tofep: oh just the person i need
[5:02pm] tofep: adubbz
[5:03pm] Adubbz: Let's indeed bring this discussion in here
[5:03pm] Adubbz: Adubbz: "tofep: [04:32:06] self obsessed devs who didn't even want to look at the api weeks ago"
[5:03pm] Adubbz: [4:45pm] Adubbz: Sorry, check your facts before making such accusations
[5:03pm] Adubbz: [4:45pm] Adubbz: Also, don't be an entitled asshole.
[5:03pm] Adubbz: [4:56pm] Adubbz: Oh yeah, one thing to point out tofep, we're not self obsessed. But it's people like you who make not only us, but mod developers in general less concerned about the community.
[5:03pm] Adubbz: [4:58pm] Adubbz: Lashing out at us for a compatibility issue, which wasn't even our fault, definitely isn't going to help anyone's cause
[5:03pm] Adubbz: [4:59pm] Adubbz: Sure you can be annoyed, and give us a gentle poke so we can help you out, but being an entitled prick is just plain frustrating
[5:04pm] tofep: don't lay that on me
[5:04pm] tofep: i know what goes on with game devs especially indie devs and they stick to one rule for everything: help anyone who needs the help
[5:04pm] Banjooie: So, dumb question
[5:05pm] Banjooie: How do I get more research points, if I can only check any given object once
[5:05pm] iamamitten: I recommend a +ak for the ip range
[5:05pm] iamamitten: on principle
[5:05pm] iamamitten: but you're not me, so
[5:05pm] tofep: so don't lay on me how hard it is because indie devs have it damn harder than you
[5:05pm] • Adubbz laughs
[5:05pm] Adubbz: And you still expect support with an attitude like that?
[5:05pm] tofep: for weeks you had the api and only played with it 8 hrs ago
[5:06pm] tofep: 8!!!
[5:06pm] Banjooie: Um
[5:06pm] Banjooie: Okay
[5:06pm] Adubbz: You're full of shit sir
[5:06pm] Banjooie: I don't really know how to explain this to you, Tofep?
[5:06pm] Banjooie: But the release of BoP that has thaumcraft API support...
[5:06pm] tofep: No you are and don't deserve to be in the community
[5:06pm] Banjooie: Was released 12 days ago.
[5:06pm] tofep: no
[5:06pm] Banjooie: No...uh.
[5:06pm] Banjooie: I have that version.
[5:06pm] tofep: i had a look at it a month ago
[5:06pm] Banjooie: That's not 12 days ago.
[5:06pm] Adubbz: Thaumcraft 4 compatibility has been in since the 28th of August
[5:06pm] Banjooie: 12 days ago is not a month.
[5:06pm] Adubbz: How long is that again?
[5:06pm] tofep: i done the f***king list of aspects a month ago
[5:07pm] Banjooie: Okay, maybe you had it more than--I'm just looking at the latest release here
[5:07pm] Banjooie: The point is you can't say 'eight hours ago' because you are wrong.
[5:07pm] tofep: don't say you have it hard because i am sure week in week out jeb and notch have it 10 times harder than you
[5:07pm] Scorch_Mechanic: Banjooie: The easy way is to research the fuck out of everything. Hold down shift and research research research. The next easy way is to find aura nodes and research those. Those will give you more primal aspects.
[5:07pm] Adubbz: We updated the API 8 hours ago, but fun fact, NONE of our code was changed
[5:08pm] Adubbz: Once again tofep, i'm sure they do, but that's besides the point
[5:08pm] Adubbz: Stop thinking you have a proper argument there, you don't
[5:08pm] tofep: hate this bs that everyone in here has it hard and can only do one thing at a time
[5:08pm] Banjooie: Scorch: What I mean is, I researched mud.
[5:08pm] Banjooie: But now I can't research mud ever again.
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[5:08pm] Scorch_Mechanic: Banjooie: Finally, there's an artifice you can use to break down items into primal aspect points. It's slow and inefficient, but it's technically infinite.
