Q&A w/ Henrik Nystrom CEO of Star Vault in #mortalonline

Henrik Nystrom CEO of Star Vault in #mortalonline on Stratics Fri Feb 28 14:58:00 2014

[13:40] * Now talking in #mortalonline
[13:40] * Topic is '4Mortal Online Official IRC '
[13:40] * Set by [LM]Demtri on Sun Nov 03 15:18:08
[13:40] <@HenrikNystrom> we want to go as long as it goes to remain free from any loading screens as possible as you know
[13:40] <[KotO]Meowington> that would bring so much conflict when non keep owner can control land aswell
[13:40] <[TBC]Sarkhan> amen brother
[13:41] <Maymo> so.... your going to go for the loading screen then
[13:41] <@HenrikNystrom> but that means, you need to prepare for a bit more streaming data when entering that area
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[13:41] <@HenrikNystrom> thats not what I said maymo
[13:41] <[TBC]Sarkhan> lol
[13:41] <Maymo> TBH,
[13:41] <[TBC]Sarkhan> he said the exact opposite
[13:41] <tanto> load lag never hurt nobody
[13:41] <[FL]nazgo> so its not loading screen in 1 spot, but its a big nodeline
[13:41] <Maymo> if you are saying that we will lagg the fuck out when going from the one continent to the other
[13:41] <[Quad]Darran> Streaming data as in huge load lag?
[13:41] <@HenrikNystrom> I mean if there is a 100% complain on streaming and that it ruins game play
[13:41] <[Quad]Darran> that may potentially crash players
[13:41] <@HenrikNystrom> then only then we may want to look on loading
[13:41] <Maymo> ppl are just going to sprint over to the other side when in trouble
[13:41] <Maymo> and get away safely
[13:41] <Maymo> while in the lagg
[13:41] <@HenrikNystrom> correct darran
[13:41] <@HenrikNystrom> you know when you load tindrem areas
[13:41] <@HenrikNystrom> yuou notice hicups
[13:41] <[AQ]Frontal> Humanoid, dissappearing weapons, nodeline killing, nodeline loot, terrible laggy UI, lances/spears on MC, Lykiators.
[13:41] <[Quad]Darran> Henrik the huge amounts of loading lagspikes people get now are super annoying already
[13:41] <[AQ]Frontal> HOW
[13:42] <@HenrikNystrom> loading a new continent means a bigger hicup
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[13:42] <Maymo> what darran said
[13:42] <Maymo> I get retarded lagg spikes
[13:42] <@HenrikNystrom> yes, but we can narrow this down to a small location
[13:42] <[Quad]Darran> MO is full of lagspikes
[13:42] <tanto> load could happen in the middle of the ocean
[13:42] <@HenrikNystrom> in which is a passing trhrough
[13:42] <[KotO]Soror> is shield bug fix in next patch?
[13:42] <Maymo> from 62 fps down to 10s and back up
[13:42] <@HenrikNystrom> There is also a tcp link issue in old build that will be removed in new engine
[13:42] <@HenrikNystrom> which gives hicups
[13:42] <Maymo> for 1 second
[13:42] <@HenrikNystrom> yep
[13:42] <[Quad]Darran> I have constant lagspikes
[13:42] <[AQ]Frontal> Humanoid, dissappearing weapons, nodeline killing, nodeline loot, terrible laggy UI, lances/spears on MC, Lykiators.
[13:42] <[AQ]Frontal> Humanoid, dissappearing weapons, nodeline killing, nodeline loot, terrible laggy UI, lances/spears on MC, Lykiators.
[13:43] <[FATE]Pope_Atha> then we roam on MC and 1shot ppl YEAAYYY
[13:43] <Maymo> Blocking
[13:43] <Maymo> Blocking
[13:43] <[Quad]Darran> PvP balance overall, it has been overlooked for way too long
[13:43] <[AQ]Frontal> Humanoid, dissappearing weapons, nodeline killing, nodeline loot, terrible laggy UI, lances/spears on MC, Lykiators, blocking, counters
[13:43] <[Quad]Darran> We have stuff that can be compared to old boomsticks that 1 shot people, and they are not being fixed
[13:43] <@HenrikNystrom> pvp balance is not one session, you may have noticed its an on going process that goes in every patch
[13:44] <[Quad]Darran> Henrik but HUGE issues haven't been touched for months
[13:44] <Maymo> Henrik, in the video i sent you, you can see the absurd laggspikes
[13:44] <Maymo> caused by people loading in
[13:44] <[AQ]Frontal> Humanoid, dissappearing weapons, nodeline killing, nodeline loot, terrible laggy UI, lances/spears on MC, Lykiators, blocking, counters
[13:44] <Maymo> and as you can see im running at 62 fps and i just keep spiking down
[13:44] <@HenrikNystrom> if we havnt patched for months its due to the engine work we are doing
[13:44] <Maymo> so its not my PC
[13:44] <tanto> how high do i need creature control if i want to ride high lvl horses?
[13:44] <[TBC]Sarkhan> will people not in guilds be able to use TC? I remember reading that somewhere
[13:44] <[Quad]Darran> It's a different thing to say we balancing minor stuff over a couple of months, but there are HUGE issues that are not being touched
[13:44] <[TBC]Sarkhan> like if they share a house
[13:44] <[Quad]Darran> not just minor balance stuff
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[13:44] <@HenrikNystrom> Maymo you can get 80fps by turning of smooth frame rate
[13:44] <@HenrikNystrom> and vert sync
[13:44] <Maymo> i know
[13:44] <Maymo> that wount help
[13:44] <[AQ]Ironcast> Humanoid, dissappearing weapons, nodeline killing, nodeline loot, terrible laggy UI, lances/spears on MC, Lykiators, blocking, counters
[13:45] <Maymo> i keep getting spikes down to 5 fps
[13:45] <@HenrikNystrom> yeah, the lag you refer to is different
[13:45] <Maymo> and back up to 62
[13:45] <Maymo> for milliseconds
[13:45] <@HenrikNystrom> And there is a big chanse thats solved in the new engine
[13:45] <Sal> Henrik why is it when you turn off the sun yuu get alot more fps
[13:45] <Maymo> just watch the video henrik
[13:45] <Sal> and better game play in general
[13:45] <[FL]nazgo> for me the game is running good fps wise even in massive sieges
[13:45] <Maymo> never had these issues 3 months ago either
[13:45] <[FATE]Pope_Atha> turn of the sun?
