1 chocolatepi Tue May 22 2012 03:05:03 AM
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2 chocolatepi Tue May 22 2012 03:05:04 AM
It is now Day 1!

3 chocolatepi Tue May 22 2012 03:06:26 AM
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4 chocolatepi Tue May 22 2012 03:07:08 AM
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5 chocolatepi Tue May 22 2012 09:06:22 AM
﷯

You are one of the top Problem Sleuth in the city. Solicitations for your services would be numerous, except that there are 18 of you. Compensation, dismal. It is a dull spring night. You are feeling particularly bored tonight.

What will you--

The building shakes. Your lights go out. Debris rains from shelves you forgot about.

﷯

You answer your cell phone, and decide to turn the earthquake ringtone off. Disguising your cell phone as a landline was the best use of a community college electrical engineering class you ever had. It's the last place your co-workers will look to find compromising contacts for various service professionals.

You turn your attention to the voice on the other end--it's Chief. You are too hard boiled to take orders from anyone named Chief, but sometimes Chief calls you when things get too hot. You sometimes think Chief looks up to you.

Sounds like things went south at the docks, big surprise. South is the only directions things ever go from the docks. Place is practically the north pole. Heh, north pole; you start looking for a pen to write that down, when Chief starts giving your ear the business.

Chief says Chief didn't tell anybody but you boys about the docks job, not even internally. You got rats, Chief says. Ain't nothing to do with rats but to kill 'em.

You say you'll glad Chief at leasts trusts you. Chief says of course he doesn't. That's why he called everybody.

﷯

Already gave the exact same conversation to all your co-workers Chief says. Didn't already get you by chance? (Accidently called a few twice, Chief admits.) You say no. Chief says alright. So everybody knows? Chief grunts. That's all you needed to hear.

You hang up your phone. Cell phone. Whatever. It's time to do a little house cleaning around the agency.

﷯

You grab your keys and head for the exit. It's going to be a long night.

6 Menace Tue May 22 2012 09:09:25 AM
Excuse me for a second guys, gotta go clean out the business Chief gave my ear. D:

7 Bill Door Tue May 22 2012 09:12:17 AM
Wooo! Let's get hunting.

8 chocolatepi Tue May 22 2012 09:15:53 AM
As always, feedback and questions are always welcome. (On new features or old) In a permissions-based system such as this game, you guys can literally see things I can't.

Email will always get a faster response than anything else. I am also unlikely to respond to individual private message logs. (though I do have access to them and will try.)

9 KaiDASH Tue May 22 2012 09:18:44 AM
@chocolatepi

Maybe make a @mod tag that gives you an alert?

Also a @(postnumber) tag that includes a hotlink to that post would be cool

10 Menace Tue May 22 2012 09:19:31 AM
And it seems that every time somebody makes a new post I'm directed back near the top of the chat/thread/etc. which is annoying.

11 Ashaya Tue May 22 2012 09:19:43 AM
Yeah, that is lame.

12 chocolatepi Tue May 22 2012 09:23:36 AM
Alerts of various flavors are on the todo list. They require skinned art assets.

The scroll bar should only ever move on its own in the single case of "sticking to the bottom". Hmm...

13 KaiDASH Tue May 22 2012 09:28:06 AM
testing #vote aekiel

14 Kalas Tue May 22 2012 09:30:26 AM
That work Kai or did it need the ?

15 Menace Tue May 22 2012 09:30:59 AM
Do we really have to vote in here when the lynch bar is two inches to the left?

16 KaiDASH Tue May 22 2012 09:32:37 AM
it didn't work.

@menace, doing #vote player should automatically put a lynch vote on them

17 KaiDASH Tue May 22 2012 09:33:16 AM
also @chocopi, when it's scrolling i get put to halfway through post 1 instead of the 'end' where i assume it's meant to go

18 Kalas Tue May 22 2012 09:33:24 AM
Well no but its easier for people going back over the thread to see who voted when.

19 Menace Tue May 22 2012 09:33:44 AM
Yeah, I mentioned that above, Kai. 'S annoying.

20 Kalas Tue May 22 2012 09:40:01 AM
So what do you guys think of the role changes? Chocolate did try to balance it out but I feel the changes make an easier game for scum then it does for town.

21 Menace Tue May 22 2012 09:42:25 AM
Eh, I dunno. The ratio of scum to town is about the same as last game, and the only thing town is guaranteed missing out on is Nun, as far as I know. All the other roles are pretty circumstantial (besides other Holy ones, of course).

22 Menace Tue May 22 2012 09:42:48 AM
The Court nerf is annoying as well, but I think we'll manage.

23 Kalas Tue May 22 2012 09:47:24 AM
Well Nun's a big blow. The Court Nerf is anything but, its the only part of this that makes the changes balanced from outright scum favortism.

24 Menace Tue May 22 2012 09:52:17 AM
Guess I was going under the assumption that we'd actually manage to roll a town!court this time. Good point, though.

25 chocolatepi Tue May 22 2012 09:53:03 AM
I have uploaded a client version that does not attempt to reset the scrollbar to "stick" to the bottom. This should be marginally less annoying; this is fully optional, and you will need to clear your browser cache to refresh to the new file.

26 Uncle Stojil Tue May 22 2012 09:53:41 AM
Unlike last game, when I go to "Game Log" and tick the "Vote List" option in "Detail Level", the stuff you usually see under "Basic" disappears. The page is completely blank at the moment, but I'm guessing it's because no one voted yet? Also, I'm interested in a quoting/linking to previous posts method, too.

Anyway, good game everybody. This new system will take some getting used to, probably.

27 Eidolonic Tue May 22 2012 10:13:01 AM
#vote Menace

28 Kalas Tue May 22 2012 10:14:11 AM
That worked.

29 Eidolonic Tue May 22 2012 10:14:24 AM
That works. And uh. Hrm. Constantly resetting scrollbar. That's more than a little annoying. Guess I'll clear cache.

30 Kalas Tue May 22 2012 10:14:57 AM
Its worth it.

31 Menace Tue May 22 2012 10:20:51 AM
That cuts me deep, Eido. Real deep.

32 Uncle Stojil Tue May 22 2012 10:23:23 AM
Uhm... I cleared it and nothing changed. Help?

/me is incompetent with technology

33 KaiDASH Tue May 22 2012 10:28:34 AM
aekiel got lucky to avoid my random vote !

34 KaiDASH Tue May 22 2012 10:30:47 AM
I wonder what happens if you vote for someone that doesn't exist

#vote randomsomeguy

35 bob99 Tue May 22 2012 10:34:15 AM
So is the dlp forum not being used except for game mechanic stuff?

36 bob99 Tue May 22 2012 10:37:26 AM
#Vote No Lynch

37 bob99 Tue May 22 2012 10:38:27 AM
huh, nothing displayed when I removed my vote by clicking. That should probably be fixed.

38 Menace Tue May 22 2012 10:39:00 AM
Not really. You can still check the vote logs, I believe.

39 Kalas Tue May 22 2012 10:47:04 AM
Vote logs are nice but it really should display in thread.

40 KaiDASH Tue May 22 2012 10:49:15 AM
hey we should put me on the court because i'm awesome

Vote logs in thread would be excessive clutter imo

@kalas 23: the court nerf was to address court being too powerful a town asset =p

41 KaiDASH Tue May 22 2012 10:51:18 AM
so to callback to last game, I think people who want to actively campaign for court should also push a lynch on someone.

#vote bob99

No lynch is the worst kind of lynch!

42 Menace Tue May 22 2012 10:52:34 AM
#vote Eidolonic

Because NO FUCK YOU.

43 chocolatepi Tue May 22 2012 10:58:29 AM
I'm working on the continued scrollbar misbehavior, though a fix will not be immediately soon. (worst case I sneak out a fix Night 1) In the meantime, I removed my D1 post images.

44 Kalas Tue May 22 2012 11:01:41 AM
@Kai: I understand that, Court needed a downsize to compensate for the decreased player base. What I was saying was that by removing Pauper/Queen/Duke scum will have a much harder time infilitrating (last game kinda being an anomoly) which is a good move on choco's part as it offsets the easier time scum will have in this game.

45 KaiDASH Tue May 22 2012 11:03:21 AM
point

46 bob99 Tue May 22 2012 11:08:51 AM
wth? that sounds scummy. I was testing the new system to see if voting was logged in the thread each voting method. And clicking in the voter systemdoesn't log it into the thread.So I'm voting for Kai.

47 Menace Tue May 22 2012 11:09:46 AM
Er, dude. I'm pretty sure he was just trying to provoke some discussion. But why dontcha defend yourself a little bit harder while you're at it?

48 bob99 Tue May 22 2012 11:10:36 AM
Oh, and clicking a user should also display the vote in chat. It is going to screw up searcing for vote tags if this isn't done.

49 bob99 Tue May 22 2012 11:11:47 AM
Oh, and I've got one game in on moscone, so I feel more comfortable knowing what is going on, so I think I'd make a good part of the court.

50 Kalas Tue May 22 2012 11:13:37 AM
Lol. Goes completely on the defensive over a random vote then says 2 minutes later what a good part of the Court he'd be. Nice.

51 KaiDASH Tue May 22 2012 11:16:26 AM
this feels very instant messenger-y

52 bob99 Tue May 22 2012 11:17:40 AM
I think its funny that you are attacking me for making it harder for scum. Right now you can vote in the voter list and not post in the thread that makes it a little more difficult for town. It seems kind of scummy to me. Besides why is a no lynch vote such a bad thing right now? I really don't have any strong impressions of anyone at this point besides you, and that's because you think that we should be able to vote without announcing it in the thread.

