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  1. [19/10/2014 11:35:58 p.m.] Derrik G.: yo yo bud
  2. [19/10/2014 11:36:12 p.m.] Andres Macagno: Hi again haha!
  3. [19/10/2014 11:37:24 p.m.] Derrik G.: i'll be back in like 25min
  4. [19/10/2014 11:37:27 p.m.] Derrik G.: gonna drive to buddies house
  5. [19/10/2014 11:37:39 p.m.] Derrik G.: i think i can find skrill this way tho with thread
  6. [19/10/2014 11:37:46 p.m.] Derrik G.: i'll only go through ppl a bit more trustable
  7. [19/10/2014 11:37:50 p.m.] Derrik G.: cuz it seems its like paypal
  8. [19/10/2014 11:40:36 p.m.] Andres Macagno: yeah just go with reputable people. I don't want you to lose any money !
  9. [19/10/2014 11:40:47 p.m.] Derrik G.: ofc
  10. [19/10/2014 11:40:47 p.m.] Andres Macagno: just let me know what happens :)
  11. [19/10/2014 11:40:54 p.m.] Derrik G.: wil keep ya posted
  12. [19/10/2014 11:41:00 p.m.] Derrik G.: i know my skrill registration is gonna take a few days
  13. [19/10/2014 11:42:24 p.m.] Andres Macagno: Yeah it took them 3 or 4 days to verify my information and documents
  14. [19/10/2014 11:42:32 p.m.] Andres Macagno: But well, so far everything good
  15. [19/10/2014 11:42:50 p.m.] Derrik G.: yeah if i can fund with skrill
  16. [19/10/2014 11:43:30 p.m.] Derrik G.: would be for sure best way to go about any future trades
  17. [19/10/2014 11:43:35 p.m.] Derrik G.: or back to paypal when my shits unlocked
  18. [19/10/2014 11:43:42 p.m.] Derrik G.: ahh fuck!
  19. [19/10/2014 11:43:50 p.m.] Derrik G.: I can't fund skrill w/ bank account anyway hahahah
  20. [19/10/2014 11:43:56 p.m.] Derrik G.: ima have to buy it with bitcoin for sure
  21. [19/10/2014 11:44:02 p.m.] Derrik G.: at least for 14 days
  22. [19/10/2014 11:47:04 p.m.] Andres Macagno: Oh right, well but if this goes well it would be a better option for future trades
  23. [19/10/2014 11:47:50 p.m.] Derrik G.: do you like playing poker ?
  24. [19/10/2014 11:47:58 p.m.] Derrik G.: https://sealswithclubs.eu/aff.php?aff=95
  25. [19/10/2014 11:48:05 p.m.] Derrik G.: sign up on my aff id lets play holdem some tiem :D
  26. [19/10/2014 11:50:25 p.m.] Andres Macagno: I think last time I played was 2 years ago haha! I used to play with some friends at my house, just for fun.. and now well, it's been a long time
  27. [19/10/2014 11:50:32 p.m.] Andres Macagno: But sure! I'll register :D
  28. [19/10/2014 11:51:06 p.m.] Derrik G.: yeah its not fun I dont play bigtime
  29. [19/10/2014 11:51:10 p.m.] Derrik G.: but $20 tables are fun
  30. [19/10/2014 11:51:59 p.m.] Andres Macagno: they let you fund with bitcoin?
  31. [19/10/2014 11:54:11 p.m.] Derrik G.: yup
  32. [19/10/2014 11:54:13 p.m.] Derrik G.: it sbitcoin only poker
  33. [19/10/2014 11:56:17 p.m.] Andres Macagno: oh great :P. A few years ago I've tried playing at pokerstars but there wasn't an easy way to fund the account
  34. [19/10/2014 11:57:42 p.m.] Derrik G.: oh snap
  35. [19/10/2014 11:57:45 p.m.] Derrik G.: well load 0.1 btc
  36. [19/10/2014 11:57:50 p.m.] Derrik G.: i'ma drive to friends
  37. [19/10/2014 11:57:54 p.m.] Derrik G.: an were gonna play lol
  38. [20/10/2014 12:00:52 a.m.] Andres Macagno: I'll registernow! what should I put here?:
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  41. [20/10/2014 12:01:01 a.m.] Andres Macagno: I used your link but that's still empty
  42. [28/10/2014 08:32:37 p.m.] Derrik G.: here?
