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[21:01] %mil: Welcome to the first rmt workshop of 2017 !
[21:01] @Enki: we will explain what is a workshop pretty quick
[21:02] @Enki: it's an event where official team raters rate together with you, tryina make your team better
[21:02] @Enki: to have ur team rated make sure to send them to users Mil or Sun
[21:03] @Enki: tankmonx is the user sent his team in, so we will start with him, keep following to see how the workshop works
[21:03] tankmonx✔ was promoted to Room Voice by Enki.
[21:03] @Enki: Hey
[21:03] +tankmonx✔: yo
[21:04] @Enki: can you give us a quick explanation on the idea of the team
[21:04] @Enki: and the building phase so we can procede to rate it
[21:04] +RedzoneX: can one of you guys post the pastebin so that we can see it?
[21:04] +AnishSomani✇: ^
[21:04] %mil: http://pastebin.com/eLPv
[21:04] %mil: http://pastebin.com/eLPvifVa
[21:05] +tankmonx✔: Ok so i wanted to make a simple rain team
[21:05] +tankmonx✔: I went with the stand core of pelliper + Tapu Koko + A rain sweeper
[21:05] +tankmonx✔: I originally had Kingdra
[21:06] +tankmonx✔: then I wanted a way to deal with stall
[21:06] +tankmonx✔: since stall was always an issue when i built a rain team
[21:06] @Enki: all right cool
[21:07] +tankmonx✔: I went with Manaphy
[21:07] @Enki: first of all we notice that there are many water types in ur team
[21:07] +tankmonx✔: lol yeah it's rain of course
[21:07] @Enki: and you also lack of a solid electric resistor
[21:08] @Enki: ferrothorn loses momentum and lacks of leftovers
[21:08] +tankmonx✔: true
[21:08] %mil: either manaphy or gren have to be replaced
[21:08] %mil: for a ground
[21:08] +tankmonx✔: and having Tapu kok makes it worse
[21:08] %mil: that way you can actually deal with electrics somehwat
[21:08] +tankmonx✔: since i'm making there electric attaks strong
[21:08] @Enki: greninja is pretty cool but id run specs ash greninja instead, if u want to keep greninja
[21:08] @Enki: yh indeed
[21:09] +tankmonx✔: Greninja reasoning is to weaken Tapu Fini
[21:09] +RedzoneX: i think if given the choice i would rather remove manaphy, seeing as TG 3 attacks is a little bit slow for the team and I can think of other ways to pressure stall
[21:09] +AnishSomani✇: specs ash greninja manages to 2hko fini here
[21:09] +RedzoneX: such as running SD > rapid spin on kabutops
[21:09] +AnishSomani✇: if its in rain
[21:10] +tankmonx✔: SD ok
[21:11] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: agree with mil, mana or gren needs to be replace with some ground type, most definitely lando
[21:11] +tankmonx✔: SD allows me to break through stall
[21:11] +RedzoneX: to make up for the lack of hazard removal this creates, you could run defog > hurricane on pelipper
[21:11] +RedzoneX: lando is definitely nice here
[21:11] +tankmonx✔: then there would be no reason to run spikes then
[21:12] +RedzoneX: i've never particularly been a fan of spikes on rain, since rain is about being as efficient as possible with the limited number of turns it has to work with
[21:12] @Enki: also you can run z rockyium kabutops with sd as main abuser
[21:12] +RedzoneX: and spikestacking takes time
[21:12] +tankmonx✔: true
[21:12] @Enki: this breaks stall alot
[21:12] +RedzoneX: ^
[21:12] +tankmonx✔: thats sounds really cool
[21:13] +tankmonx✔: so removing Manaphy or Gren?
[21:13] +AnishSomani✇: you probably could run like a knock off ferrothorn set if you are running defog and are adding lando t here
[21:13] +tankmonx✔: knock kinda helps vs Av Magnezone
[21:14] +tankmonx✔: or we can run Bulldoze
[21:14] @Enki: on another note you can run mega scizor over ferrothorn and rocks lead garchomp over manaphy, so you have a uturn which is strong in rain teams and at the same time you gain an electric resistor
[21:14] %mil: u-turn also keeps momentum
[21:15] @Enki: also scizor helps vs grass types, because it walls them under rain
[21:15] +AnishSomani✇: I wouldn't be too concerned about av magnezone here, as it takes a lot of damage from like everypokemon bar ferrothorn
[21:15] +tankmonx✔: and Mega Scizor can U turn out on it
[21:15] +AnishSomani✇: doesnt running m zor make koko more annoying?
