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  1. Floppie:
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  3. That's really about all I have to say. Wow. You take butthurt to a whole new and hilariously creepy level.
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  5. Sincerely,
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  7. Bob
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  9. ps The confusion in your voice earlier today was priceless.
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  13. Theory666:
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  15. I take it to a whole new level? Who're the fucking morons who EXTORTED me in a video game. All I wanted to do was make some cash in the market. but NOOO you had to take advantage of me, by luring me into your fucking corp. AND IT COULD HAVE ENDED THERE. You would have popped my little ship, and i would have gone back to motsu, butthurt and out 500k ISK. But you had to HOLD ME HOSTAGE. You don't have any fucking right to do that. Not in RL, not in EVE, NOWHERE. I LOST ANOTHER CNR TO YOU becuse some a-holes in motsu thought I was YOU. Fuck you and horse you rode in on.
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  19. Floppie:
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  21. And that justifies harassing me in real life?
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  25. Theory666:
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  27. Its not like I threatened you. All of that information is of public record, via your domain name registration. I attempted to talk to you guys ingame, and you refuse to even meet me half way. You mocked me. Like I said, you didn't need to hold me hostage. You don't have any right to do that. Not in game, not in real life. Like I said, it could have ended with me loosing the first ship. You took it there. Not me.
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  31. Floppie:
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  33. No, you took it there. YOU called ME. You're the one who spent a day harassing someone because they did something mean to you in a video game. Do you even comprehend how childish that is?
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  35. What's more, being given roles only cost you a day. All you needed to do was drop roles, wait 24 hours, and leave the corp. YOU chose to buy a new ship and run missions while you were in a hostile corp that is at war with a half-dozen entities. That second loss is entirely your fault.
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  37. The icing on the cake though is that I had absolutely nothing to do with any of this. I didn't recruit you, I didn't accept your application, I didn't give you roles, I didn't shoot you. All I ever did was type words in a chat window, and now you've stooped to real-life harassment.
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  39. I'm only going to say this once: it stops, now. Your little stunt with the pizza is messing with people who aren't me. I don't play childish games, and if you continue down this road I won't have any choice but to involve CCP and the police.
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  43. Theory666:
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  45. Your right, you didn't shoot at me, or anything. But you were a party to it. You encouraged it. You did nothing to stop it. That makes you a party.
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  47. With a corp stasis, I CANT FIGHT BACK. I CANT LEAVE.
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  49. By your standards, I picked you because you were an easier target than morris. Just like you guys do. I read your blog.
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  51. --Another mail--
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  53. Basically, I fought back the only way I could.
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  55. --Yet another mail--
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  57. Psychotic Monk > https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=201765&find=unread
  58. Theory666 > get me out of this corp. now.
  59. Psychotic Monk > Pay me.
  60. Theory666 > we've been over this before.
  61. Psychotic Monk > Then why ask again?
  62. Theory666 > I figured floppie had weighed in.
  63. Psychotic Monk > Yeah. And his opinon remains the same.
  64. Theory666 > That he and I should become phone buddies? :-D
  65. Psychotic Monk > What are you saying you'd do?
  66. Theory666 > nothing. I will not call or attempt to call him again. I was joking.
  67. Theory666 > You have my word, warped as it may be.
  68. Psychotic Monk > So why would we gve you any reprieve?
  69. Theory666 > are you suggesting that because i am not going to do anything more with the information I found, that you still have the upper hand? dude...
  70. Theory666 > once this stasis timer is up im gone
  71. Theory666 > your even more warped than I am.
  72. Psychotic Monk > Possibly.
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  74. --More mail!--
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  76. He told me how he found my info. I already knew this.
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  80. Floppie:
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  82. You think I don't already know that? You're not nearly as clever as you think. I've always known exactly where my real name was connected with this one; I've just never had to worry about some nut-job taking a game too seriously until today. By harassing me and attempting to intimidate my family, you've forced me to take this in a serious direction, so I'm going to follow it through.
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  84. I've played games online since 1996. I've made a lot of enemies with my approach to emergent gameplay. In 17 years, you are the FIRST person to make a serious attempt at intimidating me in person. I say that just so you understand just how abnormal your behavior today has been.