  43. [28/10/2014 09:06:14 p.m.] Andres Macagno: Hi Derrik! I was afk :P
  44. [30/10/2014 02:38:44 p.m.] Andres Macagno: Hi Derrik! How are you?
  45. [30/10/2014 10:33:17 p.m.] Andres Macagno: When you're around here, let me know if you have any updates from Skrill or Paypal!
  46. [02/11/2014 03:18:37 a.m.] Derrik G.: hey andres
  47. [02/11/2014 03:18:40 a.m.] Derrik G.: let me know when your around
  48. [06/11/2014 02:57:59 a.m.] Derrik G.: yo
  49. [06/11/2014 01:23:43 p.m.] Andres Macagno: hey! how are you?
  50. [06/11/2014 10:11:11 p.m.] Derrik G.: you here?
  51. [06/11/2014 10:28:11 p.m.] Andres Macagno: I'm back!
  52. [06/11/2014 10:28:49 p.m.] Derrik G.: great how have you been apologies for being delayed on talking with you got into some things on my end that are a bit mm how you say whew.
  53. [06/11/2014 10:29:02 p.m.] Derrik G.: essentially I'm audited as running as a 'money services business'
  54. [06/11/2014 10:29:07 p.m.] Derrik G.: without a license.
  55. [06/11/2014 10:29:40 p.m.] Andres Macagno: Oh, i see.. did that cause you problems? :/
  56. [06/11/2014 10:29:58 p.m.] Derrik G.: well very much so
  57. [06/11/2014 10:30:34 p.m.] Derrik G.: i hae access to my bank account but I may need to pay using someone elses paypal.
  58. [06/11/2014 10:30:57 p.m.] Derrik G.: top of that my job itself has fucked me over a bit bad.
  59. [06/11/2014 10:31:03 p.m.] Derrik G.: its $5k right?
  60. [06/11/2014 10:32:22 p.m.] Andres Macagno: Yeah, it was 5185 total, but the fees were 2.5%, so the total amout should be a little less
  61. [06/11/2014 10:32:32 p.m.] Andres Macagno: So those problems are because of bitcoin?
  62. [06/11/2014 10:32:36 p.m.] Derrik G.: lemme math this up really quick
  63. [06/11/2014 10:32:43 p.m.] Derrik G.: bitcoin and the US IRS
  64. [06/11/2014 10:32:54 p.m.] Derrik G.: its basically put me at a complete standstill on continuing business
  65. [06/11/2014 10:33:17 p.m.] Derrik G.: essentially i'm in a lot of trouble if I can't prove that I was just a 'trader'
  66. [06/11/2014 10:33:26 p.m.] Derrik G.: up to a $250k fine
  67. [06/11/2014 10:33:29 p.m.] Derrik G.: and possible 10 years in jail
  68. [06/11/2014 10:33:59 p.m.] Andres Macagno: that's really unfair.. I mean, bitcoin is not like regular money.. it's just something virtual that now is valuable to people
  69. [06/11/2014 10:34:05 p.m.] Derrik G.: exactly...
  70. [06/11/2014 10:34:12 p.m.] Derrik G.: it was somethign with finCEN
  71. [06/11/2014 10:34:18 p.m.] Derrik G.: a 'guidance' or something
  72. [06/11/2014 10:34:21 p.m.] Derrik G.: its why bitcoin price is low right now
  73. [06/11/2014 10:35:06 p.m.] Andres Macagno: all these kind of things, and countries who want to regulate bitcoin.. it makes me realize how big this really is
  74. [06/11/2014 10:35:12 p.m.] Derrik G.: right now currently I could pay about $1000-2000 to you through paypal in about a weeks time.
  75. [06/11/2014 10:35:14 p.m.] Andres Macagno: they are afraid of loosing control
  76. [06/11/2014 10:35:28 p.m.] Derrik G.: its bad andres and i really am so sorry for this man but I got hit real hard.