[13:45] <[FL]nazgo> like in the 7L keep siege, I had normal FPS, but the problem then became "humanoids" all enemies were humanoids
[13:46] <Maymo> lol
[13:46] <[Quad]Darran> yea
[13:46] <Maymo> in the 7L keep siege several of us had 5 fps
[13:46] <[Quad]Darran> But 90% of the groups had like 20fps
[13:46] <[Quad]Darran> yea
[13:46] <[Quad]Darran> was a slideshow
[13:46] <@HenrikNystrom> that video showss the tcp link bug, which is solved in engine
[13:46] <tanto> hey
[13:46] <[AQ]Frontal> Humanoid, dissappearing weapons, nodeline killing, nodeline loot, terrible laggy UI, lances/spears on MC, Lykiators, blocking, counters
[13:46] <[AQ]Ironcast> Humanoid, dissappearing weapons, nodeline killing, nodeline loot, terrible laggy UI, lances/spears on MC, Lykiators, blocking, counters
[13:46] <tanto> how high do i need creature control
[13:46] <[FL]nazgo> for what?
[13:46] <@HenrikNystrom> AQ please..
[13:46] <Maymo> nice
[13:46] <[Quad]Darran> Frontal stop spamming or he will never answer those
[13:46] <tanto> some guy have me a lvl 98 horse
[13:46] <Maymo> Yay, they added my problem to their message
[13:46] <tanto> i want to be able to handle it
[13:46] <[AQ]Ironcast> Henrik please.....
[13:47] <[AQ]Frontal> PLEX
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[13:47] <[AQ]cyde> Darran stop scamming
[13:47] <Sal> Its nothing to do with AQ henrik
[13:47] <Maymo> please add the falldamage too
[13:47] <Sal> regardless its the community.
[13:47] <[FL]nazgo> depends on the petpoint cost of the horse
[13:47] <@HenrikNystrom> I refered to the spam
[13:47] <[AQ]Frontal> Humanoid, dissappearing weapons, nodeline killing, nodeline loot, terrible laggy UI, lances/spears on MC, Lykiators, blocking, counters, falldamge
[13:47] <[AQ]Shivs> Humanoid, dissappearing weapons, nodeline killing, nodeline loot, terrible laggy UI, lances/spears on MC, Lykiators, blocking, counters, plus worst incredibly poor spelling by Discord
[13:47] <@HenrikNystrom> nothing else
[13:47] <tanto> 47 pet points i think
[13:47] <@HenrikNystrom> stop spam or you will be removed im afraid
[13:47] <[Quad]Darran> You have to be gentle and and lure him into the questions
[13:47] <[FL]nazgo> hmm
[13:47] <Maymo> Henrik
[13:47] <Maymo> plez unban me from public TS
[13:47] <[FL]nazgo> thats like 50 points I guess
[13:47] <Maymo> i havnt seen my frands in months
[13:47] <[FL]nazgo> Im not sure tho
[13:47] <@HenrikNystrom> Its far from the correct way to forward feedback or anything for that matter
[13:47] <Pantora> lol baconn joined gutrs wardec and insta died in first fight what a noob all talk and no action
[13:47] <tanto> ok
[13:47] <[Quad]Darran> Maymo you can talk to Demtri about that
[13:48] <tanto> think i'll read it to 70 and see what that does
[13:48] <Marcaeus> <Pantora> lol baconn joined gutrs wardec and insta died in first fight what a noob all talk and no action
[13:48] <Maymo> OK so lets see what else is on the hot topic of broken pvp balance
[13:48] <Marcaeus> That precache
[13:48] <[AQ]Frontal> Not to be rude, but nobody expect feedback
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[13:48] <[AQ]Frontal> we just want you to know
[13:48] <[Quad]Darran> But Henrik, what are your plans on adjusting the huge balance issues we are facing at the moment.
[13:48] <[AQ]Frontal> how broken MO is
[13:48] <[Quad]Darran> That can't wait for a couple of months
[13:48] <Maymo> Henrik knows
[13:48] <Maymo> nerd
[13:48] <Sal> Oh he knows but he can't fix it because no money.
[13:48] <[Quad]Darran> There are huge issues that need fixing right away, not after 6 months
[13:48] <[AQ]Frontal> doubt it
[13:48] <[FATE]Pope_Atha> 1shot ppl is balanced!
[13:48] <Sal> no money no coders no fix no game.
[13:48] <Maymo> I had a long talk with him a while ago
[13:49] <Maymo> that lasted for an hour or two
[13:49] <[Quad]Darran> As I said, this is like boomsticks during early release
[13:49] <Maymo> and apparently hes on the same page as everyone
[13:49] <[AQ]Frontal> lolol
[13:49] <Dunnosi> nothing can wait for a couple of months :P and always everything else has to wait for combat adjustment
[13:49] <[FL]nazgo> indeed
[13:49] <[AQ]Frontal> oh I forgot to add butchery to the list
[13:49] <[Quad]Darran> Dunnosi sorry what?
[13:49] <[Quad]Darran> When has something waited for combat being adjusted?
[13:49] <@HenrikNystrom> No matter what we fix or balance there will always be an as impoirtant the next week, remember some weeks ago, there was only one issue everyone said, mauls!
[13:50] <Maymo> u also forgot the retarded new guard system
[13:50] <@HenrikNystrom> why is there something just as important when the mauls are no more ?
[13:50] <Marcaeus> Too many promises on game. I find it amusing how no matter what people suggest, you say you'll do it.
[13:50] <[Quad]Darran> Henrik maybe you should spend time on balance then
[13:50] <[Quad]Darran> deticate a month to it and do it for good
[13:50] <@HenrikNystrom> Darran you know we have a team spending a lot of time on that
[13:50] <[Quad]Darran> instead of changing one thing every half a year
[13:50] <@HenrikNystrom> helping us with feedback
[13:50] <@HenrikNystrom> we are still a small team
[13:50] <[Quad]Darran> yea, but feedback and doing something are 2 different things
[13:50] <@HenrikNystrom> we need to take a few things at the time
[13:50] <[KotO]Meowington> you should come pvp with group henrik
[13:50] <[FL]nazgo> if you want to balance, you need to rework playstyles. Like magery, archery..
