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  1. [7:48:30 PM] Purple Tinker: Just wanted to point out that Cray here went on 4chan and talked smack about what happened at BroNYCon January. Again.
  2. [7:48:35 PM] Purple Tinker: Some people just don't want to let the drama die.
  3. [7:48:38 PM] Purple Tinker: Some people just want to keep stirring up shit about me.
  4. [7:48:43 PM] Purple Tinker: Cray is one of those people.\
  5. [7:49:18 PM] Purple Tinker: http://boards.4chan.org/mlp/res/716742
  6. [7:49:59 PM] Cray: tink, I made an ask thread and people asked
  7. [7:50:09 PM] Cray: I stand by it
  8. [7:50:17 PM] Purple Tinker: Do you really think that that helps the conventiojn?
  9. [7:50:20 PM] Purple Tinker: convention/
  10. [7:50:34 PM] Cray: I'm not interested in helping or hurthing the convention
  11. [7:50:49 PM] Cray: and i dont know why you think that 4chan's opinion matters, honestly
  12. [7:50:51 PM] Purple Tinker: Really? Then why did you identify yourself as 'part of Bronycon's security staff'?
  13. [7:51:03 PM] Cray: because I was?
  14. [7:51:09 PM] Purple Tinker: You didn't say you WERE.
  15. [7:51:10 PM] Purple Tinker: Yo usaid you ARE.
  16. [7:51:20 PM] Captain Raindrop: streamception?
  17. [7:51:22 PM] Purple Tinker: So.... basically, you misrepresented yourself. You fucking lied.
  18. [7:51:43 PM] Cray: tink, if I was interested in trolling bronycon, this would be the dumbest way to do it possible
  19. [7:51:55 PM] Cray: yea, I could have been clearer, but I'm also a known person on the boards
  20. [7:52:13 PM] Cray: most people reading that thread know that I quit/haven't had ties to it since January
  21. [7:52:27 PM] Cray: and if they think I'm still part of it, I correct them
  22. [7:52:53 PM] Cray: Your right, I was ambiguous and that was unintentional, but dont make assumptions
  23. [7:53:00 PM] Purple Tinker: Cray, I KNOW that I made mistakes in January. I started working to fix those mistakes THE NEXT DAY. Within a month I had a new venue signed that was large enough to prevent ANY overcrowding, and I started within the week after the con on a reg system to solve the registration problem.
  24. [7:53:05 PM] Purple Tinker: I made mistakes and I worked to fix them
  25. [7:53:16 PM] Purple Tinker: People who didn't get in, I refunded AND comped to the next event.
  26. [7:53:25 PM] Purple Tinker: I worked my ass off to make sure that I righted my wrongs.
  27. [7:53:26 PM] Purple Tinker: I don'
  28. [7:53:30 PM] Cray: Tink, this isn't about you, stop taking it personally
  29. [7:53:38 PM] Purple Tinker: REally?
  30. [7:53:49 PM] Purple Tinker: How many times does my name occur in that thread, in your own posts?
  31. [7:53:49 PM] Cray: you fucked up in the public eye, when teh drama dies it will die but a thread on 4chan shouldnt get you worked up
  32. [7:53:51 PM] Purple Tinker: How is that not 'about me'?
  33. [7:54:09 PM] Cray: The stories were about you, but it wasnt the point of the thread
  34. [7:54:14 PM] Purple Tinker: Yes, I fucked up. And you assholes wouldn't give me a chance to make things right. You wanted me out. Sean wanted me out, so he could take control and turn BronyCon into a fucking cash machine.
  35. [7:54:49 PM] Purple Tinker: And Sean and Nanashi claimed they were the BIG FUCKING HEROES that day. The whole staff came through. There were a dozen staffers and probably as many grunts and security volunteers. Sean and his little gang of five weren't the whole staff.
  36. [7:54:54 PM] Purple Tinker: And from what I heard, Sean was pretty cavalier about the whole thing.
  37. [7:55:23 PM] Cray: Tinker, you're fucking paranoid. I wanted you out because you didn't do your job, and Sean and Nanashi DID save the fucking day. I WAS ONE OF THE GRUNTS.
  38. [7:55:26 PM] Purple Tinker: Someone asked him, after I passed out in existential terror over the overcrowding, tears in my fucking eyes, "Now what do we do?" and he responded "Not much we can do but sit back and watch everything burn".
  39. [7:55:30 PM] Cray: at least give credit where credit is due
  40. [7:55:38 PM] Purple Tinker: Sean and Nanashi were part of a large staff.