  77. [06/11/2014 10:35:44 p.m.] Derrik G.: I almost feel it was because we went over 10k USD in fiat and they believe i'm laundering money
  78. [06/11/2014 10:36:28 p.m.] Derrik G.: I'll most certinaly get you paid but I'm going to have to figure out a way to do it without it being associated to my name.
  79. [06/11/2014 10:36:38 p.m.] Andres Macagno: wow.. I feel relly bad, I really didn't know that when I contacted you.. I would have exchanged less than that :/
  80. [06/11/2014 10:37:26 p.m.] Andres Macagno: if it's too much trouble, would be easier for you to return that 5k left in bitcoin maybe? Or is it better for you to find another way to do it via paypal or skrill?
  81. [06/11/2014 10:37:30 p.m.] Derrik G.: I didnt expect it either buddy trust me
  82. [06/11/2014 10:37:50 p.m.] Derrik G.: it may have to be in bitcoin but i'm severly limited on funds myself.
  83. [06/11/2014 10:37:59 p.m.] Derrik G.: I think I am able to gift $250 USD to you right now.
  84. [06/11/2014 10:38:04 p.m.] Derrik G.: but since I ran into this issue
  85. [06/11/2014 10:38:08 p.m.] Derrik G.: I'm going to cover all fees.
  86. [06/11/2014 10:38:22 p.m.] Derrik G.: so you'll receive a total of 5128
  87. [06/11/2014 10:38:33 p.m.] Derrik G.: I'm gonna have to sell off the mining farm
  88. [06/11/2014 10:38:43 p.m.] Derrik G.: and liquidate all assests I have right now because its that serious.
  89. [06/11/2014 10:38:48 p.m.] Derrik G.: May need ot sell bitcoinminerz.com to
  90. [06/11/2014 10:39:04 p.m.] Andres Macagno: No problem Derrik, it's not your fault really, I can cover the fees with no problems
  91. [06/11/2014 10:39:29 p.m.] Andres Macagno: Just go with the better option for you, the less problems you have, the better
  92. [06/11/2014 10:39:34 p.m.] Derrik G.: really buddy thanks for understanding on this I haven't touched base in a bit but thats because i'm looking at some serious charges.
  93. [06/11/2014 10:39:46 p.m.] Derrik G.: which its fucked up because the regulation wasnt even clarified until a month ago
  94. [06/11/2014 10:39:58 p.m.] Derrik G.: but now the IRS is looking into my records from as far back as 2011
  95. [06/11/2014 10:40:27 p.m.] Derrik G.: I don't want you to think i'm running off or nothing glad I caught you online.
  96. [06/11/2014 10:40:42 p.m.] Andres Macagno: and right now how are you dealing with the exchanges in bitcointalk? Are you using different accounts?
  97. [06/11/2014 10:40:54 p.m.] Andres Macagno: Yeah, i don't think so, I know you are a reputable exchanger
  98. [06/11/2014 10:40:58 p.m.] Derrik G.: a friend in china took over.
  99. [06/11/2014 10:41:03 p.m.] Derrik G.: and i am staying away until its completely sorted out.
  100. [06/11/2014 10:41:25 p.m.] Derrik G.: http://www.fincen.gov/news_room/rp/rulings/pdf/FIN-2014-R012.pdf
  101. [06/11/2014 10:41:27 p.m.] Derrik G.: this is what fucked me
  102. [06/11/2014 10:41:29 p.m.] Derrik G.: very badly
  103. [06/11/2014 10:42:18 p.m.] Derrik G.: there is one thing i've looked into
  104. [06/11/2014 10:42:26 p.m.] Derrik G.: have you ever visited adbit.co ?
  105. [06/11/2014 10:42:56 p.m.] Andres Macagno: let me see
  106. [06/11/2014 10:43:10 p.m.] Andres Macagno: I've never heard of that site
  107. [06/11/2014 10:43:25 p.m.] Derrik G.: its a ad site thats for sale if your interested
  108. [06/11/2014 10:43:30 p.m.] Derrik G.: auto-pilot money
  109. [06/11/2014 10:44:53 p.m.] Andres Macagno: oh I see. Good concept with bitcoin. The thing is, that altough I'm always buying/selling or creating websites for clients, right now I can't really handle more of them. And not with the money I have planned to use for my house (I think I told you I was investing in my house right now)
  110. [06/11/2014 10:45:14 p.m.] Andres Macagno: That's why I exchanged my bitcoins in the first place haha
  111. [06/11/2014 10:46:03 p.m.] Derrik G.: ahh yeah
  112. [06/11/2014 10:46:06 p.m.] Derrik G.: you build websites?