53 KaiDASH Tue May 22 2012 11:19:50 AM
bob99: we expect people to #vote in the thread. ninja votes are automatically scum and are not as ninja as you may think

54 KaiDASH Tue May 22 2012 11:20:09 AM
automatically scummy**

55 bob99 Tue May 22 2012 11:26:39 AM
exactly Kalas. Menace, vote logs are nice. And being able to vote in the thread is probably better since you can use search and town should alwasy announce in the thread. The problem is that I can't trust the thread. Because the voting logs might have more info. So if someone searchs the thread for vote tags and only uses that info, they are worse off. They might have missed information. One solution to this would be to just disable click voting. I think that would work nicely.

56 KaiDASH Tue May 22 2012 11:29:08 AM
it's a solution to a non problem.

the problem you're looking at is 'people are dumb'. but if you think people can actually get away with ninja voting... well

57 Geabe Tue May 22 2012 11:37:20 AM
#vote

Because post 49.

58 Geabe Tue May 22 2012 11:37:54 AM
#vote bob99

Seems like I screwed up formatting?

59 KaiDASH Tue May 22 2012 11:39:31 AM
#58 worked. need to have #vote (name)

60 Kalas Tue May 22 2012 11:45:54 AM
bob.. I don't understand the point your trying to make. That we can't trust vote info from in thread?

61 bob99 Tue May 22 2012 11:48:33 AM
What's wrong with 49 Geabe? Last game on dlp was my first game of internet mafia and first with a court so I said that I didn't want to be on the court. Now I want to be on the court and I know what's going on.

62 Kalas Tue May 22 2012 11:50:00 AM
Not trying to strawman you here but your post just doesn't make sense to me. No one is going to work of off one info source but you assume they are.. so your solution is we should disable click voting.

63 KaiDASH Tue May 22 2012 11:50:22 AM @bob99
@bob99 61: you

64 KaiDASH Tue May 22 2012 11:50:44 AM
(wow, that is fun)

65 bob99 Tue May 22 2012 11:53:11 AM
And Kalas, I'm saying that the voter info is incomplete in the thread. It just looks really scummy if you got caught. Voting in the thread means you are voting at that instance. It can change without notification. I'm just pointing out that the forum thread should not be used as a log. That's why I tested the no lynch thing. I wanted to see if thread logged everything. If it did, I thought it might be ok to work off of one source. I'm just pointing out that is not ok.

66 Geabe Tue May 22 2012 11:53:23 AM @bob99
@bob99: You say you will be a "good part of the court" just because this is your second game on the moscone client, and the second game with a court?

Also, explain "I know what's going on".

67 bob99 Tue May 22 2012 11:58:02 AM
The I know what's going on means that I have now played internet mafia once. The previous game I have stated that I didn't want to be on the court since I didn't know what was going on. I don't have any inside information from my role if that was what you were implying.

68 bob99 Tue May 22 2012 12:01:13 PM
As to why I would be a good court member, I think I would do a good job of sniffing out spies and suspicious behavior. I think last game my investigations helped a lot and saved some people. And I'm not Holy so I would be an accceptable loss in the night if the court gets infiltrated.

69 Kalas Tue May 22 2012 12:02:25 PM
Yet when you voted no lynch it still got bolded. We're fine as long as everyone just makes a post when they vote. Its very simple, very basic Mafia know-how. Yes Moscone does open up stealth voting abuse but seeing as we hace a secondary log that records that all a stealth voter will be doing is waving their little scum flag. There is NO issue here.

70 KaiDASH Tue May 22 2012 12:03:22 PM
i think claiming not holy is a great idea and we should all do it so the holy roles are clear to the witches.

71 bob99 Tue May 22 2012 12:07:45 PM @Kalas
@Kalas yeah the only reason that I voted No Lynch was to see whether or not it was announced when a vote was removed. I used the in text system to make the vote, so it was bolded. I didn't use the in text voting system in post 46 when I voted for Kai so it was not bolded. But you are right, it isn't a huge problem. I was just testing wether the hash tags could replace the logs, which they can't. Kai and I have just been going back and forth over this topic.

72 bob99 Tue May 22 2012 12:11:28 PM
@Kaidash I can claim whatever you want. It doesn't mean I'm telling the truth. If the coven doesn't believe me and thinks I'm holy, they can try to kill me in the night. But I think not being holy can be an advantage for a court position, which is what I'm campainging for. It's the Kings job to decide whether I'm lying or not. And besides nobody is sucggesting that everyone announce if they are holy, that is just idiotic.

73 KaiDASH Tue May 22 2012 12:16:14 PM
facepalm.jpg

going for court on a platform of 'hey random someking, decide if i am lying or not' is ...

74 KaiDASH Tue May 22 2012 12:18:07 PM
(disregarding that that is the premise of the game)

75 Kalas Tue May 22 2012 12:19:53 PM
LOL Kai. And thanks bob, stupid arguement but at least it makes sense now. Anyway I'm logging. Work for the next 8-9 hours, see you guys.

76 bob99 Tue May 22 2012 12:20:14 PM @KaiDASH
@KaiDASH, and explain why a No Lynch was really scummy then. I don't see it. Hell you voted for Aekiel to test it out and then voted to lynch non-playing player. It's the first day, I really had no idea who to lynch, so I would have been fine not voting to lynch someone. Then you came out with a totally bullshit reason to lynch me and that seems super scummy.

77 Geabe Tue May 22 2012 12:22:06 PM @bob99
@bob99: While I agree that you have quite decent sniffing skills, that doesn't mean we should trust you. You could just as easily be scum and using your personal qualities and/or claims to try and steer the King's decisions on whether or not to choose you for the Court.

78 KaiDASH Tue May 22 2012 12:22:30 PM
because voting to lynch people makes stuff happen

79 bob99 Tue May 22 2012 12:24:31 PM
See ya Kalas. And Kaidash, it was kind of basic but you needed a reminder. You seemed to think I was trying to get everyone to announce whether or not they were holy, and you seemed to think that I believed them.

80 KaiDASH Tue May 22 2012 12:27:29 PM
i think anyone talking about whether or not they or someone else is holy is strictly terrible.

81 KaiDASH Tue May 22 2012 12:27:48 PM
holy or non-holy

82 bob99 Tue May 22 2012 12:29:46 PM
@Gaebe That's nothing new. Better players are both better town players and better scum players. If I was scum I would want on the court. So obviously the king needs to decide whether or not I'm giving a town vibe. My reasons for being on the court are that I think I am a decent player and because I am saying I think I would be a good fit. I really can't say much as too why the King should trust me, that's his decision. And it's only the first day, so I don't have a lot to go on.

83 bob99 Tue May 22 2012 12:31:30 PM
I think you are a moron. Eid was a holy role last game and survived several nights because he falsely claimed the bishop role and asked for protection. So holy role claims are definitely not always terrible.

84 KaiDASH Tue May 22 2012 12:34:56 PM
fakeclaiming multiple things as part of a gambit is completely different to claiming holy / not holy

85 Geabe Tue May 22 2012 12:37:54 PM
Eidolonic's bishop/lover gambit is completely different from outright holy/non-holy claims.

86 KaiDASH Tue May 22 2012 12:38:50 PM
anyway i'm sick of this back and forth with the wall

87 KaiDASH Tue May 22 2012 12:39:14 PM
ops hit too early

(continued)

let's let someone else talk

88 bob99 Tue May 22 2012 12:39:34 PM
Not really, it was a strategic move. I'm letting the king know that I'm not a bishop or priest or any superimportant role for the town. I think that would be useful for the king to know. I'm not expecting him to belive me based on one statement...

89 KaiDASH Tue May 22 2012 12:41:22 PM
oh my god just stop

90 jwlk Tue May 22 2012 12:56:29 PM
lol, this moscone thing will take getting used to. Gah another problem is my phone doesn't support flash...I hate it. >
Anyways, lol Watching Kai and bob going back and forth is hilarious but probably not all that productive for us. I should probably go read the rules now before commenting on the roles...

91 bob99 Tue May 22 2012 01:05:36 PM
The Thief has been removed. And replaced with...

New role: Entertainer--"The first Night at least half the players are dead, you may select three other living players. If they are on different teams, the odd-man-out is killed. If not, you are killed."

That's the main role change.

92 Menace Tue May 22 2012 01:36:55 PM
Yeah, bob99, the main difference between your claim and Eido's is that Eido's was "mechanically sound". Now, his claim ended up being bullshit regardless, but it was believable at the very least, and ended up serving its purpose. Your claim has done nothing except draw suspicion onto yourself.

93 Klackerz Tue May 22 2012 02:26:10 PM @KaiDASH
Hmm, Let me try this out.

@KaiDASH: What's up

94 Klackerz Tue May 22 2012 02:27:38 PM
Is there any way to tell in this how many people have not posted or number of posts/player

95 StrikerLee Tue May 22 2012 02:30:14 PM
Well, A lot of posting to catch up on. You guys are at it already. @ChooclatePi nice work on the new system although a through testing I shall do tomorrow. I see some lynch votes out already and some people aiming for court. In the sense that most of us only have 1 game of Moscone under us (if I remember right that last one was the 1st test run of the system, correct me if im wrong on that) so honestly having some idea of this system isnt much because all of us have the same knowledge of it as well as new updates and such. For court we need people who can manage multiple levels of intelligence and be able to really pick out those scum. Town has less scum to find this time so it will be a little harder but as said before it is about even to what we had in the last game. I have some work to get done tonight so I will be on sometime tomorrow to post.

I dont really see a lynch target right now because its still early in day 1. I dont support a No Lynch by any means but will take what time I can to figure out who to throw my vote on.

96 KaiDASH Tue May 22 2012 03:24:00 PM
Ok, so some questions

Tonight, you must do ALL of the following (yes, your role is superman)

-Check if a player is in the coven
-Protect a player
-Kill a player

Who do you target?