[21:15] %mil: and rockium z kabutops kills grasss types
[21:15] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: so far we dont have a solid way to dealing with opposing ferro
[21:15] @Enki: yache berry garchomp is pretty strong here
[21:15] %mil: enki will handle koko in a second
[21:16] +tankmonx✔: Chomp> Manaphy?
[21:16] @Enki: since it lures koko KOing koko
[21:16] @Enki: and chomp + scizor + water spam is way many things to be handled by one mon
[21:16] %Sun ~: true, yache chomp is not a bad idea tbh
[21:16] @Enki: Koko is annoying yea, but you pretty much revenge it with many Pokemon
[21:16] %mil: ninja has water shuriekn
[21:16] %mil: sciz has bp
[21:16] %mil: kabu ahs ajet
[21:17] @Enki: if you find these mons still annoying kingdra over specs ninja can be a change
[21:17] %mil: and there's chomp with yache
[21:17] %mil: koko also can beat opposing koko with thunder
[21:17] @Enki: rain team has a pretty specific builds and you cant like have those many versions
[21:18] @Enki: this is pretty much it, any other question tankmonx?
[21:18] +tankmonx✔: yeah, so what changes are we keeping?
[21:18] @Enki: and do you guys want to say anything else about the team?
[21:18] %mil: http://pastebin.com/0aw9aUkJ
[21:19] %mil: somehwat of an unfinished version
[21:19] +tankmonx✔: yeah
[21:19] +AnishSomani✇: I think we made greninja into the ash set too, right ?
[21:19] %mil: yea you can run that tii
[21:19] %mil: too
[21:19] +RedzoneX: another suggestion, if ferrothorn becomes an issue
[21:19] +RedzoneX: is fit superpower onto kabutops
[21:20] +tankmonx✔: What's the spread on Scizor?
[21:20] %mil: !learn kabutops, low kick
In Gen 7, Kabutops can learn Low Kick only when obtained from:
gen 6 or earlier (all moves are level-up/tutor/TM/HM in gen 6 to 7)
[21:20] @Enki: yh anish
[21:20] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: i dont know how useful is dazz in koko tbh, cuz thunder + hp ice kill lati pretty sure
[21:20] +RedzoneX: or yeah
[21:20] +RedzoneX: that
[21:20] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: taunt could be a good replace ther
[21:21] +tankmonx✔: Do I keep roost on Koko?
[21:21] @Enki: no you run hp ice
[21:21] %mil: btw guys we're still taking teams !
[21:21] %mil: so you can pm me or sun
[21:21] @Enki: any other question?
[21:21] +tankmonx✔: i'mma send a pastebin
[21:21] +tankmonx✔: and tell if this is good
[21:22] +tankmonx✔: http://pastebin.com/9CEtX3KA
[21:22] +tankmonx✔: What's sure on Scizor Spread so took one that I got from Gen 6
[21:22] +tankmonx✔: team
[21:23] @Enki: yea looks cool, i'd cutroost for something like dgleam or gknot
[21:23] +tankmonx✔: I'll play around with that slot
[21:24] @Enki: yea
[21:24] +tankmonx✔: Thanks for the help
[21:24] @Enki: thx for sending in ur team
[21:24] @Enki: and gl with it
(tankmonx✔ was demoted to Room regular user by Enki.)
[21:24] AsianGamer5 was promoted to Room Voice by Enki.
[21:24] @Enki: Hey
[21:24] +AsianGamer5: hello
[21:24] %mil: hey
[21:24] %mil: is it the team with phero toxapex ?
[21:25] @Enki: http://pastebin.com/iB4tR7a8
[21:25] +AsianGamer5: yeah
[21:25] @Enki: give us a quick explaination of the building process
[21:26] +AsianGamer5: i really liked pheromosa so i tried to build a team around it
[21:26] +AsianGamer5: i knew it synergized well with tapu leles ability because of priority moves
[21:26] +AsianGamer5: and i tried to stick in some stuff that would help get to late game and allow for a sweep
[21:26] +AsianGamer5: defog on mew, stealth rock on landorus-t
[21:26] +AsianGamer5: toxic spikes toxapex
[21:27] +AsianGamer5: and i tried to get some good move coverage
[21:28] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: i think toxa, lando, phero and lele are strong core
[21:28] %mil: yea
[21:28] %mil: Thundi and mew
[21:28] %mil: don't really have a specific role
[21:28] @Enki: yh that core is strong in a balanced / bulkoff team
[21:28] %Sun ~: the team lacks a strong lele switch in too
[21:29] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: the team lack of speed as well, unable to revenge other scarfers or fast mons bar phero
[21:29] +AsianGamer5: i was thinking of putting scarf on lele instead of psychium
[21:30] +AsianGamer5: i like latias or latios as defoggers but their megastones arent legal yet
[21:30] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: those mons works well enough without mega
[21:31] +AsianGamer5: would they be better options than mew?