  113. [06/11/2014 10:47:17 p.m.] Andres Macagno: Yeah, I do the programming, and a friend of mine the designs. Now I'm building an online system for managing small businesses, since a lot of people have been asking in my city. So that might earn me some nice amount of cash
  114. [06/11/2014 10:47:31 p.m.] Andres Macagno: But I just started with that project a few weeks ago
  115. [06/11/2014 10:47:39 p.m.] Derrik G.: if you ever need help let me know
  116. [06/11/2014 10:47:45 p.m.] Derrik G.: it seems cex.io ltd may be going under
  117. [06/11/2014 10:47:49 p.m.] Derrik G.: they've not paid me in 4 weeks ...
  118. [06/11/2014 10:47:53 p.m.] Derrik G.: and i'm the business development director.
  119. [06/11/2014 10:48:04 p.m.] Derrik G.: but my ideas have turned people into CEO's
  120. [06/11/2014 10:48:20 p.m.] Derrik G.: I just need the coding genious. I only have general knowledge.
  121. [06/11/2014 10:49:48 p.m.] Andres Macagno: oh great, it's interesting! Altough I'm kinda busy now with this (and videogames too. I'm developing a videogame like CriminalCase, for a TV channel here)
  122. [06/11/2014 10:50:53 p.m.] Andres Macagno: hey, I was thinking.. is your partner in China able to buy bitcoins for you? Or I don't know, which method should be the quickest for those $5k ?
  123. [06/11/2014 10:51:24 p.m.] Derrik G.: I'm gonna talk to her about it actually
  124. [06/11/2014 10:51:25 p.m.] Derrik G.: and see if she can send it
  125. [06/11/2014 10:51:31 p.m.] Derrik G.: let me know your paypal email
  126. [06/11/2014 10:51:39 p.m.] Derrik G.: she's not online now its like 8am her time at the moment.
  127. [06/11/2014 10:51:46 p.m.] Andres Macagno: The thing is, between the last week of november, and the first of december, I will have to pay a few things for my house. And the rest that you sent me, I was finally able to withdraw it
  128. [06/11/2014 10:51:49 p.m.] Andres Macagno: in uruguay
  129. [06/11/2014 10:51:57 p.m.] Derrik G.: nice!
  130. [06/11/2014 10:52:04 p.m.] Derrik G.: thats awesome that you were able to withdraw then so paypal is good to g?
  131. [06/11/2014 10:53:15 p.m.] Andres Macagno: Yeah, no problems so far. Now I've found this: www.advcash.com, they offer a debit mastercard attached to the account, and it's reloadable with Bitcoin.
  132. [06/11/2014 10:53:28 p.m.] Andres Macagno: It's a new company, so I will be testing it this month too
  133. [06/11/2014 10:53:38 p.m.] Andres Macagno: But that would be really nice for me and a lot of people
  134. [06/11/2014 10:53:46 p.m.] Andres Macagno: It's based in Belize
  135. [06/11/2014 11:10:31 p.m.] Andres Macagno: Hey man, I gotta go. I will be gone until monday. Please if you can, ask your partner if she's able to do something for this
  136. [06/11/2014 11:11:02 p.m.] Andres Macagno: I'm kind in a hurry right now for the payments I should be making that depended from that money
  137. [06/11/2014 11:11:23 p.m.] Andres Macagno: Do you think this could be solved by this month?
  138. [06/11/2014 11:11:29 p.m.] Derrik G.: Yeah most certainly
  139. [06/11/2014 11:11:32 p.m.] Derrik G.: We'll talk soon i'll keep in touch
  140. [06/11/2014 11:12:15 p.m.] Andres Macagno: Should I leave you my paypal/skrill/btc addresses just in case?
  141. [06/11/2014 11:12:33 p.m.] Derrik G.: yeah please
  142. [06/11/2014 11:14:43 p.m.] Andres Macagno: Ok!
