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  1. [2010-05-05 14:20:04] [INFO] Now logging to <file:///C:/Users/user/Documents/Chatzilla%20logs/logs/irc.synirc.net/channels/%23site19.2010-05-05.log>.
  2. [2010-05-05 14:20:04] [INFO] Channel view for ``#site19'' opened.
  3. [2010-05-05 14:20:10] -->| YOU (Ravinoff) have joined #site19
  4. [2010-05-05 14:20:10] =-= Topic for #site19 is ``Welcome to #site19 || http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/ || Sandbox for drafts: http://scpsandboxwiki.wikidot.com/ || #scpactiveduty || http://tinyurl.com/scpmap SCP User Map || The Password is Frozen Pool || Carl Sagan is Fucking Awesome, the Musical: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSgiXGELjbc''
  5. [2010-05-05 14:20:10] =-= Topic for #site19 was set by Bright on May-04-10 02:58:57
  6. [2010-05-05 14:20:15] <N00Bish_Legend> afternoon
  7. [2010-05-05 14:20:28] <Trace> ugh the stupid duets with the stupid lokomos in the fire realm I can't get it right
  8. [2010-05-05 14:20:40] <A_Fat_Ghost> oh hey, any of you kids think you could speed up some audio for me?
  9. [2010-05-05 14:20:52] <Zander> Mornin'
  10. [2010-05-05 14:20:58] <Trace> get audacity and do it yourself
  11. [2010-05-05 14:21:13] <A_Fat_Ghost> I don't know what that is and I don't want it
  12. [2010-05-05 14:21:58] -->| Nioki (~chatzilla@synIRC-B23F4AF4.cust.wildblue.net) has joined #site19
  13. [2010-05-05 14:22:25] <Tribalbob> Did you just call me a kid?
  14. [2010-05-05 14:22:41] <Tribalbob> How old are you, obese ectomorph?
  15. [2010-05-05 14:23:07] <Alias> Bob did you read the chat guidelines?
  16. [2010-05-05 14:23:26] <Sparks> Yes
  17. [2010-05-05 14:23:26] <A_Fat_Ghost> old enough to party
  18. [2010-05-05 14:23:59] <Sparks> Huh, My highlights are off.
  19. [2010-05-05 14:24:13] <Sparks> Better fix that
  20. [2010-05-05 14:24:14] =-= YOU are now known as TheRaven
  21. [2010-05-05 14:24:14] *nickserv* This nickname is registered and protected. If it is your
  22. [2010-05-05 14:24:15] *nickserv* nick, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY password. Otherwise,
  23. [2010-05-05 14:24:15] *nickserv* please choose a different nick.
  24. [2010-05-05 14:24:33] <MisterFlames> Ghost calls everyone a kid or son. Even me, and I'm prolly old enough to be *his* dad.
  25. [2010-05-05 14:24:50] <Gwendolyn> Anybody know of a free program that can take apart .swf files?
  26. [2010-05-05 14:25:08] =-= User mode for TheRaven is now +r
  27. [2010-05-05 14:25:08] *nickserv* Password accepted - you are now recognized.
  28. [2010-05-05 14:25:44] <A_Fat_Ghost> swftools?
  29. [2010-05-05 14:27:09] <Gwendolyn> I'll give that a try
  30. [2010-05-05 14:27:12] <TheRaven> Afternoon everybody.
  31. [2010-05-05 14:27:15] <Clef> Ghost is mentally a crotchety old man
  32. [2010-05-05 14:27:27] <A_Fat_Ghost> morning chickencrow
  33. [2010-05-05 14:27:40] -->| Nioki_ (~chatzilla@synIRC-B23F4AF4.cust.wildblue.net) has joined #site19
  34. [2010-05-05 14:27:40] <A_Fat_Ghost> not only that, I'm also mentally a muppet
  35. [2010-05-05 14:28:52] <A_Fat_Ghost> http://itsgoodtotalk.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/waldorf_statler1.jpg
  36. [2010-05-05 14:29:12] |<-- Nioki has left irc.synirc.net (Connection reset by peer)
  37. [2010-05-05 14:29:22] =-= Nioki_ is now known as Nioki
  38. [2010-05-05 14:29:42] <Zander> http://www.chilligansisland.com/2009/09/27/statler-waldorf-vs-mystery-science-theater-3000-there-can-be-no-winner/
  39. [2010-05-05 14:30:46] <A_Fat_Ghost> mike and the bots appear to be on the wrong side of the theatre
  40. [2010-05-05 14:31:05] <Zander> Yeah, but it makes it look like they're looking at eachother there .
  41. [2010-05-05 14:31:17] <A_Fat_Ghost> your mum.
  42. [2010-05-05 14:31:55] <Zander> What about her? I mean, beyond the obvious that she's a psychotic whore.
  43. [2010-05-05 14:32:37] <TheRaven> Note to self: stay away from Zander's mom.
  44. [2010-05-05 14:32:38] <A_Fat_Ghost> those attributes are exactly relevant to the topic
  45. [2010-05-05 14:32:44] <A_Fat_Ghost> you just don't realise it yet
  46. [2010-05-05 14:33:33] <Zander> Ahh, fair enough on that. But yeah, good advice to follow Raven. Good advice.
  47. [2010-05-05 14:35:44] <Zander> It's hard to find good mother's day cards to cover that issue.
  48. [2010-05-05 14:35:56] -->| seisatsu (~seisatsu@diesen.liebe.der.welt) has joined #site19
  49. [2010-05-05 14:35:56] =-= Mode #site19 +h seisatsu by ChanServ
  50. [2010-05-05 14:36:08] <Zander> "Happy Mother's day, please respect the restraining order."
  51. [2010-05-05 14:37:19] <A_Fat_Ghost> send a fathers' day card instead
  52. [2010-05-05 14:37:30] <A_Fat_Ghost> she'll understand
  53. [2010-05-05 14:38:02] <Clef> :P :P :P
  54. [2010-05-05 14:38:56] <Zander> The real fun part is that I got.. eh, about 30% chance of going mad like her, if the current understanding of schizophrenia is correct.
  55. [2010-05-05 14:40:33] |<-- Kald has left irc.synirc.net (Quit: )
  56. [2010-05-05 14:41:16] <A_Fat_Ghost> drop a bunch of acid
  57. [2010-05-05 14:41:21] <A_Fat_Ghost> it may just save your life
  58. [2010-05-05 14:41:38] <Zander> Or just move things along. Either way, really.
  59. [2010-05-05 14:41:48] <A_Fat_Ghost> well, I mean, when you get to that point
  60. [2010-05-05 14:41:49] <Zander> Can't think of a downside.
  61. [2010-05-05 14:42:07] <A_Fat_Ghost> for now just stick to whatever it is you're smoking
  62. [2010-05-05 14:42:33] <Zander> The sad part is, I'm stone sober right now.
  63. [2010-05-05 14:42:45] <A_Fat_Ghost> that's not sad at all
  64. [2010-05-05 14:42:51] <A_Fat_Ghost> it's not even noon yet
  65. [2010-05-05 14:43:16] |<-- Sparks has left irc.synirc.net (Ping timeout)
  66. [2010-05-05 14:43:43] <Zander> Well, it's well past noon where I am . Though my coworker suggests 3 olive lunches every other day, we never follow his suggestion.
  67. [2010-05-05 14:44:02] <Alias> Alright, I did a proofreading run on this thing while fully conscious >.> http://scpsandboxwiki.wikidot.com/alias
  68. [2010-05-05 14:44:21] <A_Fat_Ghost> I prefer a sandwich-and-a-bong brunch
  69. [2010-05-05 14:44:34] <Alias> (Random-transforming guy SCP idea again)
  70. [2010-05-05 14:44:43] <A_Fat_Ghost> oh hey alias I didn't even notice you were awake yet.
  71. [2010-05-05 14:45:15] <Alias> <.< But we were discussing the weather.
  72. [2010-05-05 14:45:32] <A_Fat_Ghost> I've been up all night cut me some slack
  73. [2010-05-05 14:45:53] <A_Fat_Ghost> anyhow, first thing's first, you don't need the item title in the "item #:"heading"
  74. [2010-05-05 14:46:24] <Gnosis> !search gender
  75. [2010-05-05 14:46:25] <Nala> Gnosis: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-113 - The Gender-Switcher
  76. [2010-05-05 14:46:37] <Alias> Yeah, I know. I usually stick it there in the drafts though cause otherwise I forget to make a title till the very last second.
  77. [2010-05-05 14:47:15] |<-- Nioki has left irc.synirc.net (Client exited)
  78. [2010-05-05 14:47:24] <A_Fat_Ghost> also, regarding the addendum
  79. [2010-05-05 14:47:47] <A_Fat_Ghost> I can understand if it's a shapeshifter, but why the ability to grow metal?
  80. [2010-05-05 14:47:54] <A_Fat_Ghost> and why only reference it in the addendum?
  81. [2010-05-05 14:49:13] <Alias> ...that's a good point. And I suppose there's no reason for it to be metal, I'll change it to just 'conductive'.
  82. [2010-05-05 14:49:17] <A_Fat_Ghost> also, if it was an asian boy before turning into raiden, I don't think that would be considered a "first" form
  83. [2010-05-05 14:50:32] <Alias> Right, first /metamorphic/ form.
  84. [2010-05-05 14:52:47] <SophosBlitz> metalmorphic
  85. [2010-05-05 14:52:53] |<-- Sarah`Dager has left irc.synirc.net (Ping timeout)
  86. [2010-05-05 14:53:09] <Zander> \m/
  87. [2010-05-05 14:53:22] <A_Fat_Ghost> metalli
  88. [2010-05-05 14:53:23] <A_Fat_Ghost> x
  89. [2010-05-05 14:54:03] <A_Fat_Ghost> also, the phrasing on "SCP-XXX could electrocute humans by consciously triggering a discharge while within range of the arc effect"
  90. [2010-05-05 14:54:14] <A_Fat_Ghost> seems a bit odd
  91. [2010-05-05 14:54:33] <Alias> Yeah wasn't sure how to say that.
  92. [2010-05-05 14:55:59] <A_Fat_Ghost> well, you mention in the sentence before that is caused arcs
  93. [2010-05-05 14:56:15] <A_Fat_Ghost> all you really have to do in that setnence there is convey that it can aim them
  94. [2010-05-05 14:57:46] <A_Fat_Ghost> also, I concur with the earlier sentiment that destroying the entire village is too much
  95. [2010-05-05 14:58:43] <A_Fat_Ghost> in fact, the actual backstory/retrieval of the item isn't really a necessity at all
  96. [2010-05-05 14:59:54] <Alias> Possibly. I added it because I felt like the article lacked any sort of conclusion before.
  97. [2010-05-05 14:59:58] <Alias> It just kinda stopped.
  98. [2010-05-05 15:00:07] <A_Fat_Ghost> such is the way
  99. [2010-05-05 15:00:13] <A_Fat_Ghost> you're not really trying to tell a story here
  100. [2010-05-05 15:00:28] <Zander> I really need to start working on this idea more. The basic premise is creepy (to me, anyway) but pulling it off with the appropiate amount of menace is hard.
  101. [2010-05-05 15:01:22] <TheRaven> Closure in the Foundation is "We set it on fire, and shot it. Then we fed it to Clef."
  102. [2010-05-05 15:01:42] <A_Fat_Ghost> closure is "The enclosure must be cleaned on a bi-weekly basis."
  103. [2010-05-05 15:03:03] <Zander> One of the worst jobs at the Foundation. Though... Frankly being the attending physician for the Montauk Procedure is close.
  104. [2010-05-05 15:03:04] <Alias> True, but I don't want it to end on that bulleted list Hmmm >.>
  105. [2010-05-05 15:04:59] <A_Fat_Ghost> you could turn it into an addendum if you want
  106. [2010-05-05 15:05:48] <A_Fat_Ghost> also, speaking of that bulleted list
  107. [2010-05-05 15:05:55] <A_Fat_Ghost> you can probably lose "SCP-XXX’s phobia of flying insects was noted and added to the containment procedures. "
  108. [2010-05-05 15:06:40] <A_Fat_Ghost> same for the "apparently" in "apparently female humanoid"
  109. [2010-05-05 15:06:45] <Alias> True, alright, got rid of that.
  110. [2010-05-05 15:07:16] <A_Fat_Ghost> in fact, since every entry on the list begins with "humanoid", you can probably lose those too, and just make it a note in the description section that it's always humanoid
  111. [2010-05-05 15:07:28] <TheRaven> We're doctors. We can tell a female humanoid when we look at one.
  112. [2010-05-05 15:08:05] <A_Fat_Ghost> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7n9jGw6aOco
  113. [2010-05-05 15:11:01] <A_Fat_Ghost> also, there are a good few occasions I'm seeing where "SCP-XXX" could be better replaced with "it"
  114. [2010-05-05 15:12:00] <A_Fat_Ghost> i.e. "roughly 30% of SCP-XXX’s waking hours"
  115. [2010-05-05 15:17:29] |<-- exitStrategy has left irc.synirc.net (Quit: exitStrategy)
  116. [2010-05-05 15:17:43] -->| exitStrategy (~fate@synIRC-93E43E20.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net) has joined #site19
  117. [2010-05-05 15:19:05] <A_Fat_Ghost> also also, perhaps there should be something added to the procedures section about colling the thing, so it doesn't up and die on us
  118. [2010-05-05 15:19:10] <A_Fat_Ghost> cooling, rather
  119. [2010-05-05 15:21:19] -->| Sparks (~Sparks@2F3E4CE.647EA544.3C6D700F.IP) has joined #site19
  120. [2010-05-05 15:22:11] |<-- Sparks has left irc.synirc.net (Connection reset by peer)
  121. [2010-05-05 15:22:24] -->| Sparks (~Sparks@2F3E4CE.647EA544.3C6D700F.IP) has joined #site19
  122. [2010-05-05 15:22:39] -->| Kald (~hammersku@synIRC-44EC65F.chello.nl) has joined #site19
  123. [2010-05-05 15:22:41] <Alias> Right. Current revision looks like this: http://scpsandboxwiki.wikidot.com/alias
  124. [2010-05-05 15:23:15] |<-- Zander has left irc.synirc.net (Client exited)
  125. [2010-05-05 15:24:10] -->| AssertiveRoland (Mibbit@1D45B4D9.5A8F3814.779E28C7.IP) has joined #site19
  126. [2010-05-05 15:24:17] <AssertiveRoland> Haha
  127. [2010-05-05 15:24:25] <AssertiveRoland> IWBTG in 914 on Fine?