[5:08pm] Banjooie: Tofep maybe you shouldn't be an asshole to people who do things in their spare time so you can have fun.
[5:08pm] Scorch_Mechanic: That is correct, Banjooie.
[5:08pm] Scorch_Mechanic: You may never research mud again.
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[5:08pm] tofep: at least think about the indie devs who have hardly any money and work into the early morning giving us the chance to test their games
[5:09pm] Banjooie: Also: Will I /need/ a TC4 biome at any point?
[5:09pm] Adubbz: For fucks sake, you don't have a point with that
[5:09pm] Adubbz: Stop trying to play the sympathy card for us with other people
[5:09pm] tofep: i am not
[5:09pm] Adubbz: We're talking about you saying
[5:09pm] Adubbz: Adubbz: Adubbz: "tofep: [04:32:06] self obsessed devs who didn't even want to look at the api weeks ago"
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[5:09pm] Scorch_Mechanic: Er... Well, I don't know how taint biomes work. There's some kind of biome called an "enchanted forest", but I don't know what it is.
[5:10pm] Adubbz: The matter at hand isn't about some indie devs nor how hard others work in comparison
[5:10pm] tofep: if you don't give a damn about anyone than leave the community because there are plenty more people who can fill your gap
[5:10pm] Adubbz: It's about you being an asshole to us
[5:10pm] Banjooie: Uh
[5:10pm] Adubbz: And expecting us to be happy and supportive towards you
[5:10pm] Banjooie: Tofep you got in their grill
[5:10pm] Scorch_Mechanic: I honestly don't know if I can answer that question to my satisfaction, Banjooie. I'm sorry.
[5:10pm] Banjooie: over an issue that wasn't their fault
[5:10pm] iamamitten: all I'm seeing is <tofep>WAAAAAAAAAAAH a mod I'm not paying for isn't updating HOW I WANT IT TO
[5:10pm] Scorch_Mechanic: If I were you, I'd start a new world.
[5:10pm] Banjooie: Mitten, it gets better
[5:10pm] Banjooie: It's already updated.
[5:11pm] Banjooie: Scorch: I'm okay making a new world. My concern is I have Biomes O' Plenty, and my server may end up using Worldborder.
[5:11pm] Scorch_Mechanic: Ontopic: Anybody know the aspect list for the Paving Stone of Travel?
[5:11pm] Banjooie: I am concerned for how screwed my fine folks may be if there's no Magic Forest biome within theborder.
[5:11pm] tofep: no wonder for the three days i was away why people hate the modded community
[5:11pm] tofep: three words: self obsessed kids
[5:11pm] Adubbz: Coming from you?
[5:11pm] Flutter: ha
[5:11pm] Scorch_Mechanic: Banjooie, I've seen a couple people with problems stemming from Biomes O' Plenty due to a recent version using the old API. I don't know if it's updated yet or not.
[5:11pm] Banjooie: ....
[5:11pm] Flutter: that's rich
[5:12pm] Adubbz: You sir, are the definition of self obsessed
[5:12pm] Banjooie: Tofep
[5:12pm] Scorch_Mechanic: I don't know anything about Worldborder.
[5:12pm] Banjooie: Scorch: Worldborder basically defines a circle
[5:12pm] Banjooie: and is like
[5:12pm] Banjooie: 'bitch you are not leaving this circle'
[5:12pm] iamamitten: you seem pretty self obsessed, tofep, while Adubbz is trying to point out your faulty reasoning
[5:12pm] Banjooie: thus keeping the overworld from becoming infinitely huge
[5:12pm] Amnet: Scorch_Mechanic: the last version using old TC api was released 2 months ago
[5:12pm] Scorch_Mechanic: that seems counter to the spirit of minecraft
[5:12pm] Adubbz: Scorch_Mechanic: BOP has been using the latest API since two weeks ago
[5:13pm] Adubbz: A released version that is
[5:13pm] tofep: no the true spirit of minecraft is in the minecraft community not the modded community who think they have it harder than everyone else
[5:13pm] • Scorch_Mechanic splays hands in gesture of peace. "I don't know anything about Biomes O' Plenty except that some people using an older version with the old TC API were getting crash bugs.