  143.  
  144. Paypal/Skrill: andresmacagno91@gmail.com
  145. BTC: 14bCnzaQY7S9vL2nit3EbbfpPzLCq5ZYrF
  146. [06/11/2014 11:15:10 p.m.] Andres Macagno: I hope there's some good news when I'm back! Good luck!
  147. [06/11/2014 11:15:30 p.m.] Andres Macagno: If there's some update regarding this, send me an email to that address if you want
  148. [11/11/2014 03:04:41 p.m.] Andres Macagno: Hey Derrik! Were you able to talk with your partner?
  149. [11/11/2014 05:17:24 p.m.] Derrik G.: hey andres i did she's not gonna be able to send a whole $5000 up front she doesn't have that kind of cash i'm checking to see right now actually if i can do a international wire to her or if i'm limited on that as well.
  150. [11/11/2014 05:19:43 p.m.] Andres Macagno: Ok, please let me know. An alternative: when you or your partner buy BTC, wouldn't you be able to keep them instead of selling them instantly? And send them to me instead of the cash if it's so difficult! I'm sorry but I'm getting kinda nervous right now, since I'm seeing there are only a few days until I have to pay to the people who are working in the building of my house
  151. [11/11/2014 05:21:32 p.m.] Andres Macagno: I mean, these weeks I didn't care much because I had the amount you already sent to me, but now I'm really needing the remaining
  152. [11/11/2014 05:23:52 p.m.] Derrik G.: i'll try my best i'm gonna head to the bank now and see if i'm still restricted due to this audit.
  153. [11/11/2014 05:23:59 p.m.] Derrik G.: but i'll surely get it to you as soon as i possibly can
  154. [11/11/2014 05:24:44 p.m.] Andres Macagno: Thanks! Let me know please!
  155. [16/11/2014 04:34:22 p.m.] Andres Macagno: Hi Derrik!. Please talk to me when you're here
  156. [16/11/2014 11:55:22 p.m.] Andres Macagno: Are you around?
  157. [17/11/2014 07:25:31 p.m.] Andres Macagno: Hey Derrik, what's happening? I'm really worried. I've seen you online at the btctalk forums but you don't answer to me!
  158. [17/11/2014 07:42:41 p.m.] Derrik G.: hey andres
  159. [17/11/2014 07:42:49 p.m.] Derrik G.: i should have 1000-2500 for your here within this week
  160. [17/11/2014 07:43:01 p.m.] Derrik G.: i may show online but thats only cuz my profile stays open in my browser
  161. [17/11/2014 07:44:27 p.m.] Andres Macagno: I'm kinda worried (i've sent you a pm explaining), becaue I have a deadline for a lot of payments I have to make. Right now I managed to get some from my family and friends, but I have to return them the money eventually
  162. [17/11/2014 07:44:39 p.m.] Derrik G.: whew ok well tahts good
  163. [17/11/2014 07:44:48 p.m.] Derrik G.: I was able to scrounge up cash through bitcoin jobs i've done
  164. [17/11/2014 07:44:53 p.m.] Derrik G.: and sold some miners
  165. [17/11/2014 07:45:02 p.m.] Derrik G.: just need to wait for the $ to claer on this and i can send by paypal through my china friend
  166. [17/11/2014 07:45:08 p.m.] Derrik G.: i just got to WU her the money to do it.
