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The King's Council - Meeting 05 Log - 5 September 2019

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  1. [2:27 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Let's start.
  2. [2:29 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: First, let's follow up with what we committed to do last time
  3. [2:29 PM] Chaineh: Here's the To-do list from the meeting:
  4. ✅ Create channel for cross-social media queues
  5. ✅ Talk with ** about getting the KH3 audio rips
  6. ✅ "Friends of the KHDatabase" section
  7. ❌ gif resizing
  8. ✅ English titles with nihongo template in policy
  9. ✅ Worlds get long names, not shortened, fix that
  10. ✅ Instate SNOW alliance
  11. ❌ Get rid of all <font> and <center> tags
  12. ✅ Thank FinalRest
  13. ❌ Make Article Layout templates, and make a note in the MoS
  14. ✅ Create a "Level Grinding" page like The Keyhole.
  15. ✅ update various social media for holiday themes
  16. [2:31 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: I missed the gif resizing, that's on me
  17. [2:32 PM] Chaineh: So i think the ones with the checkmarks speak for themselves.
  18. [2:33 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Right
  19. [2:33 PM] Chaineh: I'm downloading the KH3 audio rips now, and can upload them when i get around to it I can.
  20. [2:33 PM] Chaineh: (i forget how to cross out text)
  21. [2:34 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: I think it's Text
  22. [2:34 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: ~~text~~
  23. [2:34 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Does ~text~ count
  24. [2:34 PM] Chaineh: thx
  25. [2:34 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Nope
  26. [2:34 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Yep!
  27. [2:35 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: So, so far, we'll need to upload the KH3 audio rips and figure out how gif resizing works.
  28. [2:35 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Excellent
  29. [2:35 PM] Chaineh: <font> and <center> tags are a long term project
  30. [2:35 PM] [BOT] Tron: Congratulations, @Chaineh, you just advanced to level 20!
  31. [2:36 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: HTML stuff is going to have to be an ongoing project.
  32. [2:36 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Yep
  33. [2:36 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: What layouts are we missing for Article layout templates?
  34. [2:36 PM] Chaineh: I think enemy? I don't think we made that many.
  35. [2:36 PM] Chaineh: We'd have to make a list of the ones we need.
  36. [2:37 PM] Chaineh: and implement it into the MoS
  37. [2:37 PM] Chaineh: I figured that that would be a bit more long-term too
  38. [2:37 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: We've got Worlds, characters, music tracks, albums
  39. [2:37 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Yeah, we need Enemy
  40. [2:37 PM] Chaineh: Enemy, weapons, games just to name a few
  41. [2:37 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Items?
  42. [2:37 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: We'd need to decide how to handle items eventually
  43. [2:38 PM] Chaineh: Do we break that down into consumables/accessories/armor/etc?
  44. [2:38 PM] Chaineh: Yeah, we'll discuss that on the talk page
  45. [2:39 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Yeah, that's kinda what my question was going to be
  46. [2:39 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: consumables vs. synthesis
  47. [2:39 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: I hadn't even thought of accessories/armor, etc.
  48. [2:39 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Abilities
  49. [2:40 PM] Chaineh: We can make a list on the talkpage too
  50. [2:40 PM] Chaineh: for easy reference
  51. [2:40 PM] Chaineh: The "Level Grinding" page only has the dive to the heart tables and section headers, and needs to be expanded. So it is created but not done by any means.
  52. [2:42 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Which reminds me
  53. [2:42 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: The Keyhole is removing a ton of pages from the old days.
  54. [2:43 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Is there anything that you guys created that you might want to get/rescue before they kill it off?
  55. [2:47 PM] FinalRest: i did the other day want to look at the naming and categorization pages I had written but theyve already axed them so :shrug:
  56. [2:48 PM] Chaineh: do we have a contact over there? It'd be nice to get our april fools jokes archived.
  57. [2:49 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Just the MechQueste character
  58. [2:52 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: I'm not sure how much I trust him.
  59. [2:52 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: So... I don't know.
  60. [2:53 PM] Chaineh: I can talk to him. Do we have a way to archive it?
