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  Channel ID:      -61821697
  Channel Name:    Private Chat (alone)
  Listener:        Djinni Vokan
  Session started: 2014.07.22 17:55:25
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[ 2014.07.22 17:55:49 ] Djinni Vokan > 500 billion isk is a terrible amount of sum of money and is probably a lie. When that is said, let me know what you have in mind.
[ 2014.07.22 17:56:04 ] Djinni Vokan > And obviously this is not my main account but if there's money to earned and shit to be shot, im all ears
[ 2014.07.22 17:56:16 ] DeepTime Traveler > I greet you.
[ 2014.07.22 17:56:24 ] DeepTime Traveler > There is.
[ 2014.07.22 17:56:37 ] DeepTime Traveler > I am in the industry of drug manufacturing and distribution.
[ 2014.07.22 17:56:40 ] Djinni Vokan > Let me know exactly what you're looking for.
[ 2014.07.22 17:56:45 ] DeepTime Traveler > I can explain it to you if you would.
[ 2014.07.22 17:56:52 ] DeepTime Traveler > Let me know a little more about your corp and I will tell you more.
[ 2014.07.22 17:57:19 ] Djinni Vokan > Well, we're a bunch of guys 25-30 who played the game for years.
[ 2014.07.22 17:57:27 ] Djinni Vokan > We've been pirates forever.
[ 2014.07.22 17:57:35 ] DeepTime Traveler > Good. I need pirates.
[ 2014.07.22 17:57:43 ] DeepTime Traveler > We have the same mindsets and similar goals.
[ 2014.07.22 17:58:01 ] Djinni Vokan > We do alot of merc work and do some contracting when there's money to be earned and fun things to be done.
[ 2014.07.22 17:58:38 ] DeepTime Traveler > Okay let me explain to you a little bit about how my operation works.
[ 2014.07.22 17:58:41 ] DeepTime Traveler > Do you guys have pos?
[ 2014.07.22 17:59:03 ] Djinni Vokan > If it is needed it can easily be arranged.
[ 2014.07.22 17:59:21 ] Djinni Vokan > We dont really live anywhere naturally (as you can imagine)
[ 2014.07.22 17:59:31 ] DeepTime Traveler > HAHAAHAH I AM SO GLAD TO HEAR THAT
[ 2014.07.22 17:59:45 ] DeepTime Traveler > Okay let me explain to you a little bit about my operations.
[ 2014.07.22 17:59:58 ] DeepTime Traveler > I am in the industry of drug manufacturing and distribution
[ 2014.07.22 18:00:18 ] Djinni Vokan > We have previous experience with both.
[ 2014.07.22 18:00:27 ] DeepTime Traveler > But I would like to let you know right now my methods are a little bit wild, because it would be impossible if they weren't.
[ 2014.07.22 18:00:46 ] DeepTime Traveler > All I am saying is that there will be a lot of pvp battles if you want them
[ 2014.07.22 18:00:49 ] Djinni Vokan > Considering the numbers you're throwing around I can easily imagine it.