97 Klackerz Tue May 22 2012 03:46:37 PM
Check a player:KaiDASH for obvious reasons
Protect a player:Kalas because he's the only one who seems not guilty from thos who have posted
Kill:bob99 cause he seems scummy and defensive for no reasons.

Also bob99 is the one I'll currently lynch.

98 Klackerz Tue May 22 2012 03:48:10 PM
Now off out for some 5-6 hours. Will come back tonight.

99 Eidolonic Tue May 22 2012 04:49:09 PM @KaiDASH
My internet is being awful, which is why my thread presence is much lower, sorry guys. Lessee.

@KaiDASH

I'd probably check me just to be safe. On a more serious note, I'd check my strongest scumread that isn't getting lynched day one. I'll re-answer this at end of day, maybe.

I'd protect, uh... probably you, if I can't self-protect. Or a possible king role-read.

I'd shoot, uh. Bob99 at this point, but I'm... pretty sure he's getting lynched. So let's go with StrikerLee.

On that entirely unrelated note #vote bob99.

100 Bill Door Tue May 22 2012 06:27:53 PM
#vote bob99

You got horribly over defensive over a rather joking vote. And then spent far too much time talking about a meaningless mechanic, like you were trying to deflect the attention on you. So yeah, you're probably scum.

As for Kai's questions:
I'd check whoever is the most active person on day 1, at this point KaiDASH, because we need to make sure that scum isn't leading the town.
I'd protect the same person because if he's town then he'll probably be the scum's first target.
And for a kill... I won't say bob, because I want to lynch him, so I'll get back to you on that.

101 Bill Door Tue May 22 2012 06:33:18 PM
@chocolatepi a few things abut the system.

I'm not able to scroll up and down using my mouse wheel, I don't know if that's just me but it's a little annoying to have to keep using the scroll bar.

Whenever I switch between my personal chat and this one it always goes to the top of each thread, which is annoying when I keep needing to scroll down. It makes it harder to make notes on things as I go along reading the thread, would it be possible to change it so it keeps your place in the thread when you switch between chats?

102 guljons Tue May 22 2012 06:43:17 PM
Kai are you really doing the same thing you did in the last game which allowed coven to find their JW?
Granted in this game it probably is a bit easier with what a 1 spy, that they dont need it, but really?
 I actually dont see you doing this twice in a row, but that is what you may be counting on.

And what is up with everyone checking Kai again? This is like a deja vu.
Chances him being JW fanatic again are admittedly pretty slim, but the start of this game is really pretty similar to last.

103 Sesc Tue May 22 2012 06:54:01 PM @Geabe
I want to point out, @bob99, that last game, you checked the same person twice. Decent sniffing skillsß Whatß Also @Geabe #77.

That said, I do not think bob is a witch, he#s just bob.

*The ß is a question mark, # a contraction, and the *( are brackets, explanation incoming.(

104 KaiDASH Tue May 22 2012 06:57:40 PM @guljons
foolish internation keyboards, am i right sesc.

@guljons: if i was a jw who wanted to connect with the coven, you'd be none the wiser

105 Sesc Tue May 22 2012 07:00:43 PM
@ChocolatePi, the same problem like last time. So unless ya#ll want to read posts like the one above, there needs to be something fixed. I#m not getting a different keyboard with an US layout just to play Mafia.

106 guljons Tue May 22 2012 07:01:17 PM
Obviously, that is the problem. Coven finds out who the JW are, but town can only guess if a message got through.

107 KaiDASH Tue May 22 2012 07:04:11 PM @Sesc
also guljons, seeing as you had a front row seat, my doing the JW-connecty thing was a completely different action to those questions.

And. You. Should. Know. It.

@Sesc So that's what happens when you type directly into the moscone chatbox, is it different if you write your post in say notepad or word then paste it over?

108 guljons Tue May 22 2012 07:16:20 PM
Emm, no it wasnt.
You did connect 2(menace and Bill Door) diffrently, but Sirion, Jwlk and your connection we got straight out of your questions. Same as these.

109 Sesc Tue May 22 2012 07:19:13 PM
@Kai Yes it is *works that way(, but it kinda defeats the purpose of having an in-built client, doesn#t itß



110 Bill Door Tue May 22 2012 07:21:14 PM @guljons
@guljons, we need questions like these to get the discussion going. Otherwise day 1 can be very quiet and that can lead to a no lynch. It will also allow the king to get some sort of a read on the players, so they aren't picking completely blind.

111 Sesc Tue May 22 2012 07:21:32 PM
The fuck, Moscone ate my critique o.o

Fuck you very much. I SAID I dislike very very much how twitter-y this looks. If Twitter were outlawed, the world would be a better place. Pro Forum-y look, with a large thread, and twenty posts per page.

112 KaiDASH Tue May 22 2012 07:23:11 PM @Sesc
@guljons

post #70 from wh 1 thread

'I'd priest check Lungs because I think his play has improved immensely recently, I'd kill OllieK to preempt any derp (!) and I'd protect sesc.'

Sure is lots of lies in here.

@Sesc eh can't win them all. I actually like to write posts in a editor so I have more chances to catch mistakes (by giving myself more time between writing post and hitting submit).

113 guljons Tue May 22 2012 07:49:13 PM
@ KaiDASH
It was not your own answers that gave us JW, it was theirs to your questions. The guy asking the questions does not even need to be scum as long as JW witches just use the situation.

To move along. I think I could be useful on court , but I know that I wont be picked so I am not really throwing my hat in there.

114 Aekiel Tue May 22 2012 07:53:33 PM
So yeah, I'm here. Bob looks like 50/50 Witch/Derp!Town so far. Besides, I can't remember the last time we caught a witch on day one. It just doesn't seem to happen with us.

As for the court... I want to be on it, if only to try and prevent another scum court.

115 Aekiel Tue May 22 2012 07:56:22 PM
As for the questions:

Check: Either Kai or Eido. Both for the reason of being prolific town leaders.
Protect: Either of the above, for much the same reason, and because I don't have a read on any roles yet.
Kill: Nobody standing out at the moment, so I choose Stojil. Just because.

116 Aekiel Tue May 22 2012 08:01:53 PM
Finally, I'm going to voice the idea that if Kai was a Junior Witch again (or even an Elder Witch) he wouldn't use the same strategy he did in that last Witchhunt game.

And now for bed and sleep.

117 Moridin Tue May 22 2012 08:37:08 PM
You never know, it would be a particularly daring gambit to try it. But tbh I agree, this kind of questioning opens up discussion - while it could be useful to the witches, it almost certainly is useful to town.

So far, I'd check KaiDASH, protect... either Kai, Eidolonic or Sesc and probably kill bob99. His derpery and tone kind of reminds me of Klackerz in WH1.

As for court, I think I'd be good for it. Aside from some stupidity in the last couple of days, I did a decent enough job with WH1, I think.

118 Menace Tue May 22 2012 09:18:29 PM
Alright, I'm heading off to school, but I really don't like the way bob99 faded into lurk-scurity after that spat with Kai. So for now...

#vote bob99

Also:

Check: Eidolonic, because fuck this guy.
Protect: Probably KaiDASH, because he's been the most active in this thread while acting a bit differently than when he was mah JW buddy.
Kill: StrikerLee. Because stuff.

119 Ashaya Tue May 22 2012 09:33:46 PM
Well that's a lot of random fuckery.
-Check if a player is in the coven: Eidolonic or KaiDASH
-Protect a player: Sesc.
-Kill a player: Castiel lololol

120 KaiDASH Tue May 22 2012 09:45:08 PM @Uncle Stojil
@Uncle Stojil

Talk about the bob99 wagon?

121 castiel Tue May 22 2012 09:57:02 PM
#vote bob99

Check: if he isn't lynched, Bob, if he is, Eido.
Protect: Kai
Kill: I was going to say no one but now, Ash (y u hate me? :()

122 castiel Tue May 22 2012 10:00:48 PM
Also, @chocolatepi, how about showing newest messages first? Scrolling down on a laptop is a pain in the ass.

123 Ashaya Tue May 22 2012 10:02:37 PM
@Castiel: always remember, never forgive ;p

124 KaiDASH Tue May 22 2012 10:05:45 PM
ashaya is an elephant, trufax

125 Sesc Tue May 22 2012 10:10:59 PM
No. Leave the messages in this order, and add the arrow keys and beginning&end key for scrolling.

Also, I really, really doubt bob99 is a witch. Am I the only one remembers last gameß I#d rather look at the bandwagon, not at bob99, and in fact, that#s what I#ll do right now.


& EQUALS slash
ß EQUALS question mark
# EQUALS contraction

126 Eidolonic Tue May 22 2012 10:11:02 PM
Fucking internet.

So, uh. I'd rather not get priest checked, since... I'm town. And. Yeah. That'd be a waste?

I have a pounding headache and it's a pain in the ass to really read through this.

Only thing that really jumps out at me is Aekiel saying he'd kill Stojil. Since when is it ever a good idea to kill potentially strong town assets night one. Especially in a game with... some of the players in this game. Who my headache makes me want to shoot just so I don't have to read their goddamn posts.

Good news, anyways. I'm not the king. So maybe the court won't have multiple scum on it.

Put me on the court if you want, I'll do useful things, but I'm probably also getting shot relatively early. So, whatever.

Uh. No nun with 18 players is going to be potential fuckery. Inquisitor needs to make it to the halfway point, and not be scum, to verify bishop claims. Or maybe I'm a bishop lover or something, trololol.

Uhhh. Fuck my head hurts. Ollie hasn't made me want to shoot him for being a derp yet, maybe he's lurking scum. If StrikerLee posts anything that makes sense, I want him shot for being coached (and scum). Bleh. Fuck all the things. Your show, Kai, I'm going back to work.