[13:50] <[AQ]cyde> giving feed back =/= listening to feed back
[13:50] <[KotO]Meowington> and witness these lance lyks riders yourself
[13:50] <[AQ]Ironcast> I just want some balance Henrik, balance shouldnt take this long.
[13:50] <@HenrikNystrom> alright darran, you are right I give up, we do nothing
[13:50] <[AQ]Frontal> not spamming just updating the list as it goes
[13:50] <[Quad]Darran> it doesn't help the situation at all if we need to wait 6 months for each balance change
[13:50] <@HenrikNystrom> we just sit here and chat :)
[13:51] <Maymo> Another thing Henrik, you removed the +5 con on stout
[13:51] <[AQ]Frontal> Humanoid, dissappearing weapons, nodeline killing, nodeline loot, terrible laggy UI, lances/spears on MC, Lykiators, blocking, counters, fall damage, butchery, guard system
[13:51] <Dunnosi> what nazgo said :P
[13:51] <[FL]nazgo> its pointless to perfect current balance as it will change when you add more playstyles
[13:51] <@HenrikNystrom> the game maskes it self
[13:51] <Maymo> rendering some races bad yet again
[13:51] <@HenrikNystrom> its amazing
[13:51] <Sekmeth> I guess it would help if this community would stop wining, and just give constructive feedback
[13:51] <[Quad]Darran> hehe
[13:51] <[Quad]Darran> I'm not saying that
[13:51] <@HenrikNystrom> yes you are :)
[13:51] <[AQ]Frontal> Henrik, sieges take 8 hours. nobody is doing anything
[13:51] <[AQ]Frontal> make shit conquerable
[13:51] <[Quad]Darran> but still, it's hard on players when we have to wait 6 months for each balance thing :)
[13:51] <[FL]nazgo> 6months?
[13:51] <[FL]nazgo> magery was supposed to be reeady for release date patch
[13:51] <[Quad]Darran> and have to coop with something like 1 shot lances and 1-2 shot mauls
[13:52] <@HenrikNystrom> you know you messed up if you got one shoted by a lance darran?
[13:52] <[AQ]Ironcast> Darran please........ its a feature.
[13:52] <Maymo> Ahh, cant forget faster sprinting in combat mode
[13:52] <@HenrikNystrom> as in all you do is running naken towards a lance :)
[13:52] <Maymo> which is dumb in so many ways
[13:52] <[AQ]cyde> looool
[13:52] <[AQ]Ironcast> OMG Henrik is as stupid as the forum users.
[13:52] <[AQ]cyde> :L :P XD :D
[13:52] <[Quad]Darran> Henrik please..
[13:52] <Dunnosi> yes maymo
[13:52] <[FATE]Pope_Atha> Omg
[13:52] <Tukh> Henrik, Darran is just angry because they lost to Sweden in the Olympic Hockey
[13:52] <[AQ]Frontal> you know you messed up when I can hit metal armors for 90 with a lance and 140 on a amge right?
[13:52] <[AQ]Zheo> HenrikNystrom: not only can MC one shot players they can now also run up mountains higher than players on foot can so they cant escape and add to that MC has knockdowns which is the only CC in the game
[13:52] <[FL]nazgo> thats not one shot
[13:52] <Tukh> Silly finnish ppl
[13:52] <@HenrikNystrom> Ironcast Im simply looking on what the test group supply
[13:52] <@HenrikNystrom> Im by no means an pvp expert in MO
[13:52] <@HenrikNystrom> even though I know the numbers behind it
[13:52] <[AQ]Frontal> we have plenty of ex test group members
[13:53] <[AQ]Zheo> how is that supposed to be balanced in any way at all?
[13:53] <[AQ]Frontal> works wonders we heard
[13:53] <[AQ]Shivs> pretty sure i heard therer was enver going to be one shot in this game, now i understand it was meant to be due to a level of player skill and not game meachinics being balanced
[13:53] <Marcaeus> The test group needs a balance.
[13:53] <[KotO]Meowington> henrik go roaming with guild
[13:53] <[AQ]cyde> you know the numbers like ... 300 [Head]
[13:53] <[KotO]Meowington> and witness these lyks lancefs your self
[13:53] <[AQ]cyde> or [128] Handle
[13:53] <[KotO]Meowington> if you have time
[13:53] <[AQ]cyde> or [140] Blocked
[13:53] <[AQ]Gigamo> knockdown spam is amazing
[13:53] <[AQ]Gigamo> too
[13:53] <[KotO]Meowington> that only way you can see it yourself
[13:53] <[AQ]Ironcast> Skill matters
[13:53] <Maymo> BRING BACK THE SKILLBASED HANDLEHITS
[13:53] <[FL]nazgo> Im yet to die against mc on my mage
[13:53] <@HenrikNystrom> there is requests for player skills, so there is players skills required to avoid those lance hits, when no player skills was used, it can deal a very high dmg
[13:53] <[Quad]Darran> Henrik if I'm fighting multiple people and someone lances me for 150 from behind me, is that balanced?
[13:53] <[AQ]Frontal> hey henrik my lyk can climb better than me run many times quicker and has 460 HP
[13:53] <Sal> does anyone have  alist at least
[13:53] <[AQ]Ironcast> It says so on the main page!
[13:53] <[AQ]Frontal> BALANCED
[13:53] <[AQ]cyde> bring back the caps loc
[13:53] <@HenrikNystrom> though just simply holding right mouse button does wonders for dmg
[13:53] <[AQ]cyde> k
[13:53] <Sal> someone make a mother fucking list and send it to  him
[13:53] <[AQ]cyde> Henrik plz
[13:54] <[AQ]Ironcast> Watch me stick this stick out BAM
[13:54] <[FL]nazgo> henrik is serving people in here
[13:54] <[FL]nazgo> I like this
[13:54] <[AQ]Frontal> Henrik, have you ever pvped?
[13:54] <[AQ]Ironcast> Im 1337 no scoping bitches with a stick
[13:54] <@HenrikNystrom> Frontal, what is pvp?
[13:54] <Tukh> Henrik, just ban all these haters.
[13:54] <Dunnosi> lol
[13:54] <@HenrikNystrom> I have never ever pvped
[13:54] <[AQ]Frontal> player vs player
[13:54] <Sal> lol
[13:54] <[AQ]Frontal> come to our TS and roam with us
[13:54] <Sal> and the trolling begins.