[ 2014.07.22 18:01:00 ] DeepTime Traveler > Okay so here is how it works
[ 2014.07.22 18:01:14 ] DeepTime Traveler > Every day
[ 2014.07.22 18:01:20 ] DeepTime Traveler > thousands and thousands of cans of drugs
[ 2014.07.22 18:01:26 ] DeepTime Traveler > are dropped off right in front of your stations
[ 2014.07.22 18:01:36 ] DeepTime Traveler > they just accumulate
[ 2014.07.22 18:01:41 ] DeepTime Traveler > just people coming in and out all day
[ 2014.07.22 18:01:43 ] DeepTime Traveler > dropping off cans
[ 2014.07.22 18:01:57 ] DeepTime Traveler > so these cans start to accumulate
[ 2014.07.22 18:02:36 ] DeepTime Traveler > and it tends to bring in some small under 20 men wars etc
[ 2014.07.22 18:02:57 ] DeepTime Traveler > they pick drugs here and there but they can never clean it becausae theres just too many
[ 2014.07.22 18:03:08 ] DeepTime Traveler > so for example a group of 5 discovers our cans
[ 2014.07.22 18:03:11 ] DeepTime Traveler > they start collecting
[ 2014.07.22 18:03:16 ] DeepTime Traveler > and down the line other people find it
[ 2014.07.22 18:03:19 ] DeepTime Traveler > and start collecting
[ 2014.07.22 18:03:32 ] DeepTime Traveler > and people begin to settle war on the resources throughout the day
[ 2014.07.22 18:03:53 ] DeepTime Traveler > meanwhile cans are just dropping them off
[ 2014.07.22 18:04:11 ] DeepTime Traveler > we have about 300-400 salvages
[ 2014.07.22 18:04:14 ] DeepTime Traveler > just lying in front of base
[ 2014.07.22 18:04:16 ] DeepTime Traveler > every day
[ 2014.07.22 18:04:38 ] DeepTime Traveler > at the end of the day we subcontract larger armies on different gates
[ 2014.07.22 18:04:47 ] DeepTime Traveler > like 60+ armies
[ 2014.07.22 18:04:53 ] DeepTime Traveler > collect the drugs
[ 2014.07.22 18:04:59 ] DeepTime Traveler > etc
[ 2014.07.22 18:05:07 ] DeepTime Traveler > now we have the drugs collected and more drugs are coming in
[ 2014.07.22 18:05:13 ] Djinni Vokan > Yeah I think I can imagine it.
[ 2014.07.22 18:05:16 ] Djinni Vokan > It sounds sort of wild
[ 2014.07.22 18:05:21 ] DeepTime Traveler > dont forget we are also selling these drugs
[ 2014.07.22 18:05:25 ] DeepTime Traveler > to third parties
[ 2014.07.22 18:05:30 ] DeepTime Traveler > we trade with them
[ 2014.07.22 18:05:45 ] DeepTime Traveler > they also provide seed funding and round a's b's etc
[ 2014.07.22 18:05:58 ] DeepTime Traveler > the idea behind them is to build a large trust with them
[ 2014.07.22 18:06:32 ] DeepTime Traveler > have them rely on you and then cripple them
[ 2014.07.22 18:07:01 ] DeepTime Traveler > thats usually 20 tril isk deal or so
[ 2014.07.22 18:07:29 ] DeepTime Traveler > 4-5 months return on interest all  now is good enough for a gank
[ 2014.07.22 18:07:43 ] DeepTime Traveler > any questions?
[ 2014.07.22 18:08:05 ] Djinni Vokan > No I thing I can wrap my head around it.
[ 2014.07.22 18:08:15 ] DeepTime Traveler > Okay
[ 2014.07.22 18:08:21 ] Djinni Vokan > Its basically like .. well,
[ 2014.07.22 18:08:26 ] DeepTime Traveler > So I am in the management of all of this.
[ 2014.07.22 18:08:30 ] Djinni Vokan > removing the logistics after a certain period of time
[ 2014.07.22 18:08:42 ] DeepTime Traveler > What do you mean?
[ 2014.07.22 18:09:17 ] Djinni Vokan > Then I misunderstood the purpose, sorry. Exactly where do we fit in here?
[ 2014.07.22 18:09:30 ] DeepTime Traveler > Cleanup crew
[ 2014.07.22 18:10:09 ] DeepTime Traveler > im basically giving you bait
[ 2014.07.22 18:10:19 ] DeepTime Traveler > and i want you to catch some fish
[ 2014.07.22 18:10:20 ] Djinni Vokan > Ahh right.
[ 2014.07.22 18:10:28 ] Djinni Vokan > That was the 2nd place I imagine where we fit in.
[ 2014.07.22 18:11:11 ] DeepTime Traveler > my operation is pretty solid
[ 2014.07.22 18:11:34 ] DeepTime Traveler > I could have them drop it off in base but its more profitable when you leave them
[ 2014.07.22 18:12:10 ] DeepTime Traveler > Want to see one of my operations?