127 KaiDASH Tue May 22 2012 10:15:44 PM
Just a note guys: If you're gonna request features/suggest changes, do it in your personal chat or in the DLP general thread rather than here.

128 Ashaya Tue May 22 2012 10:20:40 PM
I'm going to bed. I hope you guys don't lynch bob99 while I sleep.

129 castiel Tue May 22 2012 10:31:40 PM @Ashaya
@Ashaya I tried to kill you once, more than 10 games ago, and you did not even die. Learn to let go. :P

130 chocolatepi Tue May 22 2012 11:05:17 PM @Bill Door
@Bill Door
I am working on scrolling stuff at this moment, since that seems to be the main area of issue. Catching mouse scroll events is included in this, I was just reviewing the documentation on it now.

131 chocolatepi Tue May 22 2012 11:07:45 PM @Sesc
@Sesc
I have found the tools for keyboard locale handling, and will integrate accordingly soon.

132 Geabe Wed May 23 2012 12:18:01 AM
To answer KaiDASH's questions way earlier.

To Check: KaiDASH, or Eidolonic at this point.
To Protect: KaiDASH, or Sesc, also at this point.
To focus my Rifle on: Not too sure at this point. I'll get back to this question later in the Day.

133 StrikerLee Wed May 23 2012 01:10:13 AM
Yeah, KaiDASH to answer your question

Check: Either KaiDASH or Sesc
Protect: Ashaya just cause I fell like it
Kill: this is the easy one, bob99.

I just got done going over the posts I missed from last night and I'm wondering wtf. bob99 you need to defend yourself better then that...

134 StrikerLee Wed May 23 2012 01:10:37 AM
#vote bob99

135 Sesc Wed May 23 2012 02:01:41 AM
@ChocolatePi: Thanks!

c/p pasted from notepad, because wtf.

Uh, 7 votes for bob99? Of 10? Isn't this way too easy? If you take Kai's vote as "let's put a vote out there" and Eidolonic's as his usual "vote for stuff to see what happens", then Geabe is already suspicious (the reasoning #58 #66 is bullshit, sorry). And the same goes for BillDoor & co.

And Geabe's declaration of bob99's hunting skillz is ... wuuuuuuuut. So.

#vote Geabe

Just to make a point.

136 Geabe Wed May 23 2012 02:15:10 AM @Sesc
@Sesc: Well, he did sniff out holy roles.

137 Sesc Wed May 23 2012 02:21:00 AM @Geabe
@Geabe: He checked the same person for holiness twice.

138 Geabe Wed May 23 2012 02:22:04 AM @Sesc
@Sesc: That aside, which was just plain dumb.

139 Sesc Wed May 23 2012 02:25:07 AM @Geabe
@Geabe: Yes, derps aside, he was grandiosly free of derps, indeed.

140 Geabe Wed May 23 2012 02:28:53 AM @Sesc
@Sesc: Didn't say he was. All I implied was that he managed to sniff out holy roles. Nothing more.

141 Sesc Wed May 23 2012 02:42:56 AM @bob99
...?
No? You said he was good at it: "@bob99: While I agree that you have quite decent sniffing skills ..."
^ That's you.

I'm saying, no, he does not. Do we have a different definition of "decent" (like, my decent means decent and yours the opposite)?

And that's still not addressing the real problem, namely the stupid lynch vote on bob. The reason to vote for him is because you want the derps to go away, not because he could possibly have made an attempt to get Witch!bob onto court (that wasn't even an attempt to get Town!bob onto the court, it was just bits of random nonsense).

142 Bill Door Wed May 23 2012 03:02:10 AM
I didn't vote for bob because of his attempt to get on the court, I voted for him because he got uneccessarily over-defensive when Kai put a less than serious vote on him.

143 jwlk Wed May 23 2012 03:58:47 AM
I'm gonna have to pull out guys. Sorry. My phone isn't compatible with the (latest?) flash version this client is using. And the phone is where I mostly play mafia from. How does the replacement thing work?

144 bob99 Wed May 23 2012 04:13:06 AM
Yeah, I probably got a little bit over defensive. I just think that Kai's vote was bullshit, and was expecting a little more reasoning. @sesc. That was from inactivity. It was a shorter day and I was somewhat inactive, so my vote didn't get changed.

145 bob99 Wed May 23 2012 04:16:11 AM
So anyway it looks like I'm the only person under suspicion here. Gaebe has one other vote, and I voted for Kai. So does anyone else have some strong reads.

146 guljons Wed May 23 2012 04:33:55 AM
I could say StrikerLee just to be consistent.

147 Eidolonic Wed May 23 2012 05:16:02 AM
Post 133, from StrikerLee.

If it was anyone else, I'd completely dismiss it as being possible, but, uh.

This doesn't make me feel very good about Ash this game.

Unless he thinks she's still the priest.

148 Menace Wed May 23 2012 05:34:17 AM
You mean roles don't carry over in games? :O

149 Aekiel Wed May 23 2012 05:40:07 AM
@Eidolonic: It was a joke. I've voted for Stojil on the first day a bunch of times now so it's become kind of a habit.

150 StrikerLee Wed May 23 2012 06:00:26 AM
Well I figured it would be a good place to start off. Protecting someone this early is always hard because we really have no idea who could be what. And my vote went to bob because of his over reaction to the original vote put on him. I dont feel she is the priest but I do have somewhat of a town read on her from previous games. Have to head to work now so will be back in a few hours.

151 Menace Wed May 23 2012 06:03:54 AM
I think Eido's suspicious of you because Ashaya hasn't really posted all that much in this thread, and it wouldn't be necessary anyway. Why would scum kill her when she can troll town for them? :P

152 guljons Wed May 23 2012 06:09:42 AM
@ StrikerLee
You have a town read on her from previous games? As in you think she is town, because she was town before or do you think she has acted in similar way, she acted in previous game when she was town?

153 Bill Door Wed May 23 2012 06:10:48 AM @StrikerLee
@StrikerLee How can you have a town read on her from previous games? Other games have no relevnace on whether or not she's town in this one.

154 bob99 Wed May 23 2012 06:11:55 AM
You do have a good point Menace. I really didn't read that much into it since Ash hasn't posted that much and it was early in the game. But I do see the coven wanting her in the game with her previous history of trolling.

155 Bill Door Wed May 23 2012 06:11:55 AM
...and guljons stole the words out of my head.

 Crazy ninja.

156 StrikerLee Wed May 23 2012 06:24:19 AM @Bill Door
@guljons Its because she was town before and acted it. I know she hasnt posted much, and yes I do agree with Menace in post 151 that it would be pointless for scum to kill her right now. I just answered a simple question, based on what I know from prior games I made a call on it. We dont know anything about anyone yet so we have to just go off our best judgement which is what I did.

@Bill Door its not that I have a solid town read on her, its that due to lack of posting, and with seeing what happened last game. I would assume she probably has either a boring role that doesnt require much use and is town, or is scum just sitting back letting us go at each other. Either way right now its to early to tell.

And yes you 2 are Ninjas cause I figured a question like that would come up. I have to go to work now so I will catch up on things later on when I get home.

157 Klackerz Wed May 23 2012 06:34:54 AM
Hmm. The bandwagon on bob99 seems to be strong, But I really don't want on him just now. He seems to be the only suspect I currently have and I don't really know about the other people just now,

158 Klackerz Wed May 23 2012 06:36:51 AM
"And yes you 2 are Ninjas cause I figured a question like that would come up"

WTF does that mean?

159 Menace Wed May 23 2012 06:40:30 AM
Really, StrikerLee? Ashaya is the person you'd protect over any of the people actually posting even though you've admitted the only reason you chose her is because she was town last game and she's acting the same way this game (even though she's only had a handful of posts so far)?

Quit white knighting, bro.

160 Kalas Wed May 23 2012 07:00:23 AM
"I would assume she probably has either a boring role that doesnt require much use and is town, or is scum just sitting back letting us go at each other. Either way right now its to early to tell."

And your answer to the scum/unimportant player quesiton would be to blow Night 1 protection on her? Its like your thoughts did a complete 180 from your first couple of posts. Anyway:

Check: Moving away from the Kai/Eid autoresponse I'd say Castiel. He can be a suprisingly good player when he isn't bandwagon'd to all fuck.

Protect: Eid, no two ways around it. One of the best Town players I have ever met.

Kill: Right now? Striker, for continuing the derp traidition.

161 Uncle Stojil Wed May 23 2012 07:08:56 AM
@

The wagon on bob99 looks clean to me at the moment. With the possible exception of Castiel (and his check-targets), all the other votes feel like bandwagoning town more than scum and at first, town trying to gauge reactions. What I don't like much is Kalas' interaction with bob99 and his non-vote.

This said, I'm not sure on bob's scumminess. I had a derp-town-read on him but the fact I don't think there's scum piled on his wagon makes him reek more. Post #154 doesn't help. "Oh, you guys might be right. That was really scummy of Striker! Don't you agree?" *hint-hint*"

@

I call bullshit. I can't remember you voting to lynch me on the first day, ever, except maybe Dresden1, and that was my first game, it hardly counts (certainly not as a "habit"). I remember you mentioning me as your target for protection twice, instead.

As for StrikerLee's coherence, I was his spy-buddy in last game and no one ever coached him as far as doctoring posts. If you've read our QT, his posts started making some sense when he decided to. To give him at least that much credit, he understood that DLP judged form as well as content and corrected it on his own (mid-game and scummily, I might add). It's still not close to good, but it has improved. It doesn't mean anything game-wise, IMO.