  128. [2010-05-05 15:24:26] -->| Piedmont2 (Mibbit@C08EE997.F422457D.1A73FAA8.IP) has joined #site19
  129. [2010-05-05 15:24:27] <Sparks> May I suggest shortening "genetic testing suggests it was once █████████ █████, a young Asian male." to "genetic testing suggests it was once a young Asian male."? It seems more scientific to me.
  130. [2010-05-05 15:24:33] <AssertiveRoland> Hell, they probably did that poor researcher a favor
  131. [2010-05-05 15:24:43] * AssertiveRoland has beaten IWBTG. It was...unpleasant
  132. [2010-05-05 15:24:50] <Piedmont2> Ooh. What are we discussing?
  133. [2010-05-05 15:25:12] <A_Fat_Ghost> a draft
  134. [2010-05-05 15:25:13] <A_Fat_Ghost> http://scpsandboxwiki.wikidot.com/alias
  135. [2010-05-05 15:25:14] <Alias> http://scpsandboxwiki.wikidot.com/alias
  136. [2010-05-05 15:25:16] <A_Fat_Ghost> right there
  137. [2010-05-05 15:25:22] <Alias> Wait, what's this about IWBTG?
  138. [2010-05-05 15:25:59] <A_Fat_Ghost> oh for fuck's sake
  139. [2010-05-05 15:26:09] <A_Fat_Ghost> when will kids learn to stop putting videogames in the 914 test log
  140. [2010-05-05 15:26:11] |<-- Sparks has left irc.synirc.net (Connection reset by peer)
  141. [2010-05-05 15:26:14] <AssertiveRoland> A 914 experiment involving I Wanna Be The Guy
  142. [2010-05-05 15:26:26] -->| Sparks (~Sparks@2F3E4CE.647EA544.3C6D700F.IP) has joined #site19
  143. [2010-05-05 15:26:26] <Bright> Hmm.
  144. [2010-05-05 15:26:49] <Sparks> I better do this before I get disconnected again.
  145. [2010-05-05 15:26:56] <Sparks> !search stairwell
  146. [2010-05-05 15:26:56] <Nala> Sparks: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-087 - The Stairwell
  147. [2010-05-05 15:27:26] <Sparks> Yep, that's it. Thanks, Nala!
  148. [2010-05-05 15:27:29] <Kald> Oh for fuck's sake.
  149. [2010-05-05 15:27:34] <Kald> Why, Youtube, why?
  150. [2010-05-05 15:27:54] <A_Fat_Ghost> there's been a lot of that going around, kald
  151. [2010-05-05 15:28:11] <TheRaven> Youtube is cocks lately.
  152. [2010-05-05 15:28:21] <A_Fat_Ghost> but back to this draft; I notice that the blackout on the item's internal temperature is four boxes long
  153. [2010-05-05 15:28:25] <Kald> I looked up Rammstein's "Ich tu dir weh"
  154. [2010-05-05 15:28:33] <A_Fat_Ghost> you might want to take one or two of those out
  155. [2010-05-05 15:28:50] <Kald> And apparently, they have to change the sound to somethign earsplittingly horrendous or else Youtube will remove it.
  156. [2010-05-05 15:28:55] <Kald> Fuck you and eat shit, Google.
  157. [2010-05-05 15:29:00] <TheRaven> Basically.
  158. [2010-05-05 15:29:28] <Alias> There's meant to be a decimal point in there. You've got a point though >.> I'll shorten it.
  159. [2010-05-05 15:29:33] <Kald> Seriously
  160. [2010-05-05 15:29:34] <Kald> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqx1teBBNrU&feature=related
  161. [2010-05-05 15:29:43] <A_Fat_Ghost> really?
  162. [2010-05-05 15:29:51] <Kald> Does this not feel like the devil thrusting his musty cock into your ear canal?
  163. [2010-05-05 15:30:06] <AssertiveRoland> Well now I'm totally going to click on that link
  164. [2010-05-05 15:30:11] <A_Fat_Ghost> you're going to pull an "I think this milk is rotten, smell it"?
  165. [2010-05-05 15:30:15] <TheRaven> Yep.
  166. [2010-05-05 15:30:36] <Kald> No, I want you to share what I'm going through
  167. [2010-05-05 15:30:40] <Kald> Time to download the album
  168. [2010-05-05 15:30:52] <TheRaven> Kald, I've got it downloaded already.
  169. [2010-05-05 15:30:53] =-= Kald was booted from #site19 by A_Fat_Ghost (and I want a million sandwiches)
  170. [2010-05-05 15:31:21] -->| Kald (~hammersku@synIRC-44EC65F.chello.nl) has joined #site19
  171. [2010-05-05 15:31:26] <Kald> Better get busy then
  172. [2010-05-05 15:31:31] * Trace switches Sakura for Ino, Ino for Hinata, and Hinata for Sakura. For Want Of a Nail, to the extreme!
  173. [2010-05-05 15:31:39] <A_Fat_Ghost> also, I think if the item has breached containment once or twice, it's containment needs an upgrade from "simple, padded cell"
  174. [2010-05-05 15:31:45] <TheRaven> Kald, that album is insanely fast to find.
  175. [2010-05-05 15:32:21] <Kald> Aye, but I am, by nature, a lazy person.
  176. [2010-05-05 15:32:29] <Alias> Well, it's also got all the measures mentioned above.
  177. [2010-05-05 15:32:52] <Trace> Ghost you swapped its for it's again
  178. [2010-05-05 15:33:13] <Trace> ...I think it shoudl be its
  179. [2010-05-05 15:33:31] <Kald> You're right, Trace
  180. [2010-05-05 15:33:38] <A_Fat_Ghost> son, if you worry about my punctuation over internet relay chat
  181. [2010-05-05 15:33:43] <A_Fat_Ghost> you're not going to have a fun time here.
  182. [2010-05-05 15:33:59] <A_Fat_Ghost> to quote mister zimmerman, I GUARANTEE IT
  183. [2010-05-05 15:35:10] <Kald> Anyway
  184. [2010-05-05 15:35:16] <Kald> Did anybody see the new Homestuck page
  185. [2010-05-05 15:35:34] <A_Fat_Ghost> now, concerning the containment procedures, perhaps craneflies or something should be used instead of wasps
  186. [2010-05-05 15:35:57] <A_Fat_Ghost> if you've counting on the item's phobia, it's probably best not to introduce a bunch of bugs that might sting it to death
  187. [2010-05-05 15:35:59] <Kald> ...say, could somebody link me that draft? I'm suddenly interested.
  188. [2010-05-05 15:36:06] |<-- Piedmont2 has left irc.synirc.net (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
  189. [2010-05-05 15:36:13] <A_Fat_Ghost> http://scpsandboxwiki.wikidot.com/alias
  190. [2010-05-05 15:38:09] <Alias> Crane flies... oh, /those/ things. Yeah, that would probably work better.
  191. [2010-05-05 15:38:12] * Alias shudder
  192. [2010-05-05 15:38:32] <A_Fat_Ghost> craneflies come to mind just because they're big and annoying
  193. [2010-05-05 15:39:23] <A_Fat_Ghost> there are probably better ones to use
  194. [2010-05-05 15:41:01] <Alias> Maybe blackflies? They're bitey without being potentially life threatening, and it might manage to kill a swarm of crane flies.
  195. [2010-05-05 15:41:18] <A_Fat_Ghost> go for it
  196. [2010-05-05 15:42:30] <A_Fat_Ghost> in the description section, you could probably ditch "always longer than a week and shorter than a year,"
  197. [2010-05-05 15:42:43] <A_Fat_Ghost> since you list a mean time right afterward
  198. [2010-05-05 15:43:40] <Alias> Right.
  199. [2010-05-05 15:43:44] -->| Soren (~Compaq_Ow@synIRC-63CA9912.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com) has joined #site19
  200. [2010-05-05 15:43:57] <Quikngruvn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schmidt_Sting_Pain_Index
  201. [2010-05-05 15:44:01] <Sparks> "Tall and then" you mean "Tall and thin", yes?
  202. [2010-05-05 15:44:27] <Alias> ...yes I do.
  203. [2010-05-05 15:44:43] <Alias> That typo survived a lot of proofreading >.>
  204. [2010-05-05 15:45:06] <Quikngruvn> "2.0 Yellowjacket: Hot and smoky, almost irreverent. Imagine W. C. Fields extinguishing a cigar on your tongue."
  205. [2010-05-05 15:45:16] <A_Fat_Ghost> the first entry in the bullet list there is one of those situations where you could drop "SCP-XXX" in favour of "it"
  206. [2010-05-05 15:45:30] <Quikngruvn> "3.0 Red harvester ant: Bold and unrelenting. Somebody is using a drill to excavate your ingrown toenail."
  207. [2010-05-05 15:46:00] <Quikngruvn> "4.0+ Bullet ant: Pure, intense, brilliant pain. Like fire-walking over flaming charcoal with a 3-inch rusty nail in your heel."
  208. [2010-05-05 15:46:37] <Alias> Oh, I missed that one. I meant to removed all the SCP-XXXs from the addendum. There, got it.
  209. [2010-05-05 15:49:20] -->| Wallflower (Mibbit@synIRC-7B896219.n1.vanderbilt.edu) has joined #site19
  210. [2010-05-05 15:49:45] <Alias> ...I assume they named the bullet ant because its bite feels like being shot?
  211. [2010-05-05 15:50:03] <Quikngruvn> Probably. The scale only goes up to 4.
  212. [2010-05-05 15:50:48] * AssertiveRoland hrm hrm hrm
  213. [2010-05-05 15:51:21] <Quikngruvn> Also, I would be disappointed if the wasps were totally removed from the containment procedures, but that's just me.
  214. [2010-05-05 15:51:46] <Alias> Honestly black flies are almost worse.
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  217. [2010-05-05 15:52:23] <qntm> A rock the size of your home town.
  218. [2010-05-05 15:52:32] <Alias> Imagine a mosquito that you cannot kill no matter how hard you try >.>
  219. [2010-05-05 15:52:37] <qntm> Incoming at eleven kay em ess.
  220. [2010-05-05 15:52:51] <A_Fat_Ghost> what do
  221. [2010-05-05 15:53:02] <qntm> On impact: near-instantaneous human extinction.
  222. [2010-05-05 15:53:03] <A_Fat_Ghost> welcome back son
  223. [2010-05-05 15:53:09] <qntm> You have one hundred minutes. It's time to save the world.
  224. [2010-05-05 15:53:14] <Tom90deg> Evening all
  225. [2010-05-05 15:53:32] <Tom90deg> 100 minutes to save the world? bit of a tall order
  226. [2010-05-05 15:53:35] <A_Fat_Ghost> related: http://www.nfb.ca/film/blackfly/
  227. [2010-05-05 15:53:47] <qntm> Exactly the length of the motion picture, as luck would have it!
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  229. [2010-05-05 15:53:57] <TheRaven> Fuck blackflies.
  230. [2010-05-05 15:54:00] <A_Fat_Ghost> morning tommydegger
  231. [2010-05-05 15:54:09] <TheRaven> But deerflies are the worst in the world.
  232. [2010-05-05 15:54:16] <Tom90deg> Evening AFG
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  234. [2010-05-05 15:54:35] <Tom90deg> dunno, I hate those big ol flies that take a chunk out of you when they bite...forget the name..
  235. [2010-05-05 15:54:41] <Eric_H> Good afternoon everyone
  236. [2010-05-05 15:54:54] <TheRaven> Those are deerflies
  237. [2010-05-05 15:55:27] <Alias> Oh gah >.> "DEET-based insect repellents may attract greater numbers of black flies"
  238. [2010-05-05 15:55:36] <Alias> Well I'm not trying that again.
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  240. [2010-05-05 15:55:53] <Eric_H> Tom: horseflies.
  241. [2010-05-05 15:55:56] <A_Fat_Ghost> yeah horse/deer/gad flies are pretty much dicks
  242. [2010-05-05 15:56:27] <Tom90deg> indeed
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  245. [2010-05-05 15:56:43] <Tom90deg> they still use DDT over here in india
  246. [2010-05-05 15:56:52] <Eric_H> Really, Alias? So you get poisoned, plus you ATTRACT flies? Yech.
  247. [2010-05-05 15:57:25] <Tom90deg> i think it's diluted or something, or it's another chemical with the initals DDT
  248. [2010-05-05 15:57:35] <Eric_H> At least DDT works.
  249. [2010-05-05 15:57:37] <A_Fat_Ghost> in north ontar-i-o-i-o
  250. [2010-05-05 15:58:16] <AssertiveRoland> Anybody up to read a draft of my short story thing?
  251. [2010-05-05 15:58:16] <Eric_H> Here it got banned 30 years ago, so now there is a bedbug epidemic in the US.
  252. [2010-05-05 15:58:18] <Tom90deg> It...kinda does
  253. [2010-05-05 15:58:18] <TheRaven> It takes a hellofalot more than DEET to keep mosquitoes away here,
  254. [2010-05-05 15:58:35] <Tom90deg> the problem is that it kills all the mosquios. Except the ones resistant to DDT
  255. [2010-05-05 15:58:51] <Tom90deg> and then all the wildlife that eats mosquietos die from lack of food
  256. [2010-05-05 15:58:59] <AssertiveRoland> http://pastebin.com/zCdjPSF4
  257. [2010-05-05 15:59:01] <AssertiveRoland> Check it out folks
  258. [2010-05-05 15:59:02] <Tom90deg> then the DDT resistant mosquietos swarm
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  260. [2010-05-05 15:59:21] <TheRaven> http://img.webmd.com/dtmcms/live/webmd/consumer_assets/site_images/articles/health_tools/bad_bugs_slideshow/getty_rm_photo_of_deerfly.jpg
  261. [2010-05-05 15:59:33] <Tom90deg> On a happier note, Apple may be (finaly) getting invsstigated by the DOJ
  262. [2010-05-05 15:59:33] <TheRaven> That is a deerfly. We get them by the millions.
  263. [2010-05-05 15:59:46] <Sparks> Tom90deg: for?
  264. [2010-05-05 16:00:18] <Tom90deg> Uncompetive practices, the Adobe thing is getting them on their radar
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  266. [2010-05-05 16:00:59] <Gwendolyn> Uncompetive?