[13:54] <Sal> gg
[13:54] <@HenrikNystrom> are you sure?
[13:54] <Maymo> Henrik, u should listen to Aphillas more
[13:54] <Maymo> a lot more
[13:54] <@HenrikNystrom> I thoguuht it was player vs props
[13:54] <[AQ]Ironcast> Henrik come have a discussion with us I promise to be more polite
[13:54] <Dunnosi> get a new test group apparently all the AQ guys that are supposedly in it must suck and break the nda anyway :P
[13:54] <[AQ]Frontal> you probably believe that
[13:54] <[Quad]Darran> There is no PvP, it was replaced by LvL ;)
[13:54] <[AQ]Frontal> seeing at how balanced the game is
[13:54] <[Quad]Darran> lance vs lance!
[13:54] <[AQ]Frontal> might as well player vs props
[13:55] <@HenrikNystrom> I have no issues in discussing and talking on a correct level with players
[13:55] <[AQ]cyde> Player vs Lyk
[13:55] <[AQ]Frontal> props being lances and lyks
[13:55] <@HenrikNystrom> but when it comes down to a level that doesnt gfet us anywhere its a time waste
[13:55] <Tukh> I agree
[13:55] <[AQ]Ironcast> I think the issue is at the moment isthe test team isnt a balanced group itself.
[13:55] <@HenrikNystrom> the only way to work with something is logic feedback when both sides understands the system and balance issue
[13:55] <[AQ]Frontal> only one question
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[13:55] <@HenrikNystrom> the way is not to say oohhh its OP
[13:55] <[AQ]Frontal> who thought of butchery?
[13:55] <@HenrikNystrom> just explaining
[13:55] <[AQ]Ironcast> Its mainly made up of PVE and crafters
[13:55] <Tukh> These people are like pirhanas in a feeding frenzy
[13:55] <@HenrikNystrom> how we work with the focus team
[13:55] <@HenrikNystrom> and thats a must
[13:55] <Maymo> Well good day, Henrik please work on the blocking asap it will make the gameplay a million times better and more skillbased
[13:55] <@HenrikNystrom> so when yo uare nice to pass us feedback
[13:55] <@HenrikNystrom> you should think about it for a second
[13:55] <Sal> i'm waiting for henrik to say
[13:56] <[AQ]cyde> HenrikNystrom that is very true, it is useful for both sides to know unfortunately
[13:56] <Marcaeus> I heard you ignore feedback.
[13:56] <[AQ]cyde> that is not the case
[13:56] <Sal> YOU MAD!
[13:56] <@HenrikNystrom> marceus the focus group is players...
[13:56] <@HenrikNystrom> we work with players to balance things
[13:56] <[AQ]Frontal> Henrik we have plenty of ex-focus gorpu players
[13:56] <@HenrikNystrom> as we dont have the same time to play and test
[13:56] <Marcaeus> I'd just hire staff. They don't know what they're doing apparently.
[13:56] <[AQ]Frontal> rumor goes you hardlylisten to them
[13:56] <[AQ]cyde> apparently your focus group is taken up entirely of #adapters
[13:56] <@HenrikNystrom> we cant hire testers as they dont know how to pvp or how anything works if we dont educate them in months
[13:56] <Sal> hahaha
[13:56] <Sal> adapaters :D
[13:56] <[AQ]Zheo> how is one hitting players or making them not able to defend them selfs for 5-7 ever not OP ?
[13:56] <@HenrikNystrom> there are very tallented players though
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[13:57] <[AQ]Frontal> LOL
[13:57] <@HenrikNystrom> that aslso understands the concept of how development works
[13:57] <asdf1234> so
[13:57] <Marcaeus> It's called a QC team.
[13:57] <[AQ]Ironcast> Na
[13:57] <asdf1234> let me get this straight
[13:57] <@HenrikNystrom> so it can be very effective
[13:57] <@HenrikNystrom> there, enough about that now
[13:57] <asdf1234> Henrik
[13:57] <asdf1234> quick question
[13:57] <@HenrikNystrom> I didnt come in here to discuss that
[13:57] * [Quad]Darran waits for balance
[13:57] <asdf1234> Was it you who made discords password?
[13:57] <asdf1234> or what?
[13:57] <[FATE]Pope_Atha> I like turtles
[13:57] <[AQ]Frontal> #2020
[13:57] <@HenrikNystrom> balance goes in every patch darran
[13:57] <@HenrikNystrom> stil l!!!
[13:57] <Marcaeus> Every week there's balance. Clearly it's not being done correctly.
[13:57] <Marcaeus> Just saying.
[13:57] <[Quad]Darran> Last patch was 1,5 months ago :(
[13:57] <[FL]nazgo> hi dotix
[13:57] <@HenrikNystrom> its small steps
[13:58] <[AQ]cyde> nazgo how did you guess it was me
[13:58] <[AQ]Gigamo> lykiators kill solo pvp, pls fix :(
[13:58] <[FATE]Pope_Atha> ohlololroflzomfgomfgomg111!!!!111
[13:58] * asdf1234 slaps HenrikNystrom around a bit with a large trout
[13:58] * Kubalay Slaps trout out of asdf1234's hand and throws it back in the river. Trouts saved: 16
[13:58] <Maymo> blocking also kills solo pvp
[13:58] <asdf1234> you silly goose
[13:58] <Sekmeth> Technically last patch was a few days ago
[13:58] <[Quad]Darran> but still any player who pvps can see huge issues as clear as day and night..
[13:58] <Maymo> #justsayin
[13:58] <@HenrikNystrom> a lyk kills you solo?
[13:58] <Marcaeus> Henrik, the game was great before, but it had bugs. Should have just resolved those instead of changing the game play.
[13:58] <[AQ]cyde> no!
[13:58] <[AQ]Frontal> Henrik want to 1v1 my 125 lyk?
[13:58] <[QUAD]Alfarin> mage double cast is bad :(
[13:58] <[AQ]Ironcast> Lyks can be set on you in water and they sit at the bottom of the sea hitting you at the top for 40's
[13:58] <Tukh> Darran is so spoiled by Game companies with hundreds of employees with their daily patch or something
[13:58] <[AQ]Ironcast> ask frontal
[13:58] <[FL]nazgo> they didnt change the gameplay, they added more playstyles
[13:58] <[AQ]Gigamo> there is no escape from them
[13:58] <[Quad]Darran> "I can deal 150 damage on this player every 2-3 seconds, is this balanced?"
