dude my investment is dead
[05:30] <@Idol> i still hold coins
[05:30] <@virtuallann> i got out maybe 20%
[05:30] <@virtuallann> nothing can come from this unless we are honest and start from a new grounmd floor
[05:30] <@Idol> with you post you will take what hope we may have
[05:30] <@virtuallann> we are riding on lies and mirages of a better future
[05:31] <@Idol> plz
[05:31] <@Idol> take it dn
[05:31] <@virtuallann> i will not
[05:31] <@Idol> ok
[05:31] <@Idol> have it you way
[05:31] <@virtuallann> people should know whats going on
[05:32] <@Idol> what ever i was trying to do
[05:32] <@virtuallann> stuhl coundt even be honest with us we had to find out from you
[05:32] <@Idol> i cant do any more
[05:32] <@red5standingby> nor can i idol. i have no more resources...
[05:32] <@Idol> red5standingby, did you look at the post virtuallann posted?
[05:33] <@virtuallann> its like this foundation is supposed to get the moon wioth a ball of string
[05:33] <@red5standingby> yes. i would rather not see it in public. now i think the coin will die
[05:33] <@Idol> this foundation is not what it seems to ne
[05:33] <@virtuallann> red did i say anything that wasnt true?
[05:33] <@Idol> call ppl liers and manipulater will not get any help to the coin
[05:34] <@virtuallann> then devs and stuhl should come clean and set a new floor to build on
[05:34] <@Idol> not after that post they have no need to....
[05:34] <@Idol> its done
[05:34] <@virtuallann> all they had to do was say sry investor backed out but we still have 1 titan to make things work
[05:34] <@virtuallann> but they couldnt even tell that to US and wer on the foundation
[05:35] <@Idol> ok
[05:35] <@red5standingby> no u didnt. i agree with idol though. i will speak for myself and idol. yes we have large bags, but in no way have we tried to manipulate. as far as lieing, i have not spoken anything untrue nor has idol
[05:35] <@Idol> just kill ti
[05:35] <@Idol> just kill it
[05:35] <@virtuallann> im not talking about the foundationlying you guys are awesome
[05:35] <@Idol> pull the triger
[05:35] <@virtuallann> stuhl and the devs. lying, deception, indifference, stonewalling
[05:36] <@Idol> let the public see all that
[05:36] <@Idol> its done
[05:36] <@Idol> no need for Stuhlman to fix anything
[05:36] <@virtuallann> my boat is sunk too i had over 20btc in
[05:36] <@Idol> ok
[05:36] <@Idol> i have more in
[05:36] <@virtuallann> but this is bullshit
[05:37] <@Idol> y kill it for the rest of us?
[05:37] <@virtuallann> what did u think was gonna happen?
[05:37] <@Idol> youcould have found a way out..with less lose
[05:37] <@virtuallann> coast on stuhls vague promises some more?
[05:37] <@Idol> no you just fok it up for rest of us also
[05:38] <@virtuallann> for a few being fucked up maybe more will not lose their shirts altogether
[05:38] <@Idol> i have been working on something for caix
[05:38] <@Idol> but i feel i cant tell any thing here
[05:38] <@Idol> so i dont
[05:38] <@virtuallann> 2 choices. let it die, or acknowledge the missteps and work from there
[05:38] <@Idol> it had no buys
[05:38] <@Idol> you jst killed it
[05:39] <@virtuallann> well thats part ofg the problem the isnt it
[05:39] <@Idol> done! over!
[05:39] <@virtuallann> erveryone wants to keep their secrest
[05:39] <@Idol> no
[05:39] <@Idol> virtuallann, you wnat to loose all?
[05:39] <@virtuallann> dude i sat in here and was considering buying a titan for this coin man i wanted it to happen
[05:39] <@virtuallann> but this is bullshit whats going on
[05:39] <@Idol> can you take the post dn
[05:40] <@virtuallann> no. i feel like a weight is lifted off me getting it out
[05:40] <@Idol> ok
[05:40] <@Idol> ty for foiking me also
[05:40] <@red5standingby> yea virtuallann empty promises, missed dates. vague info. however there could be ways to limit loss as idol says. pls consider taking down. i know we are all pissed and angry. i can understand but pls consider removing.
[05:41] <@Idol> but y hurt me?
[05:41] <@virtuallann> im not out to hurt u man, i appreciate what u did telling us what was going on
[05:42] <@virtuallann> we just gotta rip off the bandaid and deal with it
[05:42] <@Idol> you just killed 40000$
[05:42] <@Idol> ty ?