  267. [2010-05-05 16:01:11] <TheRaven> The Iphone SDK thing.
  268. [2010-05-05 16:01:13] <Tom90deg> Or something..hold on
  269. [2010-05-05 16:01:30] <A_Fat_Ghost> http://www.nfb.ca/film/log_drivers_waltz
  270. [2010-05-05 16:01:50] <Tom90deg> yah, they (I think) changed the EUA at the last moment, to basicaly freeze any Flash development
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  272. [2010-05-05 16:02:34] <TheRaven> Basically, HERP DERP NO FLASH FOR U.
  273. [2010-05-05 16:02:42] <Tom90deg> http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/wsj-confirms-apple-under-preliminary-antitrust-investigation-ove/
  274. [2010-05-05 16:02:52] * AssertiveRoland waits for any feedback
  275. [2010-05-05 16:03:00] <Tom90deg> I just think it's funny in a way that if MS was doing this, people would be screaming bloody murder
  276. [2010-05-05 16:03:06] <Tom90deg> moent AR, readin
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  278. [2010-05-05 16:03:38] <Trae> Whatcha reading?
  279. [2010-05-05 16:04:10] <Tom90deg> short stroy by AR
  280. [2010-05-05 16:04:32] <Trace> ...what happened to phones being used to CALL PEOPLE
  281. [2010-05-05 16:04:45] <TheRaven> ^
  282. [2010-05-05 16:04:53] <Tom90deg> Computers got small enough to fit in phones :)
  283. [2010-05-05 16:04:54] <Quikngruvn> How 20th Century.
  284. [2010-05-05 16:05:16] <Loreweaver> AR!
  285. [2010-05-05 16:05:18] * Loreweaver hucks Roland into a vat full of Dr Manhattan schlongs
  286. [2010-05-05 16:05:22] <Eric_H> Roland...good story, but the line "the eyes raised a half-filled glass" kind of threw me.
  287. [2010-05-05 16:05:37] <Trace> Screw the microcomputer WHERE IS MY FLYING CAR THAT FOLDS INTO A BRIEFCASE
  288. [2010-05-05 16:05:45] <Clef> BEHOLDERS
  289. [2010-05-05 16:07:05] <Eric_H> Trace, have you got my jetpack?
  290. [2010-05-05 16:07:05] <AssertiveRoland> AUGH!
  291. [2010-05-05 16:07:05] * AssertiveRoland is subjected to a fate worse than death
  292. [2010-05-05 16:07:05] <AssertiveRoland> Any feedback, Eric?
  293. [2010-05-05 16:07:05] <AssertiveRoland> does it provide a sense of menace?
  294. [2010-05-05 16:07:15] <Eric_H> Roland, yes...good sense of menace (once I went back to see what SCP-140 was).
  295. [2010-05-05 16:07:18] <Loreweaver> >=3
  296. [2010-05-05 16:07:18] <Loreweaver> I actually came in after you posted the link
  297. [2010-05-05 16:07:18] <Loreweaver> Repoast?
  298. [2010-05-05 16:07:31] <AssertiveRoland> http://pastebin.com/zCdjPSF4
  299. [2010-05-05 16:08:14] <AssertiveRoland> The story is more-or-less done, although I hope my assumptions about how the Foundation's personnel would treat the viewpoint character are more or less accurate?
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  301. [2010-05-05 16:10:37] <Trae> I'd rather have a teleporter. Or a holoroom.
  302. [2010-05-05 16:11:31] <AssertiveRoland> ?
  303. [2010-05-05 16:11:41] <A_Fat_Ghost> who's this trae?
  304. [2010-05-05 16:12:13] <Loreweaver> Hrm
  305. [2010-05-05 16:12:23] <Loreweaver> It's well-written
  306. [2010-05-05 16:12:46] <AssertiveRoland> But...?
  307. [2010-05-05 16:12:55] <AssertiveRoland> I sense a but
  308. [2010-05-05 16:12:57] <Loreweaver> But the Foundation is founded upon overcaution. He'd be bitter, yes, because his warning didn't matter--not because the Foundation didn't take steps.
  309. [2010-05-05 16:13:05] <Loreweaver> Other than that
  310. [2010-05-05 16:13:15] <Loreweaver> A few wordings choices I wouldn't have made, but very good
  311. [2010-05-05 16:13:46] <AssertiveRoland> My presumption was twofold
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  313. [2010-05-05 16:14:31] * Trae has been playing Warcraft 3 recently. Is so far behind the gaming times.
  314. [2010-05-05 16:14:44] <AssertiveRoland> the first is that it IS a little ambiguous if, even subconsciously, Thomas basically decided "Fuck it, they don't take me seriously anyways" and didn't make his feelings on the danger clear
  315. [2010-05-05 16:14:45] <Loreweaver> WC II is where it's at
  316. [2010-05-05 16:15:03] <AssertiveRoland> I mean, he's in an intensely frustrating position, right?
  317. [2010-05-05 16:15:12] <Loreweaver> Hrm
  318. [2010-05-05 16:15:15] <Loreweaver> That's true
  319. [2010-05-05 16:15:33] <AssertiveRoland> The Foundation's basically scientific; it's a hard sciences club. He's one of the few soft sciences/history guys, so I don't think he gets that much respect
  320. [2010-05-05 16:15:49] <Loreweaver> And he's in a sticky position because if he HAD warned them properly it might have been different
  321. [2010-05-05 16:16:00] <AssertiveRoland> Combine that with the maddening fact that he's expected to spout information for them, but not allowed to actually be a HISTORIAN, and he'd be intensely bitter
  322. [2010-05-05 16:16:47] <AssertiveRoland> He's not allowed to publish his research, teach, or further human knowledge- if anything SCP-140-A has a point; he's basically being told to waste his talents
  323. [2010-05-05 16:17:00] <TheRaven> SCP-140
  324. [2010-05-05 16:17:01] <Nala> TheRaven: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-140 - An Incomplete Chronicle
  325. [2010-05-05 16:17:24] <AssertiveRoland> So he may have had that subconscious "You know what, they don't give a shit anyways. They've turned me into a chronicler, not a historian. This'll show them."
  326. [2010-05-05 16:17:38] <Alias> 140 really was a good one.
  327. [2010-05-05 16:17:43] <AssertiveRoland> VERY subconscious; he's not supposed to be an evil man
  328. [2010-05-05 16:17:49] <AssertiveRoland> but it might have been a factor
  329. [2010-05-05 16:17:56] <Loreweaver> And he's in a sticky position because if he HAD warned them properly it might have been different
  330. [2010-05-05 16:17:56] <Loreweaver> Hrm
  331. [2010-05-05 16:17:56] <Loreweaver> Also true I suppose
  332. [2010-05-05 16:17:56] <Loreweaver> But I think that the first thing to be eliminated from an organization like the Foundation would be beaurocratic politics
  333. [2010-05-05 16:17:56] <Loreweaver> They're inefficient
  334. [2010-05-05 16:17:56] <Loreweaver> Dangerous
  335. [2010-05-05 16:17:56] <Loreweaver> And harmful to humanity as an whole
  336. [2010-05-05 16:18:13] <AssertiveRoland> That and, well, there's probably no reasonable way to have warned them anyways
  337. [2010-05-05 16:18:44] <AssertiveRoland> You do know what I mean by the distinction between chronicler and historian, right?
  338. [2010-05-05 16:19:04] <AssertiveRoland> it's a very neurotic distinction
  339. [2010-05-05 16:19:17] <Loreweaver> True
  340. [2010-05-05 16:19:31] <Loreweaver> No, it's very well done, i approve heartily
  341. [2010-05-05 16:20:00] <AssertiveRoland> Ok, and I'm not violating canon or anything by having him be treated that way?
  342. [2010-05-05 16:20:01] <Loreweaver> I simply believe that the Foundation wouldn't have ignored ANY reasonable warning, so you're right, he must have said fuck it
  343. [2010-05-05 16:20:19] <AssertiveRoland> I don't want the Foundation to come off as incompetent, I've just assumed they're very science-biased
  344. [2010-05-05 16:20:27] <A_Fat_Ghost> well
  345. [2010-05-05 16:20:31] <A_Fat_Ghost> science is important, yes
  346. [2010-05-05 16:20:42] <Loreweaver> Yes, it is
  347. [2010-05-05 16:20:44] <Loreweaver> But
  348. [2010-05-05 16:20:46] <A_Fat_Ghost> but there are also a lot of considerations that have to be made about the items themselves
  349. [2010-05-05 16:20:46] <Loreweaver> But but but
  350. [2010-05-05 16:20:51] <A_Fat_Ghost> and their histories, if relevant
  351. [2010-05-05 16:20:52] <Loreweaver> They're a protection agency
  352. [2010-05-05 16:20:56] <DWR> The foundation is also very practical.
  353. [2010-05-05 16:21:00] <Loreweaver> With a lot of experience with the inexplicable
  354. [2010-05-05 16:21:16] <Loreweaver> They DO NOT ignore warnings because they're 'silly'
  355. [2010-05-05 16:21:21] <A_Fat_Ghost> all the stuff that basically isn't put into the article because it has nothing to do with actually containing the thing
  356. [2010-05-05 16:21:38] <Loreweaver> Even 'I think 131 has Keter potential' WILL be examined, HOWEVER brief it may be
  357. [2010-05-05 16:21:53] <A_Fat_Ghost> personally, I'm not exactly sure what's supposed to have happened at the dig being alluded to, or even who was digging for what
  358. [2010-05-05 16:22:29] <Loreweaver> Probably a surviving relic of the civilization got loose
  359. [2010-05-05 16:22:38] <DWR> http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/7609/hyut0npnbvt8.jpg
  360. [2010-05-05 16:22:48] <AssertiveRoland> It's in the article, Fat_Ghost. A Foundation archaeological team was digging up a site from the civilization
  361. [2010-05-05 16:22:56] <Trae> Hehe.
  362. [2010-05-05 16:23:11] <AssertiveRoland> and Bad Things Happened, they Woke Somewhat Which Was Not Meant To Be Woken, et cetera, et cetera
  363. [2010-05-05 16:23:12] <A_Fat_Ghost> ah
  364. [2010-05-05 16:23:21] <Loreweaver> Heehee
  365. [2010-05-05 16:23:29] <Loreweaver> 'I am not a clever man'
  366. [2010-05-05 16:23:44] <AssertiveRoland> So I'm being unfair in my presumption?
  367. [2010-05-05 16:24:00] <A_Fat_Ghost> not really
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  369. [2010-05-05 16:24:21] <A_Fat_Ghost> that's just your interpretation of events concerning an item that were otherwise not mentioned
  370. [2010-05-05 16:24:22] <Alias> Roland, would you mind if other people made SCPs connected to you Daevites? Not that I have anything particular in mind, but >.>
  371. [2010-05-05 16:24:25] <TroyL> Is CandidKiss's chat alter ego on right now?
  372. [2010-05-05 16:24:32] <AssertiveRoland> Not at all, Alias; I'd love it
  373. [2010-05-05 16:24:37] <A_Fat_Ghost> chat alter ego?
  374. [2010-05-05 16:24:39] <Loreweaver> =D
  375. [2010-05-05 16:24:40] <Loreweaver> Awesome.
  376. [2010-05-05 16:24:41] * AssertiveRoland would be positively tickled with delight
  377. [2010-05-05 16:24:44] <A_Fat_Ghost> what are you talking about?
  378. [2010-05-05 16:24:57] <Loreweaver> I was thinking of having Agent Finn encounter one or two as well
  379. [2010-05-05 16:25:01] <AssertiveRoland> Anyways, I doubt the Foundation exactly sponsors historical lectures or anything
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  381. [2010-05-05 16:25:36] <TroyL> There are about a dozen people who's chat names differ from their wiki names, and I've never seen anyone named "CandidKiss" in the chat, so I assumed they were different entities.
  382. [2010-05-05 16:25:51] <A_Fat_Ghost> candid has the same username both on and off irc
  383. [2010-05-05 16:25:58] <TroyL> Cooltimes.
  384. [2010-05-05 16:26:00] <Trae> Would discovered artifacts be given sub-SCP numbers or is it only the book?
  385. [2010-05-05 16:26:05] <Loreweaver> Jes' for clarification I don't usually vary my current handle x3
  386. [2010-05-05 16:26:07] <TroyL> Now I know, and knowing is half the battle.
  387. [2010-05-05 16:26:11] * MisterBibs done wrote a new story: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/the-improbable-bibs
  388. [2010-05-05 16:26:19] <AssertiveRoland> Which is a large part of Thomas' frustration- (he's my in-universe parallel). He wanted to be a teacher
  389. [2010-05-05 16:26:39] <AssertiveRoland> and the Foundation basically snapped him up and said "screw that" after he Found Something That Was Not Supposed To Be There
  390. [2010-05-05 16:26:46] <DWR> Trae: just because an SCP is linked doesn't mean it has the same number.
  391. [2010-05-05 16:26:47] <A_Fat_Ghost> "a finite about of good luck in the universe"?
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  393. [2010-05-05 16:27:12] <MisterBibs> doh
  394. [2010-05-05 16:27:15] <AssertiveRoland> so he's been basically told "You can't do what you wanted to do in your life; welcome to a life as a glorified encyclopedia"
  395. [2010-05-05 16:27:32] <AssertiveRoland> And, quite frankly, his colleagues scare the crap out of him. :-P
  396. [2010-05-05 16:27:34] <Loreweaver> Question for the veterans
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  398. [2010-05-05 16:27:54] <AssertiveRoland> Trae, you can make them new numbers.
  399. [2010-05-05 16:27:57] <A_Fat_Ghost> also, you don't need to turn item designations into links
  400. [2010-05-05 16:28:01] <Loreweaver> If a Foundation employee wants to retire from service, are they given the MIB retirement option?
  401. [2010-05-05 16:28:06] <A_Fat_Ghost> kind of detracts from the narrative, I think
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  404. [2010-05-05 16:28:18] <MrUnimport> EXAMS SOON, FELLOW IB-ERS
  405. [2010-05-05 16:28:22] <AssertiveRoland> Who, me, Ghost?
  406. [2010-05-05 16:28:24] <MrUnimport> (when?)