As for the content, the mention of Ashaya is suspicious. The explanation for said mention is suspicious (and terribad). I would think it's just his derpiness carrying over to this second game... if the connection was to anyone but Ashaya. He really wanted her dead in WH. Sure, it could be that he was burned enough by her Priest role-reveal that he's overly cautious now, but this came so out of left field that it makes me more than a little wary.

162 Uncle Stojil Wed May 23 2012 07:10:46 AM @Aekiel
I messed up, somehow.

The first @ is directed at Kai, the second at Aekiel.

Let's test it again.

@KaiDASH
@Aekiel

@
@

163 Uncle Stojil Wed May 23 2012 07:11:35 AM
;_;

164 bob99 Wed May 23 2012 07:23:47 AM @Uncle Stojil
@Uncle Stojil So who do you have a strong scum read on if you think my bandwagon is clean? I'm curious because I think that there is a good probability the gravedigger will verify my status as town later, so I would find it very helpful if I could pick out the scum in my bandwagon now.

165 Uncle Stojil Wed May 23 2012 07:39:05 AM
How did you do that @ thing?

I'm... not sure I understand your post, but here's my answer anyway. If you were lynched and turned out to be town, I would look mostly into Castiel. After that, Striker (for other reasons as well) and maybe Geabe. Kalas would be scummy no matter what you are.

166 Bill Door Wed May 23 2012 07:42:42 AM @Uncle Stojil
You do @name

e.g @Uncle Stojil

It seems like you are the only person with the problem.

167 bob99 Wed May 23 2012 07:43:56 AM
So what do you find so suspicious about Kalas then? I don't really have a strong read on him.

168 Eidolonic Wed May 23 2012 07:56:05 AM
I have a scum read on Kalas from last game.

StrikerLogic

169 Eidolonic Wed May 23 2012 07:59:10 AM
Also, Stojil not calling me scum makes me wary of him. What is this madness.

170 Uncle Stojil Wed May 23 2012 07:59:21 AM
...

I used and the player's name in between.

Anyway, the interaction between you and Kalas is weird, mostly because of him. Go back and reread his posts, first accusing you, then talking with you about something that, frankly, was to be ignored in light of other things you had said and done, then interjecting in your fight with Kai and finally not voting.

King Eido, pick me for the Court!

/StrikerLogic

171 Uncle Stojil Wed May 23 2012 08:00:29 AM
Fuck. The first sentence should be: "I used and the player's name in between.

I'm starting to hate this.

172 Uncle Stojil Wed May 23 2012 08:00:54 AM
FUUUUUUUUUU

Ignore me.

173 Eidolonic Wed May 23 2012 08:01:28 AM
If I'd gotten King for the third time in four games, I'd have replaced out. Seriously.

174 Eidolonic Wed May 23 2012 08:06:17 AM
Also, remember that nights are only 12 hours, folks. So if you have night actions, try to pre-queue them, so you don't miss out.

175 Ashaya Wed May 23 2012 08:52:46 AM
#vote Geabe because Sesc is one of the few people I get a good feeling from, and bob99's wagon is dumb.

176 Ashaya Wed May 23 2012 08:53:33 AM
Also, I'd like to be on court, so that scum doesn't fuck it up again. :3

177 Sesc Wed May 23 2012 10:00:28 AM
What I'm missing is a handy way to see who posted how many times, or does that exist and I missed it?

It seems, in any case, as if Ollie has yet to post, so wtf. Stop lurking.

178 Sesc Wed May 23 2012 10:02:08 AM @Ollie
Make that @Ollie, to have it flash red in his face >P

179 Ashaya Wed May 23 2012 10:57:43 AM @Uncle Stojil
This definitely feels too much like a chat for me. Also, wtf were you talking about, @Uncle Stojil?

180 KaiDASH Wed May 23 2012 11:19:00 AM @Sesc
@Sesc

It exists, but it's not an obvious thing.

When you search for someone by name ('player from') and all other fields are default, you get only posts from that player. If you scroll all the way down, you get how many messages total (for example, atm you have 11 messages total)

181 Uncle Stojil Wed May 23 2012 11:23:57 AM
Ashaya wants to be on Court because Court fucked up.

OH, TEH IRONY!

But to answer you question, I was just trying to use the (tag?) symbol before and after the name of the player I wanted to nickalert. Finally, I realized they don't appear in the log, not even when nothing is put in between them or when you separate them with a space. So that sentence in my mind should have been: "I used (tag symbol) and the player's name in between and that's why it didn't work" or something like that.

182 KaiDASH Wed May 23 2012 11:25:59 AM @Uncle Stojil
@Uncle Stojil

Tag works, just you can't tag more than 1 person per post

183 Uncle Stojil Wed May 23 2012 11:32:47 AM
@

Thanks. Methods to quote/link to other posts?

184 Uncle Stojil Wed May 23 2012 11:33:50 AM
Why did it fail again? *sigh* I don't care anymore.

185 KaiDASH Wed May 23 2012 11:35:34 AM
You're putting in @(name) right?

Currently no way to link to a post, just mention post number or something like that

186 KaiDASH Wed May 23 2012 11:43:20 AM @bob99
@bob99 Looks like you're getting lynched maybe! (Probably?)

I don't really like that state of events, so bob, your job as a good and proper towny is to find someone else that is maybe probably scum!

187 KaiDASH Wed May 23 2012 11:44:39 AM
I also want to hear more from

Ollie, Castiel, Kalas, Menace and... strikerlee (because why not)

Let's go with a town read, scum read and lynch vote on someone not bob99.

188 castiel Wed May 23 2012 12:15:58 PM
@Kai

Too early to tell, at best I can speculate. Last game I was so sure Ash was scum and she turns out to be the fucking Priest. I don't want to make a mistake like that again.

Anyways,

Town: Uncle Stojil

Scum: either Striker (for the #Strikerlogic) or bob (for the derp at the start), but not enough on any-one to warrant a lynch.

Since I don't like no-lynch, I will vote for whoever has the most votes already, hence: Lynch: bob

189 Kalas Wed May 23 2012 12:37:07 PM @Uncle Stojil
I think we'd all like to hear from Ollie Kai, anway:

Town: Stojil. He's trying to scumhunt with which is great to see, despite having me pegged as scum. Post 165 has me confused tho.

@Uncle Stojil: If I'm scummy no matter what bob is wouldn't you be better off making a stronger case against me?

Scum: KaiDash/Eid. Day 1 is, imo, developing how Day 1 of the last game did and that's understandably ringing some bells. The only real difference is no real second strong 'town' voice from another player.

@Eid: Was it you who mentioned a correlation between scum and one long post then disapearing in Angel chat?

Vote: Eid or Stiker. Some pressure on either of them would go a long ways to clarifying my thoughts on them.

190 Eidolonic Wed May 23 2012 12:52:20 PM
If you think I've made a long post this game, you haven't actually read anything I've ever posted in other games.

I've been on the goddamn phone with work faggotry all day and my head is fucking killing me.

I want to shoot and strangle all the things, and that is not beneficial for mafia posting.

Priest, don't check me. I'm town, and I'll prove my town-ness in coming days. Seriously.

There is a notable correlation between infrequent carefully crafted posts and lurking for scum, yes. But that's generally something to note in the mid-game.

If you're going to try and paint Kai and myself talking and generally trying to herd cats into doing things as inherently scummy, then nooses are going to surround your neck at some point.

I don't like Bob, I don't like Striker, I don't... have a great read on Aekiel. But mostly I'm going to go crash before I start saying and doing things I don't mean. Eyeballs are leaking out of my skull, or so it feels. Night folks.

191 Moridin Wed May 23 2012 01:23:48 PM
#vote bob99

Outside of him, I'm a bit torn as to whether StrikerLee's protecting Ashaya is scummy, whiteknighting or just cautiousness because of her turning out to be the priest last game. Given how derpy he was previously, I wouldn't put any of them past him.

Town reads I have on both Stojil and Eidolonic, though the latter's posts about not checking him are... well, I doubt scum Eid would be quite so blatant, though I suppose he could be a JW. So far he seems alright, though.

192 Uncle Stojil Wed May 23 2012 01:25:33 PM @KaiDASH
From Kalas:
"If I'm scummy no matter what bob is wouldn't you be better off making a stronger case against me?"

My strongest (my only, really) case is against you. Tell me everything you can about bob99, please. You have avoided the (real) topic multiple times, now.

I agree with you, though, on the similarities to last game. KaiDASH is doing exactly the same thing he's done in day 1 of WH1. Vote for Geabe/bob (second vote after his junior buddy instead of the first one here) and when it seems like it's going to happen, voice his displeasure with it (while never dropping off or attempting another bandwagon) to put some distance between himself and it. The exchange with guljons was slightly scummy too (mostly for the fact he got out of it leaving the impression he had "won" that, while he actually hadn't).

Care to comment on thist, @KaiDASH ?

193 Geabe Wed May 23 2012 02:24:31 PM
I rather doubt StrikerLee's protection of Ashaya is anything to consider noteworthy at this point in time. It sounds to me as though he is being his usual (semi-annoying) self.

That said, I don't like his usual self.

I also want to hear more from Klackerz. Please comment on some of your reads.

194 Aekiel Wed May 23 2012 04:32:56 PM @Uncle Stojil
@Uncle Stojil: Guess I'm remembering it wrong then. I just recall voting for you when I had no other decent scum reads, just because. I don't actually have a scum read on you (I don't have any read at all so far, given how I know you're capable of seeming town even when scum).

At this point I think it's inevitable that Bob is going to be lynched, and while I'm leaning to him being derp town more than scum at this point, it's important to lynch every day if only for info gathering roles such as the gravedigger. I'm not going to vote right now, so that we can get some more discussion in before the end of day, but consider my default vote to be Bob99 at this point.