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  86. You're acting like a child. You can't separate reality from fiction and you seem to think that it's justifiable to carry a vendetta from a video game into the real world. To hell with the consequences, a guy in a game laughed when someone he knows did a mean thing, and that makes it okay for you to do whatever you can to get revenge over something stupidly trivial.
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  88. You don't seem to fully understand the consequences of your actions, so I'm going to make it plain: what you have been doing today is illegal. With some assistance from a few companies who are sympathetic to this sort of thing, I could at the very least get a judge to sign a restraining order on you. Now I'm going to go back to letting this all just be a game. I suggest you grow up and do the same. Get your revenge in Eve, or not at all.
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  92. Theory666:
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  94. FINALLY! I'm out of your dumb corp. this means I don't have to speak to you, look at you or anything else. You may not realize this, but when you pop my ship, I can REFIT, I can RETOOL, I can train more skills. I end up safe in a station, where I can go back to carebear shit, or not my choice. I can join another corp. When you hold me hostage, you have more power over me than I have over me. I COULDN"T go back to carebear shit. I never cared about the ships , i just cared about being able to choose my own corp. DO my own thing after you guys humiliated me. Do you understand?
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  96. No man should have more power over me than I have over me.
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  98. Think of me as you will I cant change that.
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  102. Floppie:
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  104. Right. You felt powerless in a video game so you took it out on the only person you could lash out at, someone who wasn't even aware of what had been done to you until it was already done. Not only that, you took it into real life, becoming a creepy stalker and playing gradeschool pranks that have been around since the invention of the telephone and pizza delivery.
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  106. You spent all that time trying to analyze us and why we do what we do..have you considered just how sick a puppy you must be? Because Monk and I would never stoop to such levels. What I find somewhat alarming is that you seem to have no concept of just how wrong your behavior has been. I said before that I play a bad guy on the internet. I wonder just how much of a mask your "good guy" character is.
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  110. Theory666:
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  112. What is the difference between oppression on the internet and oppression in real life? Ask the Egyptians before you answer.
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  114. Like I said, I ASKED both you and monk last night. Your perceived transgression stems from not letting me out when I asked, not allowing monk to pop me.
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  116. Think what you want of me, just remember: I asked nicely first. Multiple times. Begged, you may even say. You knew that, you watched it.
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  120. Floppie:
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  122. You're comparing being stuck in an Eve corp for 24 hours to government censorship? Can your reality POSSIBLY be more warped.
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  124. Your character is far older than mine, yet you seem to be completely ignorant of fundamental game mechanics. Normally I would educate you on just what it is you don't understand, but you've annoyed me so I'm going to all you to wallow in your own incompetence.
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  126. What I think of you that you are STILL trying to justify what you did. You took the outcome of a video game and used it to justify real-life action. Here's a clue: there's no justifying it. You will never, ever be able to convince any rational person that your choice of actions was right, justified, or socially acceptable. You're on your way to being the subject of a 20/20 episode where they talk about the crazy stalker guy on the internet.
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  128. If you thought what you were doing was okay, you wouldn't have tried to hide behind a wall of anonymity. You knew it was wrong, and you did it anyway. And here you sit, trying to tell me I'm a bad person while trying to excuse your own behavior.
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  132. Theory666:
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  134. Yes, it WAS a real life action. So would this have been: If I had hired a corp to wardecc you, that would have cost me ISK, which would have cost me PLEX< which would have cost me money, which would be a real world action, no?
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  136. I am complaining about you not letting me do something which I was entitled to: slink away in shame that I lost a CNR. Both you and monk.
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  138. Also, I doubt its going to go that far. I did not threaten you. I stopped before you asked. At no point did I proceed past that. In fact, I think you never actually ASKED me to stop. Which is what would have been recommended to you if you called your local police department.
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  140. Let me put it in these terms: I WOULD HAVE STOPPED IF YOU ASKED. It does not make it right, I know. But its important for me to know that you understand the simplest of manners: listen and attempt to accomodate someone when they ASK something of you. THAT is what being nice is.
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  144. So in conclusion, the definition of being nice is harassing someone until they ask you to stop, and then stopping.
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