  407. [2010-05-05 16:28:25] <MrUnimport> NOW
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  409. [2010-05-05 16:28:38] <MisterBibs> Hmm, I'll take that in mind when I edit it later; as you can tell I have a habit of typing quickly
  410. [2010-05-05 16:28:45] <Trae> Well I just mean that artifacts that are created by 140 don't necessarily have their own powers. But something created by a SCP is usually linked to it with a sub.
  411. [2010-05-05 16:28:58] <AssertiveRoland> Hrm...
  412. [2010-05-05 16:29:01] <AssertiveRoland> Good question
  413. [2010-05-05 16:29:23] <Loreweaver> Oh
  414. [2010-05-05 16:29:23] <Loreweaver> A suggestion
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  416. [2010-05-05 16:29:42] <Loreweaver> If, like this, there are sub-SCPs
  417. [2010-05-05 16:29:59] <A_Fat_Ghost> bibs
  418. [2010-05-05 16:30:11] <A_Fat_Ghost> I'm sorry, but I'm about six paragraphs in, and all I can see is
  419. [2010-05-05 16:30:12] <MisterBibs> yup>?
  420. [2010-05-05 16:30:14] <A_Fat_Ghost> BIBS IS GREAT YAY BIBS
  421. [2010-05-05 16:30:20] <MisterBibs> hahah
  422. [2010-05-05 16:30:21] <MisterBibs> read on.
  423. [2010-05-05 16:30:23] <AssertiveRoland> The way I'd do it is this, Trae.
  424. [2010-05-05 16:30:37] <Trae> Nothing required of course, just personal curiosity.
  425. [2010-05-05 16:30:50] <DWR> Ghost, go to the end.
  426. [2010-05-05 16:31:00] <AssertiveRoland> Artifacts only relevant to 140's article, such as ordinary archaeological relics, recovered documents and primary sources, etc...should be linked to 140.
  427. [2010-05-05 16:31:19] <AssertiveRoland> In a supplementary article
  428. [2010-05-05 16:31:28] <AssertiveRoland> like 93's "recovered materials" log
  429. [2010-05-05 16:31:31] <Loreweaver> If, like this, there are sub-SCPs
  430. [2010-05-05 16:31:31] <Loreweaver> Maybe we should group them as sub-articles
  431. [2010-05-05 16:31:31] <Loreweaver> Like an entry coded SCP-140-A
  432. [2010-05-05 16:31:31] <Loreweaver> Or 1 or whatever
  433. [2010-05-05 16:31:31] <Loreweaver> Though
  434. [2010-05-05 16:31:31] <Loreweaver> That would mean we'd have to change the decommission terminology
  435. [2010-05-05 16:31:31] <Loreweaver> Gah, internet troubles
  436. [2010-05-05 16:31:31] <Loreweaver> What'd I miss after my last chain of posts?
  437. [2010-05-05 16:32:00] <AssertiveRoland> Artifacts that are SCPs in their own right and would be able to stand on their own with no direct tie-in to 140 itself should be separate entries
  438. [2010-05-05 16:32:10] <AssertiveRoland> and their connection should be primarily implied rather than directly stated
  439. [2010-05-05 16:32:13] <A_Fat_Ghost> yeah, I sort of expected it to be something like that
  440. [2010-05-05 16:32:42] <DWR> Bibs told me what he was doing with this.
  441. [2010-05-05 16:32:44] <DWR> I found it hilarious.
  442. [2010-05-05 16:32:55] <A_Fat_Ghost> but that kinds of tips it more toward being a tl;dr version of CHOWDERCLEF
  443. [2010-05-05 16:33:52] <A_Fat_Ghost> the very short paragraphs aren't really doing it for me either
  444. [2010-05-05 16:34:00] <Trae> Yeah, that's what I mean. Just something that was created in the process of the book 'writing' itself, the artifact would be noted. Something that gains it's own powers it something entirely different.
  445. [2010-05-05 16:34:21] <MisterBibs> I've never been able to get past my habit of short paragraphs
  446. [2010-05-05 16:34:31] <TroyL> I thought it was funny.
  447. [2010-05-05 16:34:37] * TroyL shrugs
  448. [2010-05-05 16:34:42] <A_Fat_Ghost> protip: delete linebreaks
  449. [2010-05-05 16:34:45] <AssertiveRoland> Seems accurate, Trae. Although innocuous daevite artifacts should probably still have their own separate article, since the page for 140 should just be "Don't let this damn thing anywhere near ink"
  450. [2010-05-05 16:35:03] <AssertiveRoland> Actually...you know, I've a Notion
  451. [2010-05-05 16:35:04] * AssertiveRoland hrms
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  459. [2010-05-05 18:22:50] <Automaton> you're not allowed to draw explicit attention to your exceptional qualities
  460. [2010-05-05 18:23:05] <Automaton> it makes for an arrogant character or worse an arrogant author
  461. [2010-05-05 18:23:16] <Alias> I know I was kidding.
  462. [2010-05-05 18:23:38] <AssertiveRoland> Oh, I didn't mean to do that at all, actually
  463. [2010-05-05 18:23:56] =-= YOU are now known as Ravinoff
  464. [2010-05-05 18:24:01] <AssertiveRoland> If anything when I came up with the notion I was trying to restrain the natural urge to make a character all Awesome
  465. [2010-05-05 18:24:13] * teaflower eats Agasa's hat for him
  466. [2010-05-05 18:24:28] <Automaton> i know you were kidding alias, but i'm not certain /everyone/ knew you were
  467. [2010-05-05 18:24:40] <AssertiveRoland> was trying to *reduce* potential for any sort of Sueness
  468. [2010-05-05 18:25:01] <Alias> Sueness is the wrong word really.
  469. [2010-05-05 18:25:13] <AssertiveRoland> I know. I hate the term myself
  470. [2010-05-05 18:25:13] <Quikngruvn> As long as you maximize the potential for Suessness.
  471. [2010-05-05 18:25:14] <Automaton> and AR, i'm sure it was of the best intention, but sueness is a tough nut to crack
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  473. [2010-05-05 18:25:26] <Alias> The trouble isn't making a bad character, but making one that doesn't fit into the world.
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  475. [2010-05-05 18:25:31] <Quikngruvn> Er, Seussness.
  476. [2010-05-05 18:26:00] * Quikngruvn goes back to cursing server apps.
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  478. [2010-05-05 18:26:09] =-= Nioki_ is now known as Nioki
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  480. [2010-05-05 18:27:28] <Loreweaving> Hey guys
  481. [2010-05-05 18:27:31] <AssertiveRoland> So I just kinda went with what I figured an ordinary academic would be like instead
  482. [2010-05-05 18:27:32] <Moose_Fisher> hey
  483. [2010-05-05 18:27:35] <AssertiveRoland> Yes, Lore?
  484. [2010-05-05 18:27:38] <Loreweaving> What are shovel blades usually made of?
  485. [2010-05-05 18:27:42] <Loreweaving> Steel?
  486. [2010-05-05 18:27:43] <Loreweaving> Iron?
  487. [2010-05-05 18:27:45] <Loreweaving> What?
  488. [2010-05-05 18:27:48] <AssertiveRoland> (also, do I have to post a 'New Stories' dealie?)
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  490. [2010-05-05 18:27:52] <Moose_Fisher> Stainless Steel probably
  491. [2010-05-05 18:27:57] <Moose_Fisher> To avoid rusting
  492. [2010-05-05 18:28:01] <AssertiveRoland> I think steel. Iron's usually heavier and more brittle
  493. [2010-05-05 18:28:47] <Moose_Fisher> You know... I've kinda lost my password to my registered name >_>
  494. [2010-05-05 18:28:58] <Automaton> AR: i must admit i know nothing about your character, i have read nothing involving him. all i know is that you showed up and declared him "the <something>-est character here" which makes me suspect Sueism
  495. [2010-05-05 18:29:03] <Moose_Fisher> Can Mibbit send me something to get it back?
  496. [2010-05-05 18:29:22] <Automaton> yes, i believe so
  497. [2010-05-05 18:29:30] <Automaton> well, maybe not mibbit
  498. [2010-05-05 18:29:38] <AssertiveRoland> Wimphood is Sue material? -Huh-. :-P
  499. [2010-05-05 18:29:44] <Moose_Fisher> Right now i'm using chatzilla
  500. [2010-05-05 18:29:48] <AssertiveRoland> I know, Auto, I was just being silly anyways
  501. [2010-05-05 18:29:54] <Loreweaving> Thanks guys
  502. [2010-05-05 18:30:00] <Automaton> but considering synirc requires an email address
  503. [2010-05-05 18:30:05] <Loreweaving> Oh
  504. [2010-05-05 18:30:10] <Loreweaving> What kind of wood?
  505. [2010-05-05 18:30:17] <AssertiveRoland> Various woods
  506. [2010-05-05 18:30:19] <AssertiveRoland> dunno
  507. [2010-05-05 18:30:22] <Moose_Fisher> Only the purist of mahogany
  508. [2010-05-05 18:30:29] <Automaton> i have wood?
  509. [2010-05-05 18:30:37] <Moose_Fisher> Torn away from weeping villiagers
  510. [2010-05-05 18:31:28] <Moose_Fisher> I really should write more : |
  511. [2010-05-05 18:31:58] <Moose_Fisher> I've mostly been lurking off and on
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  513. [2010-05-05 18:33:10] <Automaton> it's cool, I haven't written anything in like half a year
  514. [2010-05-05 18:33:30] <Automaton> or however long i've been here
  515. [2010-05-05 18:33:32] * Moose_Fisher offers Automaton a procrastination high-five
  516. [2010-05-05 18:33:41] * Automaton highfives
  517. [2010-05-05 18:33:55] <Automaton> see my problem is i can't come up with ideas
  518. [2010-05-05 18:34:08] <Moose_Fisher> Read stuff, twist and adapt?
  519. [2010-05-05 18:34:13] <Automaton> and then even once i do, i'm not that good at creepy
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  521. [2010-05-05 18:34:29] <Moose_Fisher> Think of what you're afraid of
  522. [2010-05-05 18:34:37] <Automaton> i can only ever pull off humorous
  523. [2010-05-05 18:34:53] <Automaton> ... but i'm not
  524. [2010-05-05 18:35:03] <Automaton> i'm not really afraid of much
  525. [2010-05-05 18:35:06] * Moose_Fisher shrugs
  526. [2010-05-05 18:35:25] * Automaton shrugs as well
  527. [2010-05-05 18:35:26] <Moose_Fisher> Read some Lovecraft? :P
  528. [2010-05-05 18:35:40] <Automaton> never liked lovecraft
  529. [2010-05-05 18:36:04] * Moose_Fisher gasps
  530. [2010-05-05 18:36:10] <Moose_Fisher> I understand though
  531. [2010-05-05 18:36:35] <Moose_Fisher> I haven't really read the Mythos stuff, mostly his earlier works
  532. [2010-05-05 18:36:57] <DWR> Lovecraft's dream stuff was awesome.
  533. [2010-05-05 18:37:08] <Moose_Fisher> Yeah, I need to get to that one too : |
  534. [2010-05-05 18:37:15] <Moose_Fisher> I like Rats in the Walls
  535. [2010-05-05 18:37:19] <Moose_Fisher> and the Lurking Fear
  536. [2010-05-05 18:37:30] <Automaton> my approach to lovecraft is the same as my approach to war hammer
  537. [2010-05-05 18:37:40] <Moose_Fisher> and that is?
  538. [2010-05-05 18:37:42] <Automaton> i know enough to make a couple of jokes
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  540. [2010-05-05 18:37:58] <Automaton> but i certainly don't want to bother getting into it
  541. [2010-05-05 18:39:08] <Moose_Fisher> hmmm... Have you read House of Leaves?
  542. [2010-05-05 18:39:18] <Automaton> me?
  543. [2010-05-05 18:39:20] <Automaton> no
  544. [2010-05-05 18:39:37] <Moose_Fisher> You may like it. It's a strange book
  545. [2010-05-05 18:39:55] <Automaton> you know what's good?
  546. [2010-05-05 18:40:10] <Moose_Fisher> It's a book about a book about a movie about a house that is a labrynth
  547. [2010-05-05 18:40:20] <Automaton> Neil Gaiman's Sandman series
  548. [2010-05-05 18:40:28] <Moose_Fisher> I agree
  549. [2010-05-05 18:40:41] <Alias> Yay sandman.'
  550. [2010-05-05 18:40:45] <Moose_Fisher> I didn't really finish the Wake >_>
  551. [2010-05-05 18:41:00] <Moose_Fisher> Just the funeral stuff
  552. [2010-05-05 18:41:02] <Automaton> i only have 3 volumes... >.>
  553. [2010-05-05 18:41:23] <Moose_Fisher> I had a CD full of scans... but I don't know what I did with it
  554. [2010-05-05 18:41:27] <Nioki> Mm, Sandman.
  555. [2010-05-05 18:41:37] <Nioki> Neil Gaiman is amazing.
  556. [2010-05-05 18:41:56] <Moose_Fisher> I need to read more of his stuff
  557. [2010-05-05 18:42:12] <DWR> Fisher: finish the Wake.
  558. [2010-05-05 18:42:18] <Moose_Fisher> I need to read more in general... But I use my time up with other things -_-
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  560. [2010-05-05 18:42:23] <DWR> It really does bring closure.
  561. [2010-05-05 18:42:26] <Nioki> Do so. I recommend basically everything he's written.
  562. [2010-05-05 18:42:59] <Nioki> American Gods, Anansi Boys, Neverwhere... just do it.
  563. [2010-05-05 18:43:07] <Moose_Fisher> Well, soon I'll be free from high school, then real life can begin
  564. [2010-05-05 18:43:24] <Nioki> I'll be graduating in a few weeks as well.
  565. [2010-05-05 18:43:42] <Automaton> i graduated two years ago now
  566. [2010-05-05 18:43:54] <AssertiveRoland> Damnit, Glee, why does your version of Don't Stop Believin' have to be such an ear worm!
  567. [2010-05-05 18:44:00] <Automaton> i kinda feel like i wasted it all
  568. [2010-05-05 18:44:09] <Automaton> but i found this place
  569. [2010-05-05 18:44:11] <Moose_Fisher> your two years?
  570. [2010-05-05 18:44:32] <Automaton> met clocks, got a girlfriend, so it wasn't a complete loss
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  572. [2010-05-05 18:45:27] * Nioki shall be college bound.
  573. [2010-05-05 18:45:35] <AssertiveRoland> Ah, yeah, you miss college too, huh?