  61. [2:55 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Umm...
  62. [2:55 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: We could look for somewhere to archive it.
  63. [2:56 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: I'd just be a matter of finding the best place for them
  64. [2:58 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: We can look into that later, then.
  65. [2:58 PM] Chaineh: right right. That can be decided later too
  66. [2:58 PM] Chaineh: yes
  67. [2:59 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: But in any case, if there's anything you can think of that you'd like to save, let's try to at least know what pages we want and work on that this month. Before more pages are deleted.
  68. [2:59 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Is there anything else from last month's meeting we want to review?
  69. [3:00 PM] FinalRest: not on my end
  70. [3:01 PM] Chaineh: no
  71. [3:01 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: In that case, I think we can move on to our first item for this month's meeting: End of Year Event. First and most important question: Do we want to do that this year?
  72. [3:01 PM] Chaineh: (update various social media for holiday themes: reminder to take down halloween and put up normal ones until December)
  73. [3:01 PM] FinalRest: Do we have enough people to do something?
  74. [3:02 PM] Chaineh: I still say no tbh
  75. [3:02 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: I think it kinda depends on what we want to do.
  76. [3:02 PM] Chaineh: also agree ^
  77. [3:03 PM] Chaineh: KSM: Wanna learn how to speedrun? We could do a speedrun twitch race
  78. [3:03 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Example: One idea I had toyed with was sponsoring some sort of Kingdom Hearts marathon or competition of some kind. That's less Database-related, and could garner interest from people not contributing to the site.
  79. [3:03 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: There's that.
  80. [3:03 PM] Chaineh: Ha.
  81. [3:03 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: I'd be down. Don't know if I'd be good at it, but sure.
  82. [3:04 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: knows he's gonna suck at it
  83. [3:04 PM] Chaineh: Same. I only can speedrun KH atm, and that takes about 4 hours on its own.
  84. [3:05 PM] Chaineh: it doesn't even have to be a race, just a run
  85. [3:07 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: That'd be fun.
  86. [3:08 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: One of the things I lament not accomplishing with last year's event was that it was supposed to include a challenge to race through the whole series before year's end.
  87. [3:08 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: For something like that, granted, we'd need to start sooner than later.
  88. [3:08 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: I'm down for a race generally with one of the games, though.
  89. [3:14 PM] Chaineh: (I'm taking notes for this meeting btw)
  90. [3:14 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Cool!
  91. [3:14 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: So, it sounds like we're agreeing on doing something more community-based if we do an End of Year Event, right?
  92. [3:14 PM] Chaineh: agreed
  93. [3:20 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: So, are there any other ideas for the event?
  94. [3:24 PM] Chaineh: I can't think of any atm, we could make a forum for dumping ideas. Streaming is my only idea for right now.
  95. [3:26 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Cool
  96. [3:26 PM] [BOT] Moogle: cool cool cool
  97. [3:26 PM] Chaineh: or maybe that map explorer stream we talked about?
  98. [3:26 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: OOH
  99. [3:26 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: YES
  100. [3:26 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: WE HAVE TO DO THAT, TOO
  101. [3:26 PM] Chaineh: though that's not much of an "event"?
  102. [3:26 PM] Chaineh: BUT YES
  103. [3:27 PM] Chaineh: I found more items recently :3
  104. [3:27 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: True.
  105. [3:27 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: But still
  106. [3:27 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Gotta add that to the to-do list
  107. [3:28 PM] Chaineh: mmhmm!
  108. [3:30 PM] FinalRest: Ive gotta go in 10 minutes
  109. [3:32 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Shoot.
  110. [3:32 PM] Chaineh: FR: We found a thing online that lets you explore the maps of KH and KHII, and i found really neat things and we wanna make a stream out of it.
  111. [3:32 PM] Chaineh: ( https://noclip.website/ <-- If you ever wanna check it out)
  112. [3:33 PM] Chaineh: All we have left to talk about is Ux, yes?
  113. [3:33 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Yep
  114. [3:34 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Basically, with the recent updates to UXC, I'm thinking we should look more into how to cover the game.
