<Musician> try to log in #pwn
<Liberation> #pwn unable to join channel (address is banned)
<Musician> im trying to remember how i did it 1 sec
<Liberation> sure.
<Musician> try now
<Liberation> ok i'm in!
<Musician> now if u guys intend on ruining these harrowers like that one where u released all those drags and another before that
<Liberation> why do you believe that we intend on ruining harrowers?
<Liberation> if there has been no new evidence then why would you suddenly be worried about it after we've already done one perfectly peaceful set of harrowers with you?
<Musician> speculation
<Musician> but kane isnt logged in atm so i cant get em
<Liberation> it is very irresponsible to post accusations on the forus like you did with only "speculation" as your evidence
<Liberation> forums*
<Musician> those reasons are true
<Liberation> what reasons?
<Musician> last 3 champs i did not get no plat - i dont mind someone recalling in to get plat at the end just not a habit
<Musician> but i seen a few  at ice and a few other spawns pulls the boss way off
<Musician> it was SL or TT but i dont know if it was intentional or new to spawns
<Liberation> xeggug and i regularly stayed for entire spawns. no TT members have "griefed" or "trolled" any of your spawns.
<Musician> i didnt say grief or troll
<Liberation> you did say "greif" and "troll" in IRC
<Liberation> listen man, i don't know what set you off, but we've been peaceably doing spawns with the guild and nothing more
<Liberation> then i wake up one day and this shitstorm has occured
<Musician> we all say stuff when we are mad - im sure u get mad too- u try working up 3 spawns and get squaddly dib from it
<Liberation> we don't all slander entire guilds, publicly kick them from our guild and ban them from IRC when we're mad.
<Liberation> i replied to your post: http://uorforum.com/threads/the-harrowers-this-week-may-23rd-has-beeen-postponed.10394/page-3
<Musician> well the main reason since all the champs where getting out of hand - i figured the harrowers where going to get bad too take a look at this
<Musician> http://uorforum.com/threads/sunday-night-harrower.8550/
<Musician> scroll down about have way to Mes's Video
<Musician> now i know u guys are great team and ive have several public harrowers get nuked before and i was taking precaution
<Liberation> this was posted after we had finished a perfectly peaceful harrower with the guild
<Liberation> it doesn't imply that we were intending to do it again. the circumstances under which we did it to begin with were much more storied than just "we want to grief"
<Musician> thats true - but the doubt still lingers
<Musician> anyways it was my bad - lets see how these 3 go
<Musician> we need 1 oak skull
<Liberation> and in any case, if you had taken that video to mean this, you should have PMed us to talk about it. instead you made the decision to kick us all from the guild, ban us from IRC and slander us on the forums.
<Liberation> we want to see a public apology and to be reguilded. we are not on probation, you are.
<Musician> u guys are unbanned but far as apoligizing nope
<Liberation> that is pretty petty of you. we will hold council on this and get back to you with our decision.
<Musician> it must hurt - but i want new folks to get plat - if it were to get raided no headstart for them
<Liberation> if you think you've hurt someone but are unwilling to appologize.. what do you call that?