  574. [2010-05-05 18:45:44] * Automaton was college bound
  575. [2010-05-05 18:45:49] * Automaton will be again
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  578. [2010-05-05 18:49:39] * Automaton failed
  579. [2010-05-05 18:49:47] * Automaton failed pretty hard
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  581. [2010-05-05 18:50:18] <Moose_Fisher> Fail?
  582. [2010-05-05 18:50:32] <Automaton> it's what i get for thinking i could handle college at 17 frsh out of high school
  583. [2010-05-05 18:50:35] <Ecks> guys
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  585. [2010-05-05 18:50:49] <Clef> http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Dallas-Braden-blasts-A-Rod-for-breaking-unwritte?urn=mlb,236110&cp=4#comments
  586. [2010-05-05 18:50:50] <Automaton> rape?
  587. [2010-05-05 18:50:51] <Ecks> i think paheal is broken
  588. [2010-05-05 18:50:55] <qntm> So I think the basic premise of the next thing I write will be "magic circles".
  589. [2010-05-05 18:51:25] <qntm> Basically, if you 1) inscribe the correct magic circle in any material on any surface, and 2) understand the meaning of the symbols, magic happens.
  590. [2010-05-05 18:51:44] <qntm> If you don't know what the symbols mean, the symbols have no power.
  591. [2010-05-05 18:51:47] <Ecks> like fma?
  592. [2010-05-05 18:52:08] <qntm> I saw one episode of FMA, got bored and junked it.
  593. [2010-05-05 18:52:13] <qntm> But, conceivably.
  594. [2010-05-05 18:52:19] <qntm> The point is that a magic circle can be any size.
  595. [2010-05-05 18:52:21] <AssertiveRoland> Thaumaturgy has to be done -very- carefully, qntm
  596. [2010-05-05 18:52:28] * AssertiveRoland loves that word
  597. [2010-05-05 18:52:33] <qntm> It can be as big as an airfield, or as small as an integrated circuit.
  598. [2010-05-05 18:52:40] <Ecks> just be prepared for everybody to compair to fma
  599. [2010-05-05 18:52:43] <Agasa> om nom nom
  600. [2010-05-05 18:52:49] <Agasa> my hat is deeeelicious.
  601. [2010-05-05 18:52:56] * AssertiveRoland randomly hugs teaflower
  602. [2010-05-05 18:52:56] <Moose_Fisher> So, traditional magical circles?
  603. [2010-05-05 18:53:00] <qntm> Never having seen FMA, I doubt I'll end up unknowingly plagiarising THAT much.
  604. [2010-05-05 18:53:01] <Moose_Fisher> Can I summon something?
  605. [2010-05-05 18:53:36] <qntm> I'm thinking more along the lines of "tiny magical circles drawn all over a ceramic tile and used as a cheap alternative to re-entry heat shields on the Space Shuttle".
  606. [2010-05-05 18:53:55] <Ecks> science magic?
  607. [2010-05-05 18:53:59] <AssertiveRoland> ...that's an interesting notion
  608. [2010-05-05 18:54:03] <AssertiveRoland> Energy conductor?
  609. [2010-05-05 18:54:05] <Automaton> like fma?
  610. [2010-05-05 18:54:09] <qntm> And "big magic circles on the underside of locomotives equals cheap levitation transit"
  611. [2010-05-05 18:54:11] <Clef> :|
  612. [2010-05-05 18:54:18] <qntm> SCIENCE MAGIC, BTICHEDS.
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  614. [2010-05-05 18:54:25] <qntm> Exactly right.
  615. [2010-05-05 18:54:29] <Ecks> can there be magic bullets?
  616. [2010-05-05 18:54:29] <Automaton> srsly, you're describing fma style alchemy
  617. [2010-05-05 18:54:43] * AssertiveRoland waves at Clef
  618. [2010-05-05 18:54:43] <Automaton> this is a bad idea
  619. [2010-05-05 18:54:50] <AssertiveRoland> And yeah, you really are, qntm
  620. [2010-05-05 18:54:53] <qntm> As I understand it the main point of FMA is a principle where the amount of energy in equals the amount of energy out
  621. [2010-05-05 18:54:59] <Moose_Fisher> Hmmm... PHYSICS EQUATIONS OF MAGICAL SCIENCE!
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  628. [2010-05-05 18:55:23] <DWR> http://scpsandboxwiki.wikidot.com/dwr thoughts?
  629. [2010-05-05 18:55:25] <AssertiveRoland> Not that it's a *bad* idea at all, because it's interesting, but folks may not like it for the site itself
  630. [2010-05-05 18:55:33] <qntm> Like I said I only saw 1 episode.
  631. [2010-05-05 18:55:38] <AssertiveRoland> What, I'm not good enough?
  632. [2010-05-05 18:55:41] <qntm> Also this story takes place in the present day.
  633. [2010-05-05 18:55:42] * AssertiveRoland sniffles at DWR
  634. [2010-05-05 18:55:47] <SophosBlitz> qntm: With FMA, you only need to draw a circle, maybe with a few lines and diagrams to symbolize what you want or something, and then think of what you want to transmutate from the available materials. So...yeah, you'll probably plagiarize a lot
  635. [2010-05-05 18:55:51] <qntm> Like, the premise is "what would NASA look like if magic was real"
  636. [2010-05-05 18:55:52] <Moose_Fisher> qntm, you should do some research of magical circles in the real world. How they were used and stuff
  637. [2010-05-05 18:55:59] <Automaton> qntm, it's a cool idea for a game maybe, but as an SCP we suddenly start using magic for everything
  638. [2010-05-05 18:56:03] <DWR> Roland, I like to get thoughts from people who've been here longer than myself.
  639. [2010-05-05 18:56:06] <qntm> "real world"? Hah.
  640. [2010-05-05 18:56:28] <Automaton> it's like making everybody a reality bender
  641. [2010-05-05 18:56:34] <Ecks> dude
  642. [2010-05-05 18:56:37] <Automaton> and then clef gets mad
  643. [2010-05-05 18:56:44] <Moose_Fisher> Well, yeah, magic circles are used in a lot of things
  644. [2010-05-05 18:56:48] <qntm> How would water purification be achieved if magic was real? Air travel? Music distribution?
  645. [2010-05-05 18:56:52] <Ecks> don't bring your crappy rl to my fiction land
  646. [2010-05-05 18:57:04] * Moose_Fisher is confused
  647. [2010-05-05 18:57:05] <SophosBlitz> qntm: Warfare
  648. [2010-05-05 18:57:08] <qntm> Disease prevention? Recycling? Hairstyling?
  649. [2010-05-05 18:57:15] <Ecks> rape?
  650. [2010-05-05 18:57:17] <qntm> Warfare is too obvious.
  651. [2010-05-05 18:57:23] <SophosBlitz> Oh noes, there are terrorists in Iraq
  652. [2010-05-05 18:57:23] <Automaton> oh wait
  653. [2010-05-05 18:57:27] <qntm> Magic war is too obvious.
  654. [2010-05-05 18:57:31] <Moose_Fisher> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_circles
  655. [2010-05-05 18:57:32] <qntm> Magic terrorism, now you're talking.
  656. [2010-05-05 18:57:36] <Automaton> qntm are you just writing up some kind of story?
  657. [2010-05-05 18:57:48] <qntm> Automaton, at the moment I am brainstorming.
  658. [2010-05-05 18:57:52] <Automaton> if so this is an acceptable idea
  659. [2010-05-05 18:57:56] <AssertiveRoland> qntm, again, I personally think it's an interesting idea, but is it a Foundation one?
  660. [2010-05-05 18:58:04] <Automaton> i thought you meant magic circles as an SCP
  661. [2010-05-05 18:58:27] <qntm> Uh, no this has nothing to do with the Foundation.
  662. [2010-05-05 18:58:33] <Automaton> oh ok
  663. [2010-05-05 18:58:35] <qntm> Sorry.
  664. [2010-05-05 18:58:38] * Automaton now approves
  665. [2010-05-05 18:58:40] <SophosBlitz> qntm: You also need a terrible pun like the best thing since sliced bread
  666. [2010-05-05 18:58:54] <Ecks> just remember
  667. [2010-05-05 18:59:00] <Ecks> as you can see from this chat
  668. [2010-05-05 18:59:10] <Ecks> ppl are gonna compair to fma no matter whaty you do
  669. [2010-05-05 18:59:19] <qntm> Screw FMA.
  670. [2010-05-05 18:59:33] <AssertiveRoland> Then by all means expand on it
  671. [2010-05-05 18:59:34] <Moose_Fisher> The Magic Circle is an informal term used to describe collectively what are considered to be either the five, or possibly six, leading London-based law firms, all of which employ primarily solicitors. It is also used as a term to describe the top four Commercial Chambers at the Bar. In the US, the term used to describe the leading firms is White shoe firm.
  672. [2010-05-05 18:59:36] <qntm> I know nothing about it, and the less I know, the less it's plagiarism.
  673. [2010-05-05 18:59:37] <Moose_Fisher> lol
  674. [2010-05-05 19:00:06] <Ecks> that's wasy to say and all but good luck convincing the fans
  675. [2010-05-05 19:00:16] <qntm> FMA isn't set in 2010, either.
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  679. [2010-05-05 19:00:41] <Ecks> don't underestimate weeaboos
  680. [2010-05-05 19:00:43] <Automaton> so are you going to do "suddenly magic"?
  681. [2010-05-05 19:00:45] <Alias> For example if you have a giant sword that eats people and shoots giant lasers, that's just like FMA >.>
  682. [2010-05-05 19:01:02] <SophosBlitz> Alias: Umm...no it's not
  683. [2010-05-05 19:01:07] <Automaton> or are you going to say it was always there
  684. [2010-05-05 19:01:14] <qntm> Not really "suddenly". People figure it out over the course of decades starting during the Cold War.
  685. [2010-05-05 19:01:26] <qntm> It's a US national secret to begin with.
  686. [2010-05-05 19:01:30] <Alias> "Ecks> ppl are gonna compair to fma no matter whaty you do" >.>
  687. [2010-05-05 19:01:32] <Alias> Was kidding.
  688. [2010-05-05 19:01:43] <SophosBlitz> What? Clearly Hitler pioneered the research before Stalin or the US
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  690. [2010-05-05 19:01:50] <Moose_Fisher> These magic circles, are they just something that is written on surfaces for desired effects, or is there more to it?
  691. [2010-05-05 19:02:11] <qntm> There is more to how they work, Moose, but that's irrelevant to the story.
  692. [2010-05-05 19:02:13] <Ecks> do you actualy have to write them or can you just rb tehshape?
  693. [2010-05-05 19:02:22] <qntm> (Then some Skunkworks researcher teaches the basic principles to her 5-year-old kid)
  694. [2010-05-05 19:02:23] <Ecks> and can you do them in air?
  695. [2010-05-05 19:02:31] <Loreweaving> Okay, question
  696. [2010-05-05 19:02:35] <qntm> Gotta write them. In air doesn't count.
  697. [2010-05-05 19:02:56] <qntm> Tying Hitler into this is cliched.
  698. [2010-05-05 19:02:59] <Ecks> what if you use a laser projextor or a spotllight?
  699. [2010-05-05 19:03:35] <Automaton> then qntm walks into the story and slaps you
  700. [2010-05-05 19:03:43] <qntm> If there's a clever filter in the spotlight, then the spotlight is the magic circle, not the thing it's projecting on.
  701. [2010-05-05 19:03:46] <qntm> Probably
  702. [2010-05-05 19:03:52] <qntm> Patterns of light != patterns of matter
  703. [2010-05-05 19:04:03] <Ecks> says you
  704. [2010-05-05 19:04:07] <qntm> I'm working out the rules as I go, honestly
  705. [2010-05-05 19:04:09] <Ecks> light is particles
  706. [2010-05-05 19:04:21] <Automaton> light is waves actually
  707. [2010-05-05 19:04:28] <qntm> Light is transient.
  708. [2010-05-05 19:04:32] <qntm> Matter is permanent.
  709. [2010-05-05 19:04:42] <Ecks> like homeless pppl?
  710. [2010-05-05 19:04:46] <Loreweaving> To get a second image posted in the article, in the same stuck-to-the-right-margin manner as the first
  711. [2010-05-05 19:04:46] <qntm> Exactly.
  712. [2010-05-05 19:04:53] <Moose_Fisher> Particles can act like waves
  713. [2010-05-05 19:04:59] <Loreweaving> What would I change about the image posting code
  714. [2010-05-05 19:05:01] <Moose_Fisher> but light cannot act like a particle
  715. [2010-05-05 19:05:12] <qntm> The point is that there's no such thing as a "shadow" or a "beam of light"
  716. [2010-05-05 19:05:21] <qntm> It's just an area where there is constantly light or no light
  717. [2010-05-05 19:05:22] <Loreweaving> nevermind
  718. [2010-05-05 19:05:29] <qntm> the photons themselves are in rapid and insane motion
  719. [2010-05-05 19:05:31] <qntm> which doesn't count
  720. [2010-05-05 19:05:32] <Ecks> what if you make hand signs to for the circle?
  721. [2010-05-05 19:05:36] <qntm> the magic circle has to be static
  722. [2010-05-05 19:05:38] <Alias> I think just put it into a different spot on the page.
  723. [2010-05-05 19:05:49] <qntm> and the circle would be complex enough that you'd need more than 2 hands. Like, 20
  724. [2010-05-05 19:05:52] <qntm> or 200
  725. [2010-05-05 19:06:06] <Alias> Click 'edit' on a page with multiple images and check how it works.
  726. [2010-05-05 19:06:10] <Ecks> so if i used a circle to grow 200 hands i couild do it?
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  728. [2010-05-05 19:06:28] <qntm> no circle is going to let you grow additional hands. That's silly.
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  730. [2010-05-05 19:06:48] <Ecks> what if i eat that fruit like in one piece?
  731. [2010-05-05 19:06:53] <Ecks> or robot hands?
  732. [2010-05-05 19:07:15] <qntm> Oh you mean One Piece with capitals
  733. [2010-05-05 19:07:18] <qntm> which I also have never seen
  734. [2010-05-05 19:07:24] <qntm> so I don't know
  735. [2010-05-05 19:07:25] <Ecks> what ifg i get a bunch of robots to follow me around and form into circles?
  736. [2010-05-05 19:07:47] <qntm> I don't know, maybe?