[5:13pm] Adubbz: For fucks sake tofep, again, this isn't the matter at hand
[5:13pm] Scorch_Mechanic: tofep, if I were speaking to you, you would know it. Piss off.
[5:14pm] Adubbz: We aren't saying others don't have it harder than us, but one things for sure, YOU DON'T
[5:14pm] tofep: it is exactly what it is because most of you are the "want to be centre of attention generation"
[5:14pm] Adubbz: Sitting on your lazy as and whining at us
[5:14pm] flappy: tofep, the true spirit of minecraft is automating shit : ^ )
[5:14pm] tofep: don't give me that flappy
[5:14pm] flappy: But it is.
[5:14pm] tofep: minecraft wasn't always modded
[5:15pm] flappy: You can automate cobble/wood/obsidian gen
[5:15pm] flappy: In vanilla.
[5:15pm] tofep: and notch was right to regret making the game modded
[5:15pm] flappy: Also, you can make spawners generate.
[5:15pm] Adubbz: Want the centre of attention? Pfft, coming from you, throwing around accusations
[5:15pm] flappy: Fully vanilla, mind you.
[5:15pm] Banjooie: Holy damn, Tofep
[5:15pm] Banjooie: Quit whining.
[5:16pm] Banjooie: Anyway Scorch
[5:16pm] tofep: if you taken the time to go to these expos and heard from what people say about the game is that modding ruined minecraft because most ideas now are from modded not vanilla
[5:16pm] Banjooie: The idea is if we do all the exploring on non-overworld ages, it means we can delete them and the server space guy doesn't go
[5:16pm] Banjooie: 'what are you doing oh god my hard drive'
[5:16pm] tofep: nothing is original and that what made minecraft special
[5:17pm] Scorch_Mechanic: Ah, that makes sense
[5:17pm] flappy: tofep: nothing ever is original.
[5:17pm] tofep: its when 1.2.5 came out, minecraft just went to hell
[5:17pm] Adubbz: tofep, you should probably get the fuck out of this channel if you're now whining about how modding ruined minecraft
[5:17pm] Banjooie: well I don't know, it's getting kind of cute now
[5:17pm] flappy: Welcome to simpsons did it: the person/
[5:17pm] tofep: if you all held your end of the bargain than minecraft would be a better game
[5:18pm] flappy: Which is?
[5:18pm] Scorch_Mechanic: I don't know enough about TC4's biomes to say for sure one way or another. But if you have ages, and Mystcraft uses the correct API, you should be able to spam ages until you get what you need.
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[5:18pm] iamamitten: +ak *@c122-107-48-49.blktn5.nsw.optusnet.com.au Minecraft went to hell when people like you started complaining about how OTHER people have fun
[5:18pm] tofep: vanilla and modded would work in harmony and if people chose to play modded than thats fine
[5:18pm] tofep: idc about if people choose to play modded
[5:18pm] flappy: How is that not the fact.
[5:18pm] Scorch_Mechanic: guys, y'all are feeding  the troll
[5:18pm] Scorch_Mechanic: just put him on ignore
[5:18pm] flappy: I know Scorch.
[5:18pm] tofep: its the fact that ever since 1.2.5, all these excuses were conjured up
[5:18pm] Scorch_Mechanic: Ahh, sweet silence.
[5:18pm] Amnet: I'm sorry, but I don't remember making any bargains when I started modding
[5:19pm] flappy: But arguments are what I feed on.
[5:19pm] tofep: the fact that there was so much work to be done
[5:19pm] Scorch_Mechanic: This is the wrong channel for arguments
[5:19pm] flappy: On what?