[13:58] <@HenrikNystrom> frontal, my melee wont beat your lyk?
[13:58] <[FL]nazgo> something that has been lacking since release
[13:58] <[AQ]Gigamo> they climb mountains better than players
[13:59] <Marcaeus> ^
[13:59] <[AQ]Frontal> you forget that I can heal my lyk
[13:59] <Sal> also
[13:59] <Sal> the fall damage
[13:59] <Sal> wtf is with that.
[13:59] <Marcaeus> Lyks regen too.
[13:59] <@HenrikNystrom> so its not 1on1 ?
[13:59] <Dunnosi> I like how people complain about AI issues, making them lykiator issues.
[13:59] <[AQ]Zheo> pets can hardly be killed in water if its deep enough
[13:59] <@HenrikNystrom> 1v2 you mean?
[13:59] <[AQ]Shivs> i feel sorry that u come in here and get pounced on, but when something as obiously unbalanced as the dmg done by lances on lyks is called legitimate by yourself, of course people are going to wonder if u have a handle on this game
[13:59] <Sal> FALL DAAGE.
[13:59] <Sal> DAMAGE.
[13:59] <asdf1234> Henrik how does it feel to not know anything about your game besides the name and the server location?
[13:59] <Maymo> lol
[13:59] <sir_phobos> more like 1v5
[13:59] <Maymo> its a 1v1 since its made retardedly
[13:59] <Sal> I drop 1 metre and bam
[13:59] <[AQ]Frontal> oh you can beat a lyk 1v1 on a heavy armor guy
[13:59] <[Quad]Darran> Henrik PvP CANT be balanced based on 1v1.
[13:59] <[Quad]Darran> Theend.
[13:59] <Sal> my legs are broken
[13:59] <[AQ]Frontal> MUST BE BALANCED
[13:59] <Sal> MY LEGS ARE BROKEN
[13:59] <Maymo> a full pvp character can control a SECOND pvp character
[13:59] <asdf1234> These questions need to be answered Henrik
[13:59] <[AQ]Frontal> lol
[13:59] <[AQ]Gigamo> also Maymo i assume you're talking about blocking stamina usage
[13:59] <@HenrikNystrom> asdf, Im doing my best, I just discovered it
[13:59] <Sal> BROKEN LEGS
[13:59] <Sal> 1 METRE
[13:59] <Pantora> please kick the spammers please
[13:59] <Maymo> which can be a minotaur, a lvl 125 molva
[13:59] <sir_phobos> due to knockdown, damage, speed, travel distance, and climbability
[13:59] <Sal> LEGS BROKEN
[13:59] <Marcaeus> Lance = longest range. Kd, then circle with a lyk for perma kd.
[13:59] <@HenrikNystrom> alright mods, its time for some action I think! :)
[13:59] <[AQ]Frontal> Henrik your sentence just showed how little you know of pvp balanced
[13:59] <asdf1234> action?
[13:59] <Maymo> no
[13:59] <asdf1234> mods?
[13:59] <Dunnosi> There are no mods
[13:59] <Maymo> im talking about retardedly easymode blocking
[13:59] <Dunnosi> this is never modded
[13:59] <Sal> Balance is needed !
[13:59] <asdf1234> YOU DO NOT HAVE ADMIN IN YOUR OWN GAMES IRC?
[14:00] <Aralis> Yes people like you need kicking asdf.
[14:00] <[AQ]Frontal> "I can 1v1 your lyk so its balance"
[14:00] <[AQ]Frontal> wtf
[14:00] <[AQ]Ironcast> Balance is needed!
[14:00] <[AQ]cyde> henrik youre not having a break down are you because that would be kinda shitty
[14:00] <Sal> balance !
[14:00] <Sekmeth> Yes please, ban the spammers
[14:00] <@HenrikNystrom> I try not to take on the role as a moderator, I already got 5 posiitons at SV
[14:00] <Tukh> IRC didnt get any mod-patch, this is lawless country now :(
[14:00] <asdf1234> No wonder the game is so shit
[14:00] <[AQ]Frontal> is male model one of them?
[14:00] <asdf1234> henrik is doing everything
[14:00] <asdf1234> including making the pig noises
[14:00] <[Quad]Darran> Henrik does your office have a cleaner? I'm looking for a summerjob.
[14:00] <Tukh> Nah, but it would seem like there are no mods on atm
[14:00] <@HenrikNystrom> Cyde well, I havnt really recovered since my dad past away just recently
[14:00] <@HenrikNystrom> still feels unreal
[14:01] <Maymo> didnt have to play that card
[14:01] <[AQ]cyde> understandable
[14:01] <@HenrikNystrom> so  I may have  a shorter temper.. thats for sure
[14:01] <asdf1234> ohhhh
[14:01] <asdf1234> shit just got real
[14:01] <[Quad]Darran> Henrik my dad died 14 years ago and it still feels unreal ^^
[14:01] <[AQ]Frontal> the feels
[14:01] <Aralis> Yep never feels quite right.
[14:01] <Sal> im picking my nose
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[14:01] <Tukh> I feel bad for Henrik atm, all these kids going on some feeding frenzy on him like it would help anything
[14:01] <[FL]nazgo> indeed
[14:01] <Aralis> Indeed.
[14:01] <[FL]nazgo> the old elite pvpers ^^
[14:01] <asdf1234> Henrik would it be fucked up to make a character call HenriksFather kill it and send you the head in the mail?
[14:01] <[AQ]cyde> people are frustrated though
[14:01] <[KotO]Meowington> we still monument in tindrem to honor our emperor btw henrik
[14:01] <Maymo> #fixEasymodeBlocking
[14:01] <Maymo> AFK
[14:02] <@HenrikNystrom> Tukh, I know how this industry is, I didnt expect every player to agree on our game and enjoy our game or even be polite or nice when being here
[14:02] <[AQ]cyde> ban this fucking kid
[14:02] <asdf1234> ban this fucking kid he says
[14:02] <asdf1234> yet i am still here
[14:02] <[AQ]cyde> fuck you dotix
[14:02] <asdf1234> fuck you cyde
[14:02] <[AQ]Frontal> Humanoid, dissappearing weapons, nodeline killing, nodeline loot, terrible laggy UI, lances/spears on MC, Lykiators, blocking, counters, fall damage, butchery, guard system
[14:02] <asdf1234> henrik fucks all of usd daily
[14:02] <asdf1234> and you do not talk shit to him
[14:02] * asdf1234 was kicked by HenrikNystrom (HenrikNystrom)
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[14:02] <[TBC]Sarkhan> and yet you pay to play his game how funny
[14:02] <Aralis> If you don't like the game do us all a favour and go away play something else.