195 KaiDASH Wed May 23 2012 04:44:34 PM @Uncle Stojil
@Castiel 188

very disappoint

@Kalas 189

Usually when I ask for a lynch vote I would actually, you know... like a lynch vote instead of a line about who you would lynch vote and why that vote would be beneficial

@Eidolonic 190

... Are you doing what I think you're doing? because whelp

@Uncle Stojil 192

I'm doing the same thing I do basically every day 1 I'm in on DLP. Organize discussion, because nobody else ever does it and games that don't have it are almost universally a disaster.

I don't personally need to win anything Stojil, I don't know why you'd think I would need to.

196 castiel Wed May 23 2012 05:03:29 PM @KaiDASH
@KaiDASH

Why?

197 bob99 Wed May 23 2012 05:21:52 PM
Well my role would be a lot more useful if I survived a few more days and I kind of screwed that up. But it looks like I will probably end up dead. so anyway is there somewhat of a good consensus on a clear second lynch target? Because I'm not seeing one.

198 Aekiel Wed May 23 2012 05:34:03 PM
Looks like we'll be reacting to whoever the witches kill tonight, rather than going off day one derps as we'd usually do. Shame, but nobody has really derped today other than you.

199 bob99 Wed May 23 2012 05:35:06 PM
Yeah, and unfortunately I'm the DOB.

200 KaiDASH Wed May 23 2012 05:46:57 PM
dob... is a pretty towny claim imo

bob99, your mission is to find us an alternative lynch!

201 KaiDASH Wed May 23 2012 05:47:10 PM
#unvote bob99

202 bob99 Wed May 23 2012 05:55:37 PM
Well strikerlee's whiteknighting of Ash and his reasons are making me nervous. So I would be comfortable lynching him. But I don't have a strong read on him. Eid has been making me slightly nervous and I definitely want to keep a close eye on him. Mainly because the idea of a scum!Eid scares me. But he is definitely a bad target. I think my bandwagon is dirty so I am looking at targets in the list of people who voted for me.

203 Bill Door Wed May 23 2012 06:13:50 PM @bob99
@bob99 I believe your claim, but it doesn't really convince me of your innocence. All of your early post semed very scummy, they reminded me of the kind of posts I made in the last game, when I was a JW. But it does convince me to give you another chance, but I'll be keeping a very close eye on you.

So #unvote bob99

And #vote StrikerLee Some of the things he's said have been just wat, he's the one only person I think that we have the time to be able to get a majority to vote on. Although I woudn't be adverse to voting for someone else if neccessary, I'm not happy with either Menace or Castiel

204 bob99 Wed May 23 2012 06:21:35 PM
#vote StrikerLee

205 bob99 Wed May 23 2012 06:29:28 PM
I also could go with Castiel. I don't have anything big on him but I don't really like his defense of Ash. Sure town was wrong about her last game but I don't really see why we should treat her any differently. She screwed around in the game and the town went after her. I think town handled that fine. So I don't think that she should get a pass on derpy behavior this game. Not that she has really done anything yet. But again, that's the only thing that I have against Castiel. That and he voted for me, so I'm assuming that there is a higher probability that he is scum.

206 bob99 Wed May 23 2012 06:31:35 PM @Bill Door
@Bill Door What's the reason for for mentioning Menace?

207 Aekiel Wed May 23 2012 06:42:50 PM
I reckon I'd be down with a Strikerlee lynch and I'd suggest that if he does turn out to be scum then it's quite likely that Geabe would be scum too. Post 193 is the one that makes the connection, and his praising bob's 'skill' in being the Inquisitor is suspect at best.

Stirkerlee may or may not be part of it, and I'm decidedly on the fence about which I suspect him of, because he is known for being derp town as well as the occasional white knight, iirc.

208 Aekiel Wed May 23 2012 06:43:19 PM
#vote StrikerLee

209 Bill Door Wed May 23 2012 06:44:38 PM @bob99
@bob99 I didn't particularly like the way he got on the bandwagon for you, and his answers to the questions seemed a bit odd to me.

210 castiel Wed May 23 2012 06:47:32 PM @Bill Door
@bob99 When did I defend Ash? Neither did I ask that she be treated differently.

@Bill Door If you can tell me why you are not happy with me, it will help.

Regardless, #vote StrikerLee (because I doubt we will reach a majority with bob now.)

211 bob99 Wed May 23 2012 06:49:14 PM
Anyway, I'm confining my top four targets right now to the people who have seemed to give off scum vibes to other people and who have voted for me, since I'm assuming that my bandwagon has a higher percentage of scum than the rest of the population. I have a good idea for a primary target but I'm not annoncing it because if it ends up to be town a night kill activates it then the coven will get an easy double kill if they know who will die.

212 bob99 Wed May 23 2012 06:57:31 PM @castiel
@castiel
quote:
@Kai

Too early to tell, at best I can speculate. Last game I was so sure Ash was scum and she turns out to be the fucking Priest. I don't want to make a mistake like that again.

That statement. I'm not worried about making that mistake. If Ash hadn't rr'd I would have been fine with lynching her. It would have been a defendable move, although bad for town. So I'm saying that if Ash plays the same way this game I'm happy getting rid of her if she doesn't do something drastic again like rr. I wouldn't be concerned about making a mistake in her case, I would lay the blame for a bad lynch on her if she's town, not the town.

That said, it really wasn't a strong defense at all, it just gave me some scummy vibes. I'm easily willing to change my about you as the game progresses. I'm not going on much here.

213 Geabe Wed May 23 2012 07:00:36 PM
#unvote bob99

#vote StrikerLee

I'm not happy with Menace. Neither am I too happy with bob99, though I can give bob the benefit of the doubt, at least for now.

I'm also not too decided on a scum StrikerLee, because of his history of derp. Maybe this was the part you somehow didn't make the connection with, Aekiel.

214 Bill Door Wed May 23 2012 07:03:40 PM
@Castiel This is what KaiDASH asked you:

"Let's go with a town read, scum read and lynch vote on someone not bob99"

This is your answer for the last one:

"Since I don't like no-lynch, I will vote for whoever has the most votes already, hence: Lynch: bob"

Are you telling me you fail to see the problem here?

215 Sesc Wed May 23 2012 07:04:21 PM
Not to say I told you so, but I told you so. So what now, we're switching one derp for the other? StrikerLee is hardly better than bob. Why the fuck don't we put some pressure on the really odd people?

I pointed out Geabe ages ago. BillDoor is hardly inconspicious either, #203 trying to reason why not to lynch bob all the while trying to reason why he still is scum is pretzel logic at its finest (finished with obligatory catch phrase which by itself gives a +1 scum boost).

And you want to lynch StrikerLee?


In-line Edit -- And both have by now jumped onto StrikerLee like whoa. LMFAO.

216 Ollie Wed May 23 2012 07:04:59 PM
so I'm just checking in, will use night to read up more on all the conversations, I've been up and running for 25 hours and it was fucking terrible, I'll be active tomorrow.

216 Ollie Wed May 23 2012 07:07:05 PM
oh and since court hasn't picked yet? OH FUCK YES I AM SO IN really now....

217 bob99 Wed May 23 2012 07:07:38 PM @Aekiel
@Aekiel what do you mean about Geabes's praise of me suspect at best? He seemed to be attacking my post for court in the previous post and in that same post. So he definitely seemed not to be agreeing me. I can see the logic in your point about his defence of strikerlee though.

218 bob99 Wed May 23 2012 07:11:49 PM
Well, I probably won't be around until the night.

219 Sesc Wed May 23 2012 07:14:50 PM @bob99
@bob99: What you wrote was a bunch of nonsense, and Geabe disliked it for all the wrong reasons. But on top of that, he did agree with you in the very next post that you were decent a finding out stuff, which made no sense whatsoever. That's what Aekiel meant (post #77).

220 castiel Wed May 23 2012 07:15:15 PM @Bill Door
@bob99

I wasn't defending her in any form, I was just saying that because someone who I was 100% sure was scum, turns out to be the priest (which I dearly paid for since everyone went nuclear on my ass afterwards), I was wary of labelling someone as scum very early in the game (though I did share two suspects, you and striker for the obvious reasons).

I wasn't specifically talking about Ash but everyone in general.

@Bill Door

No, I don't see a problem. I hate no-lynch. Unless of course I know 100% that the person being lynched is town, I will vote for whoever has the most chance of dying. Since the bandwagon switched to Striker, I switched my vote to him. Every night we don't lynch is a plus for the scum.

Also, I did not notice Kai's "isn't bob99" part. But then I don't have enough on anyone to warrant a lynch.

221 Bill Door Wed May 23 2012 07:24:58 PM
You were asked for a lynch vote on someone other than bob. A lynch vote is a nice thing early in a game, who you vote for and how they react to the vote can tell us a lot about the person and which team they're playing for. Kai even specifically removed the option of the easy answer that tells us nothing. And what did you do? You took the easy answer that tells us nothing. A vote on literally any other player in the game would have been more benificial to us at that point. Do you still not see the problem?

Hmm... Do you guys think we have enough time to get a lynch on Castiel? Because if so then I want to vote for him. He's leapfrogged both Striker and bob in scumminess for me now.

222 castiel Wed May 23 2012 07:42:07 PM @Bill Door
@Bill Door

You did see where I said I did not notice the "not Bob" part, right?

I really don't get where this agression is coming from.

At that point I did not have any answer to that question, what do you expect me to do? Pick someone random?

223 Bill Door Wed May 23 2012 07:48:09 PM
Yes actually, picking someone at random would be better. A perfect example of this is when Kai voted for bob, he horribly overreacted to a single vote, making him seem scummy. Say you voted for klackerz, not only would your vote on him tell us something about you, his reaction to the vote would tell us something about him.

You chose the option that was in no way helpful to town, which makes you seem scummy to me.