[ 2014.07.22 18:12:47 ] Djinni Vokan > I need to speak with some of the guys
[ 2014.07.22 18:12:58 ] DeepTime Traveler > You should atleast see what I am doing
[ 2014.07.22 18:13:06 ] Djinni Vokan > Yeah and I will be glad to do so
[ 2014.07.22 18:13:12 ] Djinni Vokan > I just need to speak with a couple of guys first
[ 2014.07.22 18:13:14 ] DeepTime Traveler > want me to youtube it
[ 2014.07.22 18:13:17 ] Djinni Vokan > Yes
[ 2014.07.22 18:13:19 ] Djinni Vokan > send me link
[ 2014.07.22 18:13:21 ] DeepTime Traveler > ok
[ 2014.07.22 18:14:14 ] DeepTime Traveler > Like don't worry about fighting too much.
[ 2014.07.22 18:14:18 ] DeepTime Traveler > People don't really attack.
[ 2014.07.22 18:14:26 ] DeepTime Traveler > They just want to collect the drugs but its hard for them
[ 2014.07.22 18:14:58 ] DeepTime Traveler > and then other people come
[ 2014.07.22 18:15:13 ] DeepTime Traveler > they dont want to fight but theyre scared of eachother
[ 2014.07.22 18:15:31 ] DeepTime Traveler > so they blow eachother up .. lose some ships etc
[ 2014.07.22 18:15:36 ] DeepTime Traveler > next people come in
[ 2014.07.22 18:17:21 ] Djinni Vokan > I have to admit
[ 2014.07.22 18:17:24 ] Djinni Vokan > it sounds fucking hilarious
[ 2014.07.22 18:17:52 ] DeepTime Traveler > its not as hard as it looks
[ 2014.07.22 18:18:08 ] DeepTime Traveler > I preform a lot of transactions
[ 2014.07.22 18:18:33 ] DeepTime Traveler > 4 trillion dollars goes through my hands to make 1 trillion
[ 2014.07.22 18:18:35 ] DeepTime Traveler > so you know
[ 2014.07.22 18:19:21 ] Djinni Vokan > yup
[ 2014.07.22 18:20:06 ] DeepTime Traveler > i wouldnt worry about corp thefts so much either because everything is sold quickly
[ 2014.07.22 18:20:22 ] DeepTime Traveler > plus your pretty much supplied with what you need
[ 2014.07.22 18:20:46 ] DeepTime Traveler > if they play 1012 hours a day plex them etc
[ 2014.07.22 18:21:02 ] DeepTime Traveler > i play 10-16 hours a day 6 days a week
[ 2014.07.22 18:21:33 ] DeepTime Traveler > its a job
[ 2014.07.22 18:22:16 ] DeepTime Traveler > 500 billion isnt a lot though
[ 2014.07.22 18:22:22 ] DeepTime Traveler > you will find that out pretty quickly
[ 2014.07.22 18:22:37 ] DeepTime Traveler > cant even buy a titan for that
[ 2014.07.22 18:23:20 ] Djinni Vokan > well im not too interested in cash. I made 40 billion in my first two months in the game.
[ 2014.07.22 18:23:31 ] DeepTime Traveler > nb
[ 2014.07.22 18:23:33 ] DeepTime Traveler > howd u do that
[ 2014.07.22 18:23:59 ] DeepTime Traveler > took me 4-5 years to figure out this method
[ 2014.07.22 18:24:24 ] DeepTime Traveler > ive hard this game since opening day so you know
[ 2014.07.22 18:24:31 ] Djinni Vokan > I missioned my first 50, did some station trading up to about 500
[ 2014.07.22 18:24:38 ] Djinni Vokan > and then started doing character flipping
[ 2014.07.22 18:25:25 ] DeepTime Traveler > cool
[ 2014.07.22 18:25:47 ] DeepTime Traveler > i just manufacturer and distribute drugs
[ 2014.07.22 18:25:57 ] DeepTime Traveler > started as a miner though lol
[ 2014.07.22 18:26:06 ] DeepTime Traveler > it wouldnt work with miner stuff
[ 2014.07.22 18:26:11 ] DeepTime Traveler > it has to be drugs
[ 2014.07.22 18:26:20 ] DeepTime Traveler > because they cant go to high sec with them
[ 2014.07.22 18:26:36 ] DeepTime Traveler > i mean you can
[ 2014.07.22 18:26:42 ] DeepTime Traveler > if you set up specifically for it
[ 2014.07.22 18:26:56 ] DeepTime Traveler > but who would want a cargo full of drugs
[ 2014.07.22 18:27:02 ] Djinni Vokan > I dont have the patience to work with anything besides what I do so.