[14:02] <asdf1234> wow
[14:02] <asdf1234> lmao
[14:02] <Sekmeth> you need to ban him
[14:02] <asdf1234> just wow
[14:03] <asdf1234> henrik you are so pathetic
[14:03] <@HenrikNystrom> this is why Im not a mod.
[14:03] <Marcaeus> GG mods.
[14:03] <@HenrikNystrom> cause I dont even know how it works
[14:03] <asdf1234> you can not even kick out of your own games irc
[14:03] <[KotO]Meowington> I agree aralis
[14:03] <Xhodan-Xeus> someone ban this asdf1234 guy
[14:03] <Xhodan-Xeus> just click on ban henrik
[14:03] <Xhodan-Xeus> no on kick
[14:03] <asdf1234> is this also the reason the game is shit?
[14:03] <[AQ]Gigamo> ./mode +b asdf1234
[14:03] <asdf1234> or is there more excuses for that one
[14:03] <Dunnosi> we haven't had real moderation here in years.
[14:03] <asdf1234> just wondering
[14:03] <asdf1234> magreed
[14:03] <[TBC]Sarkhan> its better that way, we police ourselves these days
[14:03] <[AQ]Frontal> ./mode +b asdf1234
[14:03] <asdf1234> lel
[14:04] <asdf1234> still here
[14:04] <asdf1234> after all of this
[14:04] <Dunnosi> anarchy isn't policing :P
[14:04] <Kamz> this kid tho
[14:04] <Sekmeth> Dude get a life and go somewhere else asfd
[14:04] <Kamz> stfu trash
[14:04] <Kamz> ;D
[14:04] <Marcaeus> The internet got serious.
[14:04] * [TBC]Sarkhan thinks Dunnosi has a point
[14:04] * asdf1234 slaps Magree around a bit with a large trout
[14:04] * Kubalay Slaps trout out of asdf1234's hand and throws it back in the river. Trouts saved: 17
[14:04] * asdf1234 slaps Magree around a bit with a large trout
[14:04] * Kubalay Slaps trout out of asdf1234's hand and throws it back in the river. Trouts saved: 18
[14:04] <Xhodan-Xeus> if you right click his name you should have a ban option too
[14:04] * asdf1234 slaps Magree around a bit with a large trout
[14:04] * asdf1234 slaps Magree around a bit with a large trout
[14:04] <@Guardian-MO> asdf1234, please stop spamming the channel...
[14:04] * Kubalay Slaps trout out of asdf1234's hand and throws it back in the river. Trouts saved: 19
[14:04] * asdf1234 slaps Magree around a bit with a large trout
[14:04] * Kubalay Slaps trout out of asdf1234's hand and throws it back in the river. Trouts saved: 20
[14:04] * Kubalay Slaps trout out of asdf1234's hand and throws it back in the river. Trouts saved: 21
[14:04] * asdf1234 slaps Magree around a bit with a large trout
[14:04] * asdf1234 was kicked by Guardian-MO (stop repeating)
[14:04] * Kubalay Slaps trout out of asdf1234's hand and throws it back in the river. Trouts saved: 22
[14:04] <@Guardian-MO> asdf1234, you are banned for multiple repeat floods...
[14:04] <@Guardian-MO> asdf1234, repeating the same thing over and over is annoying...
[14:04] <[TBC]Sarkhan> lol kubalay has that set toreply to trout slaps?
[14:04] <Xhodan-Xeus> there we go
[14:04] <[TBC]Sarkhan> thats funneh
[14:04] <Dunnosi> at least the spam bot works
[14:04] <Dunnosi> haha
[14:05] <Sekmeth> Long live the spam bot =)
[14:05] <@HenrikNystrom> nice bot
[14:05] <Dunnosi> the only moderation you get here :P
[14:05] <Pantora> are we able to get some sneakpeaks of the landmass rebuild ?
[14:05] <Aralis> Never would have guessed a bot would be so useful.
[14:05] <[AQ]Ironcast> I feel bad Henrik came in here for a discussion and its jsut spam, but I think it shows how kinda annoyed we are at the system and the way people are defending it
[14:05] <[FL]nazgo> you, precisely
[14:05] <[AI]Lepida> [14:04] * [TBC]Sarkhan thinks Dunnosi has a point <-- KNOWS Dunnosi has a point.
[14:05] <Sekmeth> Poke discord, have him clean up the riffraff
[14:05] <Marcaeus> The personal level was over the top, but the rest is people just passionate.
[14:06] <[TBC]Sarkhan> so nazgo you played shadowbane?
[14:06] <Aralis> Passionate is meaningless.
[14:06] <Aralis> Half of them have nothing to say beyond waaah.
[14:06] <Marcaeus> Haha.
[14:06] <[KotO]Meowington> henrik hope you realise why so many people get mad is because they truly enjoy this game and want it go right direction
[14:06] <[KotO]Meowington> current state of Lyks and MC is not right direction
[14:06] <Dunnosi> actually most people want the game to go their direction
[14:06] <Aralis> For right direction read favours them mostly.
[14:07] <Dunnosi> actually most people want the game to go their direction
[14:07] <Aralis> :)
[14:07] <Sekmeth> I think ppl also need to realize, the devs cant just snap their fingers and fix all the issues. THey are a small team, and it will take time.
[14:07] <[Quad]Darran> And its a totally different thing being a developer and a player. Things that don't seem to take too much time for you is huge amount of time for us
[14:07] <Marcaeus> Direction of the game run by a bunch of kids. Smart.
[14:07] <[Quad]Darran> Every day and week we have to suffer with bad balance eats us inside
[14:07] <[Quad]Darran> because we face it every day
[14:07] <[AQ]Ironcast> no Dunnosi MO in the last 2 years has gone backwards in combat. But seeing Henrik himself blindly defending 1 shot lances and lizds meh...