[21:31] +RedzoneX: i think the team wants to have something that's capable of revenging volcarona, who is pretty annoying to the toxa/lando/phero/lele core
[21:31] %mil: alright so
[21:31] %mil: phero/lele/lando/
[21:32] %mil: and remove
[21:32] %mil: thundi and mew bc of no real role, they don't really contribute much
[21:32] %mil: to the teams goal
[21:32] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: i like the idea of cm lele and scarf pheromosa
[21:32] %mil: then add celesteela to have a solid fairy or dragon swichcin
[21:32] +AnishSomani✇: I feel like fitting in a Tapu Fini > Toxapex could be pretty cool for some Defog support, and still checking stuff like Ash Greninja and Zard X, as well as not being as passive
[21:32] %mil: max SpD celesteeka
[21:32] %mil: with flamethrower for sciz
[21:33] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: or we also can add scarf excadril for spin, and rk
[21:33] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: but only if we keep toxa
[21:33] @Enki: we can go for scarf dugtrio as last so it revenges volcarona and electrics
[21:34] +RedzoneX: scarf exca still leaves us vulnerable to base 100s like mence
[21:34] @Enki: it also has a nice synergy with lele cuz of priorities
[21:34] +AnishSomani✇: I just really feel like every Pokémon bar Toxapex here can fit better on BOs really , and it's pretty passive here
[21:34] @Enki: what you guys think
[21:35] %mil: so we're at
[21:35] @Enki: trapping all electrics is a good reward imo
[21:35] %mil: phero/lele/lando/pex/celesteela/duggi
[21:35] %mil: thoughts ?
[21:35] @Enki: yea sounds good for me
[21:36] %mil: but LO phero
[21:36] %mil: in this case
[21:36] +AnishSomani✇: we could run a shed shell lele to help a bit with stall
[21:36] %mil: yea shed is def an option for stall
[21:36] +AnishSomani✇: like taunt psyshock moonblast hp fire with max spa max speed
[21:36] +RedzoneX: i second either that or twistedspoon
[21:36] @Enki: yh sounds solid
[21:37] +AsianGamer5: so taunt over focus blast and im running shed shell?
[21:37] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: cm lele pls
[21:37] +AnishSomani✇: if we are running cm were prob better off with spoon then, as it needs spoon to 2hko unaware clef
[21:37] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: with celesteela and toxa we dont need fire on lele
[21:37] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: cm taunt seem fine
[21:37] +AnishSomani✇: oh
[21:38] %Sun ~: agreed with cm lele, seems solid to deal with stall
[21:38] %mil: http://pastebin.com/CkxVSnQd
[21:38] +AnishSomani✇: think you meant for duggy to be a trap
[21:39] %mil: y change duggi to arena ban
[21:39] @Enki: any other question AsianGamer5?
[21:39] +AsianGamer5: do i want hp ice over stealth rock
[21:39] +AsianGamer5: on alndo
[21:39] %mil: yes
[21:39] %mil: to
[21:39] %mil: not lose to double dance lando
[21:40] %mil: any more questions AsianGamer5
[21:40] %mil: ?
[21:40] @Enki: i think this is pretty much it for changes, mil linked you the new version, gl with it and let us know. And thanks for submitting
[21:41] +AsianGamer5: im good
[21:41] +AsianGamer5: thanks for the help
(AsianGamer5 was demoted to Room regular user by Enki.)
21:41] +KingSwordYT: oh Hi
[21:42] +KingSwordYT: Some1 could do a rate for this SuMo OU team? http://pastebin.com/vyR9mkc4
[21:42] KingSwordYT was warned by mil.
