Lord Aardvark: let alone a Kreator song
Lord Aardvark: till I said it
Lord Aardvark: "Wait I think that's a song"
Lord Aardvark: youtube it
Huuu: I can't really get into that metal
Huuu: I used to love death metal
Huuu: I just can't do it anymore
Lord Aardvark: yeah, Hordes of Chaos wasn't a really good album
Huuu: it just sounds like noise, and I can't relax to it
Lord Aardvark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H31JzKz-0ag
Lord Aardvark: Enemy of God was overall a better album, much more melodic
Lord Aardvark: and this song in particular stands out
Lord Aardvark: mostly because of how different it is
Lord Aardvark: Syncopation
Lord Aardvark: fucking everywhee
Lord Aardvark: Honestly now that I listen to it
Huuu: meeeeeeeeeh
Lord Aardvark: This is like
Lord Aardvark: almost a clone of Slayers' Skeletons of Society
Lord Aardvark: which coincidentally is the only Slayer song I like lol
Huuu: they're too fucking repetitive
Lord Aardvark: In what way?
Lord Aardvark: I suppose a better question to ask is
Lord Aardvark: What is the scope of that
Huuu: Every song is just heavy riff, scream, double bass pedal
Lord Aardvark: songs too repetitive within themselves
Huuu: It gets boring
Lord Aardvark: that is quite possibly
Lord Aardvark: the most fucking ignorant statement
Lord Aardvark: I ahve ever heard
Huuu: How is it ignorant?
Lord Aardvark: "classical musical is so repetitive. Every song is just violin, piano, and singing"
Huuu: I've listened to metal since I was 12
Huuu: I don't like death metal now
Lord Aardvark: "electronic music is so repetitive. Every song is just synth, drum, and bass"
Lord Aardvark: It's a totally fucking ignorant statement
Huuu: I am saying, that every song they make is the same, there's no difference
Lord Aardvark: I don't know what you did since you were 12
Lord Aardvark: canb e called listening
Lord Aardvark: because obviously you didn't pay any attention to it.
Huuu: where-as I listen to other metal bands and each song is quite unique
Lord Aardvark: Then you're listening to shit death metal bands
Huuu: but death metal has always been boring
Huuu: imo
Lord Aardvark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JkloRshCR0
Huuu: meshuggah are okay, I like their riffs
Huuu: and I obviously love opeth
Lord Aardvark: Listen to that
Lord Aardvark: And tell me if that's the "boring repetitive death metal"
Lord Aardvark: you're used to
Huuu: I'm saying death metal in general
Huuu: Not saying there aren't some bands that stand out and are actually decent
Lord Aardvark: So basically you're saying
Lord Aardvark: "The music is boring except for the music that isn't."
Lord Aardvark: Congratu-fucking-lations
Lord Aardvark: Here is your crown, O king of tautological generalizations
Huuu: No I am saying, that there is only a select few that are actually decent
Huuu: most of them are garbage
Lord Aardvark: Welcome to any fucking genre
Lord Aardvark: in the world
Huuu: why are you getting so fucking arsey about my opinion?
Huuu: I'm not a big fan of death metal
Lord Aardvark: Because it's a fucking stupid opinion
Lord Aardvark: Fine
Lord Aardvark: Find a better reason for it
Huuu: My reason is fine and valid
Huuu: I don't like it
Lord Aardvark: No, it really isn't.
Lord Aardvark: See
Lord Aardvark: THAT
Lord Aardvark: is a valid reason
Lord Aardvark: Not this bogus "it's so repetitive, it's all just riff doublepedal and screaming" bullshit
Huuu: Most of the bands are
Lord Aardvark: "This genre is so repetitive because songs in the genre use the instrumentation that, by definition, makes a song that genre"
Lord Aardvark: Do you not see how fucking stupid of an argument that is?
Huuu: I enjoy a lot more reggae/dub/soul/jazz/orchestral artists than I do death metal
Lord Aardvark: Great
Huuu: I like 2/3 DM bands
Lord Aardvark: Find a good reason for it
Lord Aardvark: I'll tell you it's not because of the repetition
Lord Aardvark: " "
Huuu: Lol I really hit a fucking grenade pin
Huuu: jesus
Lord Aardvark: That's just a lazy excuse because you can't be bothered to find an ACTUAL reason to dislike it
Lord Aardvark: Here's a simple one for you
Lord Aardvark: How old are you now?
Huuu: You really wanna know?