  41. [7:55:46 PM] Cray: and i was part of it
  42. [7:56:01 PM] Cray: yea, we all worked hard to pick up the rubble, but they actually took the reigns
  43. [7:56:18 PM] Cray: they didnt do it singel handedly, but it couldnt have been done without someone filling that role
  44. [7:56:33 PM] Purple Tinker: Sean is a fucking liar who has spent months spreading asinine rumours about me 'embezzling' con funds and distorting reality to make me look like a monster.
  45. [7:56:45 PM] Cray: they get the 'glory' for filling that role, and you get the flak for abandoning it. That's how leadership works
  46. [7:57:03 PM] Purple Tinker: He tells everyone that I ""made"" (!?) a VA sign a bunch of posters for free. We had a prior agreement to have her sign the posters, and she posters WERE SOLD FOR CHARITY TO BENEFIT TOYS FOR TOTS.
  47. [7:57:06 PM] Purple Tinker: he doesn't point out that part.
  48. [7:57:12 PM] Purple Tinker: he is a lying slimebucket who will say and do ANYTHING to gain power.
  49. [7:57:16 PM] Purple Tinker: he tried to take over BronyCon
  50. [7:57:21 PM] Purple Tinker: Then he tried to take over Everfree
  51. [7:57:29 PM] Purple Tinker: And now he's trying to start a con in fucking Cleveland.
  52. [7:57:45 PM] Purple Tinker: He is a lying, manipulative, deceitful, power-hungry bastard.
  53. [7:57:47 PM] Cray: why is this about sean again? why is it always about Sean
  54. [7:58:10 PM] Cray: what does he gain by badmouthing you?
  55. [7:58:10 PM] Navi: Navi vomits upon hearing Sean's name
  56. [7:58:15 PM] Purple Tinker: Him and his cronies have told people that the VAs hate me and hate the con, when I have an email box FULL of praise from them.
  57. [7:58:30 PM] Purple Tinker: Because Sean leads that group that started the first 4chan thread
  58. [7:58:42 PM] Purple Tinker: Because Sean's cronies-- Kezz, Winter Heart, Klisk and Nanashi-- were the ones who leaked those private documents.
  59. [7:58:46 PM] Purple Tinker: The phone call was a clal with Klisk.
  60. [7:58:52 PM] Purple Tinker: The Google/Skype chat (I forget which) was a chat with Kezz.
  61. [7:58:53 PM] Purple Tinker: And so on.
  62. [7:58:57 PM] Purple Tinker: It's ALL Sean and his ganbg.
  63. [7:58:58 PM] Purple Tinker: ...gang.
  64. [7:59:06 PM] Purple Tinker: ALL of the rumours and lies about BronyCon and about me originate from those guys.
  65. [7:59:07 PM] Cray: Where is the proof tink
  66. [7:59:20 PM] Cray: hell, where is the evidence that this is under Sean's orders?
  67. [7:59:21 PM] Purple Tinker: Sean and his four walkouts, and possibly Schlag as well (because he's upset that I pushed him out when he TRIED TO FIX A VOTE).
  68. [7:59:24 PM] Purple Tinker: I made mistakes, but I was not a FUCKING LIAR
  69. [7:59:25 PM] Purple Tinker: and he IS
  70. [7:59:39 PM] Purple Tinker: Proof of whyat?
  71. [7:59:47 PM] Purple Tinker: What do you want proof of?
  72. [7:59:51 PM] Cray: very single one of those people has enough reason to hate you by themselves, they dont need Sean to tell them to do it
  73. [7:59:51 PM] Purple Tinker: I'll give you whatever proof you want.
  74. [7:59:52 PM] Purple Tinker: Assuming it's something I CAN prove.
  75. [7:59:59 PM] Purple Tinker: Unlike Sean, I won't fucking LIE!
  76. [8:00:05 PM] Purple Tinker: There's no evidence that this is under his orderts.
  77. [8:00:07 PM] Purple Tinker: ....orders.
  78. [8:00:13 PM] Purple Tinker: But these are all his cronies.
  79. [8:00:18 PM] Purple Tinker: He's the leader of the walkout group.
  80. [8:00:27 PM] Purple Tinker: COULD they just independently be working to bash the con? Sure.
  81. [8:00:31 PM] Purple Tinker: But he's the one with the brains.
  82. [8:00:40 PM] Purple Tinker: They don't have ANY fucking reason to hate me.
  83. [8:00:43 PM] Purple Tinker: I saved Nanashi's fucking life.
  84. [8:00:44 PM] Purple Tinker: TWICE.
  85. [8:00:48 PM] Purple Tinker: now he hates my guts.