  167. [17/11/2014 07:45:16 p.m.] Derrik G.: it should be by this week its not all of it but its close to half
  168. [17/11/2014 07:45:30 p.m.] Derrik G.: should be able to get the last half within the week after
  169. [17/11/2014 07:47:12 p.m.] Andres Macagno: i really hope so, since next week it's the final week for me to pay and well, I want to return the money to friends and family asap, I don't like to owe anything to anyone haha
  170. [17/11/2014 07:47:30 p.m.] Andres Macagno: but please keep me updated!! because i don't really know what's going on
  171. [17/11/2014 07:47:39 p.m.] Andres Macagno: unless I ask you a few times
  172. [17/11/2014 07:47:54 p.m.] Derrik G.: ahh well on the update my bank accounts are still frozen themselves
  173. [17/11/2014 07:47:58 p.m.] Derrik G.: and looks like they will be for a while
  174. [17/11/2014 07:48:10 p.m.] Derrik G.: so what I had to do was sell off my mining farm and use my salary paycheck that I get in bitcoins
  175. [17/11/2014 07:48:28 p.m.] Derrik G.: this wed I get paid and I should be able between the both get it into my china friends paypal and have her send you $
  176. [17/11/2014 07:51:25 p.m.] Andres Macagno: Wouldn't be easier maybe to pay that back in btc? And I could use the card from advcash to withdraw from an ATM. I mean, for me it's fine either way, but I just want the fastest way because of my deadlines
  177. [17/11/2014 07:53:00 p.m.] Derrik G.: if it comes down to sendin back bitcoin i should be able to do that without issue
  178. [17/11/2014 07:53:07 p.m.] Derrik G.: I'll have an update for you wed/thurs
  179. [17/11/2014 07:53:13 p.m.] Derrik G.: an let you know here on skype
  180. [17/11/2014 07:53:26 p.m.] Derrik G.: i've not been around on the PC lately been running around like a chicken w/ my head cut off these past few days
  181. [17/11/2014 07:55:43 p.m.] Andres Macagno: ok great! I'll be waiting for an update then
  182. [20/11/2014 05:10:12 p.m.] Andres Macagno: Hello Derrik! Any updates?
  183. [21/11/2014 04:27:48 a.m.] Andres Macagno: Derrik, you told me you would contact me today or yesterday :/ . I REALLY need the money now, I'm nervous. I need a few days until I can cashout everything because of ATMs limits, next week is the last week I have. Please, if you can't do Paypal/Skrill, just send me the amount in BTC. Although I will have to pay more fees, now I have a way to exchange them easily.
  184. [21/11/2014 04:29:02 a.m.] Andres Macagno: It's a lot of money here in my country, and it depends of a lot of things for my future. I've never had any problems waiting, you know that because it's been more than 2 months, but now I'm really in need of that money
  185. [21/11/2014 06:40:54 a.m.] Derrik G.: hey andres!
  186. [21/11/2014 06:41:11 a.m.] Derrik G.: Good news I can get about half of the money to you in roughly 3-4 days via paypal
  187. [21/11/2014 06:41:36 a.m.] Derrik G.: company paid me yesterday was only $960 usd worth but its in process of ACH to my new personal bank account I had to open monday
  188. [21/11/2014 06:42:34 a.m.] Derrik G.: sorry for not getting back to you was out running all day today but as soon as the ACH comes in I have it'll be between $1000-2500 USD and rest shouldn't take to much longer to get I know its a lot of money and I'm working as fast as the banks are letting me in getting it to you.
  189. [21/11/2014 03:52:47 p.m.] Andres Macagno: Isn't there any way you can send me the Btc? So I can start withdrawing from atms today with my advcash card. I mean, in your thread you say you have plenty of btc for sale. If I have to keep waiting so long it will be impossible for me to withdraw it all before the end of the month :/
  190. [21/11/2014 03:55:53 p.m.] Derrik G.: well thats the thing I actually don't have any bitcoin would essentially be buying it from an exchange using the clients money
  191. [21/11/2014 03:56:02 p.m.] Derrik G.: and my company pays me by sepa wire
  192. [21/11/2014 03:56:12 p.m.] Derrik G.: I think I could actually manage to get you some bitconi
  193. [21/11/2014 03:56:14 p.m.] Derrik G.: today
  194. [21/11/2014 03:56:17 p.m.] Derrik G.: give me a static address
  195. [21/11/2014 03:56:27 p.m.] Derrik G.: that I can use at anytime to send you a deposit