[ 2014.07.22 18:27:20 ] DeepTime Traveler > well i am not asking anything of you
[ 2014.07.22 18:27:38 ] DeepTime Traveler > all i am asking is to let me drop thousands of cargo containers in your base
[ 2014.07.22 18:27:46 ] DeepTime Traveler > and clean it up every day before server goes down
[ 2014.07.22 18:28:22 ] Djinni Vokan > That doesnt sound too hard.
[ 2014.07.22 18:29:15 ] Djinni Vokan > You working on the link?
[ 2014.07.22 18:29:29 ] DeepTime Traveler > goin to an operation atm
[ 2014.07.22 18:29:39 ] DeepTime Traveler > its in deep space
[ 2014.07.22 18:30:16 ] Djinni Vokan > ok, ill wait.
[ 2014.07.22 18:31:08 ] DeepTime Traveler > let me just sit in stealth so i can get a good recording for you its funny
[ 2014.07.22 18:31:35 ] Djinni Vokan > Do you have any specifics on how many people you think should be able to do the job?
[ 2014.07.22 18:31:51 ] Djinni Vokan > I got some very good friends who are also looking for work over a very long time if needed.
[ 2014.07.22 18:32:03 ] DeepTime Traveler > whatever you can budget for
[ 2014.07.22 18:32:36 ] DeepTime Traveler > Its more of just sitting up in a diff sector of space for me
[ 2014.07.22 18:33:02 ] DeepTime Traveler > itll take 2-3 weeks to get hot though
[ 2014.07.22 18:33:03 ] Djinni Vokan > Well seeing as youre the client it comes down to your payment, really. I can come with 5 or 200 people if needed. All depends on what is needed. Also on what shiptypes you think is needed as we can usually escalate within a very very short timespan.
[ 2014.07.22 18:33:15 ] DeepTime Traveler > Well here is what you should know
[ 2014.07.22 18:33:28 ] DeepTime Traveler > This will only last about 6-7 months
[ 2014.07.22 18:33:35 ] DeepTime Traveler > after that most people get too scared to take the bait
[ 2014.07.22 18:33:48 ] DeepTime Traveler > so i am always looking for new place
[ 2014.07.22 18:33:51 ] DeepTime Traveler > thats why pirates are good
[ 2014.07.22 18:34:00 ] DeepTime Traveler > most corps i fund just settle down
[ 2014.07.22 18:34:02 ] DeepTime Traveler > and thats okay
[ 2014.07.22 18:34:10 ] DeepTime Traveler > some go bankrupt
[ 2014.07.22 18:34:26 ] Djinni Vokan > At some point your name gets affiliated with a bunch of dudes names too. (like mine) so the name gets known to the people coming in.
[ 2014.07.22 18:34:28 ] DeepTime Traveler > if you are looking for something long term then you have to move with
[ 2014.07.22 18:35:01 ] Djinni Vokan > Where theres money and action thats where we are.
[ 2014.07.22 18:35:24 ] DeepTime Traveler > money yes
[ 2014.07.22 18:35:31 ] DeepTime Traveler > action only at the start
[ 2014.07.22 18:35:37 ] DeepTime Traveler > then it becomes streamlined action
[ 2014.07.22 18:35:52 ] DeepTime Traveler > people making the wrong jumps etc
[ 2014.07.22 18:36:15 ] DeepTime Traveler > corps will usually attempt 3 to 4 times before they quit
[ 2014.07.22 18:36:42 ] DeepTime Traveler > people think because they have titans they have control
[ 2014.07.22 18:36:42 ] DeepTime Traveler > its funny
[ 2014.07.22 18:37:25 ] Djinni Vokan > Well if you ask me titans are good for one thing.