  86. [8:01:06 PM] Purple Tinker: Because Sean spent like a month or two brainwashing him, dehumanising me.
  87. [8:01:16 PM] Purple Tinker: Spending time with him day after day, talking smack about me
  88. [8:01:19 PM] Cray: Alright then, give me one good piece of evidence that says that they arent doing it of their own will
  89. [8:01:19 PM] Purple Tinker: while I gave him a place to live for free
  90. [8:01:24 PM] Purple Tinker: and bought him food, drinks, art supplies, video games
  91. [8:01:35 PM] Purple Tinker: and neglected to report his lying ass to the cops when he robbed me of $800
  92. [8:01:42 PM] Cray: You tell me that Nanashi left of his own free will
  93. [8:01:43 PM] Purple Tinker: Because I felt PITY for him
  94. [8:02:00 PM] Cray: Two other accounts say that you reduced him to tears and threw him out
  95. [8:02:02 PM] Purple Tinker: I may have a lot of faults, but being a liar is NOT one of them, nor is being unsy mpathetic
  96. [8:02:17 PM] Cray: You're fucking paranoid if you think Sean is BRAINWASHING anyone
  97. [8:02:38 PM] Cray: no, you're fucking paranoid anyway
  98. [8:02:49 PM] Purple Tinker: I'm not saying whether they are doing it 'of their own will'. I'm sure they are.
  99. [8:02:51 PM] Purple Tinker: I'm sure they're pissed at me too.
  100. [8:02:55 PM] Purple Tinker: Sean has spent months making sure of it.
  101. [8:02:56 PM] Cray: anytime someone mentions the drama of bronycon, you get up in arms about Sean taking over
  102. [8:03:01 PM] Cray: I mean, what the actual fuck?
  103. [8:03:02 PM] Purple Tinker: They all left.
  104. [8:03:08 PM] Purple Tinker: I tried to get them back too.
  105. [8:03:11 PM] Purple Tinker: Want proof of tjhat?
  106. [8:03:14 PM] Purple Tinker: THAT I DO have.
  107. [8:03:46 PM] Purple Tinker: Sean DID try to take over.
  108. [8:03:53 PM] Purple Tinker: Towards the end, I was afraid to take a SHIT without his permission.
  109. [8:04:00 PM] Purple Tinker: He once literally tried to prevent me from USING THE RESTROOM IN MY OWN HOME.
  110. [8:04:01 PM] Purple Tinker: That is how fucking controlling he was towards me.
  111. [8:04:02 PM] Cray: and how did this get from me posting on 4chan back to Sean?
  112. [8:04:05 PM] Purple Tinker: And there were multiple witnesses to this.
  113. [8:04:48 PM] Cray: No I don't need proof of that, I know they left. I wouldn't accept an invitation back from you either, and I wasn't as close to you as Nanashi
  114. [8:05:00 PM] Purple Tinker: He sat there in front of Winter, Kezz, Klisk and Nanashi and told me that he wanted me to have no votes at all in con decisions, no direct access to con finances, and no access to VAs at dinners and events.
  115. [8:05:05 PM] Cray: SEAN AGAIN
  116. [8:05:08 PM] Cray: Sean controlling
  117. [8:05:16 PM] Cray: what the fuck Tinker? Get a reality check
  118. [8:05:19 PM] Purple Tinker: I'm not a monster, Cray.
  119. [8:05:31 PM] Cray: you're driving yourself nuts with this, he's gone and doing his own thing
  120. [8:05:36 PM] Cray: just let it go
  121. [8:05:50 PM] Purple Tinker: Do you know why the con was so disorganised?
  122. [8:06:04 PM] Purple Tinker: Because for the key few weeks before the con, I was FREAKING THE FUCK OUT because of Hasbro.
  123. [8:06:06 PM] Cray: no, I'll be the first to say you aren't malicious
  124. [8:06:14 PM] Cray: but you are as crazy as they come
  125. [8:06:21 PM] Purple Tinker: because Hasbro attempted (just like they did in January) to interfere with our negotiations with Andrea, Ashleigh and Nicole
  126. [8:06:30 PM] Purple Tinker: and that time, we DID have signed paperwork with two of them and THEY STILL INTERFERED.
  127. [8:06:35 PM] Purple Tinker: so I was a nervous wreck
  128. [8:06:51 PM] Purple Tinker: I was paralysed with fear that Hasbro would interfere, even though legally and ethically they could not have told the VAs not to go, merely not to talk about their intellectual property.
