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- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: hi
- nja: hallo
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: we should probably talk
- nja: sounds like a good idea
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: so
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: it seems like at least you, andmost likely jav/sakura
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: prolly think that cutting me
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: was a mistake
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: at this point
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: is that fair
- nja: the way we did it was a mistake imo, but I think we did fine without you if you get my point (not being rude)
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: I understand it feels that way because you did way better than last season
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: but I honestly think that you guys had enough potential
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: that
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: with me
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: that team wouldve won IM
- nja: I remember your internet being a huge factor in the decision
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: I feel like when wireless joined, him and tone pot started playing wrong, and when I pointed it out, people thought I was being too oppositional
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: well I should say that I have until midnight every night nowadays
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: anyways
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: I see your posts defending me
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: and theyre nice and all
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: but I cant help but feel
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: that you say that stuff bc you feel somewhat guilty
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: and that has never been expressed to me
- nja: well I've always felt guilty
- nja: but when I defend someone the words themselves are also true
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: when I talked to you afterwards you said this was just like fog
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: and I thought that was unfair and hurtful
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: that really upset me
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: first off, fog was awful
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: 2nd of all, I had put so many hours into keeping that team alive
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: fog had not
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: and third off, we were very up front with fog, both beforehand about his problems, and when we got rid of him
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: not only were you guys not up front with me, but you also all hid offline while tone pot told me
- nja: true, I remember that conversation
- nja: I was legitimately away at that point
- nja: out with my gf, I told tone to wait until I got back
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: and you did it so late that I didnt get to play at all
- nja: yea and that was the part I feel guilty about
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: I also have a question for you
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: jav says that he had almost nothing to do
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: with it
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: and it was all tone pot
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: I do not believe him
- nja: lol?
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: please tell me the truth
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: in that regard
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: I think I am owed it
- nja: I didn't like ending at 11 and I thought your yelling was getting irritating because the mumble atmosphere was getting tense
- nja: tone didn't like you calling him out on all the stuff you were calling him out on and the fact that you got heated a lot
- nja: jav and wireless just disliked you for some reason when they got on the team
- nja: jav was the main one who suggested replacing you
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: thats what I thought
- nja: then I was stuck almost
- nja: wireless
- nja: was tied to jav at the time
- nja: he'd never hurt you or any soul because wireless is an angel
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: and sakura was like not involved at all?
- nja: but at the time he agreed with jav because he'd been on a team with jav
- nja: and sakura literally gives no shits about any team decision made ever
- nja: you should know that lol
- nja: he just plays to play the game and get to invite
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: I know that
- nja: such a weird but really good guy
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: I agree
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: but
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: let me explain things from my po
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: v
- nja: k
- nja: oh god
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: pwr rangers started as a team that, aside from me, was very inexperienced. I knew everyone on the team had at least some talent (except for ducky lololol), but people hadnt played at an IM level before. you mention that you didnt know a ton before you met me? maybe thats a little true, but you flatter me, because it was less true for you than for anyone else on the team (barring maybe sakura). tone pot had good dm, but that was it. he didnt know how to use heals aggressively and play unselfishly. I spent pretty much the whole season teaching him that. meanwhile, shock overextended constantly and didn't listen to calls. I tried to work with him on that, but we as a team decided there was too much to improve on for him to stay, and we cut him. however, I really thought tone-pot was the big success story, and that I gave him the guidence he needed to be a truly good pocket. to me the apex of that was our granary game vs sparrows team. he didnt bait our team, he didnt tunnel vision, he played super well, and it showed. although I was never the roster leader or even the scheduler, I felt like I had put in so much work to not only keep the team alive, but to prepare it to do really well the next season.
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: thats part 1
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: part 2 incoming
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: read that
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: while I keep goin
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: lol
- nja: kk I'll update you on my thoughts as I read
- nja: yes I really really sucked as an IM scout so its true
- nja: shock was shit
- nja: tone's pretty good now so gj
- nja: here's what I learned from you: stay near medic to get heals, don't need both scouts on flank, hug medic in every engagement ever
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: I even thought that I was not having issues with rage or arguing to the degree that I've had on previous teams, because people trusted my calls and I trusted they were listening to them. In the offseason, when xlax and ducky left, some people on our team thought things werent gonna work out, and debated putting up looking threads. I said no, because I felt like we had worked too hard and achieved too much. trust me guys, I said, I'll fill these spots with strong replacements. I thought wireless and jav would be perfect, but I was mistaken. jav was fine, but didnt seem to like me much. wireless, on the other hand, played EXTREMELY passively. not only was this not the playstyle I had spend an entire season working on, but it also had a huge negative effect on tone pot. suddenly, he began to play like he had before he had improved, baiting his team and tunnelvisioning. worst of all, with tone pot's newfound ego after having gotten better, and with wireless and jav being new to the team, I felt like I had hardly any allies, or people willing to listen to my ideas. the same calls I had been making earlier were being rejected or ignored, and it was if I was the problem, not the new players. it was as if everyone had collective amnesia about what had gotten us so far. if I was angry or oppositional at this time, it was because I felt like my team was turning its collective back on everything I had done for it. I began to get paranoid that I would be cut. however, when I was given the join password for the old MPP roster, I assumed that was all in my head. I even started to feel like we were meshing a little better, meeting in the middle strat-wise, culminating in our gullywash game where we shat on puffs team. welp, it turns out I was right the first time, so I was cut. it felt like I had been stabbed in the back, like people had literally forgotten everything positive I had contributed to the team. It felt like I was cut because tone pot wanted to go back to the old, shitty way of playing, something confirmed...