  115. [3:34 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: It's tricky with most of us not playing actively.
  116. [3:35 PM] Chaineh: i go in waves personally
  117. [3:35 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: I keep meaning to do it.
  118. [3:35 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: And then I don't.
  119. [3:35 PM] Chaineh: (its not that fun)
  120. [3:36 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: I go through phases where I get excited about the game's story, and then I remember how tedious the game is and give up before I even open the app.
  121. [3:36 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: It's.... sad, to be honest
  122. [3:36 PM] Chaineh: Honestly, i think the mentality we need to have is "If the game ended today, what information would we need/want the most"
  123. [3:37 PM] Chaineh: Like, the random events/medals aren't important
  124. [3:37 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: True
  125. [3:37 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: One of the ideas I had toyed with in thinking about this was maybe sponsoring/hosting a UXC party on the Discord.
  126. [3:37 PM] Chaineh: but knowing the very basics of gameplay, and ESPECIALLY the story would be good.
  127. [3:38 PM] Chaineh: i cannot join because im sworn by blood to another party
  128. [3:38 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Kinda like what you said just now, we really wouldn't need them to be gung-ho players who are raiding every day. We really only need a party of active people.
  129. [3:39 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Either that, or somehow get KHUX players in here talking about it somehow.
  130. [3:39 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: It's just so hard cuz the game's so lame sometimes
  131. [3:39 PM] Chaineh: what would having a party help with? The KHuX wiki exists, and would outdo us in every asepct
  132. [3:40 PM] FinalRest: I haven't played X and have no intention of doing so, so I can't help re: gameplay. But the story and character pages I think we should have and I could help with
  133. [3:40 PM] Chaineh: everglow is a great resource for helping us with that
  134. [3:41 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: True.
  135. [3:41 PM] Chaineh: and, of course, the khux wiki
  136. [3:41 PM] FinalRest: Anyway, I've gotta go. I'll come back later to read what I missed
  137. [3:41 PM] Chaineh: Bye FR!
  138. [3:41 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: By the way, I found out this week that the better resource hands-down is the KHUX Wiki. The KHWiki hasn't been updated in a while.
  139. [3:42 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: So then, in that case, what do we need?
  140. [3:42 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Bye FR! Thanks for coming!
  141. [3:42 PM] Chaineh: it has always been a better resource for KHux stuff, that's been the plan. :thumbsup:
  142. [3:42 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: So, we'll definitely want story
  143. [3:44 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: I guess as an aside related to story, I'm not a huge fan of referring to the main protagonist of the KHX/UCX/UXC saga as "Player". It's so... weird. So, if I'm wrong, stop me, but I've been using the terms "a Keyblade wielder" and such to refer to the main character.
  144. [3:44 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: I know where the term "Player" comes from, I just don't think it works very well in the context of a in-canon summary of the story
  145. [3:45 PM] Chaineh: How the khx story in KH3, and Back Cover relates to the in-game things. Such as "Fortellers were leaders of unions, which were divided up into parties. Vulpis was the best in the international version, because they were salty over Unicornis winning all the time in JP."
  146. [3:46 PM] Chaineh: the KHuX "player" conflicts with the already-existing "player" term we use for other articles. (Such as the one we usually replace the word "you" with in mainspace articles)
  147. [3:48 PM] Chaineh: Like, what's the difference between "[redacted]", the human with a ps4 controller that controls Sora in KH2, and "KSM" the little avatar that fights heartless in KHuX?
  148. [3:50 PM] Chaineh: - they're both described as "player"
  149. [3:51 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: There should be a difference simply because only one of them is portrayed as an actual character in the series, and the other is a moron that can smash a button or two.
  150. [3:51 PM] Chaineh: exactly
  151. [3:51 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: You sure you want to race me? We both know who will win.
  152. [3:52 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: The one who's not a moron and can smash more than two buttons simultaneously.
  153. [3:52 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: XD
  154. [3:52 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Anyways...
  155. [3:52 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: So then, is my approach of using the general term "a Keyblade wielder" okay?