  129. [8:07:03 PM] Purple Tinker: I wanted to tell the public about this
  130. [8:07:05 PM] Purple Tinker: SEAN WOULD NOT LET ME.
  131. [8:07:09 PM] Purple Tinker: He made me keep it secret
  132. [8:07:25 PM] Purple Tinker: Just like how the staff made me keep it secret when Hasbro AGAIN interfered with their little VA access embargo in January.
  133. [8:07:31 PM] Cray: I dont care why the con was disorganized Tinker
  134. [8:07:32 PM] Purple Tinker: Keeping that secret almost put me in the hospital.
  135. [8:07:44 PM] Purple Tinker: Yeah? What part of that is crazy?
  136. [8:07:47 PM] Cray: You had ample opportunities to delegate shit around
  137. [8:07:48 PM] Purple Tinker: Wanting to tell the whole truth to the public?
  138. [8:07:50 PM] Purple Tinker: CARING about the congoers?
  139. [8:07:58 PM] Purple Tinker: Not liking it when people LIE about you?
  140. [8:08:05 PM] Purple Tinker: He's accusing me of 'embezzling' MY OWN MONEY.
  141. [8:08:08 PM] Cray: If you've already admitted your mistakes, why are you still making excuses?
  142. [8:08:17 PM] Purple Tinker: He's painting me as a profiteer when I made jack shit, and HE is the biggest profiteer of them all.
  143. [8:08:25 PM] Purple Tinker: You tell me where I'm crazy for letting that bother me.
  144. [8:08:27 PM] Purple Tinker: Tell me.
  145. [8:08:31 PM] Purple Tinker: What exactly is crazy about that?
  146. [8:08:42 PM] Cray: I agree with Sean there, it was a done deal in everything but paper and telling everyone would have accomplished nothing
  147. [8:09:10 PM] Cray: Where is he painting you that way Tink?
  148. [8:09:23 PM] Cray: GIVE ME ONE SCRAP OF EVIDENCE that this is all Sean's master plan
  149. [8:09:26 PM] Cray: give me a fuicking motive
  150. [8:09:27 PM] Purple Tinker: That's not my point.
  151. [8:09:28 PM] RobBob: Okay
  152. [8:09:29 PM] RobBob: look
  153. [8:09:34 PM] Cray: or check yourself into a mental hospital
  154. [8:09:35 PM | Edited 8:10:14 PM] RobBob: if you guys are going to talk about this
  155. [8:09:38 PM] RobBob: please do it in another chat
  156. [8:09:42 PM] RobBob: This is rediculous
  157. [8:09:42 PM] Purple Tinker: I am asking you outright: What exactly have I done that makes me 'crazy'?
  158. [8:10:17 PM] Purple Tinker: Evidence:
  159. [8:10:52 PM] Purple Tinker: After his attempt to take control (both financial control and decisionmaking control
  160. ) of BronyCon failed, he tried to get involved in Everfree.
  161. [8:10:58 PM] Purple Tinker: After that failed, he tried to establish Everfree East.
  162. [8:11:08 PM] Purple Tinker: When that failed, then came 'Canterlot Gardens'.
  163. [8:11:15 PM] Purple Tinker: It is a continued pattern of behaviour; he is DESPERATE to control a convention.
  164. [8:11:16 PM] Purple Tinker: He will stop at nothing.
  165. [8:11:24 PM] Purple Tinker: That's his master plan: To run a con.
  166. [8:11:33 PM] Purple Tinker: And he's been trying to take over EXISTING cons first, rather than trying to start his own.
  167. [8:12:04 PM] *** Missed conference call. ***
  168. [8:12:04 PM] Purple Tinker: Fine, I'll talk elsewhere.
  169. [8:12:11 PM] PJ / LaserPon3: could we make a seperate group for this discussion
  170. [8:12:13 PM] PJ / LaserPon3: like now.
  171. [8:12:34 PM] Cray: Do you or do you not believe that Sean is tring to destroy you as we speak?
  172. [8:12:40 PM] PJ / LaserPon3: im getting messages from people in this group that it pissing people off, no offense but i can agree. sorry
  173. [8:12:55 PM] PJ / LaserPon3: its not ment offensive but yea xD
  174. [8:13:12 PM] PJ / LaserPon3: please respect everyone in this group.
  175. [8:14:04 PM] Cray: I've really no interest in going any further with this conversations. I've read the same chain of non sequitors time and time again. I'll stop talking about it, you're right that it's disrepsectful to the group
  176. [8:14:04 PM] Purple Tinker: I said I'll talk elsewhere.
  177. [8:14:21 PM] Cray: My apologies to everyone that had to see this
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