[21:43] @Enki: yea sure, hold on, we got more people first then we will rate your team sure why not
[21:43] +RedzoneX: there's a workshop going on atm KingSwordYT
[21:43] +KingSwordYT: oh, i didn't knew
[21:43] +RedzoneX: until it's over, if you want your team rated pm it to Mil or Sun
[21:43] +KingSwordYT: I was asked to check a team
[21:43] +KingSwordYT: and since i don't play SuMo
[21:43] +KingSwordYT: ugh
[21:44] quziel くコ彡 was promoted to Room Voice by Enki.
[21:44] @Enki: Hey
[21:44] +quziel くコ彡: hey
[21:44] %Sun ~: hello :)
[21:44] @Enki: https://hastebin.com/raw/jaqunavuho
[21:44] +quziel くコ彡: so, the idea behind the team was to supplement the venusteela core with garchomp
[21:45] +quziel くコ彡: and from there, I added on fini to defog, and handle annoying dark/dragon spam, rachi to help handle psychic spam better, and nihilego to shore up fire issues
[21:45] +quziel くコ彡: chose to use EQ on cele to lure in/break down tran to help rachi once it sets up
[21:46] +quziel くコ彡: current issues are with some of the tier's stronger wallbreakers, ex. hoopa-u and kartana
[21:47] +quziel くコ彡: chose defensive chomp to baiscally help vs volt-turn playstyles, and knock on venu to help wear down enemy teams, though in reterospect, hp fire might help vs some problems
[21:47] @Enki: i think jirachi might be the Pokemon that we change, it's taking an important slot
[21:48] %mil: you kinda want spikes on such a team
[21:48] @Enki: and we can fit a pokemn there that can hanlde those breakers
[21:48] %mil: bechause you are not really dealing damage
[21:48] +quziel くコ彡: any particular ideas?
[21:48] %mil: so you need to damage the opposong team with hazards
[21:48] %Sun ~: i think AV magearna over jirachi might be a very interesting choice because can deal with lele and ash gren and its a good pivot
[21:49] @Enki: and hoopa
[21:49] %Sun ~: yeah
[21:49] %mil: skarmory over cleesteela imo
[21:49] %mil: to have spikes
[21:50] %mil: almost the same mon
[21:50] +quziel くコ彡: just a bit wary of spikes + defog, would replacing fini with a spinner be preferable then?
[21:51] %mil: yea we kinda need spin
[21:51] %mil: and no defog
[21:52] +quziel くコ彡: I guess starmie over fini is a somewhat acceptable slot in, though, it does leave mag as the weakest link vs dark spam, and means the team relies on nihilego to check zard-x
[21:53] @Enki: I mean running defog + spikes isnt too big of a problem, because the other teams can have no spinner so you spike up and win, they have a spinner so it doesnt matter or they can defog
[21:54] @Enki: in the worst case scenario, they spin away ur hazard and you can defog their
[21:54] %mil: http://pastebin.com/p57mCtt2
[21:54] %mil: thoughts ?
[21:55] +AnishSomani✇: we could try eq vena to lure tran
[21:55] %mil: yea true
[21:55] %mil: that way we beat one stealh rock mon
[21:55] @Enki: it looks solid
[21:55] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: team handle tran p well
[21:55] %Sun ~: i like hp fire on venu too to deal with kartana
[21:55] @Enki: yh same
[21:55] +quziel くコ彡: yeah, noticed that the team had major issues with kartana in its previous state
[21:55] %mil: maybe drain punch on rachi
[21:56] %mil: forfire punch
[21:56] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: dpunch iron zen seem fine
[21:56] +quziel くコ彡: yeah, seems like a good compromise in terms of coverage
[21:56] %mil: you want to hit darks like gren
[21:56] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: you dont really need fire after a ZHH
[21:56] %mil: when sweeping with rachi
[21:56] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: iron + dpunch wears down all steel types
[21:57] +quziel くコ彡: https://hastebin.com/raw/viwacogame so something like this?
[21:58] +quziel くコ彡: sorry, forgot hp fire on venu
[21:58] @Enki: yea i think this is it
[21:58] @Enki: do you have any other question?
[21:59] %mil: y
[21:59] %mil: you miss 4 evs on skarm
[21:59] +quziel くコ彡: not really, thanks for the help streamlining the team
[21:59] @Enki: thank you for submitting the tean and gl while testing it
(quziel くコ彡 was demoted to Room regular user by Enki.)
21:59] explodingdaisies was promoted to Room Voice by Enki.