224 Moridin Wed May 23 2012 07:48:45 PM
#unvote bob99

#vote StrikerLee

I don't think it would be likely we'll get a lynch on Castiel, and frankly I find StrikerLee a bit more suspicious than him. I'd still have preferred bob, but if his RR is genuine it's best to give him another chance to prove his towniness. As far as Castiel goes, he is acting a bit odd, but he does tend to get defensive so I'd rather go for StrikerLee if I had to choose.

225 KaiDASH Wed May 23 2012 08:56:24 PM @StrikerLee
@bob99

If you do get killed tonight (hey, maybe it could happen if scum think you're definitely shooting town) don't shoot me, sesc, eidolonic or bill door because various shades of townreads.

#vote StrikerLee

I think it's unfortunate that we've gone from bob to strikerlee (who likely isn't even going to be online again prior to deadline) but it's preferable to 1. lynching bob and 2. no lynch.

@StrikerLee: If you're town, probably flip a coin or something to decide between protecting me, eidolonic, sesc. If you're scum, obviously scum have a free shot at whoever they want.

226 KaiDASH Wed May 23 2012 08:59:59 PM
i want to say don't hammer before some more people (stojil, sesc, kalas, eido, etc) can come on and chat, but i kind of view a no lynch as somewhat likely :\

So I guess, if you know you'll be on in ~4 hours, maybe vote then instead of now, but if you won't be on in 4 hours, vote now

227 Eidolonic Wed May 23 2012 09:11:00 PM
Actually, hnng.

Check Geabe tonight, Priest.

He's soft defending Ash and Striker - possible JW's to his EW? He's been found suspicious by some, and it'd be hilarious to have a genuine link early in the game.

Or, just... do whatever.

King - pick me for the court if you want. I'll do useful things, or something.

You know the pros and cons to picking people like myself/Kai. We're generally active, but we're also pretty likely to get shot in the face in the first couple nights. Well. Unless we're a witch. But I think Kai's clean this game, so there's that.

But uh. Don't take my day one reads as gospel, for the love of fucking god.

228 castiel Wed May 23 2012 09:45:23 PM
I don't really get why everyone is going against me all of a sudden. >_>

And I'd like to be on the court too. :D

229 Sesc Wed May 23 2012 09:54:23 PM
I feel like I'm talking with myself. Regarding a StrikerLee lynch: I said everything I had to say, and a whole lot more. Additionally, his wagon, like bob's, took of far too easily, especially with those people I don't really like atm.

But whatever, I'll be on around two hours before deadline and I'll vote then if neccessary. So feel free to count a +1 virtual vote; I don't think no lynch is an issue.

230 Kalas Wed May 23 2012 09:58:06 PM @Uncle Stojil
Back. Little catch up post then hitting the hay.

@Uncle Stojil: To answer your question from 192, he was one of the first people online and opened up the game with some questionable posts. Nothing concrete but worth joining in with Kai in putting some pressure on him. I didn't feel he responded well and my read started moving into scum territory.

That was about when I felt his and Kai's discussion of the voting mechanic had reached to high a level of distraction. Did my best to understand what they were talking about (still a stupid arguement imo) but bob started responding/posting better so I held off throwing a vote on him. Went to work, slept and came back to a near lynch on him.

Of course, that was suspicious as fuck and I mostly spent the day looking at who had dogpiled on him. Worked again and came back to a, believable, role reveal and a wagon on someone I have a much easier time getting behind.

That said #vote StrikerLee later man.

231 Sesc Wed May 23 2012 10:29:21 PM
Yes, everyone always can get behind StrikerLee :/

Anyway, I just realised I am not entirely sure that my Uni has the latest Flash installed, so I might not make it before deadline. Thus, I am considering to call it a day right now. In 10 minutes I have to leave, if anyone wants to get a word in, now is the time.

232 guljons Wed May 23 2012 10:32:47 PM
I think a reason why StrikerLee wagon build so easily is that he is StrikerLee. If it was somebody else I dont think so much people would have jumped in him so fast. That said I dont have a problem with lyncing him.I admit it is more because of the general feel of him and how he plays than what he has said.

 But nobody could stop this if they even wanted at this point, so Sesc you can not vote now. I will be around to make the last vote if nobody else shows up. We could get some more posts in these hours.

233 Sesc Wed May 23 2012 10:37:46 PM @guljons
@guljons -- If you are +definitely+ there, I will leave it as is, and try to get online when I am at Uni. There are a few people that have not reacted yet to this lynch wagon, maybe they will want to, in the last three hours.

234 guljons Wed May 23 2012 10:41:34 PM
I will be. Just got home and dont have nothing planned for next 3 hours.
If something would come up, then I would vote before going, so no worries there.

235 Eidolonic Wed May 23 2012 10:42:25 PM
I can also unvote and then put the hammer down, if you want. I'm working, but I work from home, and it's no problem to just tab in 3 hours from now and go BANG. YOU DEAD.

236 Sesc Wed May 23 2012 10:44:29 PM
Alright. Later then.

237 Uncle Stojil Wed May 23 2012 10:55:37 PM @KaiDASH
@KaiDASH

I was more interested in a comment on this:

"Vote for Geabe/bob (second vote after his junior buddy instead of the first one here) and when it seems like it's going to happen, voice his displeasure with it (while never dropping off or attempting another bandwagon) to put some distance between himself and it."

As for the "win" thing, maybe I wasn't very clear. Does it help if I change "win" to "come out ahead"? Like, in the argument. And I didn't say you need to win the argument. I said that you got out of the exchange leaving the impression you had won it. Anyway, it's not very important, but stop twisting others' words. It's scummy.

You immediately backtracking after bob's role-reveal could be interpretable as scum trying to protect himself from the DOB's revenge kill since you had that squabble with him and started his wagon. But I agree that the role-reveal is believable and realistic so... I don't know. How you left the rebound-lynch up to others was very town, but I can see scum doing it in the right situation. But yeah... leaning on town for you at the moment.

The bandwagon on Striker looks ominous and has changed the view I had of the one on bob quite a bit.

There's no trace of self-righteous!Castiel in Castiel's defense.

Aekiel is messing up meta-reads like woah. That's a Thing.

Ashaya has lurked a lot and that stinks more than usual considering how she's been pulled in multiple discussions because of others and despite herself.

I think I'm okay with Eido (stunning, I know) and what he's doing.

Kalas,
"but bob started responding/posting better so I held off throwing a vote on him."

...

Like when he claimed not-holy?

238 StrikerLee Wed May 23 2012 11:53:40 PM
give me time to post some stuff before you kill me off

239 StrikerLee Thu May 24 2012 12:03:36 AM
Wow, I go off t owork and the bandwagon forms on me. Great work killing a town yet again lmao. The funny thing is I didnt even give a reason for anyone to vote for me.

Guys, your lookiong to into my protection thing. I randomly picked a name because as I had said before its day 1. It could be anyone and I get slammed for who I picked.

KaiDash, to answer your 187 post, town read is Eido because he always just seems like town to me, scum read bob/castiel due to the vibe im getting from their posts. And to lynch right now I would probably say Kalas because he screwed me last game.

Bob, as to your 202 post. I wasnt whiteknighting anyone. I throw up a random name and it gets mistaken for something its not. I can sit here and throw out a role claim, its fuckin day 1, come on people. Bob you are an idiot for a day 1 role claim, that in itself is scummy and you should put more attention on him.

Aekiel your 208 post, yeah I have nothing to do with that, Joys of being at work when all this goes down. And I havent whiteknighted anyone before so dont know why it keeps getting brought up.

Gaebe, post 213...I pointed out a random opinion and im considered scum, this is just liek the whiteknighting bullshit dude.

Castiel, I agree that you keep jumping back and forth on your lynch, thats more scummy then anything so if I'm going to die I'll make sure to point out every scummy detail just like you guys do to me.


Within the next 2 hours you guys are goiong to kill me, your also going to kill a town. Several others have said this and I agree, like bobs wagon this one on my took off to fast for the wrong reasons. Its fun to see how answering a simple question can get you killed in this game. With scum having less members theres always more town to kill and you guys are off to a great start killing yourselves off. I'm not going to do the stupid role reveal because it wont matter but I am for sure town.

240 StrikerLee Thu May 24 2012 12:05:21 AM
Since it doesnt really matter what happens now, I'm going to throw my vote over on Castiel because he just says and does what everyone else does.

#unvote bob99
#vote castiel

241 Sesc Thu May 24 2012 12:08:35 AM
So I found a working flash plugin after all.

And ... yeah, I don't much like StrikerLee's defence post. That's about it though, just a feeling. Off to classes, and yay, I can type properly again :)

242 KaiDASH Thu May 24 2012 12:08:56 AM
Someone (Strikerlee? Eidolonic?) hammer?

I don't think we're going to get anything more out of today and the sooner night starts the sooner it can end

243 StrikerLee Thu May 24 2012 12:10:07 AM
alright well im town, and im the entertainer lol. just like last game you guys killed off a town role. great work you everyone...

244 Sesc Thu May 24 2012 12:10:30 AM
Well, I'd have liked Ashaya to drop in, considering much of this was about her :/

245 KaiDASH Thu May 24 2012 12:11:27 AM
she's on a plane or going to be on a plane shortly so I doubt she's going to check in

246 StrikerLee Thu May 24 2012 12:12:04 AM
Yeah I would like to have her come in and say something as well, although it wont help me at all. Im about to drop myself off. But yeah theres my roleclaim before I die. Nice work killing a town.

Remember last game, we killed Fenrellis off 1st, he was the hunter lmao and town..This game you managed to do the same thing, kill off the 1st town role.