  737. [2010-05-05 19:07:48] <Automaton> first thing i would do is use the magic to make automatons
  738. [2010-05-05 19:07:56] <qntm> *automata
  739. [2010-05-05 19:07:59] <Automaton> if it's basically free energy
  740. [2010-05-05 19:08:01] <Ecks> don't copy my robots
  741. [2010-05-05 19:08:05] <Loreweaving> Yeah, Alias, I did that x3
  742. [2010-05-05 19:08:18] <Alias> Cool ^-^
  743. [2010-05-05 19:08:35] <Automaton> shipping market is totally run by boats and airships crewed by constructs
  744. [2010-05-05 19:08:42] <Quikngruvn> Lore, you're trying to put in a pic that's not right-justified?
  745. [2010-05-05 19:09:18] <Ecks> what about whorebots?
  746. [2010-05-05 19:09:37] <qntm> "Bender honey we love you" "Shut up baby I know it"
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  748. [2010-05-05 19:11:29] <Loreweaving> Hrm
  749. [2010-05-05 19:11:38] <Loreweaving> Having trouble expounding upon this concept
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  752. [2010-05-05 19:12:00] <Ecks> viagra circle
  753. [2010-05-05 19:12:02] <Loreweaving> "SCP-XXX functions as a normal shovel when used to dig holes; however, any attempt to fill the resulting hole (hereafter referred to as SCP-XXX-1) with solids or liquids results in their disappearance. The object then deposits itself, seemingly from thin air, at a random point approximately two meters from the edge of SCP-XXX-1."
  754. [2010-05-05 19:12:12] <Loreweaving> This also works on anything the blade is dug into
  755. [2010-05-05 19:12:15] <Loreweaving> i.e.
  756. [2010-05-05 19:12:21] <Loreweaving> If you stab someone with it
  757. [2010-05-05 19:12:29] <Automaton> qntm, would you just rather play a decent D20 modern campaign?
  758. [2010-05-05 19:12:53] <qntm> I barely even know what a decent D20 modern campaign is.
  759. [2010-05-05 19:13:00] <Alias> ...hmm, I'm not sure I like things just disappearing >.>
  760. [2010-05-05 19:13:05] <Automaton> ...
  761. [2010-05-05 19:13:11] <Automaton> D20 mdern
  762. [2010-05-05 19:13:15] <Automaton> modern*
  763. [2010-05-05 19:13:18] <qntm> What's D20 modern?
  764. [2010-05-05 19:13:25] <Automaton> it's D&D, set in now
  765. [2010-05-05 19:13:46] <qntm> I didn't know you could do that.
  766. [2010-05-05 19:13:50] <Automaton> add magic and it's exactly what you're describing
  767. [2010-05-05 19:13:54] <Automaton> ...
  768. [2010-05-05 19:13:58] <qntm> D&D doesn't have magic?
  769. [2010-05-05 19:14:01] <Automaton> srsly?
  770. [2010-05-05 19:14:11] <Alias> Maybe if you put stuff in filling it beyond a certain percent it spits it out?
  771. [2010-05-05 19:14:21] <Automaton> well it does, but D20 modern sometimes doesn't
  772. [2010-05-05 19:14:21] <qntm> I don't know jack about fantasy. This is exactly why I've decided to write some.
  773. [2010-05-05 19:14:39] <qntm> I think I'd have an original take on it, uncoloured by existing tropes.
  774. [2010-05-05 19:14:46] <qntm> I hope.
  775. [2010-05-05 19:14:57] <Automaton> but D&D is a game based entirely in fiction, you can do literally anything you want
  776. [2010-05-05 19:15:10] <qntm> I assumed D&D was a game based in a specific fantasy setting
  777. [2010-05-05 19:15:15] <Automaton> no, magic circles is about as trope as it gets
  778. [2010-05-05 19:15:25] <Automaton> technically i suppose it is
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  780. [2010-05-05 19:15:32] <qntm> I mean dungeons and dragons kind of constrain that setting somewhat
  781. [2010-05-05 19:15:44] <Loreweaving> That's what it's doing, Alias. The transfer is instant--when, say, a shovelful of dirt hits the bottom of the hole, it deposits itself next to the hole instead.
  782. [2010-05-05 19:15:49] <qntm> The modern world may have dungeon-like places, but few dragons
  783. [2010-05-05 19:15:53] <AssertiveRoland> No, qntm, D&D's pretty flexible. It has a default setting, but it's almost never used thuse
  784. [2010-05-05 19:15:54] <Automaton> well then D&D uses the mechanics referred to as D20
  785. [2010-05-05 19:16:00] <Loreweaving> I COULD have it jes' show up where it was taken from hoever
  786. [2010-05-05 19:16:02] <Loreweaving> *however
  787. [2010-05-05 19:16:08] <AssertiveRoland> Also, I just had a terrible, terrible idea
  788. [2010-05-05 19:16:16] <Loreweaving> Guy jumps in, he lands where he was standing
  789. [2010-05-05 19:16:22] <Alias> What if it got launched out instead of just vanishing?
  790. [2010-05-05 19:16:35] <qntm> Yes, but magic circles the size of airfields?
  791. [2010-05-05 19:16:42] <Alias> I'd like it better if you could put some stuff into the hole >.>
  792. [2010-05-05 19:16:43] <Automaton> lore, if that happens then what if i use the scp itself to fill the hole i just dug
  793. [2010-05-05 19:16:46] <qntm> Magic circles laid by the billion in integrated circuit boards?
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  795. [2010-05-05 19:17:09] <AssertiveRoland> Loreweaver, you wanna hear my dreadful idea?
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  797. [2010-05-05 19:17:18] <Automaton> filling the hole with the dirt from digging another hole
  798. [2010-05-05 19:17:27] <Loreweaving> Then you have two holes with dirt falling into them endlessly
  799. [2010-05-05 19:17:39] <Loreweaving> Sure, Ar
  800. [2010-05-05 19:17:44] <Automaton> thus perpetual motion
  801. [2010-05-05 19:17:50] <AssertiveRoland> Sorry to trumpet my own horn, but...
  802. [2010-05-05 19:18:00] <Automaton> who wants some of my free energy?
  803. [2010-05-05 19:18:02] <AssertiveRoland> SCP-140 or SCP-141 into SCP-914 on Fine or Very Fine. Discuss
  804. [2010-05-05 19:18:18] <qntm> Basically I want to make sure this idea is as original as possible
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  806. [2010-05-05 19:18:23] <qntm> Stuff To Stay Away From
  807. [2010-05-05 19:18:24] <Automaton> probably been done
  808. [2010-05-05 19:18:45] <Automaton> qntm, magic circles aren't very original
  809. [2010-05-05 19:18:57] <AssertiveRoland> Nor is magitek
  810. [2010-05-05 19:18:58] <Automaton> even on circuit boards
  811. [2010-05-05 19:19:13] <AssertiveRoland> Honestly, originality is overrated. Telling a good story should always be first concern
  812. [2010-05-05 19:19:15] <Automaton> yeah, that's just magitech
  813. [2010-05-05 19:19:15] <Alias> We shouldn't put SCP items in SCP-914 I think.
  814. [2010-05-05 19:19:24] <qntm> "Magitech" is a thing?
  815. [2010-05-05 19:19:29] <AssertiveRoland> Don't we do that all the time, Alias? :-P
  816. [2010-05-05 19:19:32] <Loreweaving> Hrm
  817. [2010-05-05 19:19:32] <Loreweaving> If the shovel is the only thing that can fill the holes up again it would solve the problem but take away a lot of the creepy and danger
  818. [2010-05-05 19:19:38] * Automaton facepalm
  819. [2010-05-05 19:19:49] <AssertiveRoland> Oh, don't get me wrong, Alias, the experiment would NEVER be approved
  820. [2010-05-05 19:19:50] <Automaton> qntm you had better be trolling right now
  821. [2010-05-05 19:19:57] <Alias> Well not things we only have one of.
  822. [2010-05-05 19:20:02] <AssertiveRoland> But it's an amusing thought
  823. [2010-05-05 19:20:11] <AssertiveRoland> Good point RE:141
  824. [2010-05-05 19:20:16] <AssertiveRoland> 140, though...multiple copies
  825. [2010-05-05 19:20:37] <Automaton> use the everything tree to replicate the SCP first
  826. [2010-05-05 19:20:46] <Loreweaving> I agree with Ar about originality
  827. [2010-05-05 19:20:55] <Alias> >.> another thing we shouldn't do.
  828. [2010-05-05 19:20:55] <Loreweaving> Take Tekken 6 and Street Fighter IV
  829. [2010-05-05 19:21:04] <Loreweaving> SFIV brought more new stuff to the table
  830. [2010-05-05 19:21:09] <AssertiveRoland> And yes, qntm, there's lots of stories with industrialized magic
  831. [2010-05-05 19:21:27] <qntm> Ah, nuts.
  832. [2010-05-05 19:21:28] <Loreweaving> But was uneven overall
  833. [2010-05-05 19:21:30] <qntm> Such as?
  834. [2010-05-05 19:21:39] <Loreweaving> Tekken 6 brought NOTHING new to the table
  835. [2010-05-05 19:21:48] <Loreweaving> But it refined its core mechanics to an astounding degree
  836. [2010-05-05 19:22:01] <Loreweaving> I enjoy Tekken 6 much more
  837. [2010-05-05 19:22:05] <Loreweaving> As do my friends
  838. [2010-05-05 19:22:13] <Loreweaving> Because it favored quality over originality
  839. [2010-05-05 19:22:32] <Automaton> every idea has been done before by someone
  840. [2010-05-05 19:22:41] <Automaton> originality is relative
  841. [2010-05-05 19:22:46] <Alias> That is not true at all.
  842. [2010-05-05 19:23:09] <Automaton> yes, yes it is
  843. [2010-05-05 19:23:26] <Loreweaving> No
  844. [2010-05-05 19:23:32] <Loreweaving> There are very few absolutes
  845. [2010-05-05 19:23:39] <Loreweaving> And not everything has been done before
  846. [2010-05-05 19:23:40] <qntm> I thought The Atrocity Archives was pretty original so I was going to take that idea a lot further.
  847. [2010-05-05 19:23:51] <Loreweaving> Most things
  848. [2010-05-05 19:23:55] <Loreweaving> But not everything
  849. [2010-05-05 19:24:10] <qntm> I've not even heard of the idea of "Magic NASA" being done before.
  850. [2010-05-05 19:24:13] <qntm> Correct me if I'm wrong.
  851. [2010-05-05 19:24:17] <Automaton> but what those most things are is impossible to prove
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  853. [2010-05-05 19:24:28] <Loreweaving> This is also true!
  854. [2010-05-05 19:24:29] <Automaton> qntm, magic spaceflight?
  855. [2010-05-05 19:24:30] <Quikngruvn> Spelljammer.
  856. [2010-05-05 19:24:39] <Automaton> been done
  857. [2010-05-05 19:24:45] <Automaton> many times
  858. [2010-05-05 19:24:45] <Loreweaving> But again
  859. [2010-05-05 19:24:57] <Loreweaving> I'd rather have a damn good hamburger than a crappy steak
  860. [2010-05-05 19:25:06] <qntm> "We will put a man on the Moon and return him safely to the Earth, using runes."
  861. [2010-05-05 19:25:14] <Automaton> Lore, i'm just saying to dwell on originality is pointless, because chances are it's been done before
  862. [2010-05-05 19:25:27] <Loreweaving> And I'd rather play Tekken 6 than SFIV
  863. [2010-05-05 19:25:30] <Loreweaving> Automaton
  864. [2010-05-05 19:25:34] <Loreweaving> We're not disagreeing
  865. [2010-05-05 19:25:36] <Loreweaving> =P
  866. [2010-05-05 19:25:43] <Automaton> simpson's did it
  867. [2010-05-05 19:25:48] <Alias> I am >.> Not everything has been done before.
  868. [2010-05-05 19:25:58] <Automaton> Alias, no not everything
  869. [2010-05-05 19:25:59] <Alias> Particularly sci-fi is a relatively new invention.
  870. [2010-05-05 19:26:08] <Clef> god I'm bored
  871. [2010-05-05 19:26:11] <Clef> I need something to rape
  872. [2010-05-05 19:26:11] <Quikngruvn> Those things that have not already been done, probably are not worth doing.
  873. [2010-05-05 19:26:14] <Automaton> but what has or has not been done before is immaterial
  874. [2010-05-05 19:26:20] <qntm> Sci-fi has been around since the 19th Century at the very latest.
  875. [2010-05-05 19:26:29] <Alias> And as new tech comes along new stuff becomes possible.
  876. [2010-05-05 19:26:52] <Alias> In fact, fiction as we know doesn't date back very far >.>
  877. [2010-05-05 19:26:53] <Automaton> Alias, you're arguing a point no-one is making
  878. [2010-05-05 19:27:23] <Automaton> no-one is saying /everything/ has been done
  879. [2010-05-05 19:27:24] <Loreweaving> Actually
  880. [2010-05-05 19:27:38] <Loreweaving> Cavemen were writing crude fiction
  881. [2010-05-05 19:27:44] <Loreweaving> But nobody did it before THEM =P
  882. [2010-05-05 19:27:52] <Alias> 'fiction?'
  883. [2010-05-05 19:27:57] <Automaton> we're just saying that to nit-pick over originality is pointless
  884. [2010-05-05 19:28:01] <Alias> How do we know they considered it fiction?
  885. [2010-05-05 19:28:16] <Automaton> does it matter?
  886. [2010-05-05 19:28:28] <Loreweaving> I was making a joke anyways
  887. [2010-05-05 19:28:35] <qntm> Basically my main idea is what if the Challenger disaster happened but NASA had been using magical components all the way through the Shuttle program
  888. [2010-05-05 19:28:49] <qntm> And instead of getting Richard Feynman to investigate, they got a mage
  889. [2010-05-05 19:29:18] <Automaton> qntm, if magic is a source of free energy then we would be colonizing by now
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  891. [2010-05-05 19:29:41] <Automaton> we could power massive engines
  892. [2010-05-05 19:29:42] <PikaChris> Oh yeah!
  893. [2010-05-05 19:29:46] <qntm> The key point is that a magic circle only works in the presence of somebody who understands it.
  894. [2010-05-05 19:29:48] <Automaton> synthesize air
  895. [2010-05-05 19:29:59] <Automaton> okay
  896. [2010-05-05 19:29:59] <qntm> These people are 1) very smart and 2) naturally limited in supply.
