submissivedreamer
I quit kg. At least for a while. I'll say something more official about it if it's permanent. So, not responding to that tag, but I see you

aflawedmind
I'm sorry that you had to quit
was it b/c of what QN said in response?

submissivedreamer
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

aflawedmind
I really don't know what that means lol

submissivedreamer
Ni moi non plus

aflawedmind
I do know that we were concerned about your sudden departure, so even if you decide to leave permanently, I'd appreciate you explaining why so we can do better
lol you expect me to know french :P
So it wasn't any particular thing then?

submissivedreamer
We?

aflawedmind
the chat

submissivedreamer
I see. How do you figure?

aflawedmind
Being inclusive and open to everyone is one of our goals so if we aren't living up to that then I'd like to be able to bring it up
How do I figure what?

submissivedreamer
Nvm

aflawedmind
no, please explain. I'm just kinda confused

submissivedreamer
It's not like y'all sat around and discussed being distressed for my departure. So how can tou speak for the chat as a whole?

aflawedmind
we were concerned about your departure. You may not have noticed several of us wondering why you left and if memory serves, at least a couple apologizing. More importantly, we're also not mind readers. If you didn't notice us holding an all-hands-on-deck it's because you had asked for QN's response, if memory serves. The ones who were on were quite concerned when you left, but we were also concerned by QN's departure as well. Moreover, coincidentally several people came online who weren't a part of the conversation (like myself) and didn't know that it'd happened. So when you left, I imagine that we weren't aware of the severity of your reaction and figured that you needed some alone time
*a couple apologizing and asking you to come back

aflawedmind
as for speaking for the chat as a whole, it is quite literally our policy to try to be welcoming towards everyone so in that sense I can speak for the chat

submissivedreamer
Regardless, I spoke to incu and panda about me leaving. So. If they wish to take care of it, they will do so.

aflawedmind
fair enough. However, I'm still not sure why you're leaving. If it's cause of QN's response, then at least that's something that I can work with but if you aren't going to communicate your reasoning, then it's unfair to expect us to do anything about it

aflawedmind
especially when there were those of us who did express concern at your departure

aflawedmind
and more especially since most of us supported you

submissivedreamer
Did I say that I expected y'all to do anything about me leaving?

aflawedmind
I got that impression, tbh

submissivedreamer
...

aflawedmind
if you want to leave, that's up to you obv. But maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it sounded like you were blaming us and hence me asking

submissivedreamer
I was letting you know that I left because you specifically tagged me in a post in the chat, and I didn't want you to think I was ignoring you
And the only thing I said in the chat was "bye all"

submissivedreamer
You said "we were concerned about your departure" so I asked how you came to the conclusion about the whole chat being concerned, as it wasn't really discussed other than Dani asking me not to leave.

aflawedmind
wait, you left the chat b.c I tagged you? I'm confused about that b/c I tagged you literally only because you'd left earlier and it seemed abrupt and that was the 1st time I'd seen you back on
Dani asked you not to leave, as did LMS and I believe Incu

submissivedreamer
I am not upset about it not being discussed, I was simply asking if you were making up fluff to make me feel better or if there was a private discussion that I hadn't been aware of
I left the chat for my own reasons.

aflawedmind
oh ok. Very much miscommunication/understanding then. No, I wasn't making fluff up. We were quite concerned  - or at least that's the impression I got

submissivedreamer
And no, it was just Dani who said anything publicly. LMS and incubus talked to me privately.

aflawedmind
no, I recall LMS and Incu asking you to stay and/or apologizing
unless my memory like deserted me
ah Incu didn't. But LMS did apologize openly

submissivedreamer
given that I was the one there for the conversation... and also just scrolled up and reread it...

aflawedmind
and Dani's message that we all felt awful was correct imo.
I misread it earlier :P I just reread it now. Dani asked you not to go, but LMS did apologize about the entire matter

submissivedreamer
anyway, I don't want to have this conversation
so, peace

aflawedmind
fair enough
peace as in leaving or peace as in moving on?

submissivedreamer
leaving

aflawedmind
ok bye. While I appreciate you responding on here, I didn't really appreciate your cold tone. I hope that you have a better night

submissivedreamer
How was I not supposed to have a cold tone when after having a rough night you responded by being incredibly pushy in trying to get me to answer your questions and putting words in my mouth?
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I can't be expected to be sweet all the time. If I didn't respond coldly, you'd just push even more and make me feel worse.

aflawedmind
Literally you could've just said that you had your reasons which you did at the very last, or that you didn't want to talk about it. To me, we /were/ concerned at your departure and I simply wanted to know if the conversation with QN was the reason. The only words I quoted from you was that you'd asked for QN's reaction which you actually quite literally did. Not everyone is out to get you. If you can't realize when people are trying to be helpful then that's on you.

aflawedmind
How the hell was I supposed to know that you were having a rough night? I'm not a mind reader. Your having a rough night doesn't give you the right to treat others badly

submissivedreamer
"Regardless, I talked to incu and panda about me leaving. So. If they wish to take care of it, they will do so." Implying that I have talked it through and that is taken care of and I don't want to continue.

Me leaving the chat abruptly after expressing the fact that I was sad and upset tends to quite openly say it's a rough night.

You were so pushy in trying to figure out the why that you weren't considering where I was at, at all. Me not wanting to talk about something isn't treating you badly.
I was snippy when you said that I expected you all to change or that I was blaming you, because you put words in my mouth that I didn't say.

aflawedmind
Honestly that doesn't imply that at all.

Second, you abruptly leaving doesn't mean that you're having a rough night, just that you're upset. And tbh I didn't see the extent to which you were upset.

I expected you to say that you weren't up for it at the beginning. I tend to be a bit oblivious when it comes to signs. I apologize for pushing you but that wasn't my intention

aflawedmind
I am sorry though for being pushy. I didn't realize that I was until you just mentioned it

submissivedreamer
Thanks. Sorry for being cold and snippy.