[14:08] <Pantora> when can i get my waggon iv been going on about for 2-3 years ? :D
[14:08] <@HenrikNystrom> There is one thing to think about moewing, yes I understand balance must move forward and it does, every time we fix the biggest complain there is a new one, and thats how it will be, there is always something someone want to change
[14:08] <Tukh> Cant you put the IRC in "slow mode" like you can in twitch chat? So that you can only post something every 30 secounds. The spam is too much
[14:08] <@HenrikNystrom> so it cant possible be one magic fix and we are all happy
[14:08] <[KotO]Meowington> That is true mauls were problems
[14:08] <[KotO]Meowington> then people jumped on lances
[14:08] <[AI]Lepida> I'm afraid even the best game ever has a *lifespan*, and I don't want MO to reach its end without ever getting even halfway done / fixed.
[14:08] <[Quad]Darran> oh I can't wait for new magic.. Will most likely have to stop playing
[14:08] <@HenrikNystrom> and there was something before mauls
[14:08] <@HenrikNystrom> and something before that
[14:08] <[Quad]Darran> will be the most unbalance thing this game has ever seen
[14:08] <@HenrikNystrom> since release
[14:08] <[AQ]Gigamo> the main problem is lykiators, honestly
[14:08] <[Quad]Darran> waiting for 1 shot spells
[14:08] <[KotO]Meowington> but imo it mostly lyks
[14:08] <@HenrikNystrom> first age was great blade online
[14:08] <[AQ]Gigamo> there will always be a strong weapon on a mount
[14:08] <Marcaeus> Hypothetically could you reroll the game back 2 years?
[14:08] <[AQ]Gigamo> but when you could use mountains against them, it's not as big of a deal
[14:09] <Aralis> You wouldn't like it if he did.
[14:09] <[Quad]Darran> Henrik that kind of balance issues are "smaller" because they don't throw 200 dmg in your face
[14:09] <Marcaeus> MC was fine 2 years ago. The terrain is what killed it.
[14:09] <[KotO]Meowington> lyks should have way lower health if they have mobiltity they do now
[14:09] <[Quad]Darran> 1 and 2 shot weapons are a different thing entirely when it comes to balance
[14:09] <@HenrikNystrom> reroll it 2 years, the game wouldnt be able to have anything new in it then
[14:09] <[AI]Lepida> Or moderate the whole channel and take questions in PMs, one at a time, and answer them. Otherwise, it's like you're just using the natural chaos as an excuse for why enough didn't get answered.
[14:09] <[Quad]Darran> comparing to lack of variety
[14:09] <@HenrikNystrom> you must understand the game is in a better state than release
[14:09] <@HenrikNystrom> even if you remember an epic moment when you killed someone with that g sword
[14:09] <[AQ]Frontal> it might be better code wise
[14:09] <@HenrikNystrom> there was so many flaws in the core how you performed action
[14:09] <[AQ]Frontal> but content wise
[14:09] <@HenrikNystrom> it was a random lotto
[14:09] <[AQ]Frontal> not really imo
[14:09] <Marcaeus> I'm a mace kind of guy, but now maces are op too.
[14:09] <@HenrikNystrom> which we dont want
[14:09] <[KotO]Meowington> I remeber killing guy with cuprum sword
[14:09] <[Quad]Darran> Henrik better state technically
[14:09] <[KotO]Meowington> and was like I looted ogh sword now
[14:10] <[FL]nazgo> current balance has flaws, but less than the old game
* Looking up HenrikNystrom user info...
[14:10] <[Quad]Darran> How the game is technically and how it is balance and feel wise are 2 different things
[14:10] <Roan> Now onto the serious matters: Why does brawling use mroe stam than swinging a 2h blade?
[14:10] <[FL]nazgo> problems i mean
[14:10] <[AQ]Frontal> nazgo, just stop how can you even say that
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[14:10] <Dunnosi> implement all the features, then look at balance :P
[14:10] <[Quad]Darran> Nazgo maybe, but now instead of lots of small problems we have a few huge ones
[14:10] <[FL]nazgo> easily
[14:10] <@HenrikNystrom> its also odd when we did a big balance patch based on feedback everyone said yes its the best ever thank god,  but today its not that state anymore
[14:10] <@HenrikNystrom> its the never ending ffind a new weapon
[14:10] <@HenrikNystrom> no matter how many weapons we go thorugh
[14:10] <[AQ]Gigamo> most of the things in that patch were good
[14:10] <@HenrikNystrom> we are still doing it though
[14:10] <[AQ]Gigamo> lykiators were unchanged as far as i know
[14:10] <@HenrikNystrom> have been doing for a long time
[14:11] <[Quad]Darran> Gotta think when you implement them then?
[14:11] <[Quad]Darran> can this weapon one shot someone
[14:11] <Marcaeus> Weapons are strictly based on dmg. That's why.
[14:11] <@HenrikNystrom> lyks was nerfed
[14:11] <[AQ]Frontal> the latest patch was good
[14:11] <[AQ]cyde> in fairness i noticed a lot of improvements within the game when i came back but theres a few things hanging over all that making things not fun
[14:11] <Marcaeus> There's no utility to them.
[14:11] <Roan> I understand. The issue is too serious to even be noted.
* Looking up [GM]Drusus user info...
[14:11] <[AQ]Frontal> lyks were nowhere nerfed enough
[14:11] <[Quad]Darran> Lyks as combat pets was nerfed henrik
[14:11] <@HenrikNystrom> both in speed, dmg stamina,
[14:11] <[AQ]Frontal> and I ride a lyk
[14:11] <[FL]nazgo> I play mage and MA and I enjoy the current balance. Lances should break in one hit tho, if they keep the dmg
[14:11] <kro> i agree with nazgo. there is a lot more room for diversity actually, and a lot more overall balance..problems are lyks, and 1/2 shoot ability in a full loot skill based game
[14:11] <@HenrikNystrom> and pp cost
[14:11] <[FL]nazgo> mauls are not even a problem anymore
[14:11] <Marcaeus> There will always be 1 superior weapon.
[14:11] <[AQ]Ironcast> Your too focused on new content instead of fixing some balance issues at the moment, the game has improved massively but I feel combat has got real dull lately, and too number friendly
[14:11] <[AQ]Frontal> Mounts should not even be able to attack
[14:11] <@HenrikNystrom> lances was intended to have low dur, and when you block them, they really break quickly
[14:11] <[FL]nazgo> well, atm they dont seem to do that
[14:11] <@HenrikNystrom> have you tried a normal lance on a block?