247 KaiDASH Thu May 24 2012 12:13:14 AM
this just in: mislynches happen

more breaking news at 11

248 Bill Door Thu May 24 2012 12:13:54 AM @StrikerLee
@StrikerLee Nothing you are saying is making me think thatyou are town. Literally nothing. What does your role have to do with whether or not your scum?

249 castiel Thu May 24 2012 12:15:51 AM
@Striker, Bill Door was the first to switch vote to you. bob and Aekiel followed. Then I did. I don't see you saying anything to them.

And I also died game. I was also town. That means nothing.

I have nothing personal against you. I switched vote to you because I knew there was no way bob would be lynched, and there was a possibility I might not have been able to check in before day end so I wanted to get my vote in.

250 castiel Thu May 24 2012 12:16:38 AM
also died last game* >_>

251 StrikerLee Thu May 24 2012 12:20:09 AM @Bill Door
and Sesc, what about my defence post did you not like? Did I not go into enough detail about the random bullshit? I got accused of whiteknighting someone (which to be honest this is my 2nd full game so not really sure what you mean by that..I heard it last game but didnt pay attention to it cause it didnt have to do with me...) And I havent said anything that would make me seem scummy to be honest, the wagon formed just as fast and bobs did when he did his little role reveal to save himself.

@Bill Door Im not scum thats the thing, 2nd game in a row I didnt get on that team when I wanted to be.

either way it doesnt matter, I doubt anything I say at this point is going to save me, and this being a game I'm not going to take it as serious as some of you here would.

Yes Castiel I looked into that a few mins ago, I wanted to see how the voting started and yeah, Bill Door was the one who threw me out there. Thats scummy in itself due to not really having a reason for it.

The point I was trying to make is that you guys made a bandwagon which I joined in due to the way bob was posting, I made that clear, then all of a sudden he role reveals and you all switch focus to me for my apparent whiteknighting of Ash who was a random name I picked for protection on night 1. I wouldnt protect anyone night 1 to be honest I was just throwing a name out there for people to think about. So within the last 10 hours this wahgon formed on me and people just switching votes because its the easy lynch but your not even looking at the people who started the wagon. Priest check into Bill Door, KaiDash, Geabe but not in that order, just make sure you get all 3 of them.

252 KaiDASH Thu May 24 2012 12:27:51 AM
strikerlee, don't be silly.

You're flipping coins (or using some other random method) and protecting one of me, eidolonic or sesc.

this is quite seriously, the most town thing you can do at this point.

Also, there is real value in going down silently and not claiming a role, especially one as meaningless (in this context) as entertainer (incidentally, that goes for everyone).

--

Not strictly related to the game, but posting giant walls about how not scummy you are is basically the most scummy thing you can do.

Anyway, someone get in here and hammer.

Strikerlee, try not to spill more of your guts before someone can hammer you.

253 StrikerLee Thu May 24 2012 12:33:46 AM
Lmao, I'm going to end it now cause I have work and all. You guys have fun, Ill check in a few days from now and see how the games going.

254 chocolatepi Thu May 24 2012 12:34:03 AM
It is now Night 1!
See the game log for the results of the previous lynch.

255 chocolatepi Thu May 24 2012 06:14:59 AM
It is now Day 2!
See the game log for the results of last Night.

256 bob99 Thu May 24 2012 06:33:34 AM
Huh, that was interesting. At least the coven ended up giving us one confirmed town memeber.

257 Menace Thu May 24 2012 06:46:07 AM
So, uh, I missed the whole switch from bob99 to StrikerLee, but could somebody enlighten me as to why exactly bob's claim did anything to prove his innocence?

The way I see it, if he's scum, claiming with that role is a win/win. If he dies to a lynch anyway, he gets a kill off on a prominent towny. If he lives, his scum team is better off for it and he'll get to use his kill later anyway. I mean, you could argue that he'd be wary of Martyr interfering or something along those line, but I dunno. Doesn't seem good enough to completely clear his name.

258 bob99 Thu May 24 2012 07:00:41 AM
I think the general consensus was that my claim was believed. And if I was town then I would have more time to choose a good lynch target. I still think a lot of people are suspicious of me. As to why the coven didn't take me out, I'm certain it is because they were convinced there was a good chance of me taking out scum.

259 Menace Thu May 24 2012 07:02:52 AM
I never said I didn't believe your claim. I said it didn't make you town by itself.

And, uh, maybe the Coven didn't take you out because you're one of them? :S

260 bob99 Thu May 24 2012 07:09:54 AM
It doesn't, but I thought I was more of a derp/first day lynch then a confirmed scum lynch.

261 chocolatepi Thu May 24 2012 07:11:27 AM
jwlk has replaced dhulli. (jwlk may not be able to post immediately)

262 bob99 Thu May 24 2012 07:25:52 AM
I'm taking off, I'll probably be gone for awhile.

263 Bill Door Thu May 24 2012 07:47:11 AM
Well that's a good result. Unfortunately it doesn't tell us all that much, just that the scum tried to off a prominent town member.

Anyway,I'm still suspicious of bob and Castiel. Castiel slightly more so then bob.

I'm off to bed now, won't be around for 16~17 hours or so.

264 guljons Thu May 24 2012 08:08:21 AM
We cant be sure Kai is 100% town yet. He may very well be Coven Recluse or Survivor.
If he was Coven recluse then this would be masterful play to get himself townconfirmed for many.
If he is Survivor, then the probabilty is smaller for Coven going for this plan. They would not want to waste an extra life probably.

Other possibilty is that Kai is town recluse, survivor , was protected by Striker or he is fanatic who was also checked tonight by priest.

265 Menace Thu May 24 2012 08:29:54 AM
... Or maybe StrikerLee took Kai's advice and protected him, and the Coven isn't full of complete retards. Because that plan is pretty damn stupid.

266 Eidolonic Thu May 24 2012 08:31:58 AM
I'd argue coven is still full of complete retards. Since they'd know whether or not StrikerLee was town or scum - and if he's town, why would they shoot into the cluster of 3 people he asked Striker to protect? 33% failure ratio.

Kai - consider saying if it was protect that saved you or role. Townfirming Striker means we'd be foolish to pursue any links between him and others from day one, and can just write him off as 100% derp. You know whether or not it's worth the risk.

267 Menace Thu May 24 2012 08:33:39 AM
In before Kai reveals as Gravedigger. D:

268 KaiDASH Thu May 24 2012 09:22:36 AM
I'm the priest, Uncle Stojil is in the coven.

#vote Uncle Stojil

269 KaiDASH Thu May 24 2012 09:24:10 AM
oh man, i really shouldn't post 2 minutes after i wake up (all the shenanigans i could have done) ,_,

270 KaiDASH Thu May 24 2012 09:24:43 AM
I really am the priest and stojil really is coven though

271 KaiDASH Thu May 24 2012 09:27:47 AM
So me being priest wasn't quite the unmitigated disaster I expected, that's cool (even though I was shot night one)

272 bob99 Thu May 24 2012 09:29:04 AM
Why did you just rr as the priest in the second day? And what made you check Stojil?

273 KaiDASH Thu May 24 2012 09:30:41 AM
1. Someone tried to kill KaiDASH during the night, but KaiDASH survived!

2. Manstinct

274 bob99 Thu May 24 2012 09:32:08 AM
well, I'm taking off again. Won't be back for awhile.

275 Eidolonic Thu May 24 2012 09:32:48 AM
No martyr in this game, either. Unfortunate.

276 bob99 Thu May 24 2012 09:33:08 AM
#vote Uncle Stojil
for right now unless something else major happens when I'm gone.

277 Menace Thu May 24 2012 09:34:11 AM
Well shit.

#vote Uncle Stojil

278 Eidolonic Thu May 24 2012 09:36:19 AM
Well. Kai. Hm. I believe you, don't worry.

But uh. As you're going to die tonight, mind checking me? For reasons. Things happen simultaneously.

279 Geabe Thu May 24 2012 09:38:24 AM
Hold on - don't we have an acolyte to confirm KaiDASH's claim?

280 KaiDASH Thu May 24 2012 09:39:49 AM
Do you need one?

Is getting shot in the face night 1 not townfirm enough?

???

281 Eidolonic Thu May 24 2012 09:39:51 AM
Well. Yes. But... it's not really something I'm worried about, heh. They can speak up whenever they check in, can't hurt having another townfirm around.

282 Menace Thu May 24 2012 09:40:50 AM
Pretty much what Kai said. Wouldn't make much sense for Coven to gank one of their own, and seeing as Priest can't be JW/Spy... Yeah.

283 Eidolonic Thu May 24 2012 09:41:28 AM
Well. I can see worlds in which you'd shoot yourself in the face night one as scum and fakeclaim priest, but it'd involve survivalist type roles, and scumbuddy gravedigger. But, uh. Yeeeah, I don't think we're in those worlds.

284 KaiDASH Thu May 24 2012 09:44:02 AM
(incidentally, good job strikerlee)

285 Eidolonic Thu May 24 2012 09:46:45 AM
Does have the benefit of townfirming StrikerLogic, yes. Which means I feel marginally better about Ashaya.

286 Sesc Thu May 24 2012 09:47:48 AM @Geabe
@Geabe: Kai was NK and survived because of StrikerLee. That gives us two Town for the price of one. And only if your profession includes the word Witch and your name sounds like guljons do you try to come up with schemes where the witches try to kill themselves in an attempt confuse everyone.

So, will you be one?

287 Eidolonic Thu May 24 2012 10:03:29 AM
So, uh.

Castiel, Bob99, and Aekiel are the interactions to note, in regards to Stojil.

Would like a couple different people to use the search function and look over Stojil's posts, and Castiels, and Bobs, and Aekiels, and share their conclusions. And then I'll give mine!

288 jwlk Thu May 24 2012 10:28:38 AM
hi go check thread kk thx