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- kevinmalone69 - 28 games (5 incomplete), 13 with Zwink, 11 with Mollywop (24 games played with Zwink)
- Zwink - 58 games (12 incomplete), 13 with kevinmalone69 (4 wins together, 6 wins over opponent, 1 mutual loss, 2 incomplete).
- Kevin + Zwink lose together
- https://epicmafia.com/game/4561269 Zwinks leader and kevin is blue. Zwink is hipfired by illu d2 and asks who shot her, it was mycat(as told by fascination) and then kevins first read of the day is how mycat is playing "exactly like last game" and if he gets shot "he wants mycat lynched" which is really funny that his first scumread is the conf scum from GY vision. Kevin lost this for Zwink because he couldn't sway town, but he did get mycat lynched the day before.
- * If you review game https://epicmafia.com/game/4561247/review youll see that mycathatesyou did nothing to help the game progress at all which i stated was scummy in the pregame you linked ... then mycat did the exact same thing in this game where she did nothing to really progress the game besides standard filler which since i pointed it out in pregame, kevin followed through thinking it was a legit read on mycat, in which she was correct. Kevin also goes on to fos on Drake for the exact same reason saying that Drake does nothing helpful either*
- Kevin + Zwink win together
- https://epicmafia.com/game/4561101 Zwinks blue and Kevinmalone is GS. He guns bleeder and then asks for xDrake to be shot, then he leads on Sonia. He guns Zwink in LYLO and town wins.
- *So, this one is basically you saying because kevin gunned me in lylo ... which if you review any game kevin OR I play with any guns ... we both almost always gun someone in lylo (see here https://epicmafia.com/game/4573370), because it creates a clear instead of a 3 way no clear. It just so happens that kevin gunned me here because she tr me for my actions throughout the game*
- https://epicmafia.com/game/4561137 Zwink bleeder, Kevin blue. Maf n1s sonia who is GS. Zwink shoots xDrake who is blue and then asks the entire table if they all FoS kevin. After they all say yes, she says that logically, kevin "must be town" wtf not really zwink. Then she said that they basically cleared kevin. Ends in a grs but the point stands that she used a dumb reason to tr him.
- *This one was my own logic ... if everyone in a table is pushing fos' on an "easy lynch" such as kevin in this table since she was playing with more experienced players then logically its just that ... someone being pushed on as an easy lynch as town by mafia. It's not a dumb reason and its not the first time I've used that in a game.*
- https://epicmafia.com/game/4561156 Zwink GS kevin bleeder. Maf n1s a blue and hipfires a blue. Maf ccs GS aka Zwink and then Kevin hipfires the cc with zero issue after she tells Kevin to shoot him. Zwink wins.
- *In this game yeah she shot my cc pretty quickly, but review most my games ... most people always shoot my cc over me and this win was due to xsonia screwing up and leaving herself alive with all clears. So not much you can really go on here.*
- https://epicmafia.com/game/4561247 Zwink is GS and kevin is blue. Maf n1s the leader and then illu shoots a blue. Zwink leads a shot on someone but the bleeder doesn't listen, then she hard leads on xDrake and doesn't respond to her thoughts on kevin nor the reads that were said about kevin(that he or mycat were mafia) then she gunned him in lylo and they won.
- *Again, I gun 99% of the time in lylo to create a clear. Just because i can tr and sr someone doesnt mean its cheating. Also, Xdrake said two lines that day 04:56 xDrake . and 06:55 xDrake lynch cat orkevin tbh ... which isnt me IGNORING his reads when i had already fosd him before that because if you cant tell by now i tend to fos players that are normally extremely active and then go silent or non productive in games and then i gunned kevin because mycat is easy to read (see first linked game you posted where two games are linked of mycat doing nothing but filler as mafia) in which mycat did nothing productive in this game besides joke about ccing me irl*
- https://epicmafia.com/game/4563909 Zwink is GS and kevin is blue. Illu shoots leader and she forces DoctorX the bleeder to sheep her reads and make sure she leads the shot even though he was a few seconds away from shooting his own reads. She then says to shoot in redeem and cataract, and that she can read kevin as the day goes on so shes "sorting through her townreads". She never outs a TR on kevin in that day, she even says herself it requires more time in the game for her to correctly read him and yet she does end up gunning him? Zwink finds mafia in the GY and then Kevin shoots John later on so town wins.
- *Im going to go ahead and post a few games of people doing the same as I do which you call "forcing people to sheep/everyone just sheeps zwink" Here are a few of Maths games in which he flat out says tr me here and do this and its auto, and people do exactly that. https://epicmafia.com/game/4576811 https://epicmafia.com/game/4576664 https://epicmafia.com/game/4576617. In almost every game he plays he does this and people most the time sheep him for it. No different from what I do. Again, I always gun in lylo to create a clear ... and i even asked if i gunned mafia when day flipped,13:23 Zwink kevinmalone69 is going to get this wrong.14:13 Zwink damn kevinmalone69 is going to get panicky because johnreid tunneling her 14:16 Zwink and shes going to tr johnreid. Kevin went on to fos Froce until John just kept pushing on her over and over and over fosing her to the point she shot him for it. That was on John for the tunnel.*
- https://epicmafia.com/game/4569781 Zwink(mollywop) is blue and kevin is blue. GS funguns actress and then Zwink tries to make the game a win regardless of that. Never scumreads kevin, just pushes on fappy. The game broke but the point stands that she never considered kevin to be mafia.