[14:11] <[Quad]Darran> That's not an issue
[14:12] <[Quad]Darran> when I can produce infinite amount of them
[14:12] <[Quad]Darran> they are super cheap
[14:12] <Roan> doesnt matter when cu lances onehit mages haha. Their cost is minimal, jsut carry few of em.
[14:12] <Marcaeus> Henrik you played UO. Think about what weapons did in that game. That would be nice in MO.
[14:12] <[Quad]Darran> a steel lance cost me roughly 10 gold and hits 120 on steel armor
[14:12] <[AQ]Zheo> lances are too cheap HenrikNystrom
[14:12] <[AQ]Zheo> :)
[14:12] <[KotO]Meowington> why steel?
[14:12] <[KotO]Meowington> use cuprum
[14:12] <[KotO]Meowington> way cheaper almost same damage
[14:12] <@HenrikNystrom> marceus my hally vanq one shoted mages in UO
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[14:12] <@HenrikNystrom> and 2 shotted melees
[14:12] <Marcaeus> I doubt that.
[14:12] <@HenrikNystrom> doubt it? hehe
[14:12] <@HenrikNystrom> well its a fact
[14:12] <@HenrikNystrom> all uo vets knows that was possible
[14:13] <@HenrikNystrom> and im not talking in their beta
[14:13] <@HenrikNystrom> im talking in their prime time
[14:13] <Marcaeus> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNes4nL-gAE
[14:13] <@HenrikNystrom> pre trammel
[14:13] <[Quad]Darran> was that balanced then?
[14:13] <Marcaeus> Watch.
[14:13] <[Quad]Darran> :)
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[14:13] <[RAGE]Eladriel> MC IS THE BEST ATM!! one shotting owns!
[14:13] <[RAGE]Eladriel> I WANT one shotting to stay in 4eva
[14:13] <[Quad]Darran> Eladriel shh.
[14:13] <[AQ]Gigamo> also equally important
[14:13] <[AQ]Gigamo> knockdowns :(
[14:13] <[Quad]Darran> oh yea.
[14:14] <[FATE]Rev> Henrik
[14:14] <[RAGE]Eladriel> well cmon 325 dmg with an oddspear from mount is NOT ENOUGH WE WANT 450!
[14:14] <[RAGE]Eladriel> cmon ppl
[14:14] <[FATE]Rev> log into your game right now
[14:14] <[Quad]Darran> when a playerbase has said this is clearly unbalanced and doesnt fit the game for 5 years..
[14:14] <[Quad]Darran> well
[14:14] <[Quad]Darran> :)
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[14:14] <[FATE]Rev> and tell me if you see anything
[14:14] <ship2> hallo all.. been away for a while. Is forsaken still around?
[14:14] <[TBC]Sarkhan> yes
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[14:14] <[FL]nazgo> I wonder what kind of armors you are wearing
[14:14] <[FL]nazgo> Im yet to be hitted for 100dmg from a lance
[14:14] <[RAGE]Eladriel> It's funny all the guilds running on mounted with spears and lances and using these one shot tactics are lame adaptoids
[14:14] <[AQ]Frontal> you are obviously not a mage nazgo
[14:14] <[FL]nazgo> luckily I dont do that
[14:14] <[AQ]Zheo> i dont even understand why knockdowns were re-added to the game
[14:14] <[AQ]Zheo> :P
[14:15] <[RAGE]Eladriel> BUT HEY at least mounted maces got fixed...now the next best thing is fucking mounted odd spear..go figure
[14:15] <[FL]nazgo> I am a mage, my first char actually is a mage
[14:15] <Roan> Nah. Next thing to get fixed is fist weapons sir.
[14:15] <Roan> FIST WEAPONS!!!
[14:15] <@HenrikNystrom> whats after the odd spear? lets do them all in one run? :)
[14:15] <[AQ]Frontal> then go get hit by an EC sator spear
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[14:15] <[FL]nazgo> go hit?
[14:15] <[FL]nazgo> I usually avoid that
[14:15] <Marcaeus> Get rid of prepatched items.
[14:15] <[AQ]Frontal> haha
[14:15] <[TBC]Sarkhan> there you go guys list the weps that dont work
[14:15] <[TBC]Sarkhan> help the dev
[14:15] <[KotO]Soror> fistwep is already fine.
[14:15] <[AQ]Frontal> with the current prediction/lag?
[14:15] <[AQ]Frontal> haha
[14:15] <[AI]Lepida> Annnnnd, it's all about the combat.
[14:15] <Roan> Fistweap fine? Haha.
[14:15] <[KotO]Meowington> soror master fistweapon
[14:15] <[FL]nazgo> it seems so
[14:16] <[AQ]Gigamo> anything with a lot of piercing damage used on a mount scales too highly with momentum
[14:16] <[Quad]Darran> Odd spear, sator spear, lances with 2h long handle and 2h sauroter handle. All are 1-2 shot weapons
[14:16] <[KotO]Meowington> I seen soror smash people faces in with fist weapons
[14:16] <[AQ]Frontal> oh nvm you are FL you never roam with less than a zerg
[14:16] <Roan> They use more stam than anything else, are slower than a steel GB, cant be used if you got anything in second hand but another weapon (Yes, shields, torches etc makes your fists go through everything magically.
[14:16] <[FL]nazgo> less than a zerg?
[14:16] <Roan> But yeah, they work :O
[14:16] <[FL]nazgo> I wonder what year this is
[14:16] <[FL]nazgo> 2009?
[14:16] <[AQ]Frontal> I wish
[14:17] <[Quad]Darran> I dont
[14:17] <Marcaeus> Much progress in here.
[14:17] <Marcaeus> Lol
[14:18] <Marcaeus> <[KotO]Meowington> I seen soror smash people faces in with fist weapons
[14:18] <[Quad]Darran> I seen soror get on my way
[14:18] <Marcaeus> They're op, but the lack of weapon crafting sucks.
[14:18] <[Quad]Darran> and hit nothing
[14:18] <[Quad]Darran> then I killed him.
[14:18] <Tukh> Henrik should go undercover in-game and do some roams i think
[14:18] <[AQ]Zheo> HenrikNystrom: well, soft cap the damage to something then for all weapons.. somewhere like 70-100 dmg area so that no weapon will ever hit for 300 again
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