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: by picking up rex, the perfect mediocre demo for such a playstyle
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: thats basically it
- nja: k lemme read and respond real time
- nja: wireless honestly improved if he used to play passive
- nja: jav was necessary for me to stay on pwr
- nja: if he didn't join, I would've quit
- nja: idk I felt like you thought your calls were so flawless that you were unwilling to sway them even when we suggested, and when we noticed our suggestions being ignored shit ramped up fast
- nja: rex is shit I don't really want to play with him again if I'm going to take this game seriously
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: I didnt feel like my calls were flawless, but I felt like if people didnt like them they intentionally ignored them rather than giving them a try
- nja: fun guy, but not good
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: the trust was gone
- nja: I think that the trust was gone because you had taught us to think on our own though
- nja: like before we relied on you because we didn't know what the fuck to do in IM
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: well
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: maybe you
- nja: after a season went by we got an idea
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: but tone pot and wireless were just thinking wrong
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: I can assure you that
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: the way they were playin
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: was wrong
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: I talked to sparrow about this
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: when we scrimmed his team preseason
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: and he totally agreed
- nja: unfortunately sparrow and ss are now more passive than fucking tone and wireless
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: and he had agreed that tone pot played correctly when weplayed them on granary last season
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: oh abotu that
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: another reason I added you
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: a little birdy told me
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: you werent happy on their team
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: and were gonna tryout
- nja: so bman
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: on chill 2 good
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: no
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: not bman
- nja: so cosa
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: but anyways, I had to get a little bit off my chest
- nja: only 2 people I told
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: before I talked to you about it
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: well who did they tell
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: cuz it wasnt either of them
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: anyways
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: I was gonna just talk a bit before I got to that stuff
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: that was the main reason I added you
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: but
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: I had a l;ot
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: more to say
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: than I thought
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: lol
- nja: lol
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: are you, jav and sakura all playin for them
- nja: well I'm glad you got it off your chest
- nja: here's the situation
- nja: jav left dbj because he thought rex was shit and phrakture was amazing after our last match
- nja: and he believed ss was just as good as tone
- nja: well
- nja: I said to myself
- nja: idk where to go now
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: phrakture is only good on badlands
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: we both know this
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: :>
- nja: trust me I knew but jav was convinced
- nja: anyway
- nja: sakura and I
- nja: are like
- nja: really fucking good together as a flank
- nja: so in the end we wanted to stay with jav to keep our flank together
- nja: sorry tone and wireless we love you but we have to go to phraktures
- nja: rip dbj etc
- nja: now
- nja: ss and sparrow play so fucking stupid passive
- nja: that its pissing me off
- nja: and its pissing ss off that I die a lot because I'm "too far forward"
- nja: when I play like I always have played
- nja: punish shit scouts and soldiers who overextend
- nja: but I'm used to having dbj back me up
- nja: sal's canal
- nja: like to play it hella slow
- nja: like
- nja: methodically slow
- nja: which is a style I CAN play but I'd really rather not
- nja: its even gotten to the point where its pissing off jav how passive we are
- nja: and we lose scrims because our flank is hyper aggro at the right times
- nja: but not on the same page as the combo
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: so which of you guys are trying out
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: for chill 2 good
- nja: me
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: just you?
- nja: and only me
- nja: which is why
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: what about big sakura
- nja: I'm hesitant
- nja: because the reason I stayed with my flank is because we dominate as a flank
- nja: I wish sakura could try out
- nja: but they're keeping mangachu
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: well, let me tell you why I ask
- nja: also if I make it on c2g I'm invite
- nja: which I really want so idk how I'm going to play this
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: myself and nosferatu were planning on building a main team, me on demo and him on medic. we are prolly gonna use swarth on pocket, but we have literally no idea who to use on roamer and scouts. we have the mad men roster, which has the potential to still be invite, but is unlikely because we cant find anyone really good and we dont wanna get totally roflstomped. I thought about talking to you guys even, but I thought doing stuff with jav was unlikely to work out. I had no problem with sakura, but I felt like you and me had stuff to talk about before anything would be possible. nosferatu is actually tryin out for chill 2 good tonight, and he said he thought someone from dbj would be there too. hes giving them a chance, but he says hes gonna play for the team with the most potential, as he wants a team that likes to play the way he likes to play. the way he likes to play is to heal scouts and demos a lot in fights. this is fine by me but obv I need the right scouts for it. you sounded perfect for that, and there are like 0 good roamers. with that in mind, I'd like you and sakura to tryout for my team if our past history isnt too difficult to overcome
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: if we did well enough id consider moving to invite, but id also be cool WINNING main this season and goin invite later
- nja: I'll talk to sakura
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: Nosferatu: basically my idea is that whatever team has the most potential is the best option because i feel like using mike's ideas and stuff is the best/easiest way to beat top teams
- nja: well
- nja: I know how mike thinks
- nja: lol
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: EXACTLY
- nja: does he know mike mentored me?
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: I need the exact class composition that you and sakura are, and we are going to play the exact way you like to play, and you posted in my looking thread defending me on the SAME DAY as I found out about this
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: arent you like a creepy religious kid?
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: THIS IS A SIGN FROM GOD
- nja: rofl
- nja: more a deist so not quite
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: also, another sign
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: in the time since I got cut
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: I got really into counter strike go
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: the competitive scene especially
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: I was looking for people to talk to about it
- mustardoverlord lft/ringme: sakura fits that description
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