- *I actually pushed on no one in that game except flappy Mollywop youre the most active out of the last three blues 10:11 Mollywop and that shot 10:14 Mollywop was wicked fast. I explained in game that i figured the most active person there was probaby who hipfires (talks most ... most antsy with a gun) Everyone agreed with it as well. I defended both Kevin and Fam on this one saying how relaxed they both were, not just kevin.*
- Kevin + Zwink - different teams
- https://epicmafia.com/game/4563952 Zwink is actress and Kevin is leader. For some reason even though in the previous games zwink uses people killing outside of bleeder n1 to clear herself, she does it this game. It's honestly weird that she refers to it as a bad strategy until Kevin flips PR and she's scum. Anyway, she did a 50/50 between redeem and kevin and chose kevin obviously. Zwink wins this but it doesn't matter much besides the d1/n1 stuff.
- *Games where i hit outside of bleeder n1 https://epicmafia.com/game/4573393 https://epicmafia.com/game/4556846/review https://epicmafia.com/game/4569989/review https://epicmafia.com/game/4559649/review (so, yes sometimes i do yolo outside of bleeders) And kevin and redeem ended up both being prs, so my pr reads from day one were correct which was the quiet ones in d1 are usually pr. Which shows I pr hunted and didnt just go "Kevin is pr kill her." It was either or in both of them. My partner even agreed.*
- Times Zwink or Kevin FoSes the other incorrectly: 0
- Times Zwink or Kevin ML on each other: 0
- Times Kevin FoSes Zwink at all: 0
- becomeclear - 52 games (12 incomplete), 24 with Zwink/Mollywop combined, [5 played with kevinmalone69]
- 8 wins together, 4 losses together, 1 win over Zwink, 7 losses to Zwink, 4 incomplete.
- *SHOULD I EVEN RESPOND TO THESE BECAUSE YOU SAID YOURSELF YOU FELT NOTHING WAS GOING ON HERE BETWEEN BECOME AND I ... which btw you can see the game where become and I actually met for the first time which shows we had no knowledge of who eachother were before hand.
- Zwink + becomeclear win together
- https://epicmafia.com/game/4570030 - Molly, clear and kevin flip town. MARCOVANBASTEN gets himself lynched D1 in an obvious troll and does not fire his gun at all as illu. Becomeclear outs solid townread on Zwink and kevin and pushes for a shot outside of them. Game was easy.
- *Marco pushed a lynch on me d1 and I pushed back, in which he had already nkd his gun so he got lynched without shooting ... the next day it was all based on who pushed on me d1, so i pushed to lead on the two people who pushed on me d1.*
- https://epicmafia.com/game/4573119 - zwink bleeder, becomeclear is blue. illu hipfires on d1, d3x outs maf read on actress d1 and shoots the same read the following day. braixen was also in this game and they have a friendly chat in pre-game. the only thing to note is the amount of games that zwink plays with her friends who would commonly play in her favour.
- *Theres nothing to say to this one because d3x made his read on the second scum at a time when i had no possible knowledge of who mafia is.*
- Zwink + becomeclear lose together
- Zwink wins over becomeclear
- https://epicmafia.com/game/4573134 - zwink actress, d3x blue, becomeclear bleeder, braixen blue (3 friends). zwink talks about her niece at day start d2, no one foses her, d3x outs town read on her for 'being aggressive' which is pretty baseless because she hardly pushes anything. the 3 way zwink basically goes the whole day without having anyone push on her. d3x playing in favour, he outs very mild suspicion of her but never pushes an agenda against her whatsoever.
- *Yeah i talked about how i had to brb because of my niece, which is true and non relevant to this other than the fact that most the game was talked about my niece by everyone. His tr on for being aggressive was clearly due to the fact that hardly any of the other players in the game were doing anything at all. And cloaked also tr me and fosd d3x ... so it ended up where i had hammer because they fosd eachother.
- becomeclear wins over Zwink
- https://epicmafia.com/game/4569989 - molly illu, becomeclear blue. marcovanbasten is bleeder but behaves completely differently to when he threw as illu. molly's partner throws and gets himself shot. becomeclear foses the table except for molly. they do not react with each other. molly loses because she barely tries, but she was on an alt. Nothing particularly revealing in this game, but their interactions are pretty evasive and suggest playing in favour of one another.