[ 2014.07.22 18:37:29 ] Djinni Vokan > actually two
[ 2014.07.22 18:37:32 ] Djinni Vokan > bridging
[ 2014.07.22 18:37:43 ] Djinni Vokan > and being bumped out of POSes
[ 2014.07.22 18:38:20 ] DeepTime Traveler > its not usually an issue
[ 2014.07.22 18:38:25 ] DeepTime Traveler > because before they battle for the cans
[ 2014.07.22 18:38:29 ] DeepTime Traveler > corps battle against themselves
[ 2014.07.22 18:38:42 ] DeepTime Traveler > to battle for the drugs
[ 2014.07.22 18:39:57 ] Djinni Vokan > sorry, was just getting a drink
[ 2014.07.22 18:41:03 ] Djinni Vokan > Well I look forward to watching your video.
[ 2014.07.22 18:42:06 ] Djinni Vokan > Question
[ 2014.07.22 18:42:10 ] Djinni Vokan > Are you referring to thunderdoming?
[ 2014.07.22 18:42:31 ] DeepTime Traveler > no
[ 2014.07.22 18:42:32 ] Djinni Vokan > nah nvm
[ 2014.07.22 18:42:35 ] Djinni Vokan > im being an idiot
[ 2014.07.22 18:47:03 ] DeepTime Traveler > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTQHv0FrgrE
[ 2014.07.22 18:47:33 ] Djinni Vokan > second
[ 2014.07.22 18:47:43 ] DeepTime Traveler > this is one of our bigger ones
[ 2014.07.22 18:52:08 ] Djinni Vokan > Alright, well im intrigued.
[ 2014.07.22 18:52:16 ] Djinni Vokan > We will set up a station.
[ 2014.07.22 18:52:22 ] Djinni Vokan > But there will be a price for doing so.
[ 2014.07.22 18:53:46 ] Djinni Vokan > I need to pay a bunch of dudes off and grease some palms.
[ 2014.07.22 18:54:15 ] DeepTime Traveler > pay them off for what
[ 2014.07.22 18:54:18 ] DeepTime Traveler > ill bring forces
[ 2014.07.22 18:56:13 ] Djinni Vokan > Well were not exactly too happy about stations as people dont like to be stationed the same place for too long
[ 2014.07.22 18:56:22 ] Djinni Vokan > so the guys will want some sort of .. well
[ 2014.07.22 18:56:34 ] DeepTime Traveler > then dont make a station
[ 2014.07.22 18:57:34 ] Djinni Vokan > give me a moment
[ 2014.07.22 18:58:03 ] Djinni Vokan > one of partners is logging on.
[ 2014.07.22 18:59:01 ] Ian Praetorius > o/
[ 2014.07.22 18:59:30 ] Djinni Vokan > Ian is a good friend of mine
[ 2014.07.22 18:59:42 ] Ian Praetorius > Heyo. I assume this is the entrepeneur you mentioned?
[ 2014.07.22 18:59:42 ] Djinni Vokan > And he represents a bunch of dudes with the same itnerests as me
[ 2014.07.22 18:59:45 ] Djinni Vokan > y
[ 2014.07.22 19:00:10 ] Ian Praetorius > I understand you have a bit of a plan, Mr. Vokan?
[ 2014.07.22 19:00:48 ] Djinni Vokan > Well im not the one with the plan
[ 2014.07.22 19:00:52 ] Djinni Vokan > DeepTime Traveler is.
[ 2014.07.22 19:00:57 ] Djinni Vokan > Do you mind giving Ian a short rundown?
[ 2014.07.22 19:03:10 ] Ian Praetorius > Mr. Traveler?