Lord Aardvark: Yes
Huuu: I'm 17
Lord Aardvark: Cuz I got a really fucking simple explanati
Lord Aardvark: okay maybe not
Lord Aardvark: I was expecting at least 25
Lord Aardvark: cuz then the argumetn can be made
Lord Aardvark: "I listened to it for 13 years and just burned out on it"
Huuu: Well I did kinda burn out of it
Lord Aardvark: Cuz bro I've been listening to death metal since I was 11
Huuu: Listened to it for quite a while
Lord Aardvark: and I'm 22 now
Lord Aardvark: so
Lord Aardvark: yeah
Huuu: I just moved into other genres, and honestly prefer working to them as they're more relaxing
Lord Aardvark: Okay
Lord Aardvark: See
Lord Aardvark: THAT'S also a much better excuse
Huuu: But I still think most of them are shit
Huuu: :_
Huuu: :)
Lord Aardvark: Msot of the ones you listened to maybe
Lord Aardvark: I bet you didn't even click the In Mourning link
Huuu: I did
Huuu: they're okay
Huuu: would prefer some singing now and then in a 5+ minute song
Lord Aardvark: So obviously you didn't get very far into the song.
Lord Aardvark: fuck you didn't even get 3 minutes in
Lord Aardvark: good fucking job
Lord Aardvark: 3:21
Lord Aardvark: Want to try again?
Huuu: I'm busy listening to 80s pop dude
Huuu: I didn't want to listen to death metal
Lord Aardvark: You're busy being an ignorant douche
Huuu: going to sleep soon
Lord Aardvark: And that's fine
Lord Aardvark: Just don't pretend you're being anything but
Lord Aardvark: If you don't like the music fine
Lord Aardvark: Just fucking straight-up say that
Lord Aardvark: Don't try to pontificate some bullshit excuses you pull out of your ass
Lord Aardvark: that literally make no sense
Huuu: You're being pretty ignorant too
Lord Aardvark: "Your logical arguments are ignorant"
Lord Aardvark: ggwp
Lord Aardvark: Just to be clear I don't give a good fuck what your opinion on the music is
Lord Aardvark: I'm not even that distraught with how bullshit your argument is
Lord Aardvark: What's throwing me for a fucking loop is how you keep trying to justify to yourself that it's actually a valid argument
Lord Aardvark: And you're blatantly ignoring all the points I am making about why it's an ignorant argument
Lord Aardvark: That's what's throwing me for a loop
Lord Aardvark: Well
Lord Aardvark: I'm the one to blame for criticizing your opinion
Lord Aardvark: And I'm the one to blame for assuming you could take said criticism
Huuu: I stated my opinion, you could of just gone "okay, but I disagree"
Lord Aardvark: Huh interesting
Lord Aardvark: I just now noticed
Huuu: You apoligized then offended me
Lord Aardvark: I use the American spelling for the adjective, criticism
Lord Aardvark: but the British spelling for the verb, criticizing
Lord Aardvark: Is it the other way around?
Lord Aardvark: I can never remember
Lord Aardvark: Is using the "z" in criticizm British or American?
Huuu: american
Lord Aardvark: hmm
Lord Aardvark: looking into it
Lord Aardvark: apparently we both use the s
Lord Aardvark: I could have swore there was a 'z' variant
Lord Aardvark: I apologized then stated a fact to myself
Lord Aardvark: It was your choice to take offense to it
Lord Aardvark: Offense was not intended
Huuu: I can take criticism.
Lord Aardvark: Obviously not
Huuu: I am not even pissed off...
Lord Aardvark: Otherwise we wouldn't be having this conversation
Lord Aardvark: Again
Lord Aardvark: I apologize
Lord Aardvark: I overstepped myself
Lord Aardvark: I will try to keep that acutely in mind
Huuu: You weren't criticising you were just calling me ignorant...
Lord Aardvark: And then giving you criticism as to why
Lord Aardvark: repeatedly
Lord Aardvark: and even helping you find alternative, less ignorant arguments to support that argument
Lord Aardvark: Like I said
Lord Aardvark: I was never disagreeing with your opinion
Lord Aardvark: That's your opinion and it's your prerogative to hold it
Huuu: I don't need an alternate argument, that was my opinion
Huuu: I find it boring and repetitive generally
Lord Aardvark: But the argument just doesn't hold water
Lord Aardvark: It's like saying the Earth is flat because clouds are white
Huuu: It's not an argument
Lord Aardvark: and then getting upset when people try to tell you that makes no sense
Huuu: It's an opinion
Lord Aardvark: Yes it is
Lord Aardvark: "I don't like death metal because it's repetitive [...]"
Lord Aardvark: <opinion> because <argument>
Lord Aardvark: Your opinion is you don't care for death metal
Lord Aardvark: That's fine
Lord Aardvark: I wasn't arguing that
Lord Aardvark: Your argument for it was it's repetitive
Lord Aardvark: That is what I was arguing
Huuu: If I find it repetitive that's my opinion on it
Huuu: I'm not arguing that it IS repeitive
Lord Aardvark: "I find it repetitive but I'm not arguing it's repetitive"
Huuu: I'm just stating I find it repetitive
Huuu: emphasis on the I
Lord Aardvark: Whatever
Lord Aardvark: We seem to have very different definitions of argument and opinion
Lord Aardvark: And this won't go anywhere so long as those definitions differ