[5:19pm] Adubbz: Here we go again, for the fifty-billionth time, trying to bring the centre of attention off of the real matter at hand
[5:19pm] Adubbz: "tofep: [04:32:06] self obsessed devs who didn't even want to look at the api weeks ago"
[5:19pm] Adubbz: Back on topic!
[5:20pm] tofep: mods are so much smaller than the actual game and you failed to notice that
[5:20pm] iamamitten: actually.....
[5:20pm] • Adubbz facepalms
[5:20pm] tofep: only mod bigger than mc is portal gun
[5:20pm] flappy: hahahaha
[5:20pm] iamamitten: divineRPG, aether 2, to begin with
[5:20pm] flappy: It's literally a thing from Portal.
[5:21pm] flappy: IN MINECRAFT.
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[5:21pm] flappy: heyo fuj1n
[5:21pm] fuj1n: o/
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[5:21pm] Adubbz: Once again
[5:21pm] Adubbz: Adubbz: Adubbz: "tofep: [04:32:06] self obsessed devs who didn't even want to look at the api weeks ago"
[5:21pm] tofep: you didn't
[5:21pm] flappy: oh hey, Player's here too
[5:21pm] tofep: i seen the github adubbz
[5:21pm] • IceBlade yawns
[5:21pm] Adubbz: I'm arguing because you called us self obsessed devs
[5:22pm] tofep: the api folder was only tampered with hrs ago
[5:22pm] tofep: not weeks
[5:22pm] Adubbz: The APIs folder contains no code of ours you twat
[5:22pm] tofep: i done my aspect list weeks ago
[5:22pm] Scorch_Mechanic: Anybody got the aspect list for Paving Stone of Travel? I've got the earth and travel aspects, anything else?
[5:22pm] Amnet: tofep, yes, I updated the folder yesterday
[5:22pm] tofep: where is the thaumcraft api than?
[5:22pm] Amnet: but if you look closely - there were no changes in our code
[5:22pm] tofep: why?
[5:22pm] Adubbz: There's a difference between integration and an API
[5:23pm] tofep: you had weeks
[5:23pm] Adubbz: You're a moron sir
[5:23pm] tofep: so many others had weeks too
[5:23pm] iamamitten: +ak *@c122-107-48-49.blktn5.nsw.optusnet.com.au stop being a bitch
[5:23pm] Amnet: https://github.com/Glitchfiend/BiomesOPlenty/commit/39ee1ed874a4a6e6c7ac0924922af3874ed273ed
[5:23pm] Amnet: here you go tofep
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[5:23pm] Adubbz: August the fucking 28th
[5:24pm] Amnet: 1,5month ago
[5:24pm] tofep: that was 3.1
[5:24pm] tofep: where is tc4 api
[5:24pm] Adubbz: ARE YOU RETARDED
[5:24pm] flappy: AKA TC4.
[5:24pm] Banjooie: ....
[5:24pm] Banjooie: hahaha
[5:24pm] tofep: api is tc4 1.0
[5:24pm] Adubbz: 3.1 == 4.0
[5:24pm] Banjooie: You know 3.1 is TC4 right
[5:24pm] flappy: Fuck man, how do you not know this.
[5:24pm] Banjooie: you--
[5:24pm] tofep: idc if its 3.1
[5:24pm] Banjooie: I mean you're trolling right
[5:24pm] iamamitten: he has to be trolling
[5:24pm] tofep: the download is what i said
[5:24pm] flappy: Banjooie: I'm afraid not.
[5:24pm] tofep: i know...
[5:25pm] tofep: idiots
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[5:25pm] Adubbz: Good riddance
[5:25pm] • Amnet rolls his eyes
[5:25pm] Banjooie: Haha oh my god
[5:26pm] Banjooie: How did we go from the semi reasonable, if bitchy complaint that 'zomgs your mod doesn't owrk'
[5:26pm] Banjooie: to 'modding ruined minecraft'
[5:26pm] flappy: simple
[5:26pm] flappy: tofep
[5:26pm] Adubbz: I swear i had to drag him back on topic 5 times
[5:26pm] flappy: it's what he takes every argument to