  196. [21/11/2014 03:58:40 p.m.] Derrik G.: trust me buddy if I could get access to my business account i'd have it all sent to you right away
  197. [21/11/2014 03:59:02 p.m.] Derrik G.: give me about until this monday or tuesday for a large lump sum of it
  198. [21/11/2014 03:59:08 p.m.] Andres Macagno: Oh, I didn't know that's the way you worked. The thing is, if there's maybe half of the amount in btc would be great so I can start withdrawing today until monday
  199. [21/11/2014 03:59:16 p.m.] Andres Macagno: becuase, we both know who much time it takes for banks
  200. [21/11/2014 03:59:19 p.m.] Derrik G.: and as for today let me see what I can do as far as bitcoin goes
  201. [21/11/2014 03:59:23 p.m.] Andres Macagno: until they process everything
  202. [21/11/2014 03:59:26 p.m.] Derrik G.: i may be able to get something
  203. [21/11/2014 03:59:37 p.m.] Derrik G.: but yeah for the most part thats how the whole thing operates I have how you say 'suppliers'
  204. [21/11/2014 03:59:50 p.m.] Derrik G.: essentially a middleman operation
  205. [21/11/2014 04:00:11 p.m.] Derrik G.: which thats what got me bit in the ass to and why my business banks are locked
  206. [21/11/2014 04:00:22 p.m.] Derrik G.: hmm
  207. [21/11/2014 04:00:28 p.m.] Derrik G.: i have looked into this bitlendingclub.com actually
  208. [21/11/2014 04:00:37 p.m.] Derrik G.: cuz i know you need the cash ASAP
  209. [21/11/2014 04:00:54 p.m.] Derrik G.: and its looking like its gonna be a while before i get access to my 30k funds in my business bank account
  210. [21/11/2014 04:01:19 p.m.] Derrik G.: it was about $4700 right?
  211. [21/11/2014 04:01:25 p.m.] Andres Macagno: do they charge a lot of fees?
  212. [21/11/2014 04:01:29 p.m.] Derrik G.: i know it was between 4700-5000
  213. [21/11/2014 04:01:35 p.m.] Derrik G.: uhm well its essentially me getting a loan out in bitcoin
  214. [21/11/2014 04:01:40 p.m.] Derrik G.: which i would just pay an interest on
  215. [21/11/2014 04:01:49 p.m.] Andres Macagno: $5185 was in total, but if it was via paypal it should be 5185 - 2.5%
  216. [21/11/2014 04:01:53 p.m.] Andres Macagno: for your fees
  217. [21/11/2014 04:01:53 p.m.] Derrik G.: which I dont mind doing since this is a situation I didnt mean to get you stuck in.
  218. [21/11/2014 04:02:22 p.m.] Derrik G.: but it woudl get you paid instantly and give me a way to pay it back over time
  219. [21/11/2014 04:02:29 p.m.] Andres Macagno: I really wouldn't bother you with this if I really didn't need the money now :/
  220. [21/11/2014 04:02:39 p.m.] Andres Macagno: you know I had no problems waiting these last months
  221. [21/11/2014 04:02:47 p.m.] Derrik G.: oh i know man trust me this is all my fault on this.
  222. [21/11/2014 04:03:04 p.m.] Derrik G.: so theres no hard feelings on my end trust me I know you need your money and you've been super patient with me buddy.
  223. [21/11/2014 04:03:33 p.m.] Derrik G.: i've been looking at tons of options I only recently got my paycheck yesterday every 2 weeks I get a 980 salary from my job
  224. [21/11/2014 04:06:10 p.m.] Andres Macagno: Yeah, I've never had any problems waiting when I didn't need the money, and I understand problems everyone can have with banks. I had a few problems too in the past, so that's why now when I sell bitcoin for something I need, I try to withdraw all the money from atms (the bad thing is their limits, that's why I need to start a few days earlier)
  225. [21/11/2014 04:07:28 p.m.] Andres Macagno: Here's my btc address: 1PVEKJfBXuW1dmBa1GcaHqNMHwSY3U37Uw
  226.  
  227. If you can do something about it, it would be great. It doesn't have to be the full amount, here for example they let me withdraw up to $2000 per day
  228. [21/11/2014 04:08:02 p.m.] Andres Macagno: So as long as I can withdraw a few hundred dollars per day it would be great. It could buy me some time next week too
  229. [23/11/2014 07:32:57 p.m.] Andres Macagno: Hi! were you able to get some btc?
  230. [24/11/2014 02:28:08 p.m.] Andres Macagno: Hey, are you there?
  231. [24/11/2014 08:12:08 p.m.] Andres Macagno: Derrik, man, I really need to finish this. I feel like you're ignoring me (worry)
  232. [24/11/2014 10:04:52 p.m.] Derrik G.: hey you here?