  156. [3:53 PM] Chaineh: (I can only smash two buttons simultaneously too, if it's any consolation..)
  157. [3:54 PM] Chaineh: I think that's too general, and can describe more than one person in the series.
  158. [3:55 PM] Chaineh: Sora is technically "a Keyblade wielder" ya know?
  159. [3:55 PM] Chaineh: We could make it "A union member" and make it sound political
  160. [3:56 PM] Chaineh: "KHUx is about your right to unionize"
  161. [4:02 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: A union member wouldn't be correct all the time.
  162. [4:03 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: For example, in the scenes with Ephemer. Ephemer is intentionally not in the main protagonist's union
  163. [4:04 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: But I mean, we could discuss that later, I guess.
  164. [4:04 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Aside from story, what else do we need to cover in UXC?
  165. [4:12 PM] Chaineh: Basic mechanics. We can look to the tutorial quests for what we should cover. Def what skills and abilities medals can have.
  166. [4:12 PM] Chaineh: Perhaps a list of all the medals too?
  167. [4:13 PM] Chaineh: Since we'll need to know which characters appear there.
  168. [4:18 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: True.
  169. [4:19 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: I think a list of medals might be too big.
  170. [4:19 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: I was thinking of having a very simple page-per-medal kind of approach
  171. [4:20 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Without all the technical data. Because like you said, it won't matter if they shut down UXC tomorrow.
  172. [4:21 PM] Chaineh: That'll work. Should we have a Medal: space?
  173. [4:22 PM] Chaineh: and then go by character? So Medal: Sora would have all of the sora medals
  174. [4:40 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: We could try that.
  175. [4:40 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Sorry, I was busy for a bit there.
  176. [4:40 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: I'll play around with the medals for a bit.
  177. [4:41 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: SO
  178. [4:41 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Medals, story, mechanics. The first and third in a simpler take than the story
  179. [4:45 PM] Chaineh: sounds good to me
  180. [4:47 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: anything else?
  181. [4:49 PM] Chaineh: items?
  182. [4:49 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Oh yeah
  183. [4:54 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Also thinking of covering the Keyblades. I already updated the InfoKeyblade template this weekend for that.
  184. [4:55 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: I guess that should be good enough to start with. If we decide to go beyond that, we can discuss it later on once this is all done.
  185. [4:55 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: And if not, this should be good enough. Ultimately, the story's the most important in my opinion.
  186. [4:56 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: So, unless there's anything else to add here, we can move on.
  187. [4:56 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Is there anything else we wanted to touch on today?
  188. [5:08 PM] Chaineh: That's all i got
  189. [5:08 PM] Chaineh: i'll be sure to check out infokeyblade soon
  190. [5:09 PM] Chaineh: agreed that the story is most important
  191. [5:12 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Alright then, if there's nothing else, then we should be good to go for the month.
  192. [5:12 PM] Chaineh: Sweet! Here's the notes I took for this month:
  193. [5:15 PM] Chaineh: To do:
  194. FROM LAST TIME: gif resizing KSM
  195. FROM LAST TIME: Get rid of all <font> and <center> tags (long term) All
  196. FROM LAST TIME: Make Article Layout templates, and make a note in the MoS All
  197. On article layout template talk page, make a list of all templates needed, discuss how to break down "items" All
  198. Upload KH3 sound rips Chaineh
  199. Find a way to archive the keyhole april fools articles Chaineh
  200. Make details for EoYE: (Possibly twitch run, map explorer stream) All
  201. KH world map explorer stream Chaineh
  202. Create "Medal:" namespace KSM
  203. Take town current halloween theme from social media, and put up normal theme until December. All
  204.  
  205. Agenda notes:
  206. EoYE will be community-focused. Will need further discussion.
  207. Pages for KHuX will include Medals, Story, Mechanics, items, and keyblades
  208.  
  209. [5:19 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Sounds great
  210. [5:20 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: I've already switched out the Twitter social media theme.
  211. [5:20 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: OH, Discord. Oops
  212. [5:21 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Discord's done.
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