- *I stated that i was slight afk in this game because i was cooking and trying to play at the same time, so no, i didnt "not try," because im the reason real leader got shot when my partner tried to throw.*
- https://epicmafia.com/game/4574949 - Interestingly, Becomeclear plays with theye on the last day and immediately foses him in a separate game. theye being one of zwink's competitors for the trophy. Timestamp 06:42.
- *I wasnt even in this game so I don't get what it has to do with me lol*
- https://epicmafia.com/game/4573058 - D3X (Zwink's close friend) checks theye N1 on last day but theye is N1'd.
- *D3x's partner led the check on theye AFTER i voted to n1 him. Check the vote order. I nor d3x, in no could influence that.
- ZWINK and SPV:
- LET IT BE KNOWN I DID NOT KNOW THIS WAS D3X UNTIL OWL OUTTED IT IN THE REPORT.
- I spoke to D3x about it, and he said he didnt want anyone at all knowing about that account.
- https://epicmafia.com/game/4559705/review Zwink is town. D2 Zwink wants the leader shot, and they end up shooting leader and killing the leaders CC as well (illusionist). What's interesting about this game is Spv is gs, and guns his townread Zwink. That usually wouldn't be suspicious, however, what was weird was he asked afterwards if Zwink was mafia. Three graveyard members said yes, and that she was slowrolling, one said christ was mafia. A bit later, he says "oh god she's going to misfire" meaning he knew she was town. She shoots right.
- *"meaning he knew she was town," lol, if I hadnt shot yet, then yeah hes going to assume im town ... his uncertainty of my shot shows there was no cheating going on or hed KNOW that I would shoot right. You also say gunning a townread in lylo isnt suspicious but half of this has been about me gunning tr's. Shrugs.*
- https://epicmafia.com/game/4559728/review Zwink shoots Spv d2 as illusionist (he was gs). Evidence for cheating: Spv had not talked at all, and only voted. Illusionist had another person as a villager, and it would be very difficult to POE after that little amount of talking. Evidence against cheating: Zwink mentioned having the actress check, which would be weird if they were rolesharing, since she would know he was gs. Win.
- *See previous games you listed back where i stated usually the quiet ones d1 are prs ... i checked blue, marked bleeder, marked illu partner ... that leaves four aka 50/50 chance of hitting pr ... so i shot the one that was the most quiet throughout d1. Im not sure what this means "Zwink mentioned having the actress check." But I feel youre meaning where i said act on gs any blue flips ill see as blue ... which was my way of covering for my partner if she got shot since she coded she was on blue. Which is what i say in most games where pr is shot, despite my alignment.
- https://epicmafia.com/game/4559850/review Spv is bleeder. Illusionist shoots Zwink d1. The mafia doesn't hit the bleeder, and instead hits a villager. Spv correctly shoots the actress (says it's because he townreads Ladynemesis, and says the other villager becomeclear has been "looking townie" by arguing with the illusionist), and lynches the illusionist. Evidence for cheating: Lady had graveyard vision, and his fos was mainly based on POE, whilst townreading the other w/o saying why. All of this evidence for this game is circumstantial. Win.
- *here tscol was confirmed from d1 ... and when spv shot miles he thought he shot town hence him telling cfc to gun him again that next night. Enough said there.*
- https://epicmafia.com/game/4559869/review Zwink wins. Spv was shot d2, nothing really happened. Evidence for cheating: None. Evidence against cheating: Spv slightly pushes on Zwink, but is mostly pushing on someone else (town). This doesn't look like rolesharing, however it doesn't prove that Spv is/isn't playing in Zwinks favor. Win.
- *No need for a response.*
- https://epicmafia.com/game/4573220/review Illusionist shoots leader, and the bleeder misshoots. After this, the bleeder wants to lead on Zwink, which would result in a town loss, until Spv (who's mafia, Zwink is town) vegges. It's weird that out of 67 games, he's only vegged 3, this being one of them. Evidence for cheating: All Spv had to do was vote Zwink, and he had the game, and was there when the bleeder was leading on her, and still managed to veg somehow. Note: The last time he played with this account was 6 days ago. It looks like he played with the full intent to throw in her win condition. Veg (incomplete).
- *People veg all the time, I have 17 vegges/suis out of 4000 games, so his ratio of games to suis doesnt matter, he clearly wasnt even there most the game, so of course you can say its intentional, but if like you said hes only vegged three times on that account then clearly he doesnt intentionally veg. "all he had to do was vote for her" <<< he was not there to vote, he was afk, and i kicked asap hoping hed veg. Reread the NEXT game https://epicmafia.com/game/4573260 after that where i mocked and made fun of him for vegging.*
- Incomplete games
- https://epicmafia.com/game/4573303 - Cahangir sui's on phone. Nothing here.
- **I read a few more of their games together, and I do not think there is anything between Becomeclear and Zwink beyond meta abuse. They played most of their games on different tables on the last 2 days, so I do not feel as though there was anything intentionally disputable between the 2. It can be argued that their interactions in game are vastly too friendly, and the sheer volume of games they have played together will have been beneficial to each of their runs.**
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