  897. [2010-05-05 19:30:03] <Alias> You are assuming magic does anything we want >.>
  898. [2010-05-05 19:30:11] <qntm> So magic has inherent limits.
  899. [2010-05-05 19:30:17] <qntm> And it doesn't work for the majority of people.
  900. [2010-05-05 19:30:22] <PikaChris> We're discussing magic?!
  901. [2010-05-05 19:30:25] <Automaton> qntm, magic become part of the cirriculum
  902. [2010-05-05 19:30:34] <Gnosis> oh hey it's qntm
  903. [2010-05-05 19:30:40] <qntm> It sure is.
  904. [2010-05-05 19:30:41] <Automaton> if it works then it's taught in science class
  905. [2010-05-05 19:30:43] <Gnosis> are you of qntm.org?
  906. [2010-05-05 19:30:47] <qntm> Yes.
  907. [2010-05-05 19:30:56] <Gnosis> cool :D
  908. [2010-05-05 19:30:59] <Loreweaving> So
  909. [2010-05-05 19:31:02] <qntm> Yes. :D
  910. [2010-05-05 19:31:07] <Loreweaving> If only a few people have the ability
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  913. [2010-05-05 19:31:08] *nickserv* nick, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY password. Otherwise,
  914. [2010-05-05 19:31:08] *nickserv* please choose a different nick.
  915. [2010-05-05 19:31:09] <Alias> If magic works consistently like that it's not reeeally magic anymore.
  916. [2010-05-05 19:31:13] <Loreweaving> It's jes' like FMA
  917. [2010-05-05 19:31:17] <qntm> So NASA is staffed by smart people so they can use space rockets
  918. [2010-05-05 19:31:21] <qntm> but the problem is people are fallible
  919. [2010-05-05 19:31:28] <Gnosis> I don't think I've seen you around here before, but anyway
  920. [2010-05-05 19:31:31] =-= User mode for TheRaven is now +r
  921. [2010-05-05 19:31:31] *nickserv* Password accepted - you are now recognized.
  922. [2010-05-05 19:31:33] <qntm> so circles fail too when their users lose concentration for example
  923. [2010-05-05 19:31:33] <Loreweaving> Quantum
  924. [2010-05-05 19:31:38] <Alias> ...kind of like real NASA?
  925. [2010-05-05 19:31:40] <Automaton> but that's not really a problem
  926. [2010-05-05 19:32:00] <Automaton> that's accepted risk
  927. [2010-05-05 19:32:11] <qntm> Exactly! Just like the real Shuttle program
  928. [2010-05-05 19:32:17] <Automaton> that's human error, that applies to everything we do
  929. [2010-05-05 19:32:29] <qntm> But even so, a failure resulting in fatalities warrants a major investigation
  930. [2010-05-05 19:32:33] <PikaChris> Is this magic in the real world or magic in regards to SCP?
  931. [2010-05-05 19:32:38] <qntm> To find out who slipped up and why
  932. [2010-05-05 19:32:45] <Alias> I have no idea.
  933. [2010-05-05 19:32:48] <qntm> Magic as regards to a non-SCP-related thing I'm trying to write
  934. [2010-05-05 19:32:53] <PikaChris> oh
  935. [2010-05-05 19:32:55] <PikaChris> piff paff
  936. [2010-05-05 19:32:58] <Automaton> but given time and protocols, we would have engines and equipment to colonize other planets long before we do now
  937. [2010-05-05 19:32:59] <qntm> (There is no magic in the real world)
  938. [2010-05-05 19:33:11] <qntm> Depends how long ago we discovered magic.
  939. [2010-05-05 19:33:20] <Automaton> no it doesn't
  940. [2010-05-05 19:33:26] <Automaton> and i'll tell you why
  941. [2010-05-05 19:33:43] <Automaton> because right now we have fiction
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  943. [2010-05-05 19:34:20] <Automaton> and as soon as magic was discovered to work we would have flood of mail to the government listing ideas and calculations
  944. [2010-05-05 19:34:29] <Alias> It actually depends /entirely/ on how the magic in question works.
  945. [2010-05-05 19:34:51] <qntm> Not if it was kept secret!
  946. [2010-05-05 19:35:07] <Automaton> but if it /works/ why would we keep it a secret?
  947. [2010-05-05 19:35:20] <Alias> Maybe it's really dangerous.
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  949. [2010-05-05 19:35:31] <Alias> Maybe it doesn't work well for spaceships >.>
  950. [2010-05-05 19:35:32] <Automaton> and if it bends physics then you can't really put it in mudane things like a space shuttle
  951. [2010-05-05 19:35:44] <qntm> To gain the upper hand over the Russkies
  952. [2010-05-05 19:35:51] <qntm> *Politics*
  953. [2010-05-05 19:35:57] =-= Mode #site19 +o Imants by ChanServ
  954. [2010-05-05 19:36:02] <Automaton> but those are really stupid politics
  955. [2010-05-05 19:36:06] * Imants strides in!
  956. [2010-05-05 19:36:07] <qntm> Sure are!
  957. [2010-05-05 19:36:15] * Loreweaving trips Imants!
  958. [2010-05-05 19:36:17] <qntm> And if you're calling a Space Shuttle mundane then we have nothing more to say to each other
  959. [2010-05-05 19:36:20] =-= Loreweaving is now known as Loreweaver
  960. [2010-05-05 19:36:32] <Loreweaver> The Space Shuttle is simple technology
  961. [2010-05-05 19:36:35] <qntm> Politics will always be the limiting factor in scientific advancement.
  962. [2010-05-05 19:36:37] <Automaton> very
  963. [2010-05-05 19:36:40] <Loreweaver> A bunch of computers strapped to a big-ass rocket
  964. [2010-05-05 19:36:49] <qntm> The Space Shuttle is the most complex vehicle in human history.
  965. [2010-05-05 19:36:54] * Imants falls to his death.
  966. [2010-05-05 19:37:15] <Loreweaver> Totally awesome, but simple
  967. [2010-05-05 19:37:17] <Quikngruvn> Later, kids.
  968. [2010-05-05 19:37:18] <Imants> I'd call the space shuttle complex.
  969. [2010-05-05 19:37:19] * Loreweaver waves to imants
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  971. [2010-05-05 19:37:26] <Automaton> yes, and it depends of physical calculations easily made by any professor
  972. [2010-05-05 19:37:27] <Alias> I made a new SCP by the way.
  973. [2010-05-05 19:37:33] <qntm> Name a more complex vehicle.
  974. [2010-05-05 19:37:37] <Loreweaver> In that it has a lot of parts, sure it's complex
  975. [2010-05-05 19:37:47] <Loreweaver> Airplane.
  976. [2010-05-05 19:37:53] <Loreweaver> That actually has to fly.
  977. [2010-05-05 19:37:53] <Imants> wat
  978. [2010-05-05 19:37:57] <qntm> "Yeah it has about 1.5 million distinct moving parts, but it's still SIMPLE"
  979. [2010-05-05 19:37:59] <Alias> SCP-817
  980. [2010-05-05 19:37:59] <Nala> Alias: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-817 - Random Metamorphism
  981. [2010-05-05 19:38:03] <qntm> what the hell?
  982. [2010-05-05 19:38:11] <Automaton> qntm, by mundane i mean it has to obey physics
  983. [2010-05-05 19:38:16] <Gnosis> qntm: moving parts is not a good metric of simplicity
  984. [2010-05-05 19:38:17] <Loreweaver> The shuttle gets boosted up.
  985. [2010-05-05 19:38:18] <qntm> You're saying a Space Shuttle is simpler than an aeroplane?
  986. [2010-05-05 19:38:29] <qntm> You're saying an aeroplane doesn't obey physics?
  987. [2010-05-05 19:38:31] <Gnosis> I mean, computers don't have terribly many moving parts
  988. [2010-05-05 19:38:36] <qntm> ??!?
  989. [2010-05-05 19:38:40] <Automaton> by mundane i mean it's easily observed by everybody
  990. [2010-05-05 19:38:44] <Loreweaver> We've had working rockets a lot longer than we've had 747s
  991. [2010-05-05 19:38:47] <Automaton> qntm, who said that?
  992. [2010-05-05 19:39:00] <Automaton> i never said anything about an airplane
  993. [2010-05-05 19:39:18] <Gnosis> list of moving parts in a modern computer: the keys, the fan, the hard disks
  994. [2010-05-05 19:39:20] <qntm> If you think the Shuttle is simple then you're insane.
  995. [2010-05-05 19:39:27] <Loreweaver> The shuttle is jes' an airtight compartment with a lot of computers and a rocket strapped to its back
  996. [2010-05-05 19:39:31] <PikaChris> The hard disks is up for grabs.
  997. [2010-05-05 19:39:32] <Gnosis> well, laptop
  998. [2010-05-05 19:39:36] <PikaChris> You can get solid state disks now.
  999. [2010-05-05 19:39:37] <qntm> If you think the Shuttle isn't the most complex thing imaginable, you're insane.
  1000. [2010-05-05 19:39:39] <Gnosis> yeah.
  1001. [2010-05-05 19:39:41] <qntm> Name a more complex thing.
  1002. [2010-05-05 19:39:46] <qntm> That moves.
  1003. [2010-05-05 19:39:52] <Loreweaver> Humans.
  1004. [2010-05-05 19:39:55] <Imants> I assume the shuttle is complex because people are having issues replicating something similar, while existing technology still abounds.
  1005. [2010-05-05 19:39:57] <TheRaven> A fukken boat.
  1006. [2010-05-05 19:40:01] <Gnosis> you can build a computer whose only moving parts are like... the fans these days
  1007. [2010-05-05 19:40:07] <Automaton> what i mean is, if you use magic in an object as observable by the pblic as a space shuttle, then someone somewhere will catch on
  1008. [2010-05-05 19:40:09] <Gnosis> if you don't include a CD drive and you use an SSD
  1009. [2010-05-05 19:40:22] <Loreweaver> The wheel isn't complex, doesn't mean it's obsolete, Imants
  1010. [2010-05-05 19:40:27] <qntm> Nobody caught on about the Stealth Bomber
  1011. [2010-05-05 19:40:36] <Imants> wat
  1012. [2010-05-05 19:40:38] <qntm> just because something's visible doesn't mean you can reverse engineer it
  1013. [2010-05-05 19:40:43] <PikaChris> FUCK THE WHEEL. I ride octagons!
  1014. [2010-05-05 19:40:50] <Automaton> because it wasn't flown on camera for everyone to fucking see
  1015. [2010-05-05 19:40:57] <Imants> what does that have to do with anything, Loreweaver?
  1016. [2010-05-05 19:40:59] <qntm> just because something exists and has been heavily tested doesn't mean it's visible
  1017. [2010-05-05 19:41:04] <Imants> I can buy an airplane kit, and build it.
  1018. [2010-05-05 19:41:16] <Imants> I can then fly an airplane.
  1019. [2010-05-05 19:41:20] <Imants> An honest to god airplane.
  1020. [2010-05-05 19:41:23] <Automaton> but i could go to nasa and watch a space shuttle launch
  1021. [2010-05-05 19:41:36] <Imants> I'm not arguing with you auto
  1022. [2010-05-05 19:41:41] <Imants> I have no idea what you're even arguing about
  1023. [2010-05-05 19:41:46] <Automaton> i know imouncl
  1024. [2010-05-05 19:41:51] <PikaChris> I'm on a plane, dodging snakes and shit. They're shootin venom, gettin everyone all dead.
  1025. [2010-05-05 19:41:53] <Loreweaver> Oh, sorry, misread your comment as 'replicating something better'
  1026. [2010-05-05 19:41:57] <qntm> Apparently a Space Shuttle is "very simple"
  1027. [2010-05-05 19:42:09] <Loreweaver> Relatively simple.
  1028. [2010-05-05 19:42:09] <Automaton> i'm saying you can't put magic that bends the laws of physics in a space shuttle and keep it secret
  1029. [2010-05-05 19:42:11] <PikaChris> The Space Shuttle is basically a box with an engine on it.
  1030. [2010-05-05 19:42:16] <qntm> Relative to...
  1031. [2010-05-05 19:42:21] <Loreweaver> The shuttle is jes' an airtight compartment with a lot of computers and a rocket strapped to its back
  1032. [2010-05-05 19:42:21] <qntm> the LHC?
  1033. [2010-05-05 19:42:22] <Automaton> that is may only argument
  1034. [2010-05-05 19:42:24] <PikaChris> It just has lots of monitoring equipment for the box and engine.
  1035. [2010-05-05 19:42:42] <qntm> The rocket alone is insanely advanced and complex.
  1036. [2010-05-05 19:42:49] <Automaton> ok qntm, i'm not saying it's simple, i'm saying it's measurable
  1037. [2010-05-05 19:42:55] <qntm> with or without the habitable compartment attached.
  1038. [2010-05-05 19:43:10] <Alias> >.> is it just me or is this argument going in crazy circles?
  1039. [2010-05-05 19:43:12] <Loreweaver> No, actually. 'Fuel+Chemical Reaction+Directed force=Propulsion'
  1040. [2010-05-05 19:43:14] <PikaChris> Pchooooooo
  1041. [2010-05-05 19:43:23] <Loreweaver> That's a rocket
  1042. [2010-05-05 19:43:25] <Automaton> everybody else saying it's simple is besides my point
  1043. [2010-05-05 19:43:38] <qntm> Okay, now build a rocket that can put you into orbit.
  1044. [2010-05-05 19:43:40] <Imants> The idea of a space shuttle is simple.
  1045. [2010-05-05 19:43:46] <qntm> These ideas do not scale easily.
  1046. [2010-05-05 19:43:52] <qntm> The *idea* is simple.
  1047. [2010-05-05 19:43:53] <Imants> It's a rocket that delivers people, just like a plane is a wing that delivers people.
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  1049. [2010-05-05 19:43:58] <qntm> The execution is preposterous.
  1050. [2010-05-05 19:44:06] <Loreweaver> Quantum, it jes' takes a LOT of fuel and metal to put it in
  1051. [2010-05-05 19:44:12] <Loreweaver> Give me those and it's easy
  1052. [2010-05-05 19:44:17] <qntm> You might as well say a human is just a big blob of carbon which moves about on its own.
  1053. [2010-05-05 19:44:22] <Imants> A space shuttle itself is much more complex than a plane, by virtue of having to do much much more.