  233. [24/11/2014 10:51:46 p.m.] Andres Macagno: I'm back, I was out eating with the family
  234. [25/11/2014 01:40:28 a.m.] Andres Macagno: So.. are you around?
  235. [25/11/2014 01:41:02 a.m.] Derrik G.: yup yup i'm here
  236. [25/11/2014 01:41:07 a.m.] Derrik G.: i was able to get some bitcoin gathered up
  237. [25/11/2014 01:41:11 a.m.] Derrik G.: not as much
  238. [25/11/2014 01:41:19 a.m.] Derrik G.: but also my USD is hitting tomorrow
  239. [25/11/2014 01:41:33 a.m.] Derrik G.: let me get both paypal and a bitcoin address
  240. [25/11/2014 01:41:39 a.m.] Derrik G.: i'll send you over what i've got right now
  241. [25/11/2014 01:43:09 a.m.] Andres Macagno: yeah it doesn't matter if it's not everything at once, but if it is a few btc/paypal per day is better, so I can withdraw something everyday
  242. [25/11/2014 01:43:35 a.m.] Derrik G.: yeah for sure i totally understand
  243. [25/11/2014 01:43:38 a.m.] Andres Macagno: and it saves me time, because if I have to wait for all at once I will be wasting more time after that because of atms limits
  244. [25/11/2014 01:43:47 a.m.] Derrik G.: i've been busting my ass RL wise to get cash money for you
  245. [25/11/2014 01:44:02 a.m.] Derrik G.: PC work has been to slow and salary pay cut isen't helping
  246. [25/11/2014 01:44:22 a.m.] Derrik G.: only getting me about 400 per week
  247. [25/11/2014 01:45:04 a.m.] Andres Macagno: could you see something about that site where people can lend and borrow btc?
  248. [25/11/2014 01:46:40 a.m.] Derrik G.: yeah waiting verification for that actually
  249. [25/11/2014 01:48:02 a.m.] Andres Macagno: great, so now how much would you be able to send? so I can start withdrawing from atms tomorrow
  250. [25/11/2014 01:48:26 a.m.] Andres Macagno: kinda in a hurry now haha, but already explained
  251. [25/11/2014 01:49:52 a.m.] Derrik G.: kk can you resend me infos
  252. [25/11/2014 01:49:55 a.m.] Derrik G.: so I dont have to dig it up
  253. [25/11/2014 01:50:20 a.m.] Andres Macagno: BTC address: 1PVEKJfBXuW1dmBa1GcaHqNMHwSY3U37Uw
  254. Paypal/Skrill: andresmacagno91@gmail.com
  255. [25/11/2014 02:17:52 a.m.] Andres Macagno: hey, it's 2 am here, so I'm going to sleep, I have to work tomorrow. Are you going to send something now? So I can verify
  256. [25/11/2014 02:20:35 a.m.] Derrik G.: it'll be a little bit
  257. [25/11/2014 02:20:36 a.m.] Derrik G.: but yeah tonight
  258. [25/11/2014 02:20:41 a.m.] Derrik G.: can check an verify w/ me on skype in the morning
  259. [25/11/2014 02:23:14 a.m.] Andres Macagno: ok well, I'm going to work in about 6 hours, so if you could send me by then it would be great, so when I'm out I can got to the bank
  260. [25/11/2014 02:26:31 a.m.] Andres Macagno: I'm going offline, I'll be here in the morning. Please try to do that asap! Good night!
  261. [25/11/2014 11:44:10 a.m.] Andres Macagno: hey, are you there? i'm about to leave work in about an hour
  262. [25/11/2014 02:38:19 p.m.] Andres Macagno: tell me when you're around please!
  263. [25/11/2014 07:23:21 p.m.] Andres Macagno: hey man! what happened? i was expecting to get a few btc/usd this morning so I could go before banks closed
  264. [12:13:25 a.m.] Andres Macagno: i've been waiting all day, i don't know what else to do
  265. [03:37:44 a.m.] Andres Macagno: Are you around? I'm tired of trying to contact you everywhere. I've tried live chat and also I can't.
  266. [01:04:24 p.m.] Andres Macagno: Still waiting..
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