[23:22]>> Zenogias Sorence: ah yeah. so it's about our group basically. i know that you and neb both do not want lyss in it, but i can't agree to that
[23:22]You mount the Unicorn.
[23:23]Zenogias Sorence >> the purpose of these raid groups is to feed our eventual 24 man group
[23:23]Zenogias Sorence >> this whole FC was more or less created for 24 man content
[23:23]Zenogias Sorence >> i realize that right now, its not really possible
[23:23]You mount the Unicorn.
[23:23]Zenogias Sorence >> but its being added and eventually will become a reality
[23:24]Zenogias Sorence >> now, you are telling me that you want to permanently grant a spot to a non fc member, but what happens when we have a 24 man group, and one of the scholars needs to get into an 8 man group
[23:24]Zenogias Sorence >> but we have no room for him? because you want to keep your buddy whos outside the FC?
[23:24]Zenogias Sorence >> do you see how this might not be beneficial to the FC's general purpose?
[23:24]>> Zenogias Sorence: that's true, but we currently have no even approximate timeframe for when 24 man content will come out
[23:25]Zenogias Sorence >> i know, and thats why im torn on this
[23:25]Zenogias Sorence >> i hate to tell you to replace them for our future plans
[23:25]>> Zenogias Sorence: and i think it's premature, and frankly disrespectful to our group, to try to dictate this for content that is completely unknown
[23:25]Zenogias Sorence >> we created that group
[23:25]Zenogias Sorence >> its our FCs group, not yours
[23:26]Zenogias Sorence >> if you guys have all decided as an entity that you dont want to be an FC group anymore, and you want to be your own thing
[23:26]Zenogias Sorence >> ok whatever, thats fine
[23:26]XXXXXXXX XXXXX >> hey who wants to power level me, a sensual catboy
[23:26]Zenogias Sorence >> but you will cease being a seraphim raiding group and you wont be getting any type of official support from us
[23:26]>> XXXXXXXX XXXXX: gimme a min, fc drama
[23:26]XXXXXXXX XXXXX >> lol
[23:26]Zenogias Sorence >> to be honest i think you are being a bit ungrateful
[23:26]XXXXXXXX XXXXX >> ok im gonna go make gear taht doesnt blow ass
[23:26]Zenogias Sorence >> and very clicky and selfish
[23:26]>> Zenogias Sorence: that's fair. but im also goiing along with the wishes of our group as a whole. this is not me talking
[23:26]Zenogias Sorence >> not something i value in an officer
[23:27]Zenogias Sorence >> well im not sure if you are aware of this, but im a pretty smart guy
[23:27]>> Zenogias Sorence: this is a consensus
[23:27]Zenogias Sorence >> and i know this is all stemming from you
[23:27]>> Zenogias Sorence: it really isn't. you're free to believe that if you want, though.
[23:27]Zenogias Sorence >> well like i said, if you guys no longer want to be an FC raid group tats fine
[23:28]Zenogias Sorence >> but like i said, you will no longer be considered raiders in the FC and will not be getting any help with say, things like recruitment
[23:28]Zenogias Sorence >> if thats ok with your group then so be it
[23:28]>> Zenogias Sorence: for that purpose i put out a completely anonymous survey for this issue, it was unanimous. if you still want to tell me this is all from me, that's fine
[23:28]Zenogias Sorence >> didnt say it was all from you
[23:28]>> Zenogias Sorence: and that's fine with me. ill consult the group before i make that call though
[23:28]Zenogias Sorence >> said it stems from you
[23:29]Zenogias Sorence >> and guess what mom
[23:29]Zenogias Sorence >> i already told you it wasnt up for vote
[23:29]Zenogias Sorence >> and you ignored me
[23:29]>> Zenogias Sorence: im not the leader of the group
[23:29]>> Zenogias Sorence: i never have been
[23:29]Zenogias Sorence >> you and mucko are the leaders
[23:29]>> Zenogias Sorence: mucko was at one point, and you totally went over his head on this
[23:29]Zenogias Sorence >> this was between us officers
[23:29]>> Zenogias Sorence: which isnt cool
[23:29]Zenogias Sorence >> ...do you understand that im the master of this FC and im above all of your heads?
[23:30]Zenogias Sorence >> im getting confused by your attitude
[23:30]>> Zenogias Sorence: im aware
[23:31]>> Zenogias Sorence: our entire group plays this game to have fun. thats why we want to keep a player we have fun with (and a player who is excellent) in the group. that is the issue we have
[23:31]Zenogias Sorence >> the player that ditched you and told you your FC wasnt good enough for him
[23:31]Zenogias Sorence >> lol
[23:31]>> Zenogias Sorence: he said no such thing
[23:31]Zenogias Sorence >> the player that will ditch you the moment he gets a better static
[23:31]>> Zenogias Sorence: youre free to believe that. 5 of 6 of us do not
[23:31]Zenogias Sorence >> the player that will not help the FC move forward in any meaningful way, just your group
[23:31]>> Zenogias Sorence: that was the only issue without unaniminity
[23:32]Zenogias Sorence >> alright, well if this is truly how your group feels, you guys are no longer our second raid group and will just be your own static that you operate outside of the FC
[23:33]Zenogias Sorence >> im sorry that my faith in you and mucko was so misplaced
[23:33]>> Zenogias Sorence: i'm sorry you expected i was something i am not.