  1054. [2010-05-05 19:44:23] <Automaton> ok qntm, calm down
  1055. [2010-05-05 19:44:24] <Alias> Rockets are not that complicated.
  1056. [2010-05-05 19:44:27] <PikaChris> It's not.
  1057. [2010-05-05 19:44:28] <qntm> It's easy to trivialise.
  1058. [2010-05-05 19:44:31] <Alias> Lots of physics, yes.
  1059. [2010-05-05 19:44:32] <PikaChris> It's a big blob of water that moves around.
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  1061. [2010-05-05 19:44:39] <PikaChris> It just has a carbon shell.
  1062. [2010-05-05 19:44:40] <Imants> Qntm, that was my point.
  1063. [2010-05-05 19:44:43] <Alias> But compared to an airplane, very simple.
  1064. [2010-05-05 19:44:48] <PikaChris> Like M&Ms, except, alive.
  1065. [2010-05-05 19:44:57] <Imants> 'a rocket with computers and a box' is incredibly accurate
  1066. [2010-05-05 19:45:08] <Loreweaver> Thank you, Imants x3
  1067. [2010-05-05 19:45:12] <Imants> just like 'a tube with two engines and a wing through it' is an airplane.
  1068. [2010-05-05 19:45:15] <qntm> It's a trivialisation.
  1069. [2010-05-05 19:45:27] <Automaton> all i'm saying is that if something that can bend physics is used in the operation of something that can be easily observed by the public, some physicist somewhere will call bullshit
  1070. [2010-05-05 19:45:35] <JoshuaFH> Hey everyone, I'm real new here.
  1071. [2010-05-05 19:45:35] <Imants> I can call a 747 more complex than an airplane with that reasoning as long as I want.
  1072. [2010-05-05 19:45:38] <Imants> It does not make it true.
  1073. [2010-05-05 19:45:43] <Alias> Hi new person?
  1074. [2010-05-05 19:45:47] <Imants> Hello Josh, you joined in one of our debate sessions.
  1075. [2010-05-05 19:45:52] <Alias> What's your favourite SCP?
  1076. [2010-05-05 19:45:54] <Imants> Well, 'debate'.
  1077. [2010-05-05 19:46:01] <Alias> Distract us from this argument!
  1078. [2010-05-05 19:46:06] -->| Waxx (~waxx@synIRC-64C895F9.neo.res.rr.com) has joined #site19
  1079. [2010-05-05 19:46:06] =-= Mode #site19 +o Waxx by ChanServ
  1080. [2010-05-05 19:46:20] <JoshuaFH> My favorite? 173. It gives me nightmares. But I didn't mean to interrupt.
  1081. [2010-05-05 19:46:25] <qntm> Just because a physicist will say "hey something's wrong with that launch" doesn't mean they'll be able to reverse engineer the magic circle which allowed the launch to happen
  1082. [2010-05-05 19:46:28] <Alias> Niiice.
  1083. [2010-05-05 19:46:40] <qntm> or the software for the flight computers etc. etc.
  1084. [2010-05-05 19:47:13] <Automaton> no, it doesn't but with enough poking around eventually people will ask questions and get scraps
  1085. [2010-05-05 19:47:27] <Waxx> Lo chaps
  1086. [2010-05-05 19:47:31] <Alias> Hey.
  1087. [2010-05-05 19:47:33] <Loreweaver> And once they learn 'zomfg magic is teh reelz'
  1088. [2010-05-05 19:47:34] <Automaton> when something bend the laws of physics it's a pretty big deal
  1089. [2010-05-05 19:47:38] <Loreweaver> Then things happen
  1090. [2010-05-05 19:47:47] <Loreweaver> Hiya Waxx
  1091. [2010-05-05 19:48:09] <JoshuaFH> So what idea are you guys discussing?
  1092. [2010-05-05 19:48:26] <Waxx> http://www.operatorchan.org/n/src/n58729_1255952028093.gif
  1093. [2010-05-05 19:48:27] <Alias> Magic spaceships >.>
  1094. [2010-05-05 19:48:29] <Loreweaver> Question two, Josh
  1095. [2010-05-05 19:48:34] <Loreweaver> How'd you find the site?
  1096. [2010-05-05 19:48:41] <JoshuaFH> Through TvTropes.com
  1097. [2010-05-05 19:48:45] <AssertiveRoland> Blah....need brainstormity
  1098. [2010-05-05 19:48:54] <Automaton> qntm seems to think that putting magic in the most complex vehicle on the face of the earth is a good way to keep magic a secret
  1099. [2010-05-05 19:48:58] * AssertiveRoland mauls someone for brainpower, carefully avoiding hurting Josh
  1100. [2010-05-05 19:48:59] <Loreweaver> Third question
  1101. [2010-05-05 19:49:05] <Loreweaver> Have you read the site/chat rules?
  1102. [2010-05-05 19:49:19] <Automaton> well, later folks
  1103. [2010-05-05 19:49:22] <Automaton> \o
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  1105. [2010-05-05 19:49:29] <Loreweaver> Adios
  1106. [2010-05-05 19:50:00] <AssertiveRoland> cya Auto
  1107. [2010-05-05 19:50:05] <JoshuaFH> Yes, but I don't think I'm ready if there's a quiz.
  1108. [2010-05-05 19:50:11] <Loreweaver> Well, no xD
  1109. [2010-05-05 19:50:23] <Loreweaver> We jes' needed to know you'd read them
  1110. [2010-05-05 19:50:26] <Loreweaver> Welcome aboard =3
  1111. [2010-05-05 19:51:35] <PikaChris> Now strip.
  1112. [2010-05-05 19:52:12] <JoshuaFH> Do I have to?
  1113. [2010-05-05 19:52:25] <Loreweaver> Only if you want some 447 juice
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  1115. [2010-05-05 19:53:03] <AssertiveRoland> Blah. Loreweaver, anyone else, I'm officially conscripting you
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  1117. [2010-05-05 19:53:47] <MrUnimport> "You might as well say a human is just a big blob of carbon which moves about on its own."
  1118. [2010-05-05 19:53:48] <JoshuaFH> So what was the backstory behind this magic spaceships idea?
  1119. [2010-05-05 19:53:53] <TheRaven> Why have w been conscripted?
  1120. [2010-05-05 19:53:58] <MrUnimport> Wait, does the human count as part of the complexity of the space shuttle?
  1121. [2010-05-05 19:54:13] <Loreweaver> For what, Ar?
  1122. [2010-05-05 19:54:26] <AssertiveRoland> I feel the need to work more on my setting thing if I'm going to try and advertise it to writers here for participation, so I need some suggestions on what to work on
  1123. [2010-05-05 19:54:47] <AssertiveRoland> Finish the angel writeup, write up some monsters, do more historical narrative...?
  1124. [2010-05-05 19:54:53] <Loreweaver> Remind me
  1125. [2010-05-05 19:55:37] <AssertiveRoland> Here, check it out
  1126. [2010-05-05 19:55:37] <AssertiveRoland> http://nether.lucidfox.org/wiki/Main_Page
  1127. [2010-05-05 19:55:59] <MrUnimport> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dai_shogi
  1128. [2010-05-05 19:56:05] <MrUnimport> "Each player has a set of 65 pieces of 29 different types. In all, a player must remember 36 different moves. Each piece has its name written on it in Japanese kanji. '
  1129. [2010-05-05 19:56:06] <TheRaven> Added to my reading list. Probably gonna be here again tomorrow, so I'll take a look then.
  1130. [2010-05-05 19:56:08] <MrUnimport> :|
  1131. [2010-05-05 19:56:22] <AssertiveRoland> it's the wiki for a setting I been working on for possible use. Was intended for an online RP campaign but due to people being distracted, has gone into hibernation.
  1132. [2010-05-05 19:57:03] <Loreweaver> Hrm
  1133. [2010-05-05 19:57:08] <AssertiveRoland> Been considering the possibility of attracting Foundation writers' interest for participation, contribution, writing stories set in that 'verse, etc. Only thing I'd want is editorial control for big big changes, since I'm gonna use the setting myself for things I'm hoping to publish
  1134. [2010-05-05 19:57:09] <Loreweaver> Lemme read it for a few minutes
  1135. [2010-05-05 19:57:17] <AssertiveRoland> Sure.
  1136. [2010-05-05 19:57:19] <Loreweaver> I'll smasck you with some ideas
  1137. [2010-05-05 19:57:30] <AssertiveRoland> I kinda wanna work on the historical narrative, but it's an intimidating idea
  1138. [2010-05-05 19:57:43] <AssertiveRoland> I'm nowhere NEAR the "present" for the setting atm
  1139. [2010-05-05 19:59:54] <atomicthumbs> MrUnimport: a human is a walking heap of controlled burning
  1140. [2010-05-05 20:00:08] <MrUnimport> I wasn't the one who said it.
  1141. [2010-05-05 20:01:17] <AssertiveRoland> ?
  1142. [2010-05-05 20:03:42] <teaflower> ... ?
  1143. [2010-05-05 20:04:15] <MrUnimport> ...?!
  1144. [2010-05-05 20:04:21] * PikaChris write write write
  1145. [2010-05-05 20:04:27] <PikaChris> WHAT IS A MAN?!
  1146. [2010-05-05 20:04:35] <PikaChris> Nothing more than a miserable pile of secrets!
  1147. [2010-05-05 20:04:41] <teaflower> :o
  1148. [2010-05-05 20:04:43] <PikaChris> But enough talk!
  1149. [2010-05-05 20:04:46] <PikaChris> Have at you!
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  1151. [2010-05-05 20:05:23] <JoshuaFH> Wait! What is occurring?
  1152. [2010-05-05 20:05:25] * AssertiveRoland tackles teaflower
  1153. [2010-05-05 20:05:30] <BlackWing> We all gonna die!!
  1154. [2010-05-05 20:05:33] <AssertiveRoland> teaflower! What should I write on?
  1155. [2010-05-05 20:05:38] <BlackWing> paper
  1156. [2010-05-05 20:05:38] * teaflower wants to go write but dammit theater teacher and dammit retard girl and dammit im an author i can format better than retard girl i can type faster than her and my ideas are more well formed than hers!!!
  1157. [2010-05-05 20:05:39] <BlackWing> duh
  1158. [2010-05-05 20:05:45] <AssertiveRoland> Historical narrative, angel design, or creature concepts!
  1159. [2010-05-05 20:05:54] <BlackWing> Historical angelic concepts
  1160. [2010-05-05 20:06:00] <BlackWing> With a narrative design
  1161. [2010-05-05 20:06:00] <teaflower> I wanted to write something about angels.
  1162. [2010-05-05 20:06:04] <teaflower> Do something else.
  1163. [2010-05-05 20:06:04] -->| Wilkes (Mibbit@synIRC-6DF082CC.its.waikato.ac.nz) has joined #site19
  1164. [2010-05-05 20:06:07] <MrUnimport> Whoa.
  1165. [2010-05-05 20:06:13] <MrUnimport> What happened to Google?
  1166. [2010-05-05 20:06:18] <Wilkes> Mornin
  1167. [2010-05-05 20:06:25] <TheRaven> I noticed that too Uni.
  1168. [2010-05-05 20:06:30] <teaflower> What do you mean?
  1169. [2010-05-05 20:06:34] <PikaChris> Looks like google to me
  1170. [2010-05-05 20:06:35] <MrUnimport> I don't like this new interface.
  1171. [2010-05-05 20:06:58] <TheRaven> Neither do I. It's fucking weird.
  1172. [2010-05-05 20:07:05] <PikaChris> What are you guy talking about?
  1173. [2010-05-05 20:07:08] <Alias> Google.ca is the same as always >.>
  1174. [2010-05-05 20:07:11] <PikaChris> It looks like google always looked.
  1175. [2010-05-05 20:07:14] <AssertiveRoland> teaflower, s'not for SCP
  1176. [2010-05-05 20:07:20] <Wilkes> Not seeing anything different for google.co.nz?
  1177. [2010-05-05 20:07:20] <teaflower> Oh.
  1178. [2010-05-05 20:07:26] <teaflower> Then carry on.
  1179. [2010-05-05 20:08:01] * Alias checks newest SCP pages.
  1180. [2010-05-05 20:08:10] <Alias> ...coolwhip? What? I don't get it.
  1181. [2010-05-05 20:08:26] <MrUnimport> http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=blah&meta=&cts=1273099089379&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
  1182. [2010-05-05 20:08:36] <MrUnimport> Looks different to me.
  1183. [2010-05-05 20:08:42] <MrUnimport> Maybe I only just noticed?
  1184. [2010-05-05 20:08:44] <TheRaven> It loads normal, and then switches.
  1185. [2010-05-05 20:09:03] <MrUnimport> Of course, the old one was http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/victories.html
  1186. [2010-05-05 20:09:07] <TheRaven> Unimport, you using Firefox?
  1187. [2010-05-05 20:09:13] <Alias> Oh, your right.
  1188. [2010-05-05 20:09:19] <MrUnimport> Yes.
  1189. [2010-05-05 20:09:22] <Alias> It is different when you search O.o
  1190. [2010-05-05 20:09:34] <atomicthumbs> Unimport, you using Greasemonkey?
  1191. [2010-05-05 20:09:37] <TheRaven> OK, so it's not the addons.
  1192. [2010-05-05 20:09:50] <teaflower> Eh.
  1193. [2010-05-05 20:09:51] <MrUnimport> No.
  1194. [2010-05-05 20:10:08] <teaflower> Alright folks.
  1195. [2010-05-05 20:10:23] <AssertiveRoland> yis?
  1196. [2010-05-05 20:10:25] <teaflower> Should I force words out of me?
  1197. [2010-05-05 20:10:29] <teaflower> Art out of me?
  1198. [2010-05-05 20:10:33] <teaflower> Music out of me?
  1199. [2010-05-05 20:10:37] <teaflower> Or simply play Earthbound?
  1200. [2010-05-05 20:10:57] -->| pannier (~oystein@synIRC-402AFF8C.brhm.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #site19
  1201. [2010-05-05 20:11:20] [INFO] Disconnecting from IRC. Click close again to exit now.
  1202. [2010-05-05 20:11:20] [QUIT] Disconnected from irc://irc.synirc.net/ (irc://irc.synirc.net/). [[Reconnect][Reconnect to irc.synirc.net][reconnect]]
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