[21:59] @Enki: hey
[21:59] %Sun ~: hello :)
[21:59] %mil: https://hastebin.com/raw/eqaculoseb
[21:59] +explodingdaisies: hey guys
[22:00] +explodingdaisies: this team is built around the bulutran core
[22:00] +explodingdaisies: i have defog m-sciz as my pivot hazard remover and mmeta/bulu check mostly
[22:00] %mil: what is the teams goal ?
[22:01] +explodingdaisies: set up a mosa or zygarde sweep
[22:01] +explodingdaisies: or slowbro also
[22:01] @Enki: what if u go like z heatran over z phermosa
[22:01] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: qd mosa normally run modest
[22:01] +AnishSomani✇: I would probably run a Modest Nature on Pheromosa, helps get a bit of power and a +spa boost and the team isn't especially zam weak
[22:02] %mil: what does z-quiver dance do again ?
[22:02] +explodingdaisies: AnishSomani i was thinking thinking that
[22:02] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: it is z focus mil
[22:02] +explodingdaisies: but against sand
[22:02] +AnishSomani✇: it's z focus blast, because of 100% acc +power
[22:02] %mil: ah yes
[22:02] %mil: :D
[22:02] +explodingdaisies: +1 modest wont outspeed jolly exca
[22:02] +explodingdaisies: in sand
[22:02] @Enki: but you got solutions for exca
[22:02] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: thats fair
[22:02] +explodingdaisies: true
[22:03] @Enki: but yea keep it as it is
[22:03] @Enki: honestly id run ebelt or orb over z
[22:03] +explodingdaisies: might run max def on sciz
[22:03] @Enki: and z heatran which is very strong
[22:03] @Enki: because solar beam is very weak in sand
[22:03] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: coil zygarde seem better in that team, cuz you already have a setup fast mon in mosa
[22:03] +explodingdaisies: i had bloom tran and LO mosa
[22:04] @Enki: i like it more
[22:04] @Enki: look more solid
[22:04] +AnishSomani✇: opposing mosa seems pretty annoying here
[22:04] +explodingdaisies: 70% acc on focus
[22:04] @Enki: also id run coil over dragon dance
[22:04] +explodingdaisies: i put coil
[22:04] %mil: DennisEG what's the spread for coil
[22:05] %mil: do you know ?
[22:05] @Enki: you got scizor for other mosa if specia
[22:05] %mil: withozt looking ? :D
[22:05] @Enki: or slowbro if offensive
[22:05] @Enki: physical
[22:05] %Sun ~: its 56 speed max spd and rest in hp if im not wrong, mil
[22:05] @Enki: since the best move to hit is like uturning out
[22:05] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: 200 evs hp and speed for adamant bulu i guess mil rest spd careful
[22:06] +explodingdaisies: so 96 speed on zygarde
[22:06] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: ya
[22:06] +explodingdaisies: that creeps ada bulu
[22:06] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: it does
[22:06] +explodingdaisies: id need more hp than 160 on zygarde
[22:06] +explodingdaisies: that way i hit 404 hp so seismic cant break sub
[22:07] +AnishSomani✇: doesn't qd mosa ohko scizor mega at +1
[22:07] +AnishSomani✇: opposing qd mosa* mb
[22:07] @Enki: with what?
[22:07] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: 200 evs + nearly max spd is for subbing against slowbro and rotom explodingdaisies
[22:07] +AnishSomani✇: all out pumelling
[22:08] @Enki: you dont allow it to get +1
[22:08] %mil: you can run sd pummeling bulu for stall tbh
[22:08] +explodingdaisies: careful?
[22:08] @Enki: also you bullet punch iti
[22:08] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: !dt focus blast
Focus BlastFightingSpecialPower
120Accuracy
70%PP
810% chance to lower the target's Sp. Def by 1.