[05:43] <@virtuallann> im sorry
[05:43] <@Idol> plz take it dn
[05:43] <@virtuallann> how many other people have money in this
[05:43] <@virtuallann> who cares about them right?
[05:44] <@virtuallann> that would be me if i wasnt on the foundation
[05:44] <@virtuallann> id want to know
[05:44] <@Idol> you kiling it for all ppl with that post
[05:44] <@Idol> not only me
[05:44] <@Idol> all
[05:44] <@virtuallann> im not killing it for all people im revealing the truth on whats happening here
[05:44] <@Idol> you still dont get it...
[05:45] <@virtuallann> i understand u are financially invested but u know everything i do and stayed in
[05:45] <@virtuallann> u knew way before we did and u stayedf in
[05:45] <@Idol> coin will die with that post..so you not saving anyone
[05:45] <@Idol> i dont manpulate
[05:45] <@virtuallann> if i knew whan u knew what was going on i wouldnt have lost so much
[05:45] <@Idol> i told to fix the probem
[05:46] <@Idol> i still have my nodes
[05:46] <@Idol> 100k
[05:46] <@Idol> you think i sold?
[05:46] <@virtuallann> look man im sorry im not out to hurt people
[05:46] <@Idol> you want my addys?
[05:46] <@Idol> plz take it dn
[05:47] <@virtuallann> whats right is right and whats wrong is wrong
[05:48] <@majika> WTF. is going on
[05:48] <@red5standingby> ppl in caishen are asking if its fud, who is this guy that posted. shit storm incoming, but no one can sell as no buys.
[05:50] <@majika> who is causing FUD
[05:50] <@majika> in caishen
[05:50] <@red5standingby> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=513613.3040
[05:50] <@red5standingby> read
[05:50] <@majika> yea im reading it now red
[05:50] <@majika> kk brb
[05:52] <@majika> virtuallann wtf you make that ann for
[05:53] <@virtuallann> because im tired of the deception and stonewalling thats going on
[05:53] <@virtuallann> its all in there
[05:53] <@majika> man you need to chew on a leamon or some shit.. even if a coin is going to tank just STUF and sell
[05:53] <@virtuallann> well not all just what i decided to write
[05:53] <@majika> dont help stir it up
[05:53] <@majika> and you guys seriousl ask why this coin not goin places..
[05:53] <@virtuallann> theres 1/3 of public coins that dont have a fucking clue they are being lied to about the PSP
[05:54] <@majika> SO FUCKIN WHAT
[05:54] <@virtuallann> fuck them right? who cares if they get shafted right?
[05:54] <@majika> I LIE EVERY DAY
[05:54] <@majika> no
[05:54] <@virtuallann> good attitude
[05:54] <@majika> but from a foundation "member" you should know betyter if morel getting in way take up being a fuckin preast
[05:55] <@majika> This is all a fricking joke man..
[05:55] <@virtuallann> i see that ur not interested in what happens to other peoples invesments just ur own
[05:55] <@virtuallann> i took a hit cuz im tired of seeing shit all from leadership
[05:56] <@majika> wtf are you on about .. you not know fok all about me or what i do or dont hold so dont start to clim pon yr high horse with me pal
[05:56] <@majika> Im pissed also
[05:56] <@virtuallann> obviously
[05:56] <@majika> you dont see me go focking cry in public no?
[05:56] <@virtuallann> iv been pissed for a week
[05:56] <@virtuallann> waiting and waiting
[05:56] <@virtuallann> and waiting
[05:56] <@virtuallann> for nothing
[05:56] <@majika> fock you should meet my wife that is the definition of pissed !!!!
[05:57] <@majika> anyway.. not smart move imho
[05:57] <@majika> leave it there..
[05:57] <@red5standingby> we all have. but we have been trying to pull together what we can to help.
[05:57] <@virtuallann> i know u have red
[05:57] <@virtuallann> u guys have been workhorses trying to save this and getting no help from the people in charge
[05:58] <@majika> I had considered giving 24 hrs notice (or even 1 hr) in the Foundation channel of what I was going to do here. I decided against it for a couple of reasons:
[05:58] <@majika> 1. This would allow them to PR spin what I was going to say before I said it
[05:58] <@majika> 2. It would allow them advance notice to exit the coin if they chose too(not fair they have advanced warning over the general public) or just manipulate the market in some other way(which may still happen).
[05:58] <@majika> So leave then?

[05:58] <@majika> or i kick you make it easier ?
[05:58] <@majika> save face say majika got pissed and bootedd you
[05:59] <@virtuallann> thats up to you. i expected as much