Zil	karisa / shimatora, are you around?
	Shimatora	hello
	Zil	has the thread i made been seen?
	Shimatora	I see no issue other than the tech stuff
	Shimatora	I always forget to check letters to the editors btw
	Zil	no problem
	Shimatora	If it's a touhou game it can have a thread, that's my opinion
	Shimatora	Whether or not it's an STG or w/e doesn't matter
	Zil	you mean, if it's a touhou fangame?
	Shimatora	Yep
	Zil	I feel that the space they take up is a problem, and things like touhoumon make more sense in tarc anyway
	Shimatora	How
	Shimatora	TARC isn't about games
	Zil	it's about fandom in general
	Shimatora	but touhoumon is a game?
	Zil	i think dividing between official / fandom makes more sense than dividing between game / not game
	Shimatora	Fandom doesn't describe a game?
	Shimatora	I'm really missing the point
	Shimatora	I mean
	Shimatora	Do you want fangames and official to be seperated
	Zil	what do mean? fandom can be just about anything. you have videos and music and stories posted in there
	Zil	well yeah, that's what i'm saying
	Shimatora	Yes, I didn't understand why Touhoumon belonged in there
	Zil	in tarc?
	Shimatora	I personally feel no reason to make the divide, official game discussion would be dead anyway compared to fan
	Shimatora	Yes.
	Zil	hmm
	Shimatora	Besides, we can't make the choice to add a new board for fangames.
	Shimatora	You need to suggest it to TSO
	Zil	that was the point of the thread
	Zil	but i don't mean to make another board
	Shimatora	 /they don't belong in TARC/
	Shimatora	The place to discuss Touhou fandom nonsense. Touhou game discussion goes on right above.
	Shimatora	TARC's description
	Zil	the point is that would be changed
	Shimatora	Not going to happen.
	Zil	to me, i don't see significant overlap between people who play touhou games, and people who play RPG fangames. their being there makes half the board something to ignore for people using it. on the other hand, i think there is more overlap between people who use tarc and people who play rpg fangames
	Zil	which is the idea of sorting things into boards
	Shimatora	I still don't think they should be changed. You'll be better off trying to persuade TSO, I'm afraid.
	Shimatora	There is absolutely no need to divide the community into the "secondaries" area and the "primaries"
	Zil	well, i've made the thread. if the higher ups will take to me, then we can talk. i don't want to go hunting people down
	Zil	i think you're mistaking my intentions, however. it's not about hating secondaries, it's about the activity on that board
	Shimatora	And official game discussion will increase if we divide them?
	Zil	perhaps. the way i see, the more activity slows, the more important it is that a thread remain visible for a long time. with a thread being made for every fangame that comes out, other things get pushed off the front page faster
	Zil	and the fangame threads themselves get little attention before being neglected
	Zil	that, and there's an abundance of immortal threads
	Zil	i.e. touhoumon, labyrinth, lennen, in addition to the immortal threads for official games
	Zil	so there's very little space
	Zil	it's not that i hate them (i love LoT, for instance). i think they're conflicting with each other
	Zil	it wasn't such a big deal years ago when the board was more active, but now it's more than half fangames
	Zil	maybe i'm wrong. it's just an idea to counter what appears to be dwindling activity