Priority: 0 |  Gen: 4 |  ✓ Secondary effect |  ✓ Bullet |  Z-Power: 190 |  Target: One Adjacent Pokémon
[22:08] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: 252 SpA Pheromosa Focus Blast vs. 248 HP / 200 SpD Scizor-Mega: 267-315 (77.8 - 91.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
[22:08] +explodingdaisies: i mean zygarde with coil and toxic
[22:08] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: with 190 base
[22:08] +explodingdaisies: can handle stall decently
[22:09] +explodingdaisies: zygarde+band bulu can handle stall
[22:09] +AnishSomani✇: bp doesn't ko iirc, and doesn't mosa force zygarde and to a lesser extent slowbro if you don't know he's qd, ig you can play around it
[22:09] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: 44 Atk Technician Scizor-Mega Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Pheromosa: 204-240 (72 - 84.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
[22:10] +explodingdaisies: modest +1 mosa has a good chance to OHKO sciz with focus
[22:10] +explodingdaisies: mostly i added slowbro because of zard x
[22:11] +AnishSomani✇: actually ash greninja looks pretty irritating here, you could try running tapu fini > slowbro
[22:11] +explodingdaisies: thats what i was thinking
[22:11] +explodingdaisies: but fini can be overwhelmed by zard+gren
[22:11] +explodingdaisies: especially if its gunk gren
[22:12] %mil: http://pastebin.com/cfFYBeEp
[22:12] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: explodingdaisies you need twave to handle zard with slowbro
[22:12] +explodingdaisies: ya i changed it already
[22:12] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: but yeah protean gren is a major threat
[22:13] @Enki: any other question?
[22:13] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: ok what about running fini > slowbro with the stallbreaker set and running Scarf bulu to catch off guard opposing gren
[22:13] +explodingdaisies: hmm
[22:13] +explodingdaisies: that could work
[22:13] @Enki: ^this is ig the most optimal change u can make
[22:14] +explodingdaisies: just have to work a little harder with stall
[22:14] @Enki: to handle gren cuz it's a threat
[22:14] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: this way we handle stall, check gren and zard
[22:14] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: fini + zygarde beat stall
[22:14] +explodingdaisies: ya
[22:14] +explodingdaisies: so 248 hp 64 speed 176 def bold?
[22:15] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: is better the 248hp 16+ spd 52 speed rest in def
[22:15] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: you can even take out some evs of def for speed
[22:15] +explodingdaisies: 64 is for lando
[22:15] %mil: any other questions explodingdaisies?
[22:15] +explodingdaisies: ok so fini>bro scarf bulu coil zygarde bloom tran LO mosa?
[22:16] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: you got it
[22:17] +explodingdaisies: hmm
[22:17] +explodingdaisies: ill try scarf bulu for now
[22:17] +explodingdaisies: maybe i can swap it out for something later
[22:17] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: is not a bad scarfer tbh
[22:17] @DennisEG ☆¸☆: grassy terrain boosted stab is really strong
[22:18] +explodingdaisies: indeed
[22:18] +explodingdaisies: ight guys thanks for ur help
[22:18] @Enki: thank you for submitting
[22:18] @Enki: and gl with testing it
[22:19] +explodingdaisies: thanks
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[22:19] %mil: dimond301
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[22:19] +dimond301: Woo
[22:19] @Enki: hey
[22:19] +dimond301: Hello :)
[22:19] %Sun ~: hi
[22:20] @Enki: http://pastebin.com/6Ckxhv44
[22:20] @Enki: this is the team
[22:20] +dimond301: So, I have always wanted to use mega chomp and since gen 7 mons can be paired with it becuz it has some great synergy
[22:21] @Team Pokepals: can you explain what the EV spread does on garchomp?
[22:22] +dimond301: the bulk is for longevity, the max speed is to out speed mx base 91
[22:22] %mil: alright first off
[22:22] %mil: I'd say
[22:23] %mil: mega chomp should only be run on sand teams really
[22:23] %mil: to boosti its eq and break stall
[22:23] %mil: so
[22:23] %mil: thundi with ttar
[22:23] %mil: and weavile with exca
[22:23] %mil: how about that ?
[22:25] @Enki: the guy went offline
[22:25] @Enki: unfort, i think we move on
[22:25] @Enki: let see if he comes back
[22:25] %mil: is the last team tho
[22:26] @Team Pokepals: were there any other teams submitted?
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[22:28] @Enki: the guy went off and doubt he will be back yh
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[22:28] %mil: alright guys Team Pokepals is hosting this for a bit :)
[22:29] @Team Pokepals: http://pastebin.com/njms2wvm
[22:29] +mayofshaymin: Thank you ;)
[22:29] @Enki: Hey
[22:29] @Enki: give us a quick explanation of the building process
[22:31] +mayofshaymin: Kk, so the team revolves around a decent lead w/ Decidueye which usually kills 1 or 2 mons. Then I just hyper attack with Weavile and Garch, I use MScizor for fairies and stallbreaker and Defog Fini for hazards
[22:34] @Enki: what if u make decidueye band?
[22:34] @Team Pokepals: one of the biggest issues I see is that Heatran can potentially switch in on anything aside from Garchomp's EQ, and then it gets a free kill
[22:34] @Enki: i like it so it can be a solid pokemon vs stall moves
[22:34] @Team Pokepals: actually the only way you stop it is with Garchomp's EQ
[22:34] +mayofshaymin: Well, I used to go Band Deci, but I wouldn't one shot them and Sucker Punch would let me finish them off
[22:34] @Team Pokepals: if it has Grassium Z, Weavile won't do much damage and will end up getting dropped
[22:34] @Enki: and fini doesnt stop that
[22:35] %Analytic♧: I'm here, sorry my dudes
[22:35] @Enki: it's all fine
[22:35] +mayofshaymin: Yeah I've had problems with Heatran :/
[22:35] @Team Pokepals: Just realized you're missing stealth rock too
[22:35] @Enki: ok i got the changes
[22:35] @Enki: we remove weavile because this set isnt optimal at all
[22:36] +mayofshaymin: mk
[22:36] @Enki: and doesnt help against anything in particular
[22:36] @Enki: then make garchomp ur rocker
[22:36] %Analytic♧: Im thinking Mamo over Weav
[22:36] %Analytic♧: And Celesteela over Magearna
[22:36] %Analytic♧: Thoughts?
[22:36] @Team Pokepals: Mamo looks good
[22:36] %Sun ~: i'd say that you don't need sucker punch on decidueye, maybe u-turn can be a better idea to pick up momentum, and, i like mamo here :o
[22:36] %Analytic♧: Cele gives a ground resist which is much needed
[22:37] @Team Pokepals: Mamoswine outspeeds Heatran and it can do major damage to Celesteela, which bothers the team as well
[22:37] +mayofshaymin: ooo I like
[22:38] +mayofshaymin: A bit of fire weakness but Fini/Garch can tank fire pretty good
[22:38] %Analytic♧: Yes
[22:38] @Enki: yea
[22:38] %Analytic♧: Mamo also gives a nice elec resist
[22:38] +mayofshaymin: Yeah
[22:39] @Team Pokepals: Garchomp in misty terrain won't get burned, so that's nice too
[22:39] %Sun ~: yup
[22:39] +mayofshaymin: ^That's why I went fini w/ the garch
[22:40] +mayofshaymin: What set should I go for on Celesteela/Mamo
[22:40] @Enki: cele is defensive leech seed protect
[22:40] @Enki: and mamo an offensive variant
[22:40] %Analytic♧: LO for Mamo maybe?
[22:40] %Analytic♧: Or sash
[22:40] @Team Pokepals: LO
[22:40] %Sun ~: ye lo mamo
[22:40] @Enki: orb looks strong
[22:41] +mayofshaymin: I haven't had much luck with Scizor btw, any mon that would fit nicely?
[22:41] @Enki: nah it's very good in here imo
[22:41] +mayofshaymin: oh ok :p
[22:41] @Enki: with these changes it's pretty solid
[22:41] @Enki: do you guys have anything else to add?
[22:41] %Analytic♧: If sciz isnt working out
[22:42] +mayofshaymin: http://pastebin.com/fSN8i3FE So far
[22:42] %Analytic♧: You can try mmeta, doesnt change team structure a lot
[22:42] %Analytic♧: Same idea
[22:42] +mayofshaymin: mk
[22:42] @Enki: yh it's pretty similar
[22:42] @Enki: but more offensive
[22:42] @Enki: do you have any other question?
[22:43] +mayofshaymin: Yeah, did you guys want me to make Garch Def Rocker?
[22:43] @Enki: yh
[22:43] +mayofshaymin: kk
[22:43] @Enki: thank you for submitting the team and let us know how it goes
[22:44] @Enki: gl with it
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[22:44] @Enki: This was the last team to be rated
[22:44] @Enki: thanks everyone for joining us
[22:44] @Enki: big thanks to mil sun tp and analytic for rating with me
[22:44] @Enki: and see you in another workshop
[22:45] @Enki: Team Pokepals will be hosting a tour in here just to test your teams after being rated
[22:45] @Team Pokepals: We will now host an OU tour to allow people to test their teams!
[22:45] @Enki: If you still want your teams rated, you can PM our raters here on PS, on the forums, or